How Carthage Explored the World in Antiquity DOCUMENTARY

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  • Exploration of the World in Ancient Carthage! Get your free trial of MagellanTV here: try.magellantv.com/invicta. It's an exclusive offer for our viewers: an extended, month-long trial, FREE. MagellanTV is a new kind of streaming service run by filmmakers with 2,000+ documentaries! Check out our personal recommendation and MagellanTV’s exclusive playlists: www.magellantv.com/explore/hi...
    In this history documentary we focus on the process of exploration in Antiquity before the age of discovery. Before there was Christopher Columbus, Ferdinand Magellan or Vasco da Gama there were the famed explorers of Carthage; Hanno and Himilco the Navigators.
    We begin by discussing the process of naval navigation in antiquity. This involves an overview of the ships like triremes and methods of navigation by landmark, stars, and logbook. We then discuss what a generic expedition would have looked like. This ranged anywhere from a small handful of ships with a few hundred men to dozens of ships with tens of thousands of men aboard.
    Finally we bring to life the journey of Hanno the Navigator and Himilco the Navigator by retracing the adventures reported in both of their periplus logs.
    Stay tuned for more exciting How They Did It episodes on Ancient Carthage.
    #History
    #Documentary
    #Carthage

ความคิดเห็น • 906

  • @InvictaHistory
    @InvictaHistory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    I am super exited to be talking about the overlooked explorers of antiquity! You can check out the actual records of the Periplus of Hanno here: www.livius.org/articles/person/hanno-1-the-navigator/hanno-1-the-navigator-2/

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wonder. Have you made a video on the Medjay. Probably not. Your probably really busy.

    • @Fred_L.
      @Fred_L. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the link. The English translation of the text is given with parallel annotations which are super interesting.

    • @jaded1442
      @jaded1442 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome video! Very interesting topic, keep up the great content!

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@brokenbridge6316 I have actually given that a thought as a "Unit of History" episode

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@InvictaHistory---Okay. Sounds good. Hope the video is up soon.

  • @EloiFL
    @EloiFL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1033

    Carthaginians: * find gorillas *
    Gorillas: uhuhuhuaaaaaaHHHHHHREEEEE
    Carthaginians: Wanna do bussiness?

    • @marrqi7wini54
      @marrqi7wini54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      As the old saying goes,
      "Apes together strong"

    • @AlexIncarnate911
      @AlexIncarnate911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@marrqi7wini54 Did you just call Carthaginians apes?? :O

    • @miguelmontenegro3520
      @miguelmontenegro3520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Carthagineans had a Trading fever for sure. Even harder than Venice's

    • @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
      @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Carthaginians *find eskimos*
      Also carthaginians: Wanna buy some ice? A snowcone?

    • @aBerlin1945
      @aBerlin1945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      And that's how Carthage first imported bananas.

  • @pumpkin2477
    @pumpkin2477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +517

    Carthage is so massively underrated in the field of history

    • @octo1894
      @octo1894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @Ironclaw XII Rome's society was not tough as nails. For centuries afterwards Romans remained frightened of the very name Hannibal, almost like a boogeyman. The reality is, Rome simply outmatched Carthage in one thing and one thing only. Manpower. Sure, Carthage had a better framework for conducting warfare, literally inventing the combined arms model of war. With Mago's reforms, Carthage invented the Pilum equipped heavy infantry as checkboard positioned units that rendered the Phalanx obsolete. The so called 'Phalanx with joints' designed to break up turtling Greeks in Sicily and then the Falcata goes to do its bloody work. The Romans copied this and it's now called a Legion. Romans copied the Carthaginians mass production capabilities for ships by reverse engineer a captured vessel. Copied Carthage's governing systems as well. Carthage was the first republic and had a much more complex civic system than Rome. Non of this mattered. Rome could afford to raise army after army and bludgeon Carthage to death with sheer numbers alone.

    • @octo1894
      @octo1894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @Ironclaw XII That was a sad and pathetic attempt at internet smacktalk. They weren't "tough as nails", whatever the frak that means. They were normal human beings with the knowledge that they could re-enter the war with a decade when their next round of able bodied men reached puberty but their enemy could not. You can beat your chest as much as you like, call a stranger on the internet names and try desperately to prove some ancient people, who's character outside of imagination is unknown to anyone, are somehow "tough". But that's weird and childish and wrong.

    • @octo1894
      @octo1894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Ironclaw XII LMAO take your meds

    • @Crafty_Spirit
      @Crafty_Spirit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We are here to correct that 👌🏾

    • @Crafty_Spirit
      @Crafty_Spirit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @Ironclaw XII You can call them tough for not giving up, but mind that Hannibal's forces also didn't give up - and stayed for over a decade in hostile territories, short of reinforcements, while the Romans were stationed on home ground.

