God, I remember doing a ton of these way back when the game first launched. Off the top of my head, I remenber really liking Weezing (Support), Vikavolt (Attacker), Nidoking (All-Rounder), Falinks (Defender), Stonjourner (Defender) and Porygon (All-Rounder*). Of them, Weezing and Porygon were my favorite- with Porygon in particular being a Scyther/Scizor situation, with Porygon 2 being more of a ranged Support while Porygon Z was a burst mage Attacker.
All very cool ideas! Wish more youtubers did these often. I'll be checking in for future concepts! Maybe you could spend a little more time on each Pokemon if you did them as individual videos. Noivern's passive, Infiltrator, could instead totally ignore shields. Also feel the unite could be reworked to be less redundant to the rest of its moveset and not make it so vulnerable to getting Ko'd while trying to attack others with it. Still overall probably my favorite concept of the three! Really like the Swalot moveset but I could almost as easily see it on Muk instead. Had created my own moveset for Swalot that had a higher focus on immobilizing & Stockpile mechanics. Was not expecting Starmie as a Support but it works! We could also use more Supports rather than Attackers so I like this interpretation of it for that reason. Thought its usage of the Analytic passive was very creative!
I have a video on Abra I made that definitely goes a lot more in depth, if that is what you're looking for. It takes a lot of time to put together, especially with unprecedented effects. For the time being, I'm going to stick with the PowerPoint setup, as it also forces me to not power-creep anything, and is generally easier to produce. I will definitely try to slow my pace and give more detail than what's given in the future. This video was unscripted, so my anxiety took over and I definitely spoke a little fast. Bypassing shields is a good idea for Infiltrator, too. I think Urshifu has a similar effect, and I wanted something different. I figured the speed boost would come in handy for Tailwind, and repositioning for Dragon Pulse. My idea with the Unite Move is that you're invincible while firing the beam. Definitely could've clarified that a bit more. Garbodor and Muk are valid contenders over Swalot. I just tend to associate Swalot with Stockpile more, and given the use of Spit Up/Swallow, Swalot's bigger mouth was needed. Starmie was fun to make, and I think people need to understand that supporters aren't just healers. Not saying every single one needs to be like Sableye, but I always have fun with Barrier Mr. Mime.
@@PotatoBagel23 Powerpoint setup works well. Perhaps one improvement on that could be the avatar not blocking the words, specifically when being talked about, so we can read along. I'll have to check out the Abra video! Ohh, I can imagine some people hating to face against that invincible unite haha. Yeah, Urshifu only partially ignores shields but is also a melee fighter so I thought it'd be different enough. We could use a few more Pokemon like that I'd say. The original passive idea is cool too of course, was just considering not cutting into the Speedsters role too much. I'd love to see Swalot added (over Muk or Garbador) specifically because of its Stockpile mechanics. I just thought more could be done with that theme it brings. In another comment I could explain based off the moveset I've made for it.
@@jakiru8783 I'm most likely going to adjust the scale of the presentation, so both would be on screen. Urshifu's passive works by essentially doing a 30% damage boost to enemies with shield, with that 30% bypassing the shield. If this effect were to be put on a Pokemon who is designed to attack from a range with its move, and have inherent cooldown reductions, that effect would be too powerful. Having a movement speed increase does not impede on what a speedster does. If that's what you believe, I am concerned for you as a player. Also, most unite moves last around 2-3 seconds. Being invincible for that time isn't annoying to deal with, especially when the beam that is being fired down is completely avoidable. I'm aware that I had the unite move in mind closer to Charizard's, but I think having it be closer to Talonflame's Fly would work better. I'm not trying to be rude, as your concerns are in the right places, but they are completely unneeded when looking at some of the nuances in this game's mechanics.
@@PotatoBagel23 Ah, I definitely sensed some hostility in the reply... I didn't mean any disrespect. I'm sorry I was too critical and will be more mindful of what I post next time. Thanks for explaining your ideas more👍
@@jakiru8783 you’re fine. I’ve been editing all day, so I’ve been cooped up for too long. My hostility was not targeted at you specifically, I’ve just been doing a lot. My priority with these videos is to explain the desired effects. I choose to avoid numbers as to not have discussions about what is “too much” or “too little”. The idea behind Noivern’s unite could be closer to Charizards, or it could be like Talon’s Fly. Both work. Same with its passive. If it’s impeding on a role or overshadowing a specific Pokémon, how would you know? This isn’t even real, you know?
I think Swalot's Unite move would be more fitting and unique if it was like Tahm Kench's Ult in LoL where he can swallow an ally or enemy to reposition them in order to save them or put them in a worse spot respectevely.
Very interesting ideas, swalot is my favorite here, a poison defender would be amazing to stop healing Noivern makes since as an attacker, it would be hard to make it a speedster dew to no melee basic attacks plus its more of a ranged pokemon so i see what your saying Starmie as a supporter is a cool idea, tho it would also make since as a speedster. dew to it slapping with its spikes for a basic attack and its many dash moves but i could see it as a supporter.
