The problem of radiations was addressed with more details in the book series, particularly on how it affects childbirths in the Belt where children can develop immunity system deficiencies like Mei Meng and Katoa Merton. Pregnant women have to go to Ganymede which has a natural magnetosphere and those who can't afford to travel there stay deep inside rocky bodies like Ceres the entire gestation period to shield from radiations.
Hide inside a insulated mine asteroid to escape radiation The miners: they really should give us some radiation suits. this uranium pays enough in trade, comrade.
I don't remember if they mention it on the show, but the books make a point to say that many belters travel to Ganymede, one of the moons of Jupiter, to have children. It is about 14% earth's gravity.
Its not as clear in the show, but most belters grow up at least 1/3g. Plus, ships generate "gravity" through constant acceleration, which is what makes the Epstein Drive so important. Also in the book, Naomi spends a ton of time in the gym, more so than the not belter members of the Rocinante besides maybe Bobby. Pregnant Belters with means also travel to Gannymede while gestating because it has higher gravity than other outer planet bodies. Finally, when we do meet belters that have grown up, or lived significant amounts of their lives, in 0g, they are super messed up, like blind by 20 and dead my mid 30s.
Ganymede also has a natural magnetosphere, unlike a lot of other moons or bodies in the Belt, so it helps protect the mother and child during the gestation period from radiation.
@@seeingeyegod well, Ganymede has a surface gravity of only 0.15g. It does have a magnetosphere though which protects babies against radiation. Some of the dwarf planets and asteroids are spun up, like the space hotel from 2001 or elysium, except its a big heavy rock like Ceres or Eros. They live on the inside of the outer edge. They gave them a surface gravity of -0.3g and live upside down on the inside
@@seeingeyegod - they explain this, but you'd miss it if you weren't paying pretty close attention. Tycho Station's primary job is spinning up asteroids like Ceres using all of those little drone thruster tugs to increase the spin and therefore the centripetal force gravity. You see this in the Coriolis Effect every time someone pours a drink and it spirals from bottle to glass at nearly a 45 degree angle. This gives Ceres far more effective gravity than it's natural mass. Ganymede's big draw wasn't gravity so much as it was the magnetosphere to shield the developing fetus from radiation.
@@BreandanOCiarrai Well that doesn't make any sense cause Ganymede has really weak magnetosphere and is inside Jupiter's deadly radiation belts. It won't protect shit unless the colonies are deep underground. It would make much more sense to build a colony on Callisto which is outside Jupiter's radiation belts and has much lower radiation on the surface.
I want MORE on The Expanse! It is the best Sci-fi series I have ever seen and I have watched them all starting with Star Trek TOS during its first run as a child. I was happy to discover your video series on The Expanse and subscribed to your channel immediately. Thanks so much for giving the Expanse the attention it deserves.
7:48 - Simple solution, just build a toroidal or cylindrical section of the spaceship or space station at least 50 meters in diameter and rotate it to simulate gravity.
@@richardtrue2758 Most science focuses on zero g survivability/sustainability which makes sense since what do you do in a system failure... Also there have been some testing of tethers and other proof of concept tests. Just no need for it yet until we have much more permanent infrastucture installed and online.
They get G forces during acceleration, but only for short periods, not sure how helpful that would be. But if they pull high Gs that would be perhaps deadly to Belters.
@@rjhayward1 Considering the asteroid belt object with the highest gravity, Ceres, has only 4% of Earth's gravity, even lunar and martian gravity may be too strong for people born and raised there. That is, unless centrifugal artificial gravity is added.
@BadSocialWorker 231 did is what I've been saying dey will Neva give us "dirty belters" a seat at the inners table ,we must be willing to stand on our own two feet step 1 take the nauvoo Step 2 rename it the behemoth Step 3 missile acquisition Step 4 protomolecule acquisition
A thing that really bugged me going forward in season 3 and 4 is that the physical differences between belters and nornal humans seem to have all but disappered. I didn't see a single tall belter in any of the latter seasons, and they just look like earthers on the outside now.
Part of that is due to the fact that most of the belters seen are the sort to crew on ships regularly, and thus live and work in .5G or higher much of the time. Miller even pointed out that the extremely tall "rock-hopper" seen in the bar in Season One was a product of poor medical care not providing proper bone and muscle density treatments, thus implying most of the very tall and thin belters are uncommon due to dying off. And, being honest, part of it was also production cost reduction due to the high budget making Syfy nervous that eventually led to them canceling the show, despite it's extremely high ratings and popularity. With Bezos picking it up for Amazon that may change, but... SPOILER ALERT! > > > Almost all of the belters shown in Season 4 are previous and established characters, the OPA terrorists from Marco Inaros' crew (who we see operating on Mars quite a bit, thus indicating they are more acclimated to higher gravities and thus physically close to inners), the Belter ship crew in the new star system, or have been on New Terra/Ilus IV long enough to adapt (and those who couldn't died or had to fall back to their ship, which you don't see much of). I can't recall any of the belters on the ship the UN troops boarded being shown clearly enough to see if they were overly tall and gaunt, so I might've missed some. So at this point we haven't seen much of the belters as a whole other than those who would be from the stock that would most closely physically resemble inners. Season 5 is obviously going to focus much more on the belt, so we'll get a chance to see if the tall gaunt belter look will make it back.
The producers copped to that, they said it's because there just aren't enough mega-thin actors to cast for the many, many belter roles. It's one of the things that they simply had to let slide for production reasons.
Quick corrections: Sasake is pronounced but not spelled like que?. Also innalowda cannot be a wellwalla for turning against beltalowda, only against innalowda. It is "traitor to *my* people". Otherwise well done! Avoided the unnecessary words of others, really got the vibe.
It's my favorite sci-fi book series, but I could barely force myself through the first episode of the show. It did not mesh with me in any way, shape, or form.
@@henryfleischer404 I'm a big fan of the books as well. My take on it is that it's a great adaptation, and, given what the writers have said regarding it, it appears to be an evolution of the series rather than a strict adaptation of the books.
10:02 Yah the author of the Martian knew about the radiation issue or as he as said, "Mark Watney cancer, would have had cancer" so there is a throwaway line in the book that the habitats and suits have radiation shielding, and continues on without explaining how that bit of sci-fi magic works. Never let a few facts get in the way of a good story.
Honestly, bury the hab modules under a couple of meters of soil and they'd be far more secure against the radiation, which isn't a difficult or tech-heavy thing to do. Most of his exposure would be while outside
Loved it! I also recently got into The Expanse, and currently rewatching it because it was so good. Please make more videos about this series! I would love to hear American Ben's thoughts on the protomolecule
The water in your lungs, throat and on your eyeballs sublimating away in the vacuum would feel pretty cold. Same with all of the gases being pulled from your orifices.
That wouldn't be possible, though. The air in your lungs would either be pulled out your mouth and nose into space, or your lungs and torso would rupture. Former would be much less uncomfortable.
