That was a great review Andy. Thanks! I'm an industrial electronics tech & have a piece of advice. Open up your electronic welders & plasma cutters. Get info from the cooling fans and buy spares. Check them periodically for end play and bearings. Replace them before failure. Much cheaper than transistors. Best brand is Comair-Rotron.
Excellent comparison and HF is for one offs or in a pinch for sure. Daily and reliable, stick with the proven unit can't go wrong. The HF could be a lifesaver when it is snowing and there is nothing else around. Thank you for sharing, I learned a lot.
Hypertherm #1... Miller #2 for plasma cutters... Hands Down! Take and spray the front end parts on the plasma with Nozzle Anti Spatter spray. Saves the Nozzle and shield cap
Thanks for doing this review thinking about getting one but now thinking getting one like your old one . Very good and honest u can see the difference u really do get what you pay for in quality .
always buy a name brand like miller, lincoln ,i have a therama dynamics cut master 100 cuts up to 1 inch steel, can cut 1 1/4 " shear , brought in the late 80s still working as it came out the box, you need a air line filter/dryer on it so it last longer & cuts better
I had a hypo PM 1000 and loved it. Prior to that had ESAB PLASMA don’t remember what model however was a very good machine for its size as well! Makes life a lot easier.... and the safety squints aren’t nearly required as much...lol
For me I'll keep my old one . Served me well for 24 years. I don't understand why you can't find a new one I checked with my supplier and they have 10 in stock. Oxygen Service Company, St. Paul Minnesota. Now the was two weeks ago. You can also check to see if your supplier has any rental units for sale. They are one or two years old and usually sell at a good discount. That's where my wire feed welder came from. Miller 225 amp. For $1200.
We upgraded from out old 800 to the 65 from Haun. What a world of difference. Also you’ll like the gouging function and tips for washing welds and cutting layers like removing wear liners from the mixers.
Thanks for making this video,been waiting for it before we bought one, we are allot smaller farm then yours and there is only myself and my two brothers running it as our grandfather is retired and dad is semi retired. I think for what we do the cheaper one would work for us. From watching your videos we went over our chisel plow and discs and both our seed drill and our corn planter and spent $25,000.00 in parts on all of them and that took some explaining to our parents, but $25000.00 on 4 pieces of equipment to put them in new shape is cheaper then buying even a good used one my brother Justin bought a used Steger Cougar 251 and we are in the process of restoring it . I heard they are a good tractor and why my brother wanted it i can not explain except he has always wanted one, we now have two JD tractors, a 5083 with a loader and a 7430 with frt PTO and three point hitch, two Case tractors a Puma 165 and a 185 and reason we bought them was Deere couldn't even come close to matching their price and that was with a new two year old one they had sitting on their lots and so far to me Case is just as good or maybe even better then the Deer's.. We also have a Massey Ferguson 165 whichwas the tractor i learned on and recently got a Kubota track skid steer. We farm 1000 acres in southern Ontario and have black Angus beef cattle. Keep up the good videos on your repairs.
Interesting to see operation on voltage difference. I've been considering a 110V for my hobby and small shop. Very well done. You can be my shop teacher any day 👍
That was interesting to see . We use a few cheap cutters on our service trucks that cut up to 35mm without any real holdback . I am sure they were under 1000€ . I believe they are made in Poland . Handy to have where the acetylene torch is too brutal .
I love my harbor freight machine on 120 for doing body panels on my project vehicles floorpans trunk pans it cuts so cool you can go right to tacing the panels in
We have the hypertherm pm65 with the 50’ torch. Been worth the price of admission. For the occasional user I am sure the titanium would be fine as long as you know it’s limit. Good to know about their extended warranty
I just bought a Jack&Dave Plasma Cutter CUT50D Real 50 Amps 110V/220V Dual Voltage DC Inverter IGBT Non-Touch Pilot Arc Cutting Machine Clean Cut which another guy I work with bought and it came labeled as a Cut 50 w/o the Df for only $182 on Amazon. Will let you know if it was worth the money or not. One guy on Amazon wrote that he was Cutting 3/16 & setting power at 30A and air at 80 psi and great results cutting 1" holes.
Thanks for the review, Andy. Their sure is a lot of things breaking down. You know it doesn’t make a bit of difference about what you buy, you can always count on one thing and that is it’s going to fail on you when you need it. You then get to enjoy the privilege of throwing it in the garbage or the scrap bin. This gives you the opportunity to rebuy and start the cycle all over again. You also can count on that the replacement is going to cost a whole lot more than the old one did. That’s just the way it is. Be careful and stay safe. 😀
It was interesting watching you using different type of tips. Nice little unit though. Great illustration Andy!! Keep the videos coming. Catchya at the next one. Stay safe!!