@@coolofthedude8345 that’s a valid argument. I thought about it, but it felt weird to have only a single evolution at 5, so I brought it to 4 like A9. Given that Venusaur and Chandelure use odd levels, a case can definitely be made.
Yeah, lvl 5 evo would better put it in line with the rest of the cast, given its Attacker role. Ninetales certainly isn't a bad argument. If it got the passive change of bypassing shields then the lvl-5 might start making a little more sense.
I've been wanting something similar with how you have Swalot but with Garbodor and him being an Attacker instead, especially the toxic and venoshock combo. Toxic could be like venu's sludge bomb but an even bigger area of effect for CC, and venoshock would just do massive damage to poisoned targets and even more damage to targets still in toxic.
@@imatooltoo I like the idea, there’s potential here. Having Toxic be similar to sludge bomb is a good starting point, but it definitely needs to not take away from venu’s capabilities
I'm now thinking high health attacker with it's health split into two and gaining more power when attacking with each other (I'm also thinking attacker)
@@PotatoBagel23I see latios and latias as xayah and rakan from lol It's a nice concept Ult could work in such a way that the user summons the other even if knocked out and both of them get a buff, for latios increased attack and latias increased health or faster cooldown
@@skarnus3000 I know nothing about league, and after about 5 seconds of research from the characters I get it now. I can definitely see something cool with the Unite Move, i'd have to figure out the rest
Would love to have Starmie in Unite! Great builds you came up with, congrats!
God, I remember doing a ton of these way back when the game first launched. Off the top of my head, I remenber really liking Weezing (Support), Vikavolt (Attacker), Nidoking (All-Rounder), Falinks (Defender), Stonjourner (Defender) and Porygon (All-Rounder*).
Of them, Weezing and Porygon were my favorite- with Porygon in particular being a Scyther/Scizor situation, with Porygon 2 being more of a ranged Support while Porygon Z was a burst mage Attacker.
Just subscribed! Video kept me interested and I enjoy the chill vibe. Thanks for the entertainment! :)
All very cool ideas! Wish more youtubers did these often. I'll be checking in for future concepts! Maybe you could spend a little more time on each Pokemon if you did them as individual videos.
Noivern's passive, Infiltrator, could instead totally ignore shields. Also feel the unite could be reworked to be less redundant to the rest of its moveset and not make it so vulnerable to getting Ko'd while trying to attack others with it. Still overall probably my favorite concept of the three!
Really like the Swalot moveset but I could almost as easily see it on Muk instead. Had created my own moveset for Swalot that had a higher focus on immobilizing & Stockpile mechanics.
Was not expecting Starmie as a Support but it works! We could also use more Supports rather than Attackers so I like this interpretation of it for that reason. Thought its usage of the Analytic passive was very creative!
I have a video on Abra I made that definitely goes a lot more in depth, if that is what you're looking for. It takes a lot of time to put together, especially with unprecedented effects. For the time being, I'm going to stick with the PowerPoint setup, as it also forces me to not power-creep anything, and is generally easier to produce. I will definitely try to slow my pace and give more detail than what's given in the future. This video was unscripted, so my anxiety took over and I definitely spoke a little fast.
Bypassing shields is a good idea for Infiltrator, too. I think Urshifu has a similar effect, and I wanted something different. I figured the speed boost would come in handy for Tailwind, and repositioning for Dragon Pulse. My idea with the Unite Move is that you're invincible while firing the beam. Definitely could've clarified that a bit more.
Garbodor and Muk are valid contenders over Swalot. I just tend to associate Swalot with Stockpile more, and given the use of Spit Up/Swallow, Swalot's bigger mouth was needed.
Starmie was fun to make, and I think people need to understand that supporters aren't just healers. Not saying every single one needs to be like Sableye, but I always have fun with Barrier Mr. Mime.
@@PotatoBagel23 Powerpoint setup works well. Perhaps one improvement on that could be the avatar not blocking the words, specifically when being talked about, so we can read along.
I'll have to check out the Abra video!
Ohh, I can imagine some people hating to face against that invincible unite haha.
Yeah, Urshifu only partially ignores shields but is also a melee fighter so I thought it'd be different enough. We could use a few more Pokemon like that I'd say.
The original passive idea is cool too of course, was just considering not cutting into the Speedsters role too much.
I'd love to see Swalot added (over Muk or Garbador) specifically because of its Stockpile mechanics. I just thought more could be done with that theme it brings. In another comment I could explain based off the moveset I've made for it.
@@jakiru8783 I'm most likely going to adjust the scale of the presentation, so both would be on screen.
Urshifu's passive works by essentially doing a 30% damage boost to enemies with shield, with that 30% bypassing the shield. If this effect were to be put on a Pokemon who is designed to attack from a range with its move, and have inherent cooldown reductions, that effect would be too powerful.
Having a movement speed increase does not impede on what a speedster does. If that's what you believe, I am concerned for you as a player.