@@Vhalikuporamee447 while I think your first point may be true, I don't think your torso would rupture in space because of a difference of 100 Kilopascals, the human body is surprisingly resilient, even with high pressure underwater
While AFAIK vacuum transition does have the capacity to burst your lungs, it might depend on what pressure your breathing mix was at before you got exposed to vacuum. 1 atm regular air vs. 0.3 atm oxygen or something would be a big difference. Regardless, holding your breath in either case would certainly give you the bends.
From the moment i understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass that you call the temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you; But I am already saved. For the machine is immortal. Even in death I serve the Omnissiah.
@@cinnamon-skateboarding5987 Yeah, given that it costs a minimum of $3000 per kilogram to launch things into orbit, it's necessary to save as much mass as possible in order to keep the cost of the mission as low as possible.
1. Rama style rotating cylinder to provide gravity. 2. Radiation protection best achieved by putting a decent layer of some shielding between the people and the outside space. Easiest way.... make the cylinder have 2 levels with the outer one being a large water tank. That water would be an excellent shield for radiation protection. Cap both ends of the cylinder with hubs that also have large water tanks. Also the water tanks would self seal if pierced and make it easy to find on the outside. Using those as the basic space colony is the way to go. The rub is making the structure strong enough to withstand the forces of slinging all that water around. The goal should be to rotate people into and out of these spaces to other tasks. The upside for this approach you can use the cylinders to provide growing food and other things where a modest gravity is helpful. As for Mars colonies... underground. Put the water on top. Lastly people will adapt to the environment. The real question is what environment would we create to adapt to. Low g as in .3 would have a significant impact on us, but it might be viable. Microgravity on the other hand seems like it wouldn't work. I'm betting we will aim for something as close to 1g as possible within the limitations of our technology. If we ever get a real mars colony with a large population they will likely seek to keep closer to the gravity they have adapted too. No matter what we will need significant radiation shielding not just for us, but for any food growing that we setup.
Make the hull of the habitat 1.5 meter thick reinforced concrete. Metals like steel is in the form of cables which is the strongest lightest form it takes in structural engineering, and the rest is sand and minerals that are like dirt on asteroids. Built-in radiation shielding and hefty micrometeorite shell. If that's not enough, a non-spinning shield off simple sand can be built arbitrarily large around a spinning habitat. It's pure speculation that we'll be OK in low G. We have no data at all. Since the '70s NASA space settlement studies it's known that we can build things like the "Stanford Torus" habitat.
If belters lived on oneil cylinders that was parked next to the planet or area they we exploiting THEN they could always return from 'mining' and recuperate in an earthlike environment complete with gravity. That said , this sort of artificial gravity requires a fairly large cylinder to be built so it be like moving a cruise ship not like the millenium falcon. In fact, one of those Cylinders could be considered a 'nation' instead since you'd have to defend it because without it the belter would seriously be screwed.
We Just Don't Know Yet. Planets and smaller bodies don't have the microgravity that occurs between bodies; it's hard to say how we'd respond to Lunar or Martian or Ceresian gravity when we haven't been there for extended periods of time yet. Microgravity and less than 1G gravity aren't the same thing.
They live in low gravity, not zero gravity. they have constant acceleration ships for quick and efficient transportation around the system, which mimics gravity. the live within the rock of huge asteroids which are spun for rotational gravity on the interior surfaces. Large stations and Ships have spinning sections for rotational gravity. most births occur within a gravity field at ganymede, which also has a magnetic field.
Pure fantasy, in other words. We've known since the '70s NASA Ames / Stanford space settlement studies that we can take apart asteroids and small moons for materials to build space habitats for virtually Earth-like conditions. It's pure speculation to suggest that we can live long term in low Gravity. Its pure fantasy to have constant 1G acceleration ships.
This gentleman's indignant response to NASA in regards to the fact that his feces will never be shooting stars is my favorite part of this entire interview!
You absolutely should do more videos on The Expanse, but in them, you might want to actually talk about the TV show (and books), instead of spending 11 minutes talking about today's technology and NASA, and then one minute about The Expanse, there is actually a lot to analyze about the technology and Medicine in the show, rather than just saying "it's mostly correct". While it is one of the most scientifically accurate sci-fi shows ever, there is a lot that is debatable or even Incorrect, and is worth looking into, not to mention looking into the specific things that they do get right. Medlife Crisis did 2 great videos on the science of Belters and medicine in The Expanse
What surprises me is that they haven't used genetic engineering to solve the problems, there are a few areas of technology that seem to be way too low.
That is not quite right. From the Books we know, that at least Holden is to some degree genetically engineered, because he has 11 parents (actually i don't know the exact number, but he has a lot of them), and to achieve this, they must have some kind of genetic technology. Its hard to imagine, that during this process they wouldn't also make him "better". Also this technology seams to be somewhat exclusive to earthers and rich people.
There's a lot of genetic engineering in The Expanse, but there's limits to how much you can do. Clarissa Mao has implants that make her extremely strong in the short term but cause tiredness and fatigue after use. Any genetic engineering or implant would have unintended side effects
Yeah pretty much honestly I think the most likely future in space travel would be hard genetic enginnering. It would likely be a lot less expensive in the long run to slowly over time genetically engineer a human subspecies with high muscle density and constantly running hormones to fight against bone loss then it would be to do some high level terraforming or other grand projects like that. You just need to complete that once and you have a population that can produce more of itself.
the Author of the Martian, Andy Weir, admitted that radiation shielding was one of the small hand-wavey things he included for the story to not be boring or even impossible. Such as the strength of the Storm at the beginning and the effectiveness of the ion drives of their ship. He said in the near future, where the story is set, a thin radiation shielding material would have been invented.
was looking for something new and love all things about space, and stumbled upon your channel. Loved the video, man. Entertaining and informative! Liked and subbed. Oh and the Expanse is awesome and they do so well at getting their science right!
Mars has at least less than half the exposure to GCR compared to open space due to half the sky is always covered by the planet. Mars is by far more hostile than earth when discussing radiation BUT is much safer than open space. Mars is even safer than the moon in that respect due to it having a weak atmosphere. The moon has not atmo and the moon dust is VERY caustic / heavily radio active. Mars dust is more granular due to the atmo eroding it into spheres instead of it being jagged little shards of death like what is on earth's moon.
Miller points this out in the pilot episode, and the OPA guy in the bar snarks back by pointing to Miller's own malformed spine due to his having gotten "cheap bone density juice". IIRC in the book they explain that the tall, gaunt rail thin belters aren't overly common due to extremely high mortality rates, dying in their 30s usually
and deadly radiation when prolonged treatment is neede. unless you bring enough lead to make a whole treatment room and that would be poison. some people just cant win....
Did you not see the episode holden gets treated for extreme radiation? Apparently they have meds capable of dealing with all kinds of radiation poisoning. Making space travel much more likely.
