A soldier is only wielding and using his weapon for a fraction of the time that he's on duty. Every other moment, he's stuck carrying it. If a thing can be carried in some useful way, then I'm sure that it was. Even if it wasn't glamorous enough to make it into the artwork. Just carrying stuff usually isn't glamorous.
Pretty much this. After all most wars back then consist mostly of going somewhere and a little bit of fighting... not saying the battles were small. However compare the time to get to the fight to the time actually fighting... unless it is some seriously prolonged siege traveling or winter camping was what they be mostly doing. They did not have back-scabbards but I'm sure someone got annoyed by a hand a half sword dangling from his hips and all the time... its not like he had to have it combat ready all the time. Or a shield... a shield in hand blocks the hand from doing anything else... it gets heavy over time as well. If you are not using it and know you wont need it in the next foreseeable future it easily carried on the back...
Personally i don't think you would carry a spear, it would make a perfectly good walking stick which is helpful compared to carrying it all the time, also you could use it get rid of spider webs if your in the woods, or move low branches :p
@@CosmicG777 ya a knight might have someone carry it for them, but soldiers probably carried them. Also they probably had more spears than peaple so they would likely have most of the spears in a cart.
In a world where “adventuring” was a profession, methods of hanging most weapons on the body to free up both hands (for climbing or something else) would certainly develop and become common. Just look at Carpenters and Tool belts. Necessity led to innovation, and thus the tool belt was created.
And we know 19th century lancers carried in just such a fashion. Lots of photos from WWI of lancers carrying lances on slings just like infantry carried rifles.
Especially with a bayonet. In a way, a spear is just a quarter staff with a bayonet attached, and a rifle with a bayonet is a spear with a gun built into it. Add a masterkeyed grenade launcher and you've got four ways to end somebody in one handy tool. Smack stab bag ka-POW.
Just use it as a walking stick. In the immortal words of Gandalf: "you would not part an old man from his walking stick." Tis not a weapon. Don't mind the pointy bit at the top, tis only a decoration.
Reminds of a bit from a different book. An english longbowman was traveling through france during the hundred years war, just after Agincourt. He was on a quest to find the holy grail, because reasons. He was also the son of a priest, and thus had some priestly education. Obviously, longbowman were very unpopular in france at the time, as were the english. So he had to hide. How did he hide? He pretended to be a traveling priest, and to disguise his gigantic warbow, he tied a bit of wood to one end and pretended it was just a priests staff.
That was my first thought, too. My second thought however was: The Romans used something called a furca to help carry their gear. Bascially a staff to hang your stuff from that you carry on your shoulder (and the shield you'd be carrying on your back). Most spears could fulfill that function, too.
@@Santisima_Trinidad Another reader of Bernard Cornwell, who had multiple books set during that time. You are referencing one of four (I don't remember which it would have been in): Harlequin, Vagabond and Heretic were part of his grail quest series and Azincourt is likely set around then as well. Both the series and Azincourt focus on English bowmen, although don't I think Azincourt had the holy grail.
this is a really specific thing, but as someone with no car who walks everywhere, that's how i always carry things like plumbing pipes, wooden dowels, fabric bolts, etc. i made a canvas strap i can wrap around them so i can sling them over my shoulder.
I was a scout once, a team leader actually and I would always carry our standard and at some point I got tired of carrying it around and I did the same thing to it (obviously I would carry it with the flag facing up, not down). It's a lot more convenient than carrying it in a hand. Funnily enough, after some brief debate between the superiors on whether it isn't a travesty to the symbol, I started seeing other scout troops do it too. So as a person who used it for like 3 years every weekend, I can confirm that it's probably the best way to carry a long stick lol.
@@Dadecorban I mean.. I'm Polish and was part of the Federation of European Scouting (FSE). Every team has their own guidon (thx, didn't know the English word) here, though it is far less fancy than the guidon of the company. Made from simple fabric by the members of the team. The actual company guidons are way too big to carry on one's back first of all and they are also too important.
one huge advantage of your design is that, the way you have it set up, wherever yo8u'Re going with your spear, you're also bringing a rope, which is an awesome general purpose tool to have on your person, climbing, building a shelter, laying traps, tying up a prisoner or a captured beast and so on.
Great video and it's got me thinking about carrying spears and lances on horseback. There are many ways of doing that. I may have to make a quick reply video with some ideas for you!
I think on horse you might want point up to keep it away from the horse a bit, wouldn't want to risk injury. Another thing if you slung it across your back only After mounting, it could be slung for the majority of the shaft to go downwards, you got the height of the horse so it wouldn't drag on the ground. Could be awkward if you got off quick with it that way though.
If you were to make an attachment yourself, here's a useful drawing for you, it dates from 1901 and shows a Russian Cossak pattern lance, still with a wooden shaft (which would be useful for your testing purposes), and a method of shoulder and footsling attachment is shown in detail: ataman.ucoz.ru/506770.gif All measurments are in inches, except for the following: overall length is 120.75", from the tip up to part no. 10 (a 2.2-inch long sling with a wooden knob called _balberka,_ which one is to tuck through his belt to work with a foot-loop as a carrying method) it is 68.25", shoulder sling is 14-17.5" long and 1.75" wide. Hope that helps!
Over one shoulder is very much like how one might sling a rifle in modern times while on the march. Similar movement to simply spin the angery end around toward the enemy and get to business.
@@DrygdorDradgvork Reminds me of those knife and pistol holsters on the chest as well, especially the ones pirates loved to wear. Like for example Edward Teach(Blackbeard) had several pistol and throwing knife holsters lacing his jacket. Where people tend to put their weapons is dictated by the size of them.
True another use for the sling is to wrap your arm in it to gain more stability. This would work well if your using a spear one handed, gives just a bit more support.
I'm sorry, but this just isn't true. Soldiers in basic training are given a sling but aren't allowed to use it except during chow and drill. Chow slinging a rifle is over the head and over the dominant arm, muzzle down, magazine well up. It reflects readiness, as in that position it can slide under the dominant arm into a firing position easily. Slinging rifles on a march is unthinkable. Weapons on march(patrol, because lets be honest, we're not marching to war anymore, we go on trucks and planes) are at the low ready.
@@edwardstradinger4592 I am a soldier. I used my sling in BCT for I knew what I was doing. I still use it when I need to qualify on my rifle at my unit. (I also used the sling on ruck marches at BCT to help hold it up at the low port ready DS never caught me)
Why would you equip spear and other heavy weapons (dagger on your side maybe)? If you are chasing after someone as "kill or be killed" situation, you would usually not run with your spear on your back, especially closer to the guy you are chasing (and in this scenario in the forest). At least that is how I see it x), or you just as you said have a death-wish.
I suspect that spears were never carried on the March. Swords were probably carried specifically to respond to roadside ambush. The spears would be carried on wagons and carts and distributed before battle due to their weight and length. knights had other people carry their lances before entering battle fairly often. It is possible that spears carried on the back was something only wandering travelers might have. Hunters out to spear a boar from horseback, etc. A scout traveling alone and needing a Lance to break past a hasty trap on a roadside on full gallop. Or something. It may not have been a battlefield habit, but a hunter or poor travelers habit.
Was just thinking the same thing. I would think it more practical to quick draw a sword in a sudden defense situation. Like they say about military handguns - "A pistol is for fighting your way to your rifle."
On the other hand, there is waking canes etc. So it can be nice to have your spear on you when marching long distances And swords are very expensive too Humans were carrying spears for ten-thousand years
Not everyone had a cart, but maybe the Squires/Servants/Guy who drew a bad lot are carrying a spear bundle with the spears of a group like someone carrying a fascista (Axe + Sticks), only in this case, it's all sharp on one end and they make them bring up the rear. Spearbearers are mentioned all the time in history and myth, maybe a more utilitarian version was used for the less well off.
