A First Look At Alma Linux
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2022
- Alma Linux is a community Linux distribution designed to be binary-compatible with Red Hat Enterprise Linux. In other words, Alma Linux is what CentOS used to be. Although I'm not a server admin or anything, people have request that I look at Alma, so I'm going to run through a quick installation and first look inside a virtual machine.
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Fun fact: "Alma" is the Spanish word for "soul" (I believe the distro was developed mostly in Spain) and it is called such because, as a community-maintained distro, they believe the community (as illustrated by their logo) is the "soul" of Linux.
"Alma" is the exact hungarian word for "apple" (the fruit) :)
@@robertboth5500 alma means apple in turkic languages too, but written elma in istanbul turkish :)
eurasian nomad gang
Not really, the developers are the people from CloudLinux which are Eastern European, either Russian or Ukrainian (or both).
@@robertboth5500 that's interesting lmao, so we eat souls here
It means "sould" in Arabic too, so I wouldn't connect it with Spain just because it's called Alma.
6:20 wow, really good they made this migration thing not only for their own distro, but also their competitors. really nice of alma devs
you forget that linux is communism
@@Steerable6827 Well, they would make it open source anyway so other distro devs could take it and fork it for their own distros, but these guys officially support other distros by default. That's what I liked.
Yeah, that’s the good spirit. Serve the user to your best rather than fight competitors.
There no such thing as competition in linux. Linux is not capitalism, race, or contest.
@@RizkhyDestatama I think IBM, Google, Intel, Facebook, Samsung, and even Oracle have a bridge to sell to you ;-)
I think you mean "Free Software" rather and even in that case it's not clear why my code shouldn't be compared to others' so we collectively make better software.
Much the same as a truly constructive debate, the point isn't that we all agree, but that we're all teaming together against a common problem. Disagreements being not an obstacle but a means to grow if we're a team at the end of the day.
As for capitalism, in its basic form it's just the codification of that. What we're experiencing today is anything but, it's crony capitalism at best and frankly closer to actual fascism (i.e. collusion of state and corporations, in the original neutral definition).
Love the channel and the content DT. Your continued enthusiasm knows no bounds and each time that I watch I learn something new. - Thank you
Waiting for you to review this distro. If possible, please also review Rocky Linux. Thank you.
Ive been running Rocky Linux on a raspberry pi 3b+ and its been very good so far.
I imagine it comes with default untouched gnome as well. What do you need him to review? The wallpaper?
@@unclearam2055 Thanks for the feedback. I was planning to switch to the same.
@@wisnoskij That's a good one. Actually our entire dev team is planning to switch to Rocky Linux. That's why any feedback (not the wallpaper though :D) from the experienced people is appreciated.
I love how DT says strong and complicated password and then type 2 letters, just awesome :D
Yup, and you know what those two letters are.
@@SchoolforHackers omg how can you know!?
ah, your nick tells me...
@@SchoolforHackers Let's make a bet on what is the password used by dt ... 😀
The quality of these videos has gone up so much within the past 3 years!
Finally, a new member of the Red Hat family!
It's been around for more than a year.
TOPIC: CERN & FERMILAB USE ALMALINUX.
CERN, the European Center for Nuclear Research, and the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, have both said they will use AlmaLinux as "the standard distribution" for experiments at their facilities. If it is good enough for nuclear physicists, then I guess it is good enough for me and you! 😀
I was watching one of your old streams and you mentioned you were a King Diamond fan. Grandma approves! 🤣 🤟
Pretty cool, @distrotube. While listening to the audio, your dialogue is very descriptive. I don't know a blind person and wonder how they might rate this content's accessibility.
This distro is simply superb. Great redhat replacement.
I like your pronounciations. I would have never thought about sudo as sudu, or gnome as ganome, but they do sound funny. I'm going to pronounce them that way from now on in my head. I swear...
The full iso allows you to install a Workstation from the start, including office, internet applications etc.
If you do so, flatpak will be installed by default, giving you access to flathub (which repo you have to add manually).
After you did so, and added the epel and rpm-fusion repos, you have a workstation which has support up till 2032.