  • @jammy7915
    @jammy7915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +670

    Greeks: oooo past the Pillars of Hercules is nothing but sure death spooky
    Punics: sounds like i could trade there

    • @user-ct1kp8jg5n
      @user-ct1kp8jg5n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      I suspect sea monsters tales were used to conceal profitable trade routes.

    • @zeus0710
      @zeus0710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @HanselManCan the Phonecians from the Levant already had an established trade route all the way to the Tin islands in modern southern England since the Bronze age. but it was a secret route they only knew about. I believe the Carthaginians wanted to take over that trade route after all they were Phonecians too.

    • @jammy7915
      @jammy7915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @HanselManCan of course, was just writing from the common dichotomy we see of the Greek and Punic trade, exploration, and colonization, how the Punic peoples seemed to rove more widely and dynamically for the purposes of international trade primarily, whereas the Greeks did it more for finding land for colonies to feed the homeland (hence finding no use in colonies so far away from Greece until the later periods, when they started more dynamic and opportunistic trading in earnest)

    • @hannibalbarca8411
      @hannibalbarca8411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jammy7915
      *carthaginians

    • @jammy7915
      @jammy7915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@hannibalbarca8411 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punics
      Often the terms are used interchangeably, and i prefer Punic as there had to have been explorers from other cities both before and during Carthage's hegemony, and describing pre-Carthaginian explorers as Carthaginian seems misleading on the achievements of those cities and their peoples. It would be misleading to call the achievements of Latins and Etruscans as Roman even tho they were soon eclipsed by the Roman peoples, even as Latin and Roman can be used interchangeably also. Purely intellectual of a differentiation tho so to each their own

  • @Paris-xv9sj
    @Paris-xv9sj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +392

    Herodotus : * creates History *
    Also Herodotus : *THERE IS GIANT ANTS THE SIZE OF FOXES IN INDIA*

    • @Isleep-walking
      @Isleep-walking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      There still is. They are just hiding...

    • @Paris-xv9sj
      @Paris-xv9sj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@Isleep-walking I know it, this is a plot against the dwelling people who shrieked like bats in Libya...

    • @moriskurth628
      @moriskurth628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Apparently those were some sort of Himalayan Marmot, iirc. They are, very roughly, the size of foxes, and have their dens mostly underground.

    • @molybdaen11
      @molybdaen11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe they went home?

    • @obobobobobi
      @obobobobobi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They made all those voyages up just sleeping by olive tree but they did have a written language.
      Meanwhile the Vikings did all the exploring but did not have a written language so we don't know.

  • @katiecat9353
    @katiecat9353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Ancient Carthaginians: *sees gorillas*
    "Gee those sure are some hairy people."

    • @MrRedberd
      @MrRedberd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      So...we filleted a couple of their women and brought their skins home with us.

    • @lobstered_blue-lobster
      @lobstered_blue-lobster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I am surprised they didn't note how fat they were as it was one obvious trait Gurrelilas have....I gues Political Correctness existed back then as well!

  • @phillipgathright8001
    @phillipgathright8001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    "The darkness can be frightening, but it is also an invitation to those with torches." That's deep, man.

  • @benjamino.7475
    @benjamino.7475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    Hairy people, known as gorillas.. fascinating

    • @cortexavery1324
      @cortexavery1324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Who said know as gorillas ? You're interpreting the images he's showing as the truth but even he, I'm sure, would not say it is gorillas for sure.

    • @goosequillian
      @goosequillian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cortexavery1324 'I am sure for sure?' Is this Carthaginian language?

    • @buchan448
      @buchan448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL it was true though

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@cortexavery1324 But he literally did say Gorillae like did you watch the video? I'm sure that's a Greek translation but like it's still what the text said.

    • @lpcanilla92
      @lpcanilla92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@cortexavery1324 In fact, the word "gorilla" comes from this account from Hanno. When the animal was classified, they referenced Hanno's travels to name it.

  • @shawnkanevsky9799
    @shawnkanevsky9799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Remember when this was a total war channel? This is one of my favorite history channels, but it's strange knowing this was once a gaming channel.

    • @lordaragorn001
      @lordaragorn001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      i remember oakley doing those rome 2 vlogs and weekly online battles.good days.

    • @derekbradshaw9040
      @derekbradshaw9040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Dude I first found this channel when I was black out drunk, I sat near my toilet all night and watched the total war videos because I was too drunk/sick to sleep. Both the channel and I have come a long way since then and we’ve been friends since that night❤️

    • @lite4998
      @lite4998 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember! It used to be called Oakley Total War right? He made Rome II videos about using real historical tactics in multiplayer battles.

    • @user-xe7gv2cl4m
      @user-xe7gv2cl4m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lite4998
      The Phoenicians were cowards and the army of Carthage were Berbers

    • @lite4998
      @lite4998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eᑎᗩᔕ lol what compelled you to tell me this exactly? xD

  • @coffee5981
    @coffee5981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    It's so nice to learn about Carthage outside of the Punic Wars. Excellent video!