The lazy ass that I am would love that it were true. Like the modern soldier, the medieval soldier would be responsible for carrying their kit, weapons and all, wherever they went, at all times, to be battle-ready. Carts would be reserved for items that make the army run and are difficult for a single man to carry; comestibles, fresh water, large tents, workshops, spare parts, spare weapons, etc.
We desperately need more Jazza on the channel. I'm not overly interested in his content, but he is so enjoyable as a part of Shad's content. Asher is of course invited as well, being the best archer in the family and all.
30 seconds in and I already have exactly what I needed for my novel. I figured you could probably use a shoulder strap like a rifle, but point down instead of up? That I didn't think of, thank you very much.
6:45: "People have often, very often opted, if it was not too inconvenient, to hang weapons on their person to free up their arms." It's not just the convenience of having your hands free. It's also nice to be able to put that weight on your back rather than in your hands, because arms tend to tire out from carrying weight much more quickly than backs and legs do.
Yeah exactly, thats the primary reason ppl do it when hunting, otherwise you'll be too tired to hold the damned thing up after a few hours of trudging through rugged woods haha
sure, but in reality unless you are assualting a city you won't be armed in it, and if you are assualting it you would be holding your weapon going through a door. the strap would be for marches out on the open 90% of the time.
Also - T R E E S I can tell you, with great certainty, back quivers are pretty terrible for not being in an open plain. I can only imagine how bad trying to walk in the woods with a spear or sword stuck to your back would be.
Hey Shad, I watched this video a couple of weeks ago and it has actually helped me out with my job. I work at a maple sugar bush and we are currently pulling the maple taps out of the trees. The tool we use is a 4 ft long spear-like tool with a forked tip that we use to pry the taps from the trees. I used your spear strap technique with the sliding knot on the shaft and fixed knot on the butt end of the spear for my tap puller, and it has worked out well. I can slide the strap to the working end of the tool and it allows me to more easily get around, or I can pull the sliding knot closer to the butt end and it allows me to reach higher up on trees. Just wanted to say thanks, and tickle your brain with this modern workplace application of your technique.
See, that's something I've noticed. A lot of historians focus too much on trying to figure how people in the past did things to ask someone with relevant experience and some common sense how he'd do it. Human physiology and what is or isn't convenient didn't change much over the last few thousands of years.
@@JackPhoenixCz History is interested in how the past was, not in how the past could have been if we rely on some guy with no experience in fighting medieval wars who doesn't even consider that there may be other people around you while you have the tip of a spear swinging around at calf height so that nobody who doesn't look down will see it. I like Shad and it's cool that he does stuff like this but let's not pretend like it is more than one somewhat educated layman's opinion that, in this case, is also pretty bad.
This is one of the stupiest thing in DND - switching from spear to staff - when you need blunt damage. A spear IS a STAFF with a pointed end DAMN IT ! Just swing it instead of trusting it !
@@Angmir They actually used to have multiple damage types for weapons - in 2nd edition, on their absurdly massive list of polearms they list what damage types of crushing, piercing and slashing damage each type can do, and presumably a player could declare what they were doing (or a DM decided based on the description of swinging their halberd or whatever vs stabbing with it. 5e is vastly simplified from the older editions. (Though I have to admit, I was not thinking of that aspect when I wrote that - probably should've gone for something resistant to everything but slashing)
@@zestyoverlord6772 what good is a long spear if it doesn't have strength and breaks after the contact. The spear should have good strength and quality so that it'll withstand even after several thrust.
Hamish: Some men are longer than others. Campbell: Your mother's been telling stories about me again, ah? Love Braveheart no matter how bad the history is.
I like Genshin Impact's take on this: Your spear magically teloports to your back and floats directly behind you, and teloports right back into your hand as soon as you need it.
Thanks for this, we are going to implement this for spears in our game. As far as the longer spears and stuff goes, if you are simply doing it for the utilitarian purpose of freeing up your hands it still works just fine and as long as you are walking in open areas, with as easy as it is to arm and disarm with the sling it wouldn't make that much of difference to have to disarm for going into a more enclosed space with it.
I appreciate you not burying the lead. Within the first minute seconds, you more or less answer the question to what may be the satisfaction of some, only to go further in the rest of the video for the benefit of full context. Good form!
Simply put, the games lore explained the weapons. We never had to kill dragons so we would never make a sword spear or a cross spear. The weapons were designed to thrust into dragons, the cross shape most likely was added because it gave your feet the opprutunity to help drive into the dragon during a plunging motion. More power for a particular task, you see. The dragons in Dark Souls also resisted slashing attacks with their scales, so swords would fall out of favor, and the *arguably* less efficent proto-cross-spear, which is the sword spear itself, would only be marginally more effective at slashing due to the extra power from the leverage and weight. Again though, slashing was falling out of favor for slaying dragons. They took spears and bows to slay dragons, but they took swords to slay the demons. Now in any realistic sense, we never had to make weapons for this kind of purpose really. Ideally though we could use a weapon like a cross spear, to kill things like bears. The cross would help prevent the bear from pushing the spear in deeper, as well as help you drive it into the bear's head if you caught it asleep. Hell the sword spear might actually be a very effective weapon against something like an elephant or a tiger. But they aren't actually immeadiately useful for fighting other people. Obviously I could be wrong, as I am nowhere near someone else's authority on this subjecg, but I do have some intuition about this.
@@tirelessabysssgaming9807 Both of these weapons could be described as stylized examples of sword staffs, and here is the video where he talks about them Underappreciated Historical Weapons: the SWORDSTAFF: th-cam.com/video/-xIhCesfbYA/w-d-xo.html
@@tirelessabysssgaming9807 I guess my thought was he could compare the two weapons in game to historical counterparts and theorize as to their stated use in the lore and how effective that would be.
I would argue just an average hunter would have this. Along with a bow on his other side his quiver at his belt, and a long knife plus some smaller ones for gutting perhaps.
You should do the best weapons for each “element” (i.e., wind, fire, air, earth, etc, etc). You already did a video on elements, and you’ve done videos on the best weapons for *insert power here* . I think it’s a really cool idea and I’m really interested to what they would be.
21:50 one thing that you don't notice (or just forgot to mention in this part) and I hope Modern TV guy notice is that the warrior is carrying the spear with the tip upwards and that if it was down it could hurt the horse legs
Tip down is more dangerous for a walking person too assuming it is actually sharp. There's a lot you can get away with on pretend gear. In the real world, if this was used, tip up would have been the way to go. This is especially true for groups moving together. Every time you turn your tip down carry creates a larger cuttting arc and is more dangerrous than one in the air.
Tip down also exposes it far more to the elements (rocks, dirt, mud, water, grime, whatever) and would lead to the spear rusting/becoming damaged/losing its edge. Spears were pretty cheap but you'd surely want them to stay functional when you need to actually use them. Meanwhile, the only advantage of the "point down" carry is that it can be drawn quicker. But it's not a sidearm. It's a battlefield weapon. You'll typically be aware of the need to draw it several minutes in advance. Even a surprise attack would give you much more time than, say, when you're attacked alone by highway bandits.
@@isodoubIet additionally, the blunt end of a spear is still really dangerous, so even if tip up means the first move is basically what you'd do with a quarterstaff, it's not that big of a deal (particularly if the first thing you do is block)
the spartans aren't know for their art, but seeing this demonstrated i'm sure they saw the practacle uses of doing this and did. that's just conjecture though.