Garret reisman was recently on Joe rogan and he spoke about how accurate the expanse was, would recommend it (made this comment before watching to 3:28 feels bad lol)
Yeah you should feel Bad If you Just skip to the comments immediatly to give your 2 Cents , why do you watch the Video at all, If it aint interesting , Just for self confirmation?
I could be wrong here but i seem to recall that krypton had a very high gravity and this is why superman was so strong and could fly. ha, don't mind me just brainstorming.. but it could make for an interesting video/discussion... if a person born on a high gravity planet came to earth.. would they be super human?
High gravity in Krypton and a different biology that allows them to absorb solar radiation gives Superman and other kryptonians their powers. But mostly that
In a roundabout way, yes. Look at how astronauts moved about on the moon. If a person that still possessed the same genetic characteristics of us modern-day humans was born on, or at least spent a good amount of time on an exo-planet or other celestial body that had a gravitational pull stronger than Earth's, came to Earth, they would be comparatively stronger and faster than a human who had been on Earth their entire lives, excluding individuals who underwent specialized training in simulated, harsher conditions. But, the difference in physical capability wouldn't be so immense that it looked like it was ripped from the pages of a superhero comic because such an environment would need to still be within a certain margin to allow humans to survive there indefinitely. Moreover, some people tend to overlook that, if the hypothetical individual who came from a "high-gravity" environment were to remain on Earth for a prolonged or indefinite period of time, their entire physiology would adapt to the comparatively lower levels of stress the planet placed on them. They'd lose whatever physical advantage they once had. The same principle applies for humans born on Earth who went to any environment with a lower gravity than Earth's.
However, if you were referring to humans who had colonized another planet or celestial body and, over time, had evolved to be better suited for whatever alien environment they settled into, then them coming back to Earth for extended periods of time would probably be even more detrimental to their health because their physical requirements are fundamentally different. But, I can't honestly speak on this hypothetical too much because there are to many unknown variables and guesswork involved, both in regards to the types of pressures the different environment would place on these colonists and how the human body would/could adapt to them.
I don’t know why you didn’t point out the coolest part about Scott Kelly’s excellent adventure being so important-they had a control of sorts with his twin brother who is also an astronaut but was on earth for that same year! Medlife Crisis made a couple videos about The Expanse which are excellent. He’s a snarky nerdy british doctor so he’s got a few bona fixes 😉
"The show's writers"?! Um, the books' writers who are working very closely with the show's producers and researched every aspect of this 'world' for a very long time before they gave up on the idea of writing an MMORPG and just do a series of novels. I'm skeptical that we can ever live long-term on Mars. Not only the pervasive cosmic radiation you mention but the gravity is just not strong enough for long-term human health. I think we'd be better off trying to colonize Venus, whose gravity is almost the same as ours. The atmosphere is crazy deadly, but at a mile up the air pressure is the same as sea-level on Earth and nitrogen and oxygen are lifting gasses in that oppressive atmosphere. Floating cities would be easy. You just need a breathing suit to go outside. In The Expanse there was a scandalously fraud-ridden land-rush for 'floating cities' that kept colonization tied up in the courts for years because the writers had other ideas of how to use Venus. Also they have lots of 'future' drugs to help humans acclimate to low gravity and to cure cancer just like the 'juice' that is automatically injected into them so they can handle high Gs.
It is possible to terraform mars. I have seen a few papers on the ways to do it. But they would all take at least decades and trillions of dollars. More realistically over a century of work and technology we just dont have yet but that we know is 'doable'. From what im told most of it comes down to materials. we need a better material like carbon nano tubes to survive some of the stuff we need to b able to do like space elevators and we need a better way to radiation shield until we can do long term terraforming(which we even know how to do now but it is such a bad idea on earth that no one would bother)
@@BOYVIRGO666 Might sound crazy but the quickest way I've heard of to adjust Mars atmosphere would be a large scale nuclear strike on the planet, especially around the ice caps. Though that doesn't solve other problems and has problems of its own.
I don't trust the Belters, and when in doubt... Exterminatus. This was very interesting. If humans ever colonise the other planets we'll all look very different across the solar system within just a few generation. So yeah... Exterminatus.
I just finished watching the Expanse I LOVE IT SO DAMN MUCH! it's amazing, and even though there is a lot of stuff that they have to bend and ignore in order to make the show happen, the amount of detail and scientific accuracy that they portray is so astonishing I can forgive the small things that aren't possible.
Short answer: no , long answer: no however with some tech advances might be possible. You need artificial or real gravity. Short term is okay. Longer than about six months is unhealthy. Round trip to Mars with current rocket engines is a year or two. Staying on mars long term will require radiation shielding and construction strong enough to withstand tornado force winds and asteroid strikes. Mars gravity is only about .60 Earth gravity. This may or may not be enough gravity for longer term habitation on Mars. More study of the health effects if low gravity environments is needed.
Of course, the information given in the video relates directly to someone who has a short time in space (less than a year). The Martians and Belters have been there for around 100 years, roughly 4 or 5 generations. Add to that the early Belters were given faulty or substandard equipment (the reason for the tattoos). This does not even include those of the Luna base. If the Belters came from those on Luna, then they would have at least another generation of space-based living.
Oh, one more point. Zero G causes nausea early on, eventually you'll get used to it, we've known this since Apollo program. In the books the Belters are all growing bathtub cannabis, and cannabis is a great anti nausea treatment, probably not an accident.
The thing is we have a fairly good idea of all the negative effects of zero g on the human body, however we really don't know if these effects are caused by zero g or just lower than earth g. The only time we've had people spend any real time in micro gravity is the Apollo missions, where the longest time spent on the moon was 75 hours, a little over 3 days. This is the whole reason behind the Artemis mission which is currently in development, this is the new mission to set up a moon base, which is partnered with a bunch of commercial enterprises, such as SpaceX. If a base is set up we can have people spend days or even months in micro gravity. The hope is that many of the harmful effects of zero g are remedied by having at least a little gravity. For example blood won't spread out through your body if there is still some gravity pulling it down. It's also worth noting that in The Expanse, most belters live in low gravity but no zero gravity, the one dude they showed specifically was mentioned as having spent a lot of time on ships and floating around in zero g. Also due to the development of the Epstein Drive, in The Expanse, vacuum capable rocket engines are very efficient, this allows them to be constantly accelerating or decelerating while traveling in space, and thus they can produce either low, or even earth like, gravity during a voyage. The physics are completely correct on this, we just don't have engines efficient enough to really do this.
The ships in the Expanse accelerate continuously at approximately 1 G and the decks are oriented perpendicular to the drive engine so as the ship it accelerating, and decelerating at approximately 1 G the spacefarers would be exposed to some manner of gravity with some regulatory. The space stations also rotate and the centrifugal force could also simulate gravity. However, if Belters are spending extended periods in deep space at certain locations (for example mining an asteroid) or if they don’t have ships that can accelerate to 1 G, then they would be more reliant on future medicines to live something close to normal human lifespans.