Also, most unite moves last around 2-3 seconds. Being invincible for that time isn't annoying to deal with, especially when the beam that is being fired down is completely avoidable. I'm aware that I had the unite move in mind closer to Charizard's, but I think having it be closer to Talonflame's Fly would work better.
I'm not trying to be rude, as your concerns are in the right places, but they are completely unneeded when looking at some of the nuances in this game's mechanics.
@@PotatoBagel23 Ah, I definitely sensed some hostility in the reply...
I didn't mean any disrespect.
I'm sorry I was too critical and will be more mindful of what I post next time.
Thanks for explaining your ideas more👍
@@jakiru8783 you’re fine. I’ve been editing all day, so I’ve been cooped up for too long. My hostility was not targeted at you specifically, I’ve just been doing a lot. My priority with these videos is to explain the desired effects. I choose to avoid numbers as to not have discussions about what is “too much” or “too little”. The idea behind Noivern’s unite could be closer to Charizards, or it could be like Talon’s Fly. Both work. Same with its passive. If it’s impeding on a role or overshadowing a specific Pokémon, how would you know? This isn’t even real, you know?
I think Swalot's Unite move would be more fitting and unique if it was like Tahm Kench's Ult in LoL where he can swallow an ally or enemy to reposition them in order to save them or put them in a worse spot respectevely.
oh that's a good idea
Very interesting ideas, swalot is my favorite here, a poison defender would be amazing to stop healing
Noivern makes since as an attacker, it would be hard to make it a speedster dew to no melee basic attacks plus its more of a ranged pokemon so i see what your saying
Starmie as a supporter is a cool idea, tho it would also make since as a speedster. dew to it slapping with its spikes for a basic attack and its many dash moves
but i could see it as a supporter.
I love the ideas only thing I would change is just increasing Noiverns levels by one we don’t need anymore eevees running around
@@coolofthedude8345 that’s a valid argument. I thought about it, but it felt weird to have only a single evolution at 5, so I brought it to 4 like A9. Given that Venusaur and Chandelure use odd levels, a case can definitely be made.
Yeah, lvl 5 evo would better put it in line with the rest of the cast, given its Attacker role.
Ninetales certainly isn't a bad argument. If it got the passive change of bypassing shields then the lvl-5 might start making a little more sense.
I fully support Staryu/Starmie on the condition that they say Hiya like in the anime.
I think a level 4 ego for swallow could also work very well
what about the vaporeon, flareon and jolteon??
A pokemon that i want to see in Pokemon Unite is Zygarde. Its Power Construct ability fits perfectly with the game's mechanic.
@@orlandohernandezgonzalez I hate that you’re right. As soon as I saw this, the idea popped in my mind.
I've been wanting something similar with how you have Swalot but with Garbodor and him being an Attacker instead, especially the toxic and venoshock combo. Toxic could be like venu's sludge bomb but an even bigger area of effect for CC, and venoshock would just do massive damage to poisoned targets and even more damage to targets still in toxic.
@@imatooltoo I like the idea, there’s potential here. Having Toxic be similar to sludge bomb is a good starting point, but it definitely needs to not take away from venu’s capabilities
Great video and interesing ideas of gameplay for dmthis pkmn !
Starmie's camolfauge should hide the user and it's allies. That way it would actually support it's allies with it
I love swalot so much we need it in unite
Definitely Swalot is my favorite poison type
Nidoqueen, typhlosion and suicune are my top picks
6:30 bro i am literally watching this while eating. I don't want to eat anymore.😢
Do more videos like this. Do Bisharp or Kingambit please, I would like to see it.
Yo can i share some of my concept with ya, also, congrats, iam your 69 th sub 👀, great content brotha!
I really want plusle and minun to be 2 in 1 character
@@AriesSheep I see the vision. I’ll see what I can do
@@PotatoBagel23 I just invision them having mario and luigi type gameplay
@@AriesSheep I was thinking more like ice climbers
I'm now thinking high health attacker with it's health split into two and gaining more power when attacking with each other (I'm also thinking attacker)
Do one for Minior, I can already see shield down being a broken ability (sort of) in the game
new speedster, incoming
All I want is latios (attacker) and latias (supporter)
@@skarnus3000 interesting idea. Maybe pull a Mewtwo and give them the same moves but function differently
@@PotatoBagel23I see latios and latias as xayah and rakan from lol
It's a nice concept
Ult could work in such a way that the user summons the other even if knocked out and both of them get a buff, for latios increased attack and latias increased health or faster cooldown
@@skarnus3000 I know nothing about league, and after about 5 seconds of research from the characters I get it now. I can definitely see something cool with the Unite Move, i'd have to figure out the rest
@@PotatoBagel23 the recall idea would be nice, too
Im your 50th sub you plan on doing a 50 sub special
@@gravelorddarkrai I don’t know, I didn’t think I’d get this far
I just wanna mention I was the 69th subscriber (I'm saying this as a joke)
@@toko-kf5bz nice
K but like can I have dioxys
Deoxys would be cooler as the final objective, like Rayquaza, tbh
I can share my concept of deoxys with you if you want