I have a hard time believing that they didn't do it historically. Perhaps its not in the artwork, but they may not have deemed it important. To well draw for the artwork.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but spears were stock issue items and one the advantages of the is the ease of changing range and deceptive use of angles due to the length, each of which is harder if the spear is attached to your back and the shaft has bulk.
When marching or in formation they would have to carry their spears in a similar way. Sadly it's that type of environment that would usually crush this kind of independent thinking. Calvary used them but pointed straight up.
Gotta say I love that Shad technically answers the question immediately in his video, meaning that if you're only interested in the clickbait you can instantly get your answer within 20 seconds... then stay around for 26 minutes to listen to him talk more about it. Great way to set up your videos!
Sometimes when I go snowshoeing, I wear my skis on my back for the way home. kinda feels like having a spear. Just wish I could put my skis on as quick as you drew that spear lol.
@@Cx10110100 In the Legacy of Kain games, since you're playing as a vampire with all types of powers, they do make it telekinesis for why the weapons stick to Kain's back, and how he can pick them up with TK off of the ground. One of the only times effort was thought of to have it make sense.
I think this is rather difficult to do. Only a few games have weapon slings. Like RDR2 or Uncharted. It requires many animations for taking it on and of and most devs likely dont priority this
One thing I love about shad is he’ll be shouting and enthusiastic about whatever he’s decided to talk about this time and then immediately he switches to post production shad and it sounds like he’s whispering in my ear.
Funny that, even in more recent history. Long metal things called rifles also had straps and slings to make carrying them easier. Not sure it would be as easy to draw them into a useable position, but certainly there is more than enough precedent for long objects intended as primary weapons, to be worn on one's back. 25:50 Shad becomes a bugged NPC who is repeating their lines in quick succession.
Love this! You've very clearly demonstrated how simply and practically carrying a spear of similar hafted weapon on the back can be, and like you said, its almost a given that someone in the past was also aware of this. I hope some video game designers might make a note of this! Therefore, I naturally think the next question is, since this is so remarkably practical, why wasn't this the norm as indicated by historical art and archaeological records? I would be curious to get a HEMA perspective on this method of carrying, because I suspect that may might reveal the final clue as to why this doesn't seem to have been prominent on the battlefields of the past. While great for carrying, perhaps the sling might interfere with certain combat techniques, or even provide an opponent with an opportunity to more easily grapple or other otherwise entangle your weapon. I am no HEMA expert, but perhaps somebody with more experience or greater means to test this can weigh in! One thing I do know, however, and I'm sure Shad agrees, is that the people of the past weren't stupid: when something clearly works, they embraced it. So the question logically stands as to whether there may have been a greater battlefield inconvenience that overshadowed the clear effectiveness of this method.
Winter campaigns are obviously less stressful when you wage war on the opposite side of the globe. Although ten thousand kilometers of intercontinental marching might make hard logistics.
As someone who hunts and uses a back sling i can tell you rn having it on your back makes it easier to move in the forest, if you need to duck under branches as already said you just slide the sling horizontal. Holding it in your hands while trudging through thick woods sucks, imagine going for a hike but instead of using a backpack like a sane person you hold all your crap in your arms the whole way lmfao
This reminds me so much of using a 2-point sling with a rifle it's mind-blowing. When shouldering my AR-15, the natural direction the muzzle goes is downwards when I sweep it to my back, and this also allows for a very fluid re-shouldering of the rifle. In the rifle's case, though, some places don't want you to have the muzzle down as a discharge is gonna cause bullet splash on the pavement, which is typically more likely to injure or even kill someone if you're on a paved surface than if the barrel were pointed up and sends the round miles through the air. Could hit someone coming back down, but bullet splash point-blank is a lot more likely to cause harm. So while it's more natural to wear the rifle muzzle down, for safety reasons, sometimes you wear it pointed up. I wonder if similar safety issues would determine which way a spear would be worn on the back. I imagine on horseback, spear tip down is more likely to injure the horse than spear tip up. May be other times when the tip up is preferred over tip down.
That is one thing that we don't see very often in video games, the spear specialist. And I'm referring to like the fighting style in "the way of Kings"
I'm glad you're making videos on this subject. A variety of sources indicate that historical soldiers sometimes carried a surprising array of weapons and could switch through them quickly as needed. The same for armed civilians, in certain cases. For instance, Henry Barrett's 1562 military manual assigns archers "a maule of leade with a pyke of five inches longe, well stieled, sett in a staff of fyve foote of lengthe" that was worn "with a hooke at his gyrdell." I don't know exactly how this can be done conveniently, but apparently it was done. Similarly, Roger Ascham mentioned archers having lead mauls or similar weapons hanging on their backs. And Joseph Swetnam's early 17th-century fencing manual noted a person who wore a Welsh hook on his back in a civilian context.
the answer is pretty obviously yah. there are two real life historical examples of that style of like perpendicular to the hand blade, push daggers, the Indian Katar and Pata(which he made a video about a while ago.)
Off the top of my head: they would propably be at least as heavy as normal shield of the same size and materials (if not heavier due to the retraction mechanism and possible need of reinforcing the structure), and the opening/closing of such shield would likely be just slightly faster than, for example, taking one off your back. Not to mention the amount of work involved in manufacturing them would inevitably be greater than ordinary shields (which could be important if you want to mass-produce). There is also a question of structural integrity of such a shield. On the other hand, a retractable shield could potentially be useful in some specific situations (where carrying a traditional one would be in one way or another impossible or detrimental), though i fail to imagine one right now. And forget about concealment, this would still be a large chunk of metal and/or wood attached to your arm. Could be more practical if made of leather or something similar, though this would possibly decrease the protection it offers (never held a leather shield in my life or seen it in action). In conclusion: look cool, but not really worth the effort.
@@blacklegbeastro5295 Well yes, if you apply magic just about anything can be effective or practical. Personally I wouldn't consider it epic in any case, but that is a much more subjective matter.
I can completely believe that soldiers on a long march, where the possibility of combat is never zero but is unlikely, would use some sort of sling for their spear simply so they didn't have to hold it.
I think there are too many for shad to cover even if he only covers europe and I don't think he practices HIMA but i think Matt Easton of Schalagoadiatoria has a few videos about it
Suggestion: What weapon would be your weapon of choice in a world like the one in Horizon Zero Dawn? The weapon needs to be effective against robotic and human enemies, and preferably doesn't damage the robots too badly to allow the salvage of their parts in my mind.
@@ZinbaForLife i would say hammer aswell, piercing weapons are well out of the choices considering the thickness of the metal of the robots, you would really need knowlodge to where the weakpoints are and that's assuming you can attack it there before it trashes you. Cutting weapons are not a choice aswell, considering the robots. A maul or battlehammer for two handed could do well.
@@inconickuous547 okay, slings can have a huge force without necessarily needing much strenght from the user, still, it hardly is strong enough to cause demage to refined metal plates out of which the robots are made, too litle surface of impact too.
I'm curious how all of this weapon carrying holds up when you're also wearing a backpack or something. A true adventurer is never without 50 potions they'll never use, 200 random monster parts, a lantern full of highly flammable oil, 10 lit torches, a change of clothes, and an entire cheese wheel.
That would probably help, actually - if you put the spear through the back of your belt because it's too long to wear on your shoulder, then putting your backpack over it would probably help hold it in place
Exactly. His discussion ignores the need to carry adventuring gear. Just think of how much a modern day hiker carries when camping outdoors then consider that an adventurer would need to carry even more.