I never was a fan of Harbor freight until I got the 1 inch Earth quake impact now ive kinda changed my mind a bit. Yes some people do listen to what you say! 👍👍👍
I found the video very informative and if I were in the market for a 1 off unit I wasn't going to use much. The small one would be great. Thanks again for the comparison video
Thanks for the review. I was looking to get a plasma cutter this year and I thinking about trying the cheaper one but I believe we will drop the money and get a better one.
Hi thanks for the video. The HF to me is just a consumer model something I wouldn't buy after listening to your review. I have found that Princess Auto good place to get somethings but they do buy alot of over stock and once there sold out cant get. Thanks again your time entertainment for us. Have a great day
Many product reviewers conceal the reason you shouldn't buy the product. I would trust you 100% to not sugar coat (your words) anything. Thanks Andy. PS: I still laughing at the New Year's Day fry-up
Thanks Andy. Appreciate your time reviewing this H F plasma cutter. Lot's of pro's and con's about the extended warranty. That would be a tough choice. 😊👍
The newer one worked better on the 220, 110 seemed like more heat was transferred to the piece being cut and you had some warping going on. The pro is it speeds cutting/production, the con is you can't use it to apply heat.
It’s been my experience that if you look in the back of the manual you get with some HF products it will show if replacement parts are available. I haven’t brought any big HF units such as a plasma cutter, but the angle grinders, bench grinders etc. do have some replacement parts available. HF seems to be offering better quality products in some of their tool lines.
Pretty much how I thought it'd perform. This line of their tools is great for a hobbyist or something in a pinch. I just reviewed their Titanium 125 welder and came to the same kind of conclusions.
Still waiting for my 45so to come in ,there backordered due to the fact that hyperthem is waiting on ribbon cables ,April may is how long to get one for the cnc tables
Thanks Andy, seems like these 2 are as different as night and day. The dang restocking fee and those warranty fees are life sucking. Anything to get money out of you. Everything seems like it's made to break today. Thanks
3 year warranty on the Hypertherm. The 45XP is a 5/8 rated(20" per minute) and will sever 1-1/8". The 45XP will also gouge and will accept flushcut consumables. If you can ever demo one you will be impressed. The HF torch is likely a copy of a Trafimet. Consumables would likely be best sourced from HF. Now I see why I thought you got a new machine, you have replaced the 800s torch with a Duramax replacement torch.
Like everything you buy, you get what you pay for. I think if you had small projects, the Harbor Freight is probably fine, but with big jobs and needing one almost every day. spending a lot more is your best bet.
That titanium unit might b handy just to keep in ur service truck. But as for consumables check Amazon u should b able to get them on there bigger packs and much cheaper 😉
From the information you supplied in this video I reckon you'll be returning the titanium 45 cutter and purchasing the more expensive but better hypertherm!
Andy, I am actually a sales representative for the welding supplier from where you get your gas from. And unfortunately Hypertherm is seeing shipping delays. Hopefully this gets better soon. You can't go wrong with either the 45xp or the 65. Have a good one!!!! Hypertherm warranty, 3years on power source. 1 year on torch. The HF gun looks very similar to thermal dynamics consumables, not saying they are a exact match though!
Hi Andy get a new hypotherm and stick the green one in the army truck for on site repairs you can't beat the proper gear especially for the amount your doing
Good review, honestly that harbor freight unit isn’t terrible. Like you said if it’s someone using it heavy in a shop daily its probably not the best route. My brother has a Hypertherm 65 he wants $1,500 bucks for I was thinking about. I have one older Hypertherm that is starting to act flaky as well, looking for a good place to send it out for repair. That’s a good point about parts not being available with the older ones though.
Hi Andy thanks for video man I just purchased this unit 45a I use it to build pig cooker and so forth works well for me so far great video again man God bless 🙌🏾
The little Titanium plasma would be worth keeping around for field repairs if your engine drive welder has a good power supply. The main reason the arc extinguished on the 1/4” cut is because your ground is on the table not the workpiece. The ‘slag’ from a plasma cut is called dross... Thanks for the review!
I hear ya! I do the same thing but have noticed it in the past. New metal mill scale and old metal oxides. It really stands out both tig welding and plasma. I was convinced after laying filler rod across the table and workpiece got cherry red one day... thanks again Andy!
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Good for the weekend warrior, not for commercial purposes.