Great video! Keep up the good work .On the aforementioned problems,I'm sure technology can solve those problems,i.e. Nanotech to protect the body from"alien" pathogens!
Humans will eventually evolve for space given time and the development of artificial gravity, lack of gravity is the least of the problems faced in space. Cosmic radiation and solar wind are more of a challenge to survival
I feel the same people who say things like we cannot explore or survive off earth are the same people ages ago who thought the world flat. Limited minds.
you do realize that 90% of the ships in The Expanse can generate Earth-like gravity right? although yes, some belters do go out and mine the asteroid belt, hence the name "belters," many don't and spend the majority of their lives in Earth-like gravity on their ships, helps to watch the entire show before doing a video about the show lol
Pretty sure he knows this. And no Belter spends their life in Earth-like gravity. Standard gravity for ships, including Earth ships, is 0.3G because of efficiency reasons. Ceres is spun up to 0.3G as well. The only ships that go 1G as a matter of principle are Martian ships, in order to train their soldiers to be on par with UN Marines should they ever have to invade Earth, and we see in the show when Bobby and the other Martians go to Earth that simulated 1G for periods of time doesn't quite cut the mustard compared to growing up in it, as all of them feel like shit when they actually get there. James SA Corey thought all of this through before they decided to make Belters and Martians tall and skinny, so it all adds up.
Didn’t the expanse have a cancer and radiation poisoning cure? Like in the first season one of the main characters get a Lethal dose of radiation and pops a pill and he is fine, right?
@@zazugee I'd call that fine. I'd trade sterility for health any day of the week. Worrying about death is annoying :( Not having kids is easy ;D Also there's a lot of belter kids out there looking for parents.
@@beaconofwierd1883 You can also make kids out of 8 parents' genetics in The Expanse so I doubt he's actually sterile. He couldn't have a baby through traditional sex, but they can probably still produce babies with his genetic material if he wanted them to. They think you can make sperm out of bone marrow stem cells, for example.
We haven't experimented how gestation works out in zero gravity, or how someone who grows from baby to adult in zero gravity will grow up and turn out. I presume the outcome would be quite different from an Earth gravity full-grown going to zero gravity. Oh. Turns out that mouse embryos fail to develop in zero gravity. Belters having babies sounds like a challenge then.
I know this is a bit late but in theory wouldnt humans that were raised on a planet or moon with heavier gravity thus be far shorter and more stocky humans or would human biology just not allow that?
We know how to spin things, just building something big enough to spin is too expensive at the moment. Search TH-cam for Issac Author and SFIA. He did a whole thing on orbital habitats.
The problem of radiations was addressed with more details in the book series, particularly on how it affects childbirths in the Belt where children can develop immunity system deficiencies like Mei Meng and Katoa Merton. Pregnant women have to go to Ganymede which has a natural magnetosphere and those who can't afford to travel there stay deep inside rocky bodies like Ceres the entire gestation period to shield from radiations.
Hide inside a insulated mine asteroid to escape radiation
The miners: they really should give us some radiation suits. this uranium pays enough in trade, comrade.
Ganymede's natural magnetosphere is not strong enough to protect people from Jupiter's deadly radiation.
An Inyalowda like you can't understand the struggles of da belt sasakei. Just kidding great video guys
RISE UP BELTALOWDA! OH PEE AY! OH PEE AY!
Remember the Canterbury
Pashame fang, ee sasa bretna. Me love to take sut fo kuhaku on gangbanba ke. Me no care fo radiation of kuhaku sasa
Wat you guys saying like speak english I don't speak Italian
Earth must come first!
I don't remember if they mention it on the show, but the books make a point to say that many belters travel to Ganymede, one of the moons of Jupiter, to have children. It is about 14% earth's gravity.
They talk about it in one scene. I think it was Prax.
Its not as clear in the show, but most belters grow up at least 1/3g. Plus, ships generate "gravity" through constant acceleration, which is what makes the Epstein Drive so important. Also in the book, Naomi spends a ton of time in the gym, more so than the not belter members of the Rocinante besides maybe Bobby. Pregnant Belters with means also travel to Gannymede while gestating because it has higher gravity than other outer planet bodies. Finally, when we do meet belters that have grown up, or lived significant amounts of their lives, in 0g, they are super messed up, like blind by 20 and dead my mid 30s.
Ganymede also has a natural magnetosphere, unlike a lot of other moons or bodies in the Belt, so it helps protect the mother and child during the gestation period from radiation.
how do they have 1/3rd gravity when none of the asteroids have anywhere near that high a natural gravity and are also not constantly under thrust?
@@seeingeyegod well, Ganymede has a surface gravity of only 0.15g. It does have a magnetosphere though which protects babies against radiation. Some of the dwarf planets and asteroids are spun up, like the space hotel from 2001 or elysium, except its a big heavy rock like Ceres or Eros. They live on the inside of the outer edge. They gave them a surface gravity of -0.3g and live upside down on the inside
@@seeingeyegod - they explain this, but you'd miss it if you weren't paying pretty close attention. Tycho Station's primary job is spinning up asteroids like Ceres using all of those little drone thruster tugs to increase the spin and therefore the centripetal force gravity. You see this in the Coriolis Effect every time someone pours a drink and it spirals from bottle to glass at nearly a 45 degree angle. This gives Ceres far more effective gravity than it's natural mass. Ganymede's big draw wasn't gravity so much as it was the magnetosphere to shield the developing fetus from radiation.
@@BreandanOCiarrai Well that doesn't make any sense cause Ganymede has really weak magnetosphere and is inside Jupiter's deadly radiation belts. It won't protect shit unless the colonies are deep underground. It would make much more sense to build a colony on Callisto which is outside Jupiter's radiation belts and has much lower radiation on the surface.
We want more of The Expanse. I want more of The Expanse
It's coming but we have to Wait one year
Behold 40 years of Mobile Suit Gundam
I want so many seasons of it.
God loves the Expanse, especially Belters
I want MORE on The Expanse! It is the best Sci-fi series I have ever seen and I have watched them all starting with Star Trek TOS during its first run as a child. I was happy to discover your video series on The Expanse and subscribed to your channel immediately. Thanks so much for giving the Expanse the attention it deserves.
7:48 - Simple solution, just build a toroidal or cylindrical section of the spaceship or space station at least 50 meters in diameter and rotate it to simulate gravity.
just like Babylon 5 im surprised we havent done it yet would make working in space easy
@@richardtrue2758 Most science focuses on zero g survivability/sustainability which makes sense since what do you do in a system failure...
Also there have been some testing of tethers and other proof of concept tests. Just no need for it yet until we have much more permanent infrastucture installed and online.
There's no real data to prove that would work. Not at the scale we see in scifi
They get G forces during acceleration, but only for short periods, not sure how helpful that would be. But if they pull high Gs that would be perhaps deadly to Belters.