It actually holds up just fine. If your backpack goes over it, it helps hold it in place if you're basically walking all day. If your backpack goes under it, it doesn't interfere that much.
I suddenly got the image of Shad being a salesman from the middle ages, trying to show people the convenience of a Spear Strap(tm)
*slaps the strap
Shad: this bad boy can fit 1 spear on your back
Aight, I'm making a Shad npc
@@James.D.B. Yesssss
Shad would be like that one guy from James Bond movies that provides the hero with gadgets, but in a medieval setting
@@Axel230 This, Sir Bond, is a kite shield
A soldier is only wielding and using his weapon for a fraction of the time that he's on duty. Every other moment, he's stuck carrying it.
If a thing can be carried in some useful way, then I'm sure that it was. Even if it wasn't glamorous enough to make it into the artwork. Just carrying stuff usually isn't glamorous.
Pretty much this.
After all most wars back then consist mostly of going somewhere and a little bit of fighting... not saying the battles were small. However compare the time to get to the fight to the time actually fighting... unless it is some seriously prolonged siege traveling or winter camping was what they be mostly doing.
They did not have back-scabbards but I'm sure someone got annoyed by a hand a half sword dangling from his hips and all the time... its not like he had to have it combat ready all the time. Or a shield... a shield in hand blocks the hand from doing anything else... it gets heavy over time as well. If you are not using it and know you wont need it in the next foreseeable future it easily carried on the back...
Personally i don't think you would carry a spear, it would make a perfectly good walking stick which is helpful compared to carrying it all the time, also you could use it get rid of spider webs if your in the woods, or move low branches :p
Usually, they had guys to carry weapons for them did they not? Like either servants, sword-bearers, or squires?
@@CosmicG777 the average foot soldier probably did not.
@@CosmicG777 ya a knight might have someone carry it for them, but soldiers probably carried them. Also they probably had more spears than peaple so they would likely have most of the spears in a cart.
In 1000 years when they unearth smart phones. They will spend years debating how we held them.
Controversy intensifies when they find out about Apple's "you're holding it wrong."
Agreed with you on that.
there will be a whole movement debating the vertical over the horizontal grip as being the superior grip
not relevant. phones can be held anywhere, even inside your prison pocket. a 2H spear cannot. logic failed u here, sir
I would love to see their debates on cellphone wrist holsters :D
In a world where “adventuring” was a profession, methods of hanging most weapons on the body to free up both hands (for climbing or something else) would certainly develop and become common.
Just look at Carpenters and Tool belts. Necessity led to innovation, and thus the tool belt was created.
I agree just want to add that there are still limits (like shad sort-of said try it with a pike).
@@petrkinkal1509 Certainly limits. Hard to strap a halberd to your back, even if just temporarily.
@@James-kv3ll Hard to strap a turk cannon to your back ay?
Hi James I am impressed you got that name for your TH-cam account props to you
Fantasy: Adventuring
Reality: Take whatever shit job out of desperation and very likely bloodshed involved.
Shad literally made a Two-Point Adjustable rifle sling for a spear, things that work, work especially given that both are longarms in a way.
fair
Thats literally what i thought and carrying it tip down like he did in the beginning is a bit of a safari carry.
And we know 19th century lancers carried in just such a fashion. Lots of photos from WWI of lancers carrying lances on slings just like infantry carried rifles.
War. War never changes
Especially with a bayonet. In a way, a spear is just a quarter staff with a bayonet attached, and a rifle with a bayonet is a spear with a gun built into it. Add a masterkeyed grenade launcher and you've got four ways to end somebody in one handy tool. Smack stab bag ka-POW.
Me carrying my spear on my back.
Doorway:YOU SHALL NOT PASSS WITHOUT ADJUSTMENT!!!
Easy.
*Just create a spear-shaped hole*
@@somethingsomethingsomethingdar My mind is blown
@@somethingsomethingsomethingdar It's mostly just an artistic choice, but good head canon.
The way is shut. It was made by those who are normal.
Here, let me get the likes on your comment to three digits
Legend tells that even now, after the outro is long over, Shad is "still walking" with that spear on his back...
Even as we sleep, he is still walking with that spear on his back.
His kids uploaded the video when they found his camera still recording.
UPDATE........he just walked past my house (in Europe).....last seen heading towards the US
In my opinion shads next video should start with him ariving back home from his walk with the spear
@@Hikieblitz With longer hair and beard and weathered clothing. So, that he would looked rugged.
Just use it as a walking stick. In the immortal words of Gandalf: "you would not part an old man from his walking stick." Tis not a weapon. Don't mind the pointy bit at the top, tis only a decoration.
I actualy commented this about the flag
*looks at Sarumans Staff* Well, your walking stick isn't that pointy, you're fine.
Reminds of a bit from a different book. An english longbowman was traveling through france during the hundred years war, just after Agincourt. He was on a quest to find the holy grail, because reasons. He was also the son of a priest, and thus had some priestly education. Obviously, longbowman were very unpopular in france at the time, as were the english. So he had to hide. How did he hide? He pretended to be a traveling priest, and to disguise his gigantic warbow, he tied a bit of wood to one end and pretended it was just a priests staff.
That was my first thought, too. My second thought however was: The Romans used something called a furca to help carry their gear. Bascially a staff to hang your stuff from that you carry on your shoulder (and the shield you'd be carrying on your back). Most spears could fulfill that function, too.
@@Santisima_Trinidad Another reader of Bernard Cornwell, who had multiple books set during that time. You are referencing one of four (I don't remember which it would have been in): Harlequin, Vagabond and Heretic were part of his grail quest series and Azincourt is likely set around then as well. Both the series and Azincourt focus on English bowmen, although don't I think Azincourt had the holy grail.
this is a really specific thing, but as someone with no car who walks everywhere, that's how i always carry things like plumbing pipes, wooden dowels, fabric bolts, etc. i made a canvas strap i can wrap around them so i can sling them over my shoulder.
I was a scout once, a team leader actually and I would always carry our standard and at some point I got tired of carrying it around and I did the same thing to it (obviously I would carry it with the flag facing up, not down). It's a lot more convenient than carrying it in a hand. Funnily enough, after some brief debate between the superiors on whether it isn't a travesty to the symbol, I started seeing other scout troops do it too. So as a person who used it for like 3 years every weekend, I can confirm that it's probably the best way to carry a long stick lol.
Surely you weren't carrying the guidon as a TL
@@Dadecorban I mean.. I'm Polish and was part of the Federation of European Scouting (FSE). Every team has their own guidon (thx, didn't know the English word) here, though it is far less fancy than the guidon of the company. Made from simple fabric by the members of the team. The actual company guidons are way too big to carry on one's back first of all and they are also too important.
@@jakubgodlewski9104 Polish. That's all I needed to know. In the US Army NCOs normally aren't responsible for the guidons.
@@Dadecorban Well also army and scouting are different things.
@@jakubgodlewski9104 Scout is a job in the Army. Team Leader is a position. lol. Okay. I think I went down the wrong route with this.
Shad is becoming a lord with his castle, even though he is also all the soldiers. His power is immense
He is also the all the babies and all elders
@@Rodrigo-ge5wy and the women
@@vegito5626 nah he has a lady and heirs
Palpatine should have cloned him instead of Jango Fett
@@sanguineregis5354 maybe, or maybe he is fooling us all
one huge advantage of your design is that, the way you have it set up, wherever yo8u'Re going with your spear, you're also bringing a rope, which is an awesome general purpose tool to have on your person, climbing, building a shelter, laying traps, tying up a prisoner or a captured beast and so on.
Could also tie it to the spear to make it easier to find if thrown
This occurred to me as well, it's a GREAT way to store rope.