  • @lucisferre6361
    @lucisferre6361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    Got to learn a new word, "periplus" as well as an intriguing story to accompany it. Much appreciated.

    • @mdstanton1813
      @mdstanton1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Check out the periplus of the erythraen sea

    • @yannickbaroue
      @yannickbaroue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In French we have the word périple that means to navigate around.
      It also means a long trip with a lot of obstacles.

    • @mwanikimwaniki6801
      @mwanikimwaniki6801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mdstanton1813 By Ptolemy... Right?

    • @mdstanton1813
      @mdstanton1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mwanikimwaniki6801 yup!

    • @Anglomachian
      @Anglomachian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Athens: back up, noobs, OG right here.

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Carthage is so underrated by modern pop culture( film, books and video games)

    • @aymendaadaa8685
      @aymendaadaa8685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      im tunisian and i live in modern day carthage and sadly little tunisian know about the full carthagian history

    • @lordaragorn001
      @lordaragorn001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Good, lets keep it that way. don't want to see black hannibals.

    • @xenotypos
      @xenotypos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordaragorn001 Lol.

    • @xenotypos
      @xenotypos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Weren't Carthaginans simply from the Phoenician civilization ? I think the underrated ones are juste the Phoenicians in general, often ignored despite their positive influence on the Greeks.

    • @Number1Irishlad
      @Number1Irishlad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@xenotypos carthaginians were phoenician, but i think after tyre collapsed/fell from prominence, Carthage grew more than tyre ever did

  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Well if Himilco made it to Cornwall, then I suppose his mission to find the Tin Isles was a success.

    • @MegaBarnacle
      @MegaBarnacle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why

    • @elcidsnare07
      @elcidsnare07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@MegaBarnacle Because historically there was a lot of tin in Cornwall.

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was after cider

    • @condor237
      @condor237 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well yeah, they didn’t know Cornwall was a peninsula. They thought it was an island: the tin islands

  • @neathizar9743
    @neathizar9743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Just imagine being the translator for Hanno, hardly leaving your village, then these people on boats talk to you who then take you so far away neither of you know the language and look very different from you

    • @cerridianempire1653
      @cerridianempire1653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hanno: first day on the job and your doing shit
      The translator: * sad translator noises *

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't need to imagine, you can just go to a random country and find out

    • @johntitor1256
      @johntitor1256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Imagine being a translator for Hanno, and your expedition leader says you have to ask a bunch of gorillas if they're interested in trade with Carthage.

    • @2bingtim
      @2bingtim ปีที่แล้ว

      For the Celtic world languages would've been fairly close, so from Britain, down the French Atlantic & Mediterranean coast plus parts of Spain the structure & many words would be reasonably decipherable.

    • @neathizar9743
      @neathizar9743 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johntitor1256 lmfao Greetings, we have elegant pearls from our country, could you take us to your king?
      Harambe's 15th great grandfather "Grunt, *sniff, hoo hoo huh"

  • @SirWilliamKidney
    @SirWilliamKidney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    "And even related generas, like science and true crime, which are historical in nature." Huh, I've heard like six different youtubers repeat this phrase. Let people put in in their own words, Magellan!

    • @user-xe7gv2cl4m
      @user-xe7gv2cl4m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Phoenicians were cowards and the army of Carthage were Berbers

  • @connorgolden4
    @connorgolden4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Last time I was this early bronze was still the best.

    • @AbrahamLincoln4
      @AbrahamLincoln4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was a little late. I was still running for President in 1860. Few thousand years off sadly.

    • @danielchequer5842
      @danielchequer5842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm a bit late, now iron is trending

    • @termeownator
      @termeownator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      While bronze may be terribly clever, stone was all my old dad needed to feed a family of as many hands as I have and then more than that

    • @user-xe7gv2cl4m
      @user-xe7gv2cl4m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@termeownator
      The Phoenicians were cowards and the army of Carthage were Berbers

    • @termeownator
      @termeownator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-xe7gv2cl4m okay

  • @cristianvillanueva8782
    @cristianvillanueva8782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I for one would love to see an animated series of Hanno exploring the ancient world.

    • @chaun9521
      @chaun9521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What about an open world game

    • @igorignaz5319
      @igorignaz5319 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chaun9521 haha that would be a huuge open world to cover :D

    • @HighlightArtCenter
      @HighlightArtCenter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @chaun9521 That would be really entertaining!

    • @agora5230
      @agora5230 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking the exact same thing

  • @generalRAAM95
    @generalRAAM95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    I like very much these Carthaginian videos. It's an underrated culture. If it wasn't Rome, I'm sure a world under Carthage wouldn't be bad at all either.

    • @mrlovemaker5715
      @mrlovemaker5715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I feel the same way! The fact that these guys were settling/colonizing distant far off lands is just so cool.