It is what I actually recommend to my clients whom's home pc I manage (I do use extension to give it more of a desktop feel),
unless the need specific software which isn't available in the mentioned sources.
Having been an admin and developer in the Enterprise for Linux using (RHEL, AIX (IBM UNIX), HPUX, and Solaris) throughout and developing on Linux using RHEL and Ubuntu (initially), I can tell you if you wanted to study for your Red Hat certifications it was recommended to install CentOS because as it was told to me, "CentOS is bug for bug the same as RHEL". Looks like AlmaLinux may be a good replacement in that space. BTW: I too have issue with anaconda, you'd think a company with the resources of RH would do a bit better with their installer, though it is miles ahead of the earlier text based installers for RH. 🙂 Great Video as always!
Oracle Linux, RockyLinux, ALmaLinux, CentoS (prior to to 8.3 being hosed/dropped); all pretty much were just like Redhat
Thanks for the overview DT! I am all Debian based now, and have been for years, but been wanting to play with RHEL based again, and this looks like a good one to try.
Once you go RHEL based, you won't want to go back to Debian.
@@tonystorcke We will see about that. I do some work with an Alma server now, but mostly through Plesk. RedHat/CentOS drove me away years ago because of RPM HELL. I find Ubuntu Server and PPAs quite nice to work with, but these Snaps, not so much.
@@javabeanz8549 RPM hell is long over, mainly because DNF is so good. The other reason is that most Desktop apps worth using are flatpaks.
Alma means soul in Spanish, could this mean that Alma linux carries over the soul of CentOS? (≧▽≦)
It also means "don't buy" in Turkish, maybe they're encouraging people to not buy RHEL :)
Truee
@@kmmmsyr9883 so it's translate it as "don't buy RH, keep your soul."
it`s a very nice distro, I use it on my main machine, awesome work !!!
Thanks, will be using Debain on my very old laptop
Always wondered why I never saw any redhat distro installs other than fedora. Really appreciate your video on this thanks. I use AlmaLinux on Raspberry pi’s for labs. It is a cool distro!
Because Fedora’s the exciting distro with new stuff while RHEL (and derivatives) are boring stable LTS distros for servers.
Howdy, DT. Just for informational purposes --- EL = Enterprise Linux, so a RHEL clone or RHEL itself. So the migrate script will migrate from RHEL > Alma, Rocky > Alma, etc. The Elevate script is for upgrading from a version 7 EL distro ( RHEL, Rocky, CentOS, etc ) to Alma 8. Basically an update script. So Centos 7 > Alma 8. Oracle Linux 7 > Alma 8, etc
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I have a server, which hosted on Cent OS before, now I switched to Euro Linux and it has been fantastic since.
DT.
Champion of the mainstream.
The minimal being 1.5GB is rather high. That's also DVD-sized.
I don't think anything more than 700MB is considered minimal
You can also install the Workstation group to get a graphical environment
ya if you want gnome desktop environment, if not you need to Enable PowerTools and RPMFusion Repositories. then install the Dependencies then Set Graphical Interface on Startup. while your doing that you can choice from xfce ,kde and mate .if you want ciniomon ,lxde, lxqte and any mindow manger then you need to enable the copr repository
@@leobrocato3230 Thanks for the info. I just ordered a new linux laptop and alama or rocky is going to be my back up if fedora doesn't work properly for what ever reason because it is certified to work with rhel.
@@lejoshmont2093 I have a fairly new desktop and with the newer kernal that fedora comes with it fix my wifi problem. every few new things with be supported in alama or rocky with out haveing to do some work on your own . i hope the best for you , what ever desktop and operating system you chooice .
@@leobrocato3230 I am currently on a 2017 mbp and the hardware support wasn't the best to start with but it seems to be regressing now with newer releases. I'm looking forward to having hardware hardware function keys again.
That’s offered only on the full DVD install but like I mentored, you’re better off picking the smaller live CD, install your favorite desktop environment and go from there.