And hanging people!
@@OlafKnolaf cause we all love watch our enemies "hanging" around us.
@@OlafKnolaf just hanging with friends, as you do.
Great video and it's got me thinking about carrying spears and lances on horseback. There are many ways of doing that. I may have to make a quick reply video with some ideas for you!
I think on horse you might want point up to keep it away from the horse a bit, wouldn't want to risk injury. Another thing if you slung it across your back only After mounting, it could be slung for the majority of the shaft to go downwards, you got the height of the horse so it wouldn't drag on the ground. Could be awkward if you got off quick with it that way though.
Yes!!!! Please do 😁
That would be so awesome!
If you were to make an attachment yourself, here's a useful drawing for you, it dates from 1901 and shows a Russian Cossak pattern lance, still with a wooden shaft (which would be useful for your testing purposes), and a method of shoulder and footsling attachment is shown in detail: ataman.ucoz.ru/506770.gif All measurments are in inches, except for the following: overall length is 120.75", from the tip up to part no. 10 (a 2.2-inch long sling with a wooden knob called _balberka,_ which one is to tuck through his belt to work with a foot-loop as a carrying method) it is 68.25", shoulder sling is 14-17.5" long and 1.75" wide. Hope that helps!
Consider wearing pauldrons and a helmet as part of your tests. Shad's premise doesn't address this sufficiently.
Shad's neighbor's kid: Moooom, the crazy medieval man has a spear on his back.
Again...
"You're scaring my children!"
Moooom, can I climb in that castleeee?
Shad's neighbor's kid: Mooom, now I have the crazy medieval man's spear in my back but he still hasn't noticed.
Shad: Whats the point?
Me: That was a beautiful pun
I totally expected him to go "It's right there, on the end bit."
Shad: "What's the point?"
Me: "Its the sharp thing on the end of your spear, but that's not important right now"
Over one shoulder is very much like how one might sling a rifle in modern times while on the march. Similar movement to simply spin the angery end around toward the enemy and get to business.
True, although in most recent years, with compact assault rifles and carbines, most guys are carrying them on their chest.
@@DrygdorDradgvork Reminds me of those knife and pistol holsters on the chest as well, especially the ones pirates loved to wear. Like for example Edward Teach(Blackbeard) had several pistol and throwing knife holsters lacing his jacket. Where people tend to put their weapons is dictated by the size of them.
True another use for the sling is to wrap your arm in it to gain more stability. This would work well if your using a spear one handed, gives just a bit more support.
I'm sorry, but this just isn't true. Soldiers in basic training are given a sling but aren't allowed to use it except during chow and drill. Chow slinging a rifle is over the head and over the dominant arm, muzzle down, magazine well up. It reflects readiness, as in that position it can slide under the dominant arm into a firing position easily. Slinging rifles on a march is unthinkable. Weapons on march(patrol, because lets be honest, we're not marching to war anymore, we go on trucks and planes) are at the low ready.
@@edwardstradinger4592 I am a soldier. I used my sling in BCT for I knew what I was doing. I still use it when I need to qualify on my rifle at my unit. (I also used the sling on ruck marches at BCT to help hold it up at the low port ready DS never caught me)
Scholars believe that, to this day, Shad is still walking.
Me wearing a long spear on my back and chasing after fleeing enemy.
A low hanging branch: *So you have chosen death?*
Oof
Why would you equip spear and other heavy weapons (dagger on your side maybe)? If you are chasing after someone as "kill or be killed" situation, you would usually not run with your spear on your back, especially closer to the guy you are chasing (and in this scenario in the forest). At least that is how I see it x), or you just as you said have a death-wish.
Very fitting comment from someone named "god of death"
You should've unscrewed the pommel of your sword and yeeted it instead
@@5daboz there may be situations where you cannot choose which weapon you can bring.
"It really depends on how big your spear is"
Shad 2020
feel free to take that out of context
“That is what she said” - Michael Scott
I suspect that spears were never carried on the March. Swords were probably carried specifically to respond to roadside ambush. The spears would be carried on wagons and carts and distributed before battle due to their weight and length. knights had other people carry their lances before entering battle fairly often. It is possible that spears carried on the back was something only wandering travelers might have. Hunters out to spear a boar from horseback, etc. A scout traveling alone and needing a Lance to break past a hasty trap on a roadside on full gallop. Or something. It may not have been a battlefield habit, but a hunter or poor travelers habit.
Was just thinking the same thing. I would think it more practical to quick draw a sword in a sudden defense situation.
Like they say about military handguns - "A pistol is for fighting your way to your rifle."
nomads and light cavalry(like ulhans) would do it too i think
On the other hand, there is waking canes etc.
So it can be nice to have your spear on you when marching long distances
And swords are very expensive too
Humans were carrying spears for ten-thousand years
Not everyone had a cart, but maybe the Squires/Servants/Guy who drew a bad lot are carrying a spear bundle with the spears of a group like someone carrying a fascista (Axe + Sticks), only in this case, it's all sharp on one end and they make them bring up the rear. Spearbearers are mentioned all the time in history and myth, maybe a more utilitarian version was used for the less well off.
The lazy ass that I am would love that it were true. Like the modern soldier, the medieval soldier would be responsible for carrying their kit, weapons and all, wherever they went, at all times, to be battle-ready. Carts would be reserved for items that make the army run and are difficult for a single man to carry; comestibles, fresh water, large tents, workshops, spare parts, spare weapons, etc.
``the important question is: can I draw it fast?`` To answer this burning question we shall consult the one and only Jazza! :)
We desperately need more Jazza on the channel. I'm not overly interested in his content, but he is so enjoyable as a part of Shad's content. Asher is of course invited as well, being the best archer in the family and all.
"I recon I could get it off if I really, really yanked it."
- Shad 2020
@Niek Vels Argonian maids are very keen to polish it ;)
He said this right when I read your comment. :'D
If there's one thing I learned with Shad is that you can carry *ANYTHING* on your back, practically, and conveniently, naysayers be damned. (" -.-)
Carry my team on my back
next episode, how to conveniently wear a ballista on your back
@@shadowling77777 pretty much Gandalf's average day
@@jerichamesclammay3107 Lmao
@@joanignasi91 Episode after that, how to carry a TREBUCHET on your back
I wish "huh? what? what? what? what-? you want to fight? the goblins? waha! hahaha!" was a videogame npc dialogue
if I end up making my game, it will be XD
30 seconds in and I already have exactly what I needed for my novel. I figured you could probably use a shoulder strap like a rifle, but point down instead of up? That I didn't think of, thank you very much.
Me: sees thumbnail.
Also me: remembers shad carrying almost every feesible weapon on his back in another video.
I'd say yes.
6:45: "People have often, very often opted, if it was not too inconvenient, to hang weapons on their person to free up their arms."
It's not just the convenience of having your hands free. It's also nice to be able to put that weight on your back rather than in your hands, because arms tend to tire out from carrying weight much more quickly than backs and legs do.
Yeah exactly, thats the primary reason ppl do it when hunting, otherwise you'll be too tired to hold the damned thing up after a few hours of trudging through rugged woods haha
Damn, this whole topic is so expansive It's insane.
As someone writing a comic script where one of the main characters is a spear wielder...I thank you greatly for this video
1:10 "What's the Point?"
Well its that spiky bit on the end of the spear, Shad.
I think you’re brilliant the way you try to scientifically prove the theory instead of just running your mouth.
First sword, then axe, now spears. Shad is determined to wear everything on his back.