    • @joshuakevinserdan9331
      @joshuakevinserdan9331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Carthage would have to change if it was to eat the mediterranean up for lunch. I really can't imagine Carthaginians would even do it when being a good general didn't mean advancement of political life.
      Roman generals did it because they accidentally created a cycle. A cycle of soldiers needing land for their retirement -> needing soldiers to have more land.

    • @alphagamer9505
      @alphagamer9505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      The Punic Wars may be one of the most important wars in history for that reason,it changed the face of the western Mediterranean and of Europe,if Carthage won,Europe would be celtic instead of latin and more german than today

    • @RobinTheBot
      @RobinTheBot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@alphagamer9505 There would also be a lot more people without all that genocide.

    • @alphagamer9505
      @alphagamer9505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@RobinTheBot we cant know that

  • @cengiztaner4754
    @cengiztaner4754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I can never hear enough of Carthage. Amazing video.

  • @frommy725
    @frommy725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Hey Invicta! I would love to know or see one of your videos on how armies communicated during battles? :) how they carried out tactics etc. huge fan :)

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      That's a pretty good idea. I'll see if we can cook something up for that.

    • @frommy725
      @frommy725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Invicta legend! Look forward to it :)

    • @odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347
      @odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Invicta Awesome! Will be waiting for it!

    • @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
      @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How Napoleon did it: "Advance towards the sound of gunfire."

    • @joshuakevinserdan9331
      @joshuakevinserdan9331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@frommy725 Damn man, great suggestion Dave!
      Hope Invicta does it... I'm kinda excited on how communication of armies changed between generals, armies, and time.

  • @Verteidiger99
    @Verteidiger99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    dat Runescape tin ore rock at 11:25 LMAO I love you

  • @gameboyhotline3712
    @gameboyhotline3712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    They mistaken gorillas for people im dead 💀

    • @billparker244
      @billparker244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      But did they? "Hairy people" could be people with long hair and men with beards. Why mention their sex? Gorillas don't have prominent sex features. They all look the same. Makes me wonder if it wasn't just an extremely savage and feral group they encountered.

    • @jawharz9759
      @jawharz9759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@billparker244 but the interpreters called them gorillas

    • @prestongarvey7745
      @prestongarvey7745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Bill Parker It also says they flayed and skinned them. If they where actually people that may have been a bigger deal.

    • @sciencefliestothemoon2305
      @sciencefliestothemoon2305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Well in antiquity people were aware of the similarities of apes and men.
      Also, could have been chimps as they describe many males. And even a single silverback protecting his harem is a bit of problem even with a spear in hand.

    • @patricianoftheplebs6015
      @patricianoftheplebs6015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bill Parker perhaps you are right. After we do have feral people and a few tribes we have not had contact with. Migration is a thing. They could have just moved away after Rome showed up.

  • @planetkc
    @planetkc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I need more reactions from Hanno when encountering gorillas, they must have thought they were part human

    • @johngarcia1340
      @johngarcia1340 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i think they were bonobos

    • @1traphistory
      @1traphistory ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johngarcia1340 You might be right. Kind of hard to believe they chased Gorillas into trees captured a few females and all they did was bite their arms. Even true chimps would have done more damage let alone Gorillas. Either way to think they were human is wild to my modern thought process

  • @largavidaalosdodosn6931
    @largavidaalosdodosn6931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    If the depiction of the Gorilli is the one we think it's funny to think that people from that era thought they were other kind of hairy people 🤔

    • @gabrielinostroza4989
      @gabrielinostroza4989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Well they had met Greeks before

    • @jason4275
      @jason4275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@gabrielinostroza4989 until the Turks and Armenians came along.

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      They probably thought humans could have very different appearances in far away regions back then now we know the only differences are skin color and eye shape but back then they assumed that there where people far away that looked like a completely different species.

    • @jason4275
      @jason4275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@belstar1128 They we lucky they did not sail to Sudan and meet the tribe where almost everyone is over 6ft tall.

    • @cheekybum1513
      @cheekybum1513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Another commenter made a good point in that we’re reading a abridged translation of a translation etc, so they might not have necessarily thought the gorillas were human, just the language they used to describe them makes it seem that way.

  • @6thsavage
    @6thsavage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    This is how I feel explaining MapQuest to young folk.

    • @googiegress7459
      @googiegress7459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "We set out for the Starbucks, but there were many hairy people, who threw rocks at us and bit us, and we fled, and ended up eating at Sbarro"

  • @Mikeztarp
    @Mikeztarp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    7:18 100 km = 54 nautical miles (in case anyone was wondering like me)
    As for the Tin Islands, Brittany and Cornwall were indeed big sources of tin in Antiquity (Brittany isn't an island, but it contains islands).

    • @2bingtim
      @2bingtim ปีที่แล้ว

      c64 miles, not 54.