Had my Hypertherm 45 for about 8-10 years dang good machine no complaints.
I bought Hyper Therm 30 air. Love it. Very portable and has both 220 and 115. Carry up silo and only need cord.
I got one of those as well, its awesome with the built in compressor, its so convenient! And can cut pretty thick stuff too!
ANDY I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD SHOW US HOW THEY WORKED THAT WAS A GREAT LESSON AND THANK YOU 👍👍
That was a great review Andy. Thanks! I'm an industrial electronics tech & have a piece of advice. Open up your electronic welders & plasma cutters. Get info from the cooling fans and buy spares. Check them periodically for end play and bearings. Replace them before failure. Much cheaper than transistors. Best brand is Comair-Rotron.
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Always a catch with hobo freight. Thanks for the heads up on cutting head 👍
Thank you Andy for taking the time to do the review.
Excellent comparison and HF is for one offs or in a pinch for sure. Daily and reliable, stick with the proven unit can't go wrong. The HF could be a lifesaver when it is snowing and there is nothing else around. Thank you for sharing, I learned a lot.
Hypertherm #1... Miller #2 for plasma cutters... Hands Down! Take and spray the front end parts on the plasma with Nozzle Anti Spatter spray. Saves the Nozzle and shield cap
That’s probably the most real world review I’ve seen. 👍🏻 thank you
Thanks for the update on the cutter Andy
Thanks for doing this review thinking about getting one but now thinking getting one like your old one . Very good and honest u can see the difference u really do get what you pay for in quality .
always buy a name brand like miller, lincoln ,i have a therama dynamics cut master 100 cuts up to 1 inch steel, can cut 1 1/4 " shear , brought in the late 80s still working as it came out the box, you need a air line filter/dryer on it so it last longer & cuts better
This was a great comparison, review and how-to. Thanks very much Andy. I think it's a great showcase of why you shouldn't buy off brand products.
Thanks for another education today, thanks to you Andy!! Love it. I think you like doing that as much as we like watching it lol. Never gets boring.
Hypotherm T30air. Hands down for the best for cutting up to 3/8. And you don't need a air compressor. I have one and love it!!
Your a smart man Andy still like your videos hopefully you do more
You can't beat the old stuff . 👍👍👍
I had a hypo PM 1000 and loved it.
Prior to that had ESAB PLASMA don’t remember what model however was a very good machine for its size as well!
Makes life a lot easier.... and the safety squints aren’t nearly required as much...lol
We have a miller 525 in our shop. We love it. It cuts like a dream up to half inch. Will cut up to an inch.
I’ve always wanted a plasma cutter I need to get one the older I get the less steady I get trying to cut things with the torch
For me I'll keep my old one . Served me well for 24 years. I don't understand why you can't find a new one I checked with my supplier and they have 10 in stock. Oxygen Service Company, St. Paul Minnesota. Now the was two weeks ago.
You can also check to see if your supplier has any rental units for sale. They are one or two years old and usually sell at a good discount. That's where my wire feed welder came from. Miller 225 amp. For $1200.
We upgraded from out old 800 to the 65 from Haun. What a world of difference. Also you’ll like the gouging function and tips for washing welds and cutting layers like removing wear liners from the mixers.
Thanks for making this video,been waiting for it before we bought one, we are allot smaller farm then yours and there is only myself and my two brothers running it as our grandfather is retired and dad is semi retired. I think for what we do the cheaper one would work for us. From watching your videos we went over our chisel plow and discs and both our seed drill and our corn planter and spent $25,000.00 in parts on all of them and that took some explaining to our parents, but $25000.00 on 4 pieces of equipment to put them in new shape is cheaper then buying even a good used one my brother Justin bought a used Steger Cougar 251 and we are in the process of restoring it . I heard they are a good tractor and why my brother wanted it i can not explain except he has always wanted one, we now have two JD tractors, a 5083 with a loader and a 7430 with frt PTO and three point hitch, two Case tractors a Puma 165 and a 185 and reason we bought them was Deere couldn't even come close to matching their price and that was with a new two year old one they had sitting on their lots and so far to me Case is just as good or maybe even better then the Deer's.. We also have a Massey Ferguson 165 whichwas the tractor i learned on and recently got a Kubota track skid steer. We farm 1000 acres in southern Ontario and have black Angus beef cattle. Keep up the good videos on your repairs.