@@rjhayward1 Considering the asteroid belt object with the highest gravity, Ceres, has only 4% of Earth's gravity, even lunar and martian gravity may be too strong for people born and raised there. That is, unless centrifugal artificial gravity is added.
Great to see “The Expanse” finally getting covered by you guys. ❤️
Pfft, all Earthers are the same. To them, we belters are just animals. This is why we need the OPA.
Sassakkai bruda
@BadSocialWorker 231 did is what I've been saying dey will Neva give us "dirty belters" a seat at the inners table ,we must be willing to stand on our own two feet
step 1 take the nauvoo
Step 2 rename it the behemoth
Step 3 missile acquisition
Step 4 protomolecule acquisition
@@speakeroftheassembly3680 Aye, Sassakkai!
Belters are filthy mutants
@@caedes4367 Shut up virgin!!!!
A thing that really bugged me going forward in season 3 and 4 is that the physical differences between belters and nornal humans seem to have all but disappered. I didn't see a single tall belter in any of the latter seasons, and they just look like earthers on the outside now.
Yeah it’s unfortunate but kind of understandable. It probably isn’t that easy to find that many “tall” actors for the entirety of a series.
Probably to reduce production costs. I'm fine with it as long as they keep production values high in regards to sets and space ships.
Part of that is due to the fact that most of the belters seen are the sort to crew on ships regularly, and thus live and work in .5G or higher much of the time. Miller even pointed out that the extremely tall "rock-hopper" seen in the bar in Season One was a product of poor medical care not providing proper bone and muscle density treatments, thus implying most of the very tall and thin belters are uncommon due to dying off. And, being honest, part of it was also production cost reduction due to the high budget making Syfy nervous that eventually led to them canceling the show, despite it's extremely high ratings and popularity. With Bezos picking it up for Amazon that may change, but... SPOILER ALERT!
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Almost all of the belters shown in Season 4 are previous and established characters, the OPA terrorists from Marco Inaros' crew (who we see operating on Mars quite a bit, thus indicating they are more acclimated to higher gravities and thus physically close to inners), the Belter ship crew in the new star system, or have been on New Terra/Ilus IV long enough to adapt (and those who couldn't died or had to fall back to their ship, which you don't see much of). I can't recall any of the belters on the ship the UN troops boarded being shown clearly enough to see if they were overly tall and gaunt, so I might've missed some. So at this point we haven't seen much of the belters as a whole other than those who would be from the stock that would most closely physically resemble inners. Season 5 is obviously going to focus much more on the belt, so we'll get a chance to see if the tall gaunt belter look will make it back.
The producers copped to that, they said it's because there just aren't enough mega-thin actors to cast for the many, many belter roles. It's one of the things that they simply had to let slide for production reasons.
It's probably because all actors in the show are from Earth.
I'm happy to see that Chad Kroeger has a new gig after Nickleback. :)
_"You either die a Belter or you live long enough to see yourself become a Browncoat."_
*- Captain Nathaniel Pike, Battlestar Galactica*
the term belter has never been in BSG just finished watching it on blu ray. If so what episode ? Maybe i missed it ill have to check it out
@@richardtrue2758 season 8, episode 6, _The Long Night_
I see what you did here, LOL
Ok right what ever is this some kind of nerd joke
Just asking a question you sound like a smartass that's not as clever as you think . You should try getting laid sometime you nerd
Whenever I hear "Belter" I can't help but hear it in Klaes Ashford's accent.
I hear it in Anderson Dawes' voice myself :D
Beltah
5:29 Don't they mean sh**ing stars?
Ah yes, "shiting" stars
Imagine going through years of studying and training to go to space only to find out that you gotta drink your own piss.
The expanse has been one of my favorite shows for a while, can't wait until more videos whenever those will happen!!
look at this innalowda trynya speak for da belt.. Hey, Wellwalla, you gonya get spaced pinche quick talkin like that, sasa que?
Quick corrections: Sasake is pronounced but not spelled like que?. Also innalowda cannot be a wellwalla for turning against beltalowda, only against innalowda. It is "traitor to *my* people". Otherwise well done! Avoided the unnecessary words of others, really got the vibe.
You finally got to this show!!! This is probably my favorite Sci-Fi show.
It's my favorite sci-fi book series, but I could barely force myself through the first episode of the show. It did not mesh with me in any way, shape, or form.
@@henryfleischer404 I'm a big fan of the books as well. My take on it is that it's a great adaptation, and, given what the writers have said regarding it, it appears to be an evolution of the series rather than a strict adaptation of the books.
10:02 Yah the author of the Martian knew about the radiation issue or as he as said, "Mark Watney cancer, would have had cancer" so there is a throwaway line in the book that the habitats and suits have radiation shielding, and continues on without explaining how that bit of sci-fi magic works. Never let a few facts get in the way of a good story.
Honestly, bury the hab modules under a couple of meters of soil and they'd be far more secure against the radiation, which isn't a difficult or tech-heavy thing to do. Most of his exposure would be while outside
That is, in fact, the one and only place where facts are just alternate options.
Loved it! I also recently got into The Expanse, and currently rewatching it because it was so good. Please make more videos about this series! I would love to hear American Ben's thoughts on the protomolecule
Give me time to catch up! Maybe we will do this. Thanks for the note.
@@GenerationFilms most definitely! Take all the time you need. Thanks for responding!
Jeff Johnson do you mean protomolecule in general, or the protomolecule hybrids
@@jeanpaulantoine1206 in general. From introduction to current in all iterations
I love the expanse it's just awesome
10/10 more expanse!
You would suffocate before you would feel cold, because there's no medium to transfer the cold to your body in a vacuum
The water in your lungs, throat and on your eyeballs sublimating away in the vacuum would feel pretty cold. Same with all of the gases being pulled from your orifices.
@@Vhalikuporamee447 That's true, although I meant if you kept your eyes and mouth shut and didn't try to breath
That wouldn't be possible, though. The air in your lungs would either be pulled out your mouth and nose into space, or your lungs and torso would rupture. Former would be much less uncomfortable.
@@Vhalikuporamee447 while I think your first point may be true, I don't think your torso would rupture in space because of a difference of 100 Kilopascals, the human body is surprisingly resilient, even with high pressure underwater
While AFAIK vacuum transition does have the capacity to burst your lungs, it might depend on what pressure your breathing mix was at before you got exposed to vacuum. 1 atm regular air vs. 0.3 atm oxygen or something would be a big difference. Regardless, holding your breath in either case would certainly give you the bends.
Guess it's time to take advice from the mechanicus and swap out that nasty ass flesh and bone with some neat metal and machinery.
The Flesh is Weeeaaaaaak....
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From the moment i understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass that you call the temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you; But I am already saved. For the machine is immortal. Even in death I serve the Omnissiah.
Praise the Omnissiah!!!
even if it is intended as a joke it is true, our bodies are not meant to live in space, only machines can do that.