    • @HungryLoki
      @HungryLoki ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2bingtim You're confusing nautical miles and regular miles.

    • @2bingtim
      @2bingtim ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HungryLoki Ah, quite right thanks.

  • @Szmonk13
    @Szmonk13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    5:09 okay but when the mixtape dropping fam?

    • @blackbreakfast1256
      @blackbreakfast1256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      MC Victa

    • @user-xe7gv2cl4m
      @user-xe7gv2cl4m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blackbreakfast1256
      The Phoenicians were cowards and the army of Carthage were Berbers

  • @edaxsachorwzky8898
    @edaxsachorwzky8898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Carthage was on Alexander’s “next to do” list

    • @octo1894
      @octo1894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Then he remembered Carthage was boss and didn't want to get spanked like the Spartans in Libya and did a 180 at Egypt LMAO

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@octo1894 To be fair, the Spartans didn't want those guys anyway. A real boss is Syracuse. Those are some tough bastards.

    • @octo1894
      @octo1894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hyperion3145 What makes Syracuse special? They were just Ionians before the Dorian genocide twisted the demographics. By the time Carthage had colonized the Island, in the words of the Malchus "the sons of Tyre have conquered all of Sicily" Syracuse under Hiero was an ally/client city of Carthage. Besides, among all the Greek tribes, the Thebans had the most refined martial prowess.

    • @octo1894
      @octo1894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      imo of course. Thebes is highly underrated

    • @arawn1061
      @arawn1061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@octo1894 bruh didnt you see how much resistance Syracuse gave to both rome and Carthage?

  • @marianconstantindumitriu6062
    @marianconstantindumitriu6062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Invicta: "Almost a fourth of the diameter of the Earth!"
    Polinesians: "Lol, newbs..."

  • @200131240
    @200131240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Imagine seeing a gorilla and not having any idea what it is. “Why is this hairy person biting me?!”

    • @billparker244
      @billparker244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maybe something's lost in translation and they WERE people.

    • @nvmtt1403
      @nvmtt1403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@billparker244 bruh.........that means they flayed people...........

    • @JimmyMcGillsg
      @JimmyMcGillsg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actual gorillas don't defend them selfs with stones people do

    • @billparker244
      @billparker244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nvmtt1403 Yeah, it sounds terrible, but I've heard of other people getting flayed in antiquity too. The more "civilized" people back then would dehumanize what they would consider lesser civilized humans. The Romans for example looked down their snobby noses at the Celts. There was also no such thing as the UN like we have today for shaming countries that violate human rights. Although, it's currently broken when it comes to China lol
      I'm not saying I 100% believe it, but it's interesting to ponder.

    • @user-xe7gv2cl4m
      @user-xe7gv2cl4m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billparker244
      The Phoenicians were cowards and the army of Carthage were Berbers

  • @galloe8933
    @galloe8933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I like how he took the gorilla's woman like they were just other humans with lots of hair, it's kind of cute in a horrifying they kidnapped the female gorillas sort of way...

    • @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
      @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Kidnapping was a normal way of first contact back then. Columbus did it.
      How are you going to teach and learn a language if you are not talking? How are you going to talk if they run from you?

    • @cortexavery1324
      @cortexavery1324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 colombus and carthage are not really the same time period, and there was man expeditions made by the greeks, the phoenicians and the chinese which although going in unknown territory did not involve kidnaping. Even Hannos made several first contacts without kidnapping. It is not to be rationalised, accepted yes, but rationalised to the point of saying it's "normal way of first contact"... My oh my...

    • @trla6505
      @trla6505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 peopel only star running away when you start killing them...

    • @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
      @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trla6505 People have been killing others since times immemorial, and strangers are to be assumed to be dangerous, especially if they are armed and in large numbers.
      But of course you are talking about modern people in London, Paris or New York, protected by hundreds of ships, thousands of police and million soldiers and knowing no unknown threats on the entire planet, which is mapped from space by satellites good enough to read a license plate.
      In that you are right.

    • @sztallone415
      @sztallone415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and then they skinned them and took them back as trophies. ancient people didn't fuck around, i think we can all agree on that.

  • @blakemathis2694
    @blakemathis2694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love this series on Carthage! Please continue onward; you guys are awesome!

  • @twitchlite398
    @twitchlite398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Come on Herodotus i'm from the famous moroccan atlas mountains and i eat living things and i dream

    • @largavidaalosdodosn6931
      @largavidaalosdodosn6931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you the Chinese guy whom eat things?