Next video he will show us how to carry an armor on the back and put it on with a simple shoulder movement
"How to draw a bow from the back"
The final boss of 2020
@@tigershark8867 then how to fire it from your back 2022
Can't wait to see how he pulls off putting on full plate from the back one handed
Jazza's gonna end up in a backpack.
The primary obstacle to wearing any weapon on one's back is also the primary obstacle to every D&D party: *D O O R S*
My guy is 7ft tall, so spears are the least of his problems 😂
sure, but in reality unless you are assualting a city you won't be armed in it, and if you are assualting it you would be holding your weapon going through a door. the strap would be for marches out on the open 90% of the time.
@@cageybee7221 D&D. Reality. Logic.
Also - T R E E S
I can tell you, with great certainty, back quivers are pretty terrible for not being in an open plain. I can only imagine how bad trying to walk in the woods with a spear or sword stuck to your back would be.
Not even on my back, I was holding my spear vertically in one hand when I tried to walk thru a doorway. Banged my own forehead. 😁
Hey Shad, I watched this video a couple of weeks ago and it has actually helped me out with my job. I work at a maple sugar bush and we are currently pulling the maple taps out of the trees. The tool we use is a 4 ft long spear-like tool with a forked tip that we use to pry the taps from the trees. I used your spear strap technique with the sliding knot on the shaft and fixed knot on the butt end of the spear for my tap puller, and it has worked out well. I can slide the strap to the working end of the tool and it allows me to more easily get around, or I can pull the sliding knot closer to the butt end and it allows me to reach higher up on trees. Just wanted to say thanks, and tickle your brain with this modern workplace application of your technique.
Die-hard historians: NO YOU CANT JUST PUT SOMETHING ON YOUR BACK ITS IMPRACTICAL
Shad: well actually.....
See, that's something I've noticed. A lot of historians focus too much on trying to figure how people in the past did things to ask someone with relevant experience and some common sense how he'd do it. Human physiology and what is or isn't convenient didn't change much over the last few thousands of years.
Fact is: there are no visual evidence in the historical sources that spears were carried on the back. Period.
@@JackPhoenixCz That's because what what you're describing is archaeology. Most academics don't think about looking outside of their discipline.
@@juanzulu1318 fact: paintings can’t show everything people do
@@JackPhoenixCz History is interested in how the past was, not in how the past could have been if we rely on some guy with no experience in fighting medieval wars who doesn't even consider that there may be other people around you while you have the tip of a spear swinging around at calf height so that nobody who doesn't look down will see it.
I like Shad and it's cool that he does stuff like this but let's not pretend like it is more than one somewhat educated layman's opinion that, in this case, is also pretty bad.
Ok, so he answered the question in only 21 seconds just to show he can, but still made 26 minuets of dedication to the subject.
Love that man!
Spearman: "Oh shit a skeleton! Guess I'm boned!"
Shad: "Have you considered a rope so you can switch to a mace without dropping your spear?"
This is one of the stupiest thing in DND - switching from spear to staff - when you need blunt damage.
A spear IS a STAFF with a pointed end DAMN IT ! Just swing it instead of trusting it !
@@Angmir They actually used to have multiple damage types for weapons - in 2nd edition, on their absurdly massive list of polearms they list what damage types of crushing, piercing and slashing damage each type can do, and presumably a player could declare what they were doing (or a DM decided based on the description of swinging their halberd or whatever vs stabbing with it. 5e is vastly simplified from the older editions.
(Though I have to admit, I was not thinking of that aspect when I wrote that - probably should've gone for something resistant to everything but slashing)
@@Angmir just say you bonk the skelly with the spear haft for crush damage and call bullshit if the DM doesn't allow it
That’s when you carry a gotentag (combination spear & club).
@@brijekavervix7340 I like how you think.
"It really depends on how big your spear is."
Size doesn't matter
@@themanthemyth4522 we both know that’s a lie made up by people with small spears
@@zestyoverlord6772 it's not about the length, it's all about the utility of the head
@@zestyoverlord6772 what good is a long spear if it doesn't have strength and breaks after the contact. The spear should have good strength and quality so that it'll withstand even after several thrust.
Hamish:
Some men are longer than others.
Campbell:
Your mother's been telling stories about me again, ah?
Love Braveheart no matter how bad the history is.
1:10
"what's the point?"
Thought we didn't notice, but we did.
I carry my rifle the same way you carry it over your shoulder. Left side pointed down. Realquick to pull up into aim.
Congratulations on your victory in the Metatron tournament Shad
MACHICOLATIONS!
If I can carry my team , I for sure can carry a damn spear on my back.
dont you have gun
@@temugebagira6592 I fail to see your point
@@goodyaum the character in the op's pfp is named Shizu(which is also the og's name) and she carries a huge gun behind her back
@@temugebagira6592 what about a gun-spear?
Nice
1:17 "I have a bit of an attachment to my spear"
Don't we all?
Are bump stocks for spears banned yet?
@@abrahamlincoln9758 get ready to get raided by ATF for your spear bump stock and suppressor. Hide your dog :P
@@lurtztheorc *proceeds to add a Tac-Light onto the spear*
@@PrimordialNightmare [proceeds to add bayonet to spear]
@@abrahamlincoln9758 I hope one of those bayonets that are basically an entire saber!
Ngl, that spear draw at the start was hot
badass af. video games need to take a hint
That spear draw turned me gay
Quickdraw Shad: Fastest spear in the Outback
Okay this is awesome, but the real challenge has presented itself: How on earth would you carry a *morningstar* conveniently?
just don't, it's a useless weapon
I've got a place :)
@@piratenflipper a mace with spikes? why?
You only use it when defending a fortification, so your mates can drag you back quickly after you bang yourself with it.
You'd wait for sunset, then it's easier to carry
"I'm still walkin'" had to be the best part
A rope and spear can also be used as a fishing rod.
I like Genshin Impact's take on this: Your spear magically teloports to your back and floats directly behind you, and teloports right back into your hand as soon as you need it.
Thanks for this, we are going to implement this for spears in our game. As far as the longer spears and stuff goes, if you are simply doing it for the utilitarian purpose of freeing up your hands it still works just fine and as long as you are walking in open areas, with as easy as it is to arm and disarm with the sling it wouldn't make that much of difference to have to disarm for going into a more enclosed space with it.
Shad’s Wife: where did all the rope go I know I had it right here
Meanwhile with shad: let’s use this for educational purposes
So ummm... why does Shads wife want the rope anyway? lol.
@@stephenhawk1762 This is a very knotty question. Answering it might leave more loose ends than it ties up.
@@wilhelmhohenzollern576 Or it might leave what's tied up with a loose end. 😛
@@wilhelmhohenzollern576 that was terrible, take my like and get off the stage
@@wilhelmhohenzollern576 Take my like and tell me where to hang on for your next pun.
I appreciate you not burying the lead. Within the first minute seconds, you more or less answer the question to what may be the satisfaction of some, only to go further in the rest of the video for the benefit of full context. Good form!
We need a pop culture weapons analyzed: Nameless King’s Sword Spear and Dragonslayer Ornstein’s Cross Spear
My favorite is the swordspear :D
Simply put, the games lore explained the weapons. We never had to kill dragons so we would never make a sword spear or a cross spear. The weapons were designed to thrust into dragons, the cross shape most likely was added because it gave your feet the opprutunity to help drive into the dragon during a plunging motion. More power for a particular task, you see. The dragons in Dark Souls also resisted slashing attacks with their scales, so swords would fall out of favor, and the *arguably* less efficent proto-cross-spear, which is the sword spear itself, would only be marginally more effective at slashing due to the extra power from the leverage and weight. Again though, slashing was falling out of favor for slaying dragons. They took spears and bows to slay dragons, but they took swords to slay the demons.