9:21 - Radiation could be mitigated with thicker walls, strapping water containers to the walls, or somehow creating an artificial magnetic field.
Somehow? We already know this
We could but funding...funding never changes.
Cinnamon-Skateboarding You got that right.
@@cinnamon-skateboarding5987 Yeah, given that it costs a minimum of $3000 per kilogram to launch things into orbit, it's necessary to save as much mass as possible in order to keep the cost of the mission as low as possible.
If we just had access to magnets and electricity...
1. Rama style rotating cylinder to provide gravity.
2. Radiation protection best achieved by putting a decent layer of some shielding between the people and the outside space. Easiest way.... make the cylinder have 2 levels with the outer one being a large water tank. That water would be an excellent shield for radiation protection. Cap both ends of the cylinder with hubs that also have large water tanks. Also the water tanks would self seal if pierced and make it easy to find on the outside.
Using those as the basic space colony is the way to go. The rub is making the structure strong enough to withstand the forces of slinging all that water around. The goal should be to rotate people into and out of these spaces to other tasks. The upside for this approach you can use the cylinders to provide growing food and other things where a modest gravity is helpful.
As for Mars colonies... underground. Put the water on top.
Lastly people will adapt to the environment. The real question is what environment would we create to adapt to. Low g as in .3 would have a significant impact on us, but it might be viable. Microgravity on the other hand seems like it wouldn't work. I'm betting we will aim for something as close to 1g as possible within the limitations of our technology. If we ever get a real mars colony with a large population they will likely seek to keep closer to the gravity they have adapted too. No matter what we will need significant radiation shielding not just for us, but for any food growing that we setup.
Make the hull of the habitat 1.5 meter thick reinforced concrete. Metals like steel is in the form of cables which is the strongest lightest form it takes in structural engineering, and the rest is sand and minerals that are like dirt on asteroids. Built-in radiation shielding and hefty micrometeorite shell.
If that's not enough, a non-spinning shield off simple sand can be built arbitrarily large around a spinning habitat.
It's pure speculation that we'll be OK in low G. We have no data at all.
Since the '70s NASA space settlement studies it's known that we can build things like the "Stanford Torus" habitat.
If belters lived on oneil cylinders that was parked next to the planet or area they we exploiting THEN they could always return from 'mining' and recuperate in an earthlike environment complete with gravity. That said , this sort of artificial gravity requires a fairly large cylinder to be built so it be like moving a cruise ship not like the millenium falcon. In fact, one of those Cylinders could be considered a 'nation' instead since you'd have to defend it because without it the belter would seriously be screwed.
We Just Don't Know Yet. Planets and smaller bodies don't have the microgravity that occurs between bodies; it's hard to say how we'd respond to Lunar or Martian or Ceresian gravity when we haven't been there for extended periods of time yet. Microgravity and less than 1G gravity aren't the same thing.
They live in low gravity, not zero gravity. they have constant acceleration ships for quick and efficient transportation around the system, which mimics gravity. the live within the rock of huge asteroids which are spun for rotational gravity on the interior surfaces. Large stations and Ships have spinning sections for rotational gravity. most births occur within a gravity field at ganymede, which also has a magnetic field.
Pure fantasy, in other words.
We've known since the '70s NASA Ames / Stanford space settlement studies that we can take apart asteroids and small moons for materials to build space habitats for virtually Earth-like conditions.
It's pure speculation to suggest that we can live long term in low Gravity.
Its pure fantasy to have constant 1G acceleration ships.
This gentleman's indignant response to NASA in regards to the fact that his feces will never be shooting stars is my favorite part of this entire interview!
The best hard scfi show in the world))) Good job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You absolutely should do more videos on The Expanse, but in them, you might want to actually talk about the TV show (and books), instead of spending 11 minutes talking about today's technology and NASA, and then one minute about The Expanse, there is actually a lot to analyze about the technology and Medicine in the show, rather than just saying "it's mostly correct". While it is one of the most scientifically accurate sci-fi shows ever, there is a lot that is debatable or even Incorrect, and is worth looking into, not to mention looking into the specific things that they do get right.
Medlife Crisis did 2 great videos on the science of Belters and medicine in The Expanse
"According to the mayonaise clinic"...
Me: wait...rewind...did I hear that correctly?
What surprises me is that they haven't used genetic engineering to solve the problems, there are a few areas of technology that seem to be way too low.
That is not quite right. From the Books we know, that at least Holden is to some degree genetically engineered, because he has 11 parents (actually i don't know the exact number, but he has a lot of them), and to achieve this, they must have some kind of genetic technology. Its hard to imagine, that during this process they wouldn't also make him "better". Also this technology seams to be somewhat exclusive to earthers and rich people.
well, even with genetic engineering there is a limit, nothing can replace the good old gravity.
There's a lot of genetic engineering in The Expanse, but there's limits to how much you can do. Clarissa Mao has implants that make her extremely strong in the short term but cause tiredness and fatigue after use. Any genetic engineering or implant would have unintended side effects
@@joni1405 That doesn't sound like genetic engineering, more biotech, her genes weren't altered additional tissues were implanted.
Yeah pretty much honestly I think the most likely future in space travel would be hard genetic enginnering. It would likely be a lot less expensive in the long run to slowly over time genetically engineer a human subspecies with high muscle density and constantly running hormones to fight against bone loss then it would be to do some high level terraforming or other grand projects like that. You just need to complete that once and you have a population that can produce more of itself.
The Martian relies on a futuristic radiation shielding for suits and habitats.
Martian marines deserved to be in thee best marines in science fiction video you guys did!
WHO ARE WE?
MMC!
WHO ARE WE???
MMC!!!
Weak.
Earth is the best.
everyone knows that belter bodies go back to normal as soon as your casting department runs out of money and can't find any 7 foot tall actors.
the Author of the Martian, Andy Weir, admitted that radiation shielding was one of the small hand-wavey things he included for the story to not be boring or even impossible. Such as the strength of the Storm at the beginning and the effectiveness of the ion drives of their ship. He said in the near future, where the story is set, a thin radiation shielding material would have been invented.
Yeah I just assumed about space radiation that NASA had solved it and it was essentially like seatbelts. Ubiquitous and non important.
Pure fantasy, in other words.
I love the Expanse. If you keep making videos, I may subscribe. No promises.
🤔 Tempting.
was looking for something new and love all things about space, and stumbled upon your channel. Loved the video, man. Entertaining and informative! Liked and subbed. Oh and the Expanse is awesome and they do so well at getting their science right!
Mars has at least less than half the exposure to GCR compared to open space due to half the sky is always covered by the planet. Mars is by far more hostile than earth when discussing radiation BUT is much safer than open space. Mars is even safer than the moon in that respect due to it having a weak atmosphere. The moon has not atmo and the moon dust is VERY caustic / heavily radio active. Mars dust is more granular due to the atmo eroding it into spheres instead of it being jagged little shards of death like what is on earth's moon.