    • @twitchlite398
      @twitchlite398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@largavidaalosdodosn6931
      Dude what are you talking about, I'm a proud mediterenean berber from the western side of north africa aka Moorish or Moroccan, what's china had to do with me?? lol, Herodotus said that the inhabitans of the atlas mountains don't eat living thing meaning they only eat plants, so i said that we do eat living things of course not when they are alive like you said lol

    • @twitchlite398
      @twitchlite398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@largavidaalosdodosn6931
      I'm from the country that colonized for 800 years the country that colonized you lol

    • @largavidaalosdodosn6931
      @largavidaalosdodosn6931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@twitchlite398 dude was a joke, you're taking this too much serious 🤦🏿‍♂️
      facebook.com/RizwanUllahOfficial001/videos/217797065948133/

    • @AleronWolf
      @AleronWolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you sure you dream? Nobody else can see your dreams, so how can we know? All Europians and North Africans have one connected consciousness, so we can see each others dreams, but not Moroccan. You see, everything is scientific. Big brain.

  • @spinakker14
    @spinakker14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've learned so much about Carthage from you. All I had known from history lessons and age of empires that it was an enemy of Rome and that they had war elephants
    It's a fascinating civilization, I wish to learn more about it

  • @profileprofile7028
    @profileprofile7028 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I live in Rhode Island in the Northeast USA. There is a wildlife refuge here (Parker Woodland Audubon Society in Coventry, Rhode Island) which contains hundreds of large stone cairns. It is not known who built them, European settlers and local Indians both did not build in this way. It is speculated that the ancient Celts or Phoenicians may have built them.

  • @allonzehe9135
    @allonzehe9135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing! More episodes about ancient expeditions please! This is such an interesting topic.

  • @wrex509
    @wrex509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just the information Ive been wondering about!

  • @Jon-yy9qs
    @Jon-yy9qs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just brilliant content, more Carthage please!

  • @aryowisnuwardhana6666
    @aryowisnuwardhana6666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the very best episode! Thanks a lot for the informative subjects you put up here!

  • @TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4
    @TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful story. I love learning new things because of yall. Thank you

  • @Memorial_Memory
    @Memorial_Memory 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think of all the secret explorers that found trade routes to places unknown. Even a king doesn't know how many people leave his shore much less does he even know what's going on in his own home.

  • @aaronlippincott7385
    @aaronlippincott7385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I forgot how underrated this channel is, thanks for the hard work!

    • @skizzik121
      @skizzik121 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      is it though? it has around 830,000 subs. Thats quite a bit in the history community

    • @aaronlippincott7385
      @aaronlippincott7385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skizzik121 lol "the history community" isn't so much of a thing on YT. People are interested in history, many people, in and outside of academia. Documentary channels are testament to that. This channel does good documentaries, yes on history, so well that I would consider this to be underrated on TH-cam.

  • @abbba2007
    @abbba2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for sharing, this one was absolutely astonishing to watch.

  • @beatthecrowd001
    @beatthecrowd001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First time I've actually heard the accounts of this voyage in detail, thank you 🙏🏻

  • @miguelmontenegro3520
    @miguelmontenegro3520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hanno: Just... one... more... mile...
    But seriously, I wonder If George Martin based Corlys Velaryon on Hanno or that Chinese captain..

    • @reinhardtscheepers6317
      @reinhardtscheepers6317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Miguel Montenegro I thought the exact same while watching the video. Maybe GRR made Corliss the archetypal representation of all the great explorers from antiquity to late medieval times.

    • @ineshvaladolenc6559
      @ineshvaladolenc6559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zheng He is the name you're looking for.
      But yes, Hanno, Zheng He, Columbus, Magellan, Cook, and many more that came before or after them. These are just some of the more known explorers that could all be represented by Corlys Velaryon.

  • @mamboking0134
    @mamboking0134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's so troll to bring up the northern expedition than find out it's classified, lol. Now I'm more curious than ever...

  • @gfresh513
    @gfresh513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really interesting! Big thank you for making this video!

  • @manuscriptsdontburn
    @manuscriptsdontburn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for all the videos about Carthage!

  • @fleetfoot9897
    @fleetfoot9897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy's presentation voice has much improved - very well done diction.

  • @doubledouble4g379
    @doubledouble4g379 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I just woke-up with a horrible realization - I forgot to like this video!

  • @artkoenig9434
    @artkoenig9434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was fascinating! Thank you!

  • @mingelcoac
    @mingelcoac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The details on the journey to the western coast if Africa are mind-blowing. What an incredible adventure. It is fascinating to hear about what peoples thought upon discovering thing we are very familiar with now.
    Great video, thanks you for your work!

  • @AlphaCrucis
    @AlphaCrucis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is wonderful! I was wondering about early Mediterranean dwellers going off to explore beyond the pillars. So many questions! How long did Hanno's expedition take? Were there further expeditions that followed? What was the fate of all of the colonies they established?

  • @CatastrophicDisease
    @CatastrophicDisease 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can we talk about the fact that they skinned gorillas - even worse, they skinned gorillas even despite thinking that they were skinning humans? That's quite grimy.