Now in any realistic sense, we never had to make weapons for this kind of purpose really. Ideally though we could use a weapon like a cross spear, to kill things like bears. The cross would help prevent the bear from pushing the spear in deeper, as well as help you drive it into the bear's head if you caught it asleep. Hell the sword spear might actually be a very effective weapon against something like an elephant or a tiger. But they aren't actually immeadiately useful for fighting other people.
Obviously I could be wrong, as I am nowhere near someone else's authority on this subjecg, but I do have some intuition about this.
He made a video on sword spears, I can’t remember the title but he did.
@@tirelessabysssgaming9807 Both of these weapons could be described as stylized examples of sword staffs, and here is the video where he talks about them
Underappreciated Historical Weapons: the SWORDSTAFF: th-cam.com/video/-xIhCesfbYA/w-d-xo.html
@@tirelessabysssgaming9807 I guess my thought was he could compare the two weapons in game to historical counterparts and theorize as to their stated use in the lore and how effective that would be.
I imagine this tactic would be more common with someone who is carrying a spear as part of day to day life.
Such as Adventurers?
@@lildragon6415 If we Somehow evolving with Magic not Technologies, and Adventurer Corps becomes a thing then yeah.
I would argue just an average hunter would have this. Along with a bow on his other side his quiver at his belt, and a long knife plus some smaller ones for gutting perhaps.
You should do the best weapons for each “element” (i.e., wind, fire, air, earth, etc, etc). You already did a video on elements, and you’ve done videos on the best weapons for *insert power here* . I think it’s a really cool idea and I’m really interested to what they would be.
Shad is transforming into Chad! 👌😎
Isn't he a chad already?
Chadiversity. It works.
>assuming he wasn't the Über-Chad all along
@@abrahamlincoln9758 you got their before me sir .. well done 😉
>fighting a monster that is particularly resistant to thrusts
Ah, yes, my ex.
Well you know javelins aren't anti amour weapons you know.....
Oof size large
Does that monster happen to have tentacles?
@@wilhelmhohenzollern576 I wish
Maybe the spear wasn't... long enough?
21:50 one thing that you don't notice (or just forgot to mention in this part) and I hope Modern TV guy notice is that the warrior is carrying the spear with the tip upwards and that if it was down it could hurt the horse legs
Tip down is more dangerous for a walking person too assuming it is actually sharp. There's a lot you can get away with on pretend gear. In the real world, if this was used, tip up would have been the way to go. This is especially true for groups moving together. Every time you turn your tip down carry creates a larger cuttting arc and is more dangerrous than one in the air.
Tip down also exposes it far more to the elements (rocks, dirt, mud, water, grime, whatever) and would lead to the spear rusting/becoming damaged/losing its edge. Spears were pretty cheap but you'd surely want them to stay functional when you need to actually use them. Meanwhile, the only advantage of the "point down" carry is that it can be drawn quicker. But it's not a sidearm. It's a battlefield weapon. You'll typically be aware of the need to draw it several minutes in advance. Even a surprise attack would give you much more time than, say, when you're attacked alone by highway bandits.
@@isodoubIet additionally, the blunt end of a spear is still really dangerous, so even if tip up means the first move is basically what you'd do with a quarterstaff, it's not that big of a deal (particularly if the first thing you do is block)
Thank you so much Shad, I needed this just in time to write my spear-wielding MC.
the spartans aren't know for their art, but seeing this demonstrated i'm sure they saw the practacle uses of doing this and did. that's just conjecture though.
I think it was probably easier for them to just walk with a spear normally.
I'm sure Kaladin Stormblessed would approve of this video
I have a hard time believing that they didn't do it historically. Perhaps its not in the artwork, but they may not have deemed it important. To well draw for the artwork.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but spears were stock issue items and one the advantages of the is the ease of changing range and deceptive use of angles due to the length, each of which is harder if the spear is attached to your back and the shaft has bulk.
Same. It's so easy to do that it seems like they would've at some point in time at least.
I guess they did it while marching, but took it of for fighting
When marching or in formation they would have to carry their spears in a similar way. Sadly it's that type of environment that would usually crush this kind of independent thinking. Calvary used them but pointed straight up.
Shad could you do a video on the thickness and different alloys used on Medieval European plate armor?
Also while you're at it, thickness and different crust on Midievel European pizzas 🤤
@@skullair52 thin and crispy is the only way to go if you dont want burned at the stake like a heretic.
Gotta say I love that Shad technically answers the question immediately in his video, meaning that if you're only interested in the clickbait you can instantly get your answer within 20 seconds... then stay around for 26 minutes to listen to him talk more about it. Great way to set up your videos!
"I'm still walking" made me crack up for some reason...
Sometimes when I go snowshoeing, I wear my skis on my back for the way home. kinda feels like having a spear. Just wish I could put my skis on as quick as you drew that spear lol.
Now over to JoergSprave where he will introduce you to the Spear Luncher and tell you about all of it's features.
Games should start having slings to make back carrying more immersive
Nah, it will be held there by a force field
@@Cx10110100 Haha, the one thing all medieval games have in common, the force is with all of them!
It's forgone because a sling clips.
@@Cx10110100 In the Legacy of Kain games, since you're playing as a vampire with all types of powers, they do make it telekinesis for why the weapons stick to Kain's back, and how he can pick them up with TK off of the ground. One of the only times effort was thought of to have it make sense.
I think this is rather difficult to do. Only a few games have weapon slings. Like RDR2 or Uncharted. It requires many animations for taking it on and of and most devs likely dont priority this
One thing I love about shad is he’ll be shouting and enthusiastic about whatever he’s decided to talk about this time and then immediately he switches to post production shad and it sounds like he’s whispering in my ear.
Funny that, even in more recent history. Long metal things called rifles also had straps and slings to make carrying them easier. Not sure it would be as easy to draw them into a useable position, but certainly there is more than enough precedent for long objects intended as primary weapons, to be worn on one's back.
25:50 Shad becomes a bugged NPC who is repeating their lines in quick succession.
Shad's next video, how to carry the world on your back.
People wore poles on their backs for ages up to modern times.
There's even special pole-shaped carriers for posters and such.
Japanese would use tall flags on their back so that generals could identify their units in the battlefield. Definitely not a new or odd idea.
@@Serahpin why not just use it as a spear, and a walking stick if your patrolling a fort
@@blacklegbeastro5295
Because then you can always carry the flag visible and still fight as it frees up your hands.
Yes but the pole had a disadvantage of having extra weight without having any fighting value
And thats why only a handful wore them
Love this! You've very clearly demonstrated how simply and practically carrying a spear of similar hafted weapon on the back can be, and like you said, its almost a given that someone in the past was also aware of this. I hope some video game designers might make a note of this! Therefore, I naturally think the next question is, since this is so remarkably practical, why wasn't this the norm as indicated by historical art and archaeological records? I would be curious to get a HEMA perspective on this method of carrying, because I suspect that may might reveal the final clue as to why this doesn't seem to have been prominent on the battlefields of the past.
While great for carrying, perhaps the sling might interfere with certain combat techniques, or even provide an opponent with an opportunity to more easily grapple or other otherwise entangle your weapon. I am no HEMA expert, but perhaps somebody with more experience or greater means to test this can weigh in! One thing I do know, however, and I'm sure Shad agrees, is that the people of the past weren't stupid: when something clearly works, they embraced it. So the question logically stands as to whether there may have been a greater battlefield inconvenience that overshadowed the clear effectiveness of this method.
the medieval artwork indicates the use of the "firm buttocks-method"
My man Shad always up in here giving me good material that I can use to make my DnD worlds more immersive.