OMFG mayonnaise clinic is funniest flippin' joke. A+, well done. 10/10. Would recommend.
...umm, actually the reason they're so tall is cause they didn't take enough of a special " milk " that help compensate for bone density lost.
Miller points this out in the pilot episode, and the OPA guy in the bar snarks back by pointing to Miller's own malformed spine due to his having gotten "cheap bone density juice". IIRC in the book they explain that the tall, gaunt rail thin belters aren't overly common due to extremely high mortality rates, dying in their 30s usually
When you wish upon an astronauts feces.
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10:51 thats a war crime!
0 Gravity therapy for people with Scoliosis and other back problems.
and deadly radiation when prolonged treatment is neede. unless you bring enough lead to make a whole treatment room and that would be poison. some people just cant win....
Good stuff, I like the expanse and love your commentary. More is a good idea.
I would definitely love more Expanse videos
Did you not see the episode holden gets treated for extreme radiation? Apparently they have meds capable of dealing with all kinds of radiation poisoning. Making space travel much more likely.
Footage of Beverly Hills Ninja was the tipping point for me with this video. Nice choice! 😄
Every comment here should be shaming him for not mentioning centrifugal gravity.
he's too busy obsessing over space-pee :D
Love your videos. And love The Expance... would like to see you cover more. And would love to see more seasons of The Expance...
Garret reisman was recently on Joe rogan and he spoke about how accurate the expanse was, would recommend it (made this comment before watching to 3:28 feels bad lol)
Yeah you should feel Bad If you Just skip to the comments immediatly to give your 2 Cents , why do you watch the Video at all, If it aint interesting , Just for self confirmation?
I could be wrong here but i seem to recall that krypton had a very high gravity and this is why superman was so strong and could fly. ha, don't mind me just brainstorming.. but it could make for an interesting video/discussion... if a person born on a high gravity planet came to earth.. would they be super human?
Maybe... or they might bounce around and flail about just like we do on the moon.
High gravity in Krypton and a different biology that allows them to absorb solar radiation gives Superman and other kryptonians their powers. But mostly that
In a roundabout way, yes. Look at how astronauts moved about on the moon.
If a person that still possessed the same genetic characteristics of us modern-day humans was born on, or at least spent a good amount of time on an exo-planet or other celestial body that had a gravitational pull stronger than Earth's, came to Earth, they would be comparatively stronger and faster than a human who had been on Earth their entire lives, excluding individuals who underwent specialized training in simulated, harsher conditions. But, the difference in physical capability wouldn't be so immense that it looked like it was ripped from the pages of a superhero comic because such an environment would need to still be within a certain margin to allow humans to survive there indefinitely.
Moreover, some people tend to overlook that, if the hypothetical individual who came from a "high-gravity" environment were to remain on Earth for a prolonged or indefinite period of time, their entire physiology would adapt to the comparatively lower levels of stress the planet placed on them. They'd lose whatever physical advantage they once had.
The same principle applies for humans born on Earth who went to any environment with a lower gravity than Earth's.
However, if you were referring to humans who had colonized another planet or celestial body and, over time, had evolved to be better suited for whatever alien environment they settled into, then them coming back to Earth for extended periods of time would probably be even more detrimental to their health because their physical requirements are fundamentally different.
But, I can't honestly speak on this hypothetical too much because there are to many unknown variables and guesswork involved, both in regards to the types of pressures the different environment would place on these colonists and how the human body would/could adapt to them.
@Ralter Drake - I'm sure the Apollo astronauts floundered on the Moon is because their spacesuits were top heavy.
I don’t know why you didn’t point out the coolest part about Scott Kelly’s excellent adventure being so important-they had a control of sorts with his twin brother who is also an astronaut but was on earth for that same year!
Medlife Crisis made a couple videos about The Expanse which are excellent. He’s a snarky nerdy british doctor so he’s got a few bona fixes 😉
"The show's writers"?! Um, the books' writers who are working very closely with the show's producers and researched every aspect of this 'world' for a very long time before they gave up on the idea of writing an MMORPG and just do a series of novels.
I'm skeptical that we can ever live long-term on Mars. Not only the pervasive cosmic radiation you mention but the gravity is just not strong enough for long-term human health. I think we'd be better off trying to colonize Venus, whose gravity is almost the same as ours. The atmosphere is crazy deadly, but at a mile up the air pressure is the same as sea-level on Earth and nitrogen and oxygen are lifting gasses in that oppressive atmosphere. Floating cities would be easy. You just need a breathing suit to go outside.
In The Expanse there was a scandalously fraud-ridden land-rush for 'floating cities' that kept colonization tied up in the courts for years because the writers had other ideas of how to use Venus.
Also they have lots of 'future' drugs to help humans acclimate to low gravity and to cure cancer just like the 'juice' that is automatically injected into them so they can handle high Gs.
Can’t live on Venus, its not there anymore.
It is possible to terraform mars. I have seen a few papers on the ways to do it. But they would all take at least decades and trillions of dollars. More realistically over a century of work and technology we just dont have yet but that we know is 'doable'. From what im told most of it comes down to materials. we need a better material like carbon nano tubes to survive some of the stuff we need to b able to do like space elevators and we need a better way to radiation shield until we can do long term terraforming(which we even know how to do now but it is such a bad idea on earth that no one would bother)
@@BOYVIRGO666 Might sound crazy but the quickest way I've heard of to adjust Mars atmosphere would be a large scale nuclear strike on the planet, especially around the ice caps. Though that doesn't solve other problems and has problems of its own.
Please do more of these, the Expanse is Awesome
Well, in the early 1800's when the first steam-driven trains appeared it was thought that moving faster than 30 miles per hour would kill a person.
yes, pleas more about the expanse! it's an awesome show!
I don't trust the Belters, and when in doubt... Exterminatus.
This was very interesting. If humans ever colonise the other planets we'll all look very different across the solar system within just a few generation. So yeah... Exterminatus.
Someone knows the Humanity First Codebook well!
I just finished watching the Expanse
I LOVE IT SO DAMN MUCH!
it's amazing, and even though there is a lot of stuff that they have to bend and ignore in order to make the show happen, the amount of detail and scientific accuracy that they portray is so astonishing I can forgive the small things that aren't possible.
The books are even better, because they actually have explanations for many things that aren't explained in the series
The Expanse......
AKA....... Live Action Mobile Suit Gundam Without the Brats, Kids, Teenagers, & (Unfortunately) Mobile Suits.
Soon Belters will born the first new type, because their souls isn't weighed down by gravity
They do have power armor, fir what that is worth
@@donalny
Martian Recon Marines. Quite a nice suit.
Sieg Zion.
@@marrqi7wini54 shame they are martians
Short answer: no , long answer: no however with some tech advances might be possible. You need artificial or real gravity. Short term is okay. Longer than about six months is unhealthy. Round trip to Mars with current rocket engines is a year or two. Staying on mars long term will require radiation shielding and construction strong enough to withstand tornado force winds and asteroid strikes. Mars gravity is only about .60 Earth gravity. This may or may not be enough gravity for longer term habitation on Mars. More study of the health effects if low gravity environments is needed.