    • @teamcastro9187
      @teamcastro9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone in the mediterranean sacrificed children for religious purposes so yeah it’s already metal

    • @christophersnedeker2065
      @christophersnedeker2065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teamcastro9187 not everyone but Carthage did

  • @agora5230
    @agora5230 ปีที่แล้ว

    This documentary is wonderful, thank you so much for all your effort

  • @kirschakos
    @kirschakos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was mind-blowing! Awesome stuff really! If you have more data of ancient explorations please make a video about it!

  • @MerkhVision
    @MerkhVision 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had previously read that same story of Hanno’s journey down the coast of Africa and found it very interesting and a little bizarre, but had forgotten the author and his civilization, besides thinking it somewhat Greco-Roman-ish (altar to Neptune, Greek-sounding place names) but I realize those are probably due to whoever translated the abridged version and I’ll never make the mistake of overlooking Carthage again.

  • @EchoPandaGaming
    @EchoPandaGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If I had a nickel for every time Magellan was mentioned in this video, i would have one more than expected.

  • @jamesporter628
    @jamesporter628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really loved this. I would love more expeditions. Infact this would make a great TH-cam channel by itself

  • @guldorak
    @guldorak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was EXCELLENT! Thank you

  • @pabloamadomontero664
    @pabloamadomontero664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I noticed that you used a geographical maps with the ancient coastline.
    For example there is a gulf in the SW of Spain where now is the Doñana national park.
    Congrats!

  • @andrewdock7288
    @andrewdock7288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What happened to the cities they created after Carthage fall because the Romans never went down that far on the Atlantic cost?
    Did they survive and if so what became of them?

  • @adamtomasovic4995
    @adamtomasovic4995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your documentaries about antic explorers, military and way of life! I can hear your voice in the next video: "Today we will discuss about Pytheas of Massalia and his voyages to the North." Thank you for your content

  • @adamwelch4336
    @adamwelch4336 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your diagrams and cartoons! Your history is always on par!

  • @Celtokee
    @Celtokee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Excellent subject. Two observations: (1) the fact that each of Hanno's ships would have held 500 persons is sort of glossed over. That is a monumental accomplishment, if true. If true, then this mission was indeed colonial just as much as expeditionary. They really did drop large numbers of Carthaginians in these various settlements they established along the African coast. This may have been one of the largest focused colonial ventures in history. (2) Re: the "gorillas," it's unlikely that Carthaginians, who were familiar with macaques, would have called apes humans. It's possible that the beings that they encountered were a lost species of hominid, hairy yet far more human than apes. They are still today finding new species in certain vast expanses of the Congo, still one of the largest unexplored regions on earth. As Pliny the Elder said, "There is always something new out of Africa."

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This was an awesome video. I loved it. One thing the Roman's will never have over the Carthaginians is exploration. Hey has anyone ever heard of any great Roman explorers?

    • @nnelg8139
      @nnelg8139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Caesar explored Gaul and the coast of Britain; even wrote a book about it.

    • @jason4275
      @jason4275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Romans were only interested in Plunder and as for exploring like trading in spices from India they rely on the local population to sail the dangerous seas.

    • @dayros2023
      @dayros2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Roman merchants reached the baltic sea several time, not to mention the fleet that sailed all around Great Britain. There were regular voyages to India for trade and some roman merchants allegedly reached China. The Romans were fully capable of building big ocean capable ships.

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dayros2023---I know the Roman's were capable of building great ships. But did any great explorers arise from this civilization. And please don't mention Caesar. He wasn't really interested in exploration.

    • @dtice69
      @dtice69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@brokenbridge6316 he wasn't interested in it but he still did it lmfao

  • @hurryhussar
    @hurryhussar ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't sure why but I have a special interest in learning about civilizations who had strong determination and senses of oversea exploration and colonization. Fascinating! Keep up your works

  • @SquirrelGrrl
    @SquirrelGrrl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic! What an amazing life to live.

  • @Luredreier
    @Luredreier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's rock art in the nordic countries that suggests that a mediterranean civilization came as far north as at least the area around Southern Norway and Sweden and Denmark.
    Basically, whoever carved them must have seen such ships themselves at some point with their own eyes.
    That *could* be the expedition from Carthage...

  • @user-jv3mm6vt6e
    @user-jv3mm6vt6e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When you're so good at doing it that even ancient aliens theorists just sit and buy your goods.))

  • @JesusRocksTryPrayin
    @JesusRocksTryPrayin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video was perfect. i feel less troubled and learned something in the process

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. This is so fascinating

  • @avinfor
    @avinfor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When encountered for the first time by ancient explorers, apes where initially mistaken for people. Which is rather telling.

  • @gabrielinostroza4989
    @gabrielinostroza4989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's a
    Good day, For going to sea
    Hanno the navigator said to me

    • @gabrielinostroza4989
      @gabrielinostroza4989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Il Bugiardo dell'Umbria it's because it's a song by Al Stewart, a very catchy one th-cam.com/video/2sYIJyy5X14/w-d-xo.html

  • @MrBigCookieCrumble
    @MrBigCookieCrumble 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video!