Interesting to see operation on voltage difference. I've been considering a 110V for my hobby and small shop. Very well done. You can be my shop teacher any day 👍
I was looking at the titanium welder as well as this plasma cutter for my purposes this will work great thanks for the in-depth review
That was interesting to see . We use a few cheap cutters on our service trucks that cut up to 35mm without any real holdback . I am sure they were under 1000€ . I believe they are made in Poland . Handy to have where the acetylene torch is too brutal .
I love my harbor freight machine on 120 for doing body panels on my project vehicles floorpans trunk pans it cuts so cool you can go right to tacing the panels in
We have the hypertherm pm65 with the 50’ torch. Been worth the price of admission. For the occasional user I am sure the titanium would be fine as long as you know it’s limit. Good to know about their extended warranty
I just bought a Jack&Dave Plasma Cutter CUT50D Real 50 Amps 110V/220V Dual Voltage DC Inverter IGBT Non-Touch Pilot Arc Cutting Machine Clean Cut which another guy I work with bought and it came labeled as a Cut 50 w/o the Df for only $182 on Amazon.
Will let you know if it was worth the money or not.
One guy on Amazon wrote that he was Cutting 3/16 & setting power at 30A and air at 80 psi and great results cutting 1" holes.
Thanks for the review, Andy.
Their sure is a lot of things breaking down. You know it doesn’t make a bit of difference about what you buy, you can always count on one thing and that is it’s going to fail on you when you need it.
You then get to enjoy the privilege of throwing it in the garbage or the scrap bin. This gives you the opportunity to rebuy and start the cycle all over again.
You also can count on that the replacement is going to cost a whole lot more than the old one did.
That’s just the way it is.
Be careful and stay safe. 😀
Interesting Andy as I’m in the market for new one 👍👍
Thanks Andy Never too old to Learn👍🇺🇸
Thanks Andy. You make everything interesting. Keep them coming.
It was interesting watching you using different type of tips. Nice little unit though. Great illustration Andy!! Keep the videos coming. Catchya at the next one. Stay safe!!
I never was a fan of Harbor freight until I got the 1 inch Earth quake impact now ive kinda changed my mind a bit. Yes some people do listen to what you say! 👍👍👍
lol
I found the video very informative and if I were in the market for a 1 off unit I wasn't going to use much. The small one would be great. Thanks again for the comparison video
Thanks for the review. I was looking to get a plasma cutter this year and I thinking about trying the cheaper one but I believe we will drop the money and get a better one.
I actually think the old one done better than new one too bad you can't find parts for the old one great video
Hi thanks for the video. The HF to me is just a consumer model something I wouldn't buy after listening to your review. I have found that Princess Auto good place to get somethings but they do buy alot of over stock and once there sold out cant get. Thanks again your time entertainment for us. Have a great day
Yes andy that was a good review i liked the way u went through want showed us and was honest about telling us thanks
Informative, thanks for taking the time Andy, appreciate your effort. Hope yer havin a great day.
Andy, I have the Hypertherm 45 and love it. Go for the Hypertherm 60 and you won't regret it.
Many product reviewers conceal the reason you shouldn't buy the product. I would trust you 100% to not sugar coat (your words) anything. Thanks Andy.
PS: I still laughing at the New Year's Day fry-up
Thanks Andy. Appreciate your time reviewing this H F plasma cutter.
Lot's of pro's and con's about the extended warranty. That would be a tough choice.
😊👍
Very good information about the cutter thanks for the review on the cutter keep up the great work
Thanks for the review. I am in the market for one and for a weekend warrior the titanium will work ok is what I gather your saying.
Yes it will do you fine
Great review! I was wondering how HF stuff faired against better brand name cutters Thanks Andy!
Great review. Thanks! You are Adam Carolla's voice twin btw 😁
andy i feel i am in a mechanic class and am learning from the master when i watch your videos and never want to graduate
Great Video Andy! I really appreciate your honesty in rating the plasma cutters!
Nice demo Andy. Always wondered how those worked.
The newer one worked better on the 220, 110 seemed like more heat was transferred to the piece being cut and you had some warping going on. The pro is it speeds cutting/production, the con is you can't use it to apply heat.
I have the same unit and the "U shape thing" you refer to will swivel so you can turn it as needed.
Yes
I have two hyperthems a 45 and a 60 I love them Some of those harbor freight items have no replacement parts
It’s been my experience that if you look in the back of the manual you get with some HF products it will show if replacement parts are available. I haven’t brought any big HF units such as a plasma cutter, but the angle grinders, bench grinders etc. do have some replacement parts available.
HF seems to be offering better quality products in some of their tool lines.
Pretty much how I thought it'd perform. This line of their tools is great for a hobbyist or something in a pinch. I just reviewed their Titanium 125 welder and came to the same kind of conclusions.