More like Short answer: No, Long answer: mmmmaybe?
I do like the expanse a lot. I am glad you guys are covering it.
Of course, the information given in the video relates directly to someone who has a short time in space (less than a year). The Martians and Belters have been there for around 100 years, roughly 4 or 5 generations. Add to that the early Belters were given faulty or substandard equipment (the reason for the tattoos). This does not even include those of the Luna base. If the Belters came from those on Luna, then they would have at least another generation of space-based living.
Oh, one more point. Zero G causes nausea early on, eventually you'll get used to it, we've known this since Apollo program. In the books the Belters are all growing bathtub cannabis, and cannabis is a great anti nausea treatment, probably not an accident.
Imagine the romantic stargazing couple wishing eternal happiness as they witness an astronauts bowl-movement as it burns up above them.
Lol crazy I just finished binging the whole series yesterday.
American Ben, you're invited to my birthday party.
The thing is we have a fairly good idea of all the negative effects of zero g on the human body, however we really don't know if these effects are caused by zero g or just lower than earth g. The only time we've had people spend any real time in micro gravity is the Apollo missions, where the longest time spent on the moon was 75 hours, a little over 3 days. This is the whole reason behind the Artemis mission which is currently in development, this is the new mission to set up a moon base, which is partnered with a bunch of commercial enterprises, such as SpaceX. If a base is set up we can have people spend days or even months in micro gravity. The hope is that many of the harmful effects of zero g are remedied by having at least a little gravity. For example blood won't spread out through your body if there is still some gravity pulling it down.
It's also worth noting that in The Expanse, most belters live in low gravity but no zero gravity, the one dude they showed specifically was mentioned as having spent a lot of time on ships and floating around in zero g. Also due to the development of the Epstein Drive, in The Expanse, vacuum capable rocket engines are very efficient, this allows them to be constantly accelerating or decelerating while traveling in space, and thus they can produce either low, or even earth like, gravity during a voyage. The physics are completely correct on this, we just don't have engines efficient enough to really do this.
The ships in the Expanse accelerate continuously at approximately 1 G and the decks are oriented perpendicular to the drive engine so as the ship it accelerating, and decelerating at approximately 1 G the spacefarers would be exposed to some manner of gravity with some regulatory. The space stations also rotate and the centrifugal force could also simulate gravity. However, if Belters are spending extended periods in deep space at certain locations (for example mining an asteroid) or if they don’t have ships that can accelerate to 1 G, then they would be more reliant on future medicines to live something close to normal human lifespans.
This is the best show ever.
Wow! Long-term zero gravity turns you into a Ramone!
Great video! Keep up the good work .On the aforementioned problems,I'm sure technology can solve those problems,i.e. Nanotech to protect the body from"alien" pathogens!
Being a Belter would really suck.
Wow 259th line of defense you’re higher than thought I was thinking low 700s 🤣
Incredibly good show and books
5:13 Ol' Ben changed his opinions on going to space really quick.
1:55
*Instant Sub*
The Emperor approves.
Humans will eventually evolve for space given time and the development of artificial gravity, lack of gravity is the least of the problems faced in space. Cosmic radiation and solar wind are more of a challenge to survival
I've never seen the expanse but the video was certainly very interesting
If you have Amazon Prime and like (hard) sci-fi it's a must watch.
A well researched essay!
I feel the same people who say things like we cannot explore or survive off earth are the same people ages ago who thought the world flat. Limited minds.
you do realize that 90% of the ships in The Expanse can generate Earth-like gravity right? although yes, some belters do go out and mine the asteroid belt, hence the name "belters," many don't and spend the majority of their lives in Earth-like gravity on their ships, helps to watch the entire show before doing a video about the show lol
Pretty sure he knows this. And no Belter spends their life in Earth-like gravity. Standard gravity for ships, including Earth ships, is 0.3G because of efficiency reasons. Ceres is spun up to 0.3G as well. The only ships that go 1G as a matter of principle are Martian ships, in order to train their soldiers to be on par with UN Marines should they ever have to invade Earth, and we see in the show when Bobby and the other Martians go to Earth that simulated 1G for periods of time doesn't quite cut the mustard compared to growing up in it, as all of them feel like shit when they actually get there.
James SA Corey thought all of this through before they decided to make Belters and Martians tall and skinny, so it all adds up.
On NASA website... "Narrated by Billy Dee Williams." Yes please.
Just rando found you this morning. I've been watching The Expanse and wanted to see vids about it. Sub'd n always upthumb. PEACE
5:48 from what movie is that? (If its a movie)
me : So its all about pee ? NASA: Aways has been...
Didn’t the expanse have a cancer and radiation poisoning cure? Like in the first season one of the main characters get a Lethal dose of radiation and pops a pill and he is fine, right?
Not exactly
He needs to take some meds almost every day, but resuming... yes, they have ant-radiation medications.
he got told that he will be sterile the rest of this life
@@zazugee I'd call that fine. I'd trade sterility for health any day of the week. Worrying about death is annoying :( Not having kids is easy ;D Also there's a lot of belter kids out there looking for parents.
@@beaconofwierd1883 You can also make kids out of 8 parents' genetics in The Expanse so I doubt he's actually sterile. He couldn't have a baby through traditional sex, but they can probably still produce babies with his genetic material if he wanted them to. They think you can make sperm out of bone marrow stem cells, for example.
the actor who plays Magnum / Diablo (Suicide squad) is in this show? didn't know that.
Belters rule,pasheng!
Me in the first minute of the video: "Ain't this basically the plot from Zone of the Enders?"
We haven't experimented how gestation works out in zero gravity, or how someone who grows from baby to adult in zero gravity will grow up and turn out. I presume the outcome would be quite different from an Earth gravity full-grown going to zero gravity. Oh. Turns out that mouse embryos fail to develop in zero gravity. Belters having babies sounds like a challenge then.
Sometimes my feces burns like a shooting star, usually after flaming hot Cheetos
I know this is a bit late but in theory wouldnt humans that were raised on a planet or moon with heavier gravity thus be far shorter and more stocky humans or would human biology just not allow that?
We need that artificial gravity ASAP. Kakkarot won’t defeat himself.
Belters might be the very VERY bottom of the barrel, but they are still better then the xeno...if just barely.
Was starting to wonder why you weren't covering The Expanse.
Oh video on The Expanse. Like.
So basically untill we develop AG fields space is not really a good place to go
We know how to spin things, just building something big enough to spin is too expensive at the moment. Search TH-cam for Issac Author and SFIA. He did a whole thing on orbital habitats.
@@brianmallis2666 you mean a O'Neil cylinder like in Babylon 5
Damon Cypher that is one example. There are a ton of other similar structures like that.
@@brianmallis2666 I know just I used that as a example but thanks for input