  • @luislasbelin
    @luislasbelin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting video, continue with the work! :D

  • @DavidSaintloth
    @DavidSaintloth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why haven't we seen movies of Hanno's adventures! There needs to be material for dozens in the Carthaginians contributions to the ancient and modern world.

  • @trla6505
    @trla6505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The gorilla thing made me realice that humans will not see elves or dwarve like diferent races rather more like "humans with pointy ears" and small humans

  • @johncross5339
    @johncross5339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The images for this video are wonderful!

  • @lorefort
    @lorefort 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was brilliant to watch, it would have been such an incredible time to part of.

  • @cyrilchui2811
    @cyrilchui2811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At around 100BC, in a Trieme, how far can you go with sea shore out of sight? Could anyone go straight from Cathage to Marseilles without stopping at Sicily etc.? 24 hour without land was probably called exploration.

  • @angryyoungman66
    @angryyoungman66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So Spain ,Portugal ,Morocco
    were the countries in edge of the world back then .

    • @sergior.
      @sergior. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Non plus ultra

    • @angryyoungman66
      @angryyoungman66 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ruben champollion
      I thought that was the vikings

  • @Shpongle64
    @Shpongle64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Invicta, I really like these "How they did it." I just watched the growing up as a child in rome.

  • @ismailelazzouzi7112
    @ismailelazzouzi7112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just great job

  • @nyar2352
    @nyar2352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a cuneiformist and historian of Mesopotamia I always cringe when I hear the name Herodotus. That man wrote speculative fiction about foreign lands, spicing it up for the audience at home - so I really appreciate it that you are taking a stab at this idol!

    • @Slayer119988
      @Slayer119988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not all of it is so rubbish - just strangely described. “Hole dwelling people who made bat shrieks” could be an uncivilized tribe that made dugouts and did animals calls/war cries and they do. “Men who don’t eat or dream” is probably just monks who fast (maybe often, maybe only during day, maybe certain weeks) and don’t dream (mediation, natural medical remedy for deeper sleep?). Many accounts were taken from other people, so yes he’s not accurate and likely embellished some stories, but there’s truth to some weird bits.

    • @Slayer119988
      @Slayer119988 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eᑎᗩᔕ Not even entirely accurate and you’re telling me this why??

  • @Angelimir
    @Angelimir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As the British Isles were one of the primary source of tin in Europe since the early bronze age, so Himilco was right to search for certain islands of tin :)

  • @karlbergman4870
    @karlbergman4870 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the great work

  • @MrTotalAhole
    @MrTotalAhole 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never knew this thank you.
    I wish you could have covered just briefly, at the end, the places hypothesized that they stopped at as compared to the modern locations.

  • @PrincessTS01
    @PrincessTS01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    are there colonies of Carthage that have survived in population?

  • @sushanalone
    @sushanalone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel sad for the two poor Gorilli women.

  • @dansmith4077
    @dansmith4077 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video

  • @kanyekubrick5391
    @kanyekubrick5391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crazy. Literally heard of these two today in the History of Ancient Greece podcast EP 29

  • @Blalack77
    @Blalack77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's crazy they thought/considered the gorillas to be "people"... That kind of makes my mind race.

  • @t-mamba3893
    @t-mamba3893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The drawing from 14:08 depicts a royal procession in the Benin empire (in modern day Nigeria). 15:09 depicts art of Shaka Zulu from the Zulu kingdom in South Africa and the last picture also depicts southern African people in case anyone was wondering. Also none of these drawings are even contemporary with the 6th century B.C Great video but these drawings were oddly out of place for this topic.

  • @codybream5821
    @codybream5821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was great!

  • @dxhtz
    @dxhtz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You!!!!

  • @albertobarbosa9437
    @albertobarbosa9437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A small correction, it's Vasco da Gama, not de Gama

    • @arzentvm
      @arzentvm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      just a single letter

    • @alexandrejosedacostaneto381
      @alexandrejosedacostaneto381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@arzentvm It means completely different things in Portuguese

    • @skizzik121
      @skizzik121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arzentvm I tend to agree with small errors but this single letter is pretty important lol.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      oh wow I totally overlooked that thanks

    • @casparvoncampenhausen5249
      @casparvoncampenhausen5249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@arzentvm That's why he said "small correction"

  • @ISawABear
    @ISawABear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    well if we're talking about explorers i think Pytheas needs a mention

    • @dannybrown2099
      @dannybrown2099 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that the Massilian who discovered the Arctic circle?

    • @ISawABear
      @ISawABear 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dannybrown2099 yes!

  • @qigongkylar944
    @qigongkylar944 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Channels growing quick bro. Congrats.

  • @collintrytsman3353
    @collintrytsman3353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great to see rarely the credited efforts of these masterful sailors commented on, many more please