Hello from Ontario, Canada! Love your videos! Keep up the great work!
G'day Andy. Great review Thanks. See you on the next one.
Excellent video. When time warrants for you I would love to see you do a welding video. Could use some welding tips
Would be fun with a farm story. How long your farm has been in the family and what you mainly do. And so on. Great videos👍👍 /SWEDEN
Still waiting for my 45so to come in ,there backordered due to the fact that hyperthem is waiting on ribbon cables ,April may is how long to get one for the cnc tables
Thanks Andy, seems like these 2 are as different as night and day. The dang restocking fee and those warranty fees are life sucking. Anything to get money out of you. Everything seems like it's made to break today. Thanks
3 year warranty on the Hypertherm. The 45XP is a 5/8 rated(20" per minute) and will sever 1-1/8". The 45XP will also gouge and will accept flushcut consumables.
If you can ever demo one you will be impressed.
The HF torch is likely a copy of a Trafimet. Consumables would likely be best sourced from HF.
Now I see why I thought you got a new machine, you have replaced the 800s torch with a Duramax replacement torch.
Another excellent video!! Looking forward to more from FFF!
Like everything you buy, you get what you pay for. I think if you had small projects, the Harbor Freight is probably fine, but with big jobs and needing one almost every day. spending a lot more is your best bet.
Nicely done on the review, buy once cry once is the old saying. You get what you pay for, thanks for the ride along Andy 👍🍺🍺
That titanium unit might b handy just to keep in ur service truck. But as for consumables check Amazon u should b able to get them on there bigger packs and much cheaper 😉
Another great informational video. Thank you for taking the time to share with us
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and great videos
From the information you supplied in this video I reckon you'll be returning the titanium 45 cutter and purchasing the more expensive but better hypertherm!
Andy, I am actually a sales representative for the welding supplier from where you get your gas from. And unfortunately Hypertherm is seeing shipping delays. Hopefully this gets better soon. You can't go wrong with either the 45xp or the 65. Have a good one!!!!
Hypertherm warranty, 3years on power source. 1 year on torch.
The HF gun looks very similar to thermal dynamics consumables, not saying they are a exact match though!
Thanks bud you guys are great by the way
Thanks for the review. You just may have saved someone some money
Awesome video Andy, hello from North Dakota, great review love the videos
Hi Andy get a new hypotherm and stick the green one in the army truck for on site repairs you can't beat the proper gear especially for the amount your doing
very through and enough to show your better off in the long run to buy a quality unit
That little titan would be a good little unit for the service truck for doing barn gate repairs pair that with the miller welder that has 220
Good review, honestly that harbor freight unit isn’t terrible. Like you said if it’s someone using it heavy in a shop daily its probably not the best route. My brother has a Hypertherm 65 he wants $1,500 bucks for I was thinking about. I have one older Hypertherm that is starting to act flaky as well, looking for a good place to send it out for repair. That’s a good point about parts not being available with the older ones though.
$1500 is a good deal
you may buy a replacement gun on Ebay I think most of those are universal I replaced my plasma cutter head with a replacement on Ebay
Amazon sells leads that will fit the Titanium unit.
Thank you for taking time out of your already busy day dam good review
Thanks,,, good comparison.
FYI If you want to replace the torch on almost any Plasma cutter you can use any brand you like, put a Hypertherm torch on the Titanium if you like.
Hi Andy thanks for video man I just purchased this unit 45a I use it to build pig cooker and so forth works well for me so far great video again man God bless 🙌🏾
Good evening Andy hope all is well Down On The Farm
Great review thanks Andy!
A great review even though I've never used one
Great review. Try to do another review in a year. Thanks for the great videos. 👍👍
Ok Andy I know what to buy. Thanks
👍 thanks Andy!
I love this shop!
Thanks Andy great video.
Awesome video Andy
Thanks. I have hypertherm smallest one
Thanks Andy!
Great video Andy thank you.
Thank you for sharing that
Good video Andy 👍
Good info Andy.
The little Titanium plasma would be worth keeping around for field repairs if your engine drive welder has a good power supply. The main reason the arc extinguished on the 1/4” cut is because your ground is on the table not the workpiece. The ‘slag’ from a plasma cut is called dross... Thanks for the review!
Table is metal
I hear ya! I do the same thing but have noticed it in the past. New metal mill scale and old metal oxides. It really stands out both tig welding and plasma. I was convinced after laying filler rod across the table and workpiece got cherry red one day... thanks again Andy!
Old school rules💪💪