Shad flexing on us snow bound people with his green grass and sunny weather...
Excellent video, sir!
lol
well, it is summer there...
Winter campaigns are obviously less stressful when you wage war on the opposite side of the globe.
Although ten thousand kilometers of intercontinental marching might make hard logistics.
This introduction is gold
Adventurer with a spear on his back: ...
Forest: "I'm your worst enemy!"
Halfling "ha jokes on you"
Just walk like Jack Sparrow in the 2nd movie when he is tied to a stick, not so comfortable but it works against low branches.
Just swing it to horizontal
Any short race: "not today"
As someone who hunts and uses a back sling i can tell you rn having it on your back makes it easier to move in the forest, if you need to duck under branches as already said you just slide the sling horizontal. Holding it in your hands while trudging through thick woods sucks, imagine going for a hike but instead of using a backpack like a sane person you hold all your crap in your arms the whole way lmfao
Thumbnails are on point shad 10/10
This reminds me so much of using a 2-point sling with a rifle it's mind-blowing.
When shouldering my AR-15, the natural direction the muzzle goes is downwards when I sweep it to my back, and this also allows for a very fluid re-shouldering of the rifle.
In the rifle's case, though, some places don't want you to have the muzzle down as a discharge is gonna cause bullet splash on the pavement, which is typically more likely to injure or even kill someone if you're on a paved surface than if the barrel were pointed up and sends the round miles through the air. Could hit someone coming back down, but bullet splash point-blank is a lot more likely to cause harm.
So while it's more natural to wear the rifle muzzle down, for safety reasons, sometimes you wear it pointed up. I wonder if similar safety issues would determine which way a spear would be worn on the back. I imagine on horseback, spear tip down is more likely to injure the horse than spear tip up. May be other times when the tip up is preferred over tip down.
I think you could even attach a little hook on the shoulder to make the string stick.
This.
I think modern battle harnesses have small shoulder hooks attached to them so your assault rifle can just hang in there.
I finished Shadow of the Conqueror Shad, great job buddy!
Shad -ow ;) hahaha xD
@@vargenfenrisson1164 Possibly the worst pun of all time. 😬😂
@@fianna582 there are a few more that i can think of. but atleast better than any of the skallagrim jokes xD
Ralphy: can I wear a spear on my back?
Santa: you'll poke your eye out kid.
well. and now i know how the cityguards in my campaign are wearing their goedendag during their patrols.
Ooh, a goedendag! Excellent under-appreciated weaponry. I tip my cap to thee, sire!
That is one thing that we don't see very often in video games, the spear specialist. And I'm referring to like the fighting style in "the way of Kings"
some say shad is still walking to this day.
I definetly need to try that out.
I'm excited for Scholagladatoria's response haha, he usually does for Shad's {insert weapon} carried on back videos.
I *really* wanted to see Shad try walking through his gate "smoothly" with that spear on his back...
Just like half draw it if it's too long bow it forward as you approach and then step inside yourself.
I'm glad you're making videos on this subject. A variety of sources indicate that historical soldiers sometimes carried a surprising array of weapons and could switch through them quickly as needed. The same for armed civilians, in certain cases. For instance, Henry Barrett's 1562 military manual assigns archers "a maule of leade with a pyke of five inches longe, well stieled, sett in a staff of fyve foote of lengthe" that was worn "with a hooke at his gyrdell." I don't know exactly how this can be done conveniently, but apparently it was done. Similarly, Roger Ascham mentioned archers having lead mauls or similar weapons hanging on their backs. And Joseph Swetnam's early 17th-century fencing manual noted a person who wore a Welsh hook on his back in a civilian context.
Suggestion: How Practical are Psi-Blades from Starcraft?
You didn't see the very first protoss cinematic from the original campaign? :p
the answer is pretty obviously yah. there are two real life historical examples of that style of like perpendicular to the hand blade, push daggers, the Indian Katar and Pata(which he made a video about a while ago.)
MY LIFE FOR AUIR!
finally a spear video! The spear is my all time favorite medieval weapon
Video Idea: Are retractable shields practical, effective or just epic?
no, no and nope.
Off the top of my head: they would propably be at least as heavy as normal shield of the same size and materials (if not heavier due to the retraction mechanism and possible need of reinforcing the structure), and the opening/closing of such shield would likely be just slightly faster than, for example, taking one off your back. Not to mention the amount of work involved in manufacturing them would inevitably be greater than ordinary shields (which could be important if you want to mass-produce).
There is also a question of structural integrity of such a shield.
On the other hand, a retractable shield could potentially be useful in some specific situations (where carrying a traditional one would be in one way or another impossible or detrimental), though i fail to imagine one right now. And forget about concealment, this would still be a large chunk of metal and/or wood attached to your arm.
Could be more practical if made of leather or something similar, though this would possibly decrease the protection it offers (never held a leather shield in my life or seen it in action).
In conclusion: look cool, but not really worth the effort.
@@wojciechkowalski8061 unless your kratos, then none of this applies
@@blacklegbeastro5295 Well yes, if you apply magic just about anything can be effective or practical. Personally I wouldn't consider it epic in any case, but that is a much more subjective matter.
@@barethor5869 but it would still be cool to have a shield that can turn into a bracelet or bracers or something like that
I can completely believe that soldiers on a long march, where the possibility of combat is never zero but is unlikely, would use some sort of sling for their spear simply so they didn't have to hold it.
Glasses gone, medieval warrior shad is back!
Day 2 of trying to get Shad to analyze Dual Wielding Techniques.
I dont think he will do it this channel is just not about technics but about arms
I think there are too many for shad to cover even if he only covers europe and I don't think he practices HIMA but i think Matt Easton of Schalagoadiatoria has a few videos about it
Dual wield spears
This video told me everything I need to know in 0:22 now, I'm just watching cause I can.
Suggestion: What weapon would be your weapon of choice in a world like the one in Horizon Zero Dawn?
The weapon needs to be effective against robotic and human enemies, and preferably doesn't damage the robots too badly to allow the salvage of their parts in my mind.
For me, it’s hammer.
@@ZinbaForLife i would say hammer aswell, piercing weapons are well out of the choices considering the thickness of the metal of the robots, you would really need knowlodge to where the weakpoints are and that's assuming you can attack it there before it trashes you. Cutting weapons are not a choice aswell, considering the robots. A maul or battlehammer for two handed could do well.
Ol' reliable: slings. Easy to carry with other weapons and ammo is easy to find
@@inconickuous547 okay, slings can have a huge force without necessarily needing much strenght from the user, still, it hardly is strong enough to cause demage to refined metal plates out of which the robots are made, too litle surface of impact too.
@@XvicvicX actually, they could cause quite a bit of damage, mostly from blunt force
I'm curious how all of this weapon carrying holds up when you're also wearing a backpack or something. A true adventurer is never without 50 potions they'll never use, 200 random monster parts, a lantern full of highly flammable oil, 10 lit torches, a change of clothes, and an entire cheese wheel.
That would probably help, actually - if you put the spear through the back of your belt because it's too long to wear on your shoulder, then putting your backpack over it would probably help hold it in place
Don't forget one's 50ft of hempen rope!
Exactly. His discussion ignores the need to carry adventuring gear. Just think of how much a modern day hiker carries when camping outdoors then consider that an adventurer would need to carry even more.
It actually holds up just fine. If your backpack goes over it, it helps hold it in place if you're basically walking all day. If your backpack goes under it, it doesn't interfere that much.