Ah, good ol' Red Hat. As soon as you mentioned anaconda, the memories start flooding back lol. I was thinking about brushing up on RH stuff and going for Red Hat certs and I'm going to have to get a flash drive and give Alma Linux a try.
The complete distro would install a graphical environment. But by far the most used version of CentOS and now Alma or Rocky is of course the minimal install since that is more adequate for say VM's with their lower footprint. Also it is much better to have installed only the needed software then the entire stack and for the most part servers do not need the graphical interface they're used to run web apps and other software, you do not need or want to have lot's of software on a server ...the minimal the better.
Also for the most part that's the main reason that the wiki is small ... it is not about installing everything on the planet just the basic Server-Side apps ... Webserver, databases, php, Java and the like ... all Server side tools. Also of importance about the information of those OS's ... if anyone has some doubts about Alma or Rocky Linux and needs support you can find that information on the previous Centos Forums ... remember that RedHat Entreprise, CentOS, Alma Linux and Rocky Linux should have exactly the same behavior and so those older Forums are very much up to date for Any of those distros.
I am more and more curious about Fedora Rhel and in general the entire Red Hat family 💪
hey that partitioning in Fedora distros....!! Literally had me an hour trying to figure it out the first time
It can be a desktop. Since this video was released, Alma Linux has provided live CDs of three popular desktop environments: GNOME, KDE and XFCE. Now it will boot to a proper desktop and all that’s necessary is to install third party repositories and set up Flatpak. Here you have an LTS version of Fedora and you’re good to go! While its still a server distro, anyone who can find their way around Fedora will feel right at home on Alma Linux.
Alma Linux server with GUI install seems like a good choice for those who preparing for RHEL examination or Linux certification etc.
@DistroTube not many people know after installing x11, you can enable Copr and get more choices in desktop environment other then then gnome and the ones included in EPEL Repository. But the best thing to do is build the desktop eviroment / window manger from source and install homebrew if people want to use Alma linux as their daily driver .
Adding copr and dealing with DEs on a Linux server doesn't seem very clever I gotta say.
@@arashjahdkaran1220 that why i sayed the preferred method is build it from source
You don’t actually need to make a root user in the installer. Root will just be disabled. But you do need to make your own user an administrator in the installer. Or you might have a more serious problem getting your user into the sudoers group if there’s no root user enabled.
Centos is not *dead*. But they changed to it, to being a testbed for code, later til be included in RHEL. Which of course makes it unsuitable for production use.
CENTOS Stream is kind of like Fedora, a rolling release with an emphasis on stability. You get the best of both worlds: updated software and enterprise level stability. Its not for everyone but its positioned as a kind of a happy medium between Red Hat’s server product and bleeding edge Fedora.
Linux for life!
Hey DT! I wanted to try virt-manager but I didn't know what distro to try so I did Arch with the new archinstall followed by installing DTOS. It's amazing, but it only has the Xmonad WM. I also wanted to try out your Qtile config, but neither the config files, nor qtile were on the system. Will you add your Qtile config to DTOS, or maybe make a Qtile version of it? Thanks and Greetings from the UK!
DT , thanks for the video. Well done and informative. I have a question for you and some of the distro tube family. I have an old macmini(2011)5.1 2.3ghz dual core with 16gb of ram. I am using MX Linux, I like it , I am using the suggested older machine distro. My question is what other distros should I look at with my cpu limitations? I am a beginner , but I am getting comfortable really quickly. Enjoy your channel, keep it up!,,
The DVD ISO does install a graphical environment.
You can hear, that the password is dt... mechanical keyboards are awesome ^^
with centos stream 9 8 Gig iso, choosing workstation does not automatically enter gui, I had to "startx" to start the GUI. (just fix a typo in stream)
Just to confirm this - yes if you get the full DVD ISO, you will get to choose whether to install a DE (I think Redhat only offers Gnome after EL8 [inclusive]), alongside a lot of other things. E.g. webservers, developer tools, etc.
The boot ISO also allows for choosing some of the installed packages/package groups, but requires downloading the packages via the network during install.
Edit: the 1.5 GB minimal image that DT used to install also supports changing installed software, via Software Selections during install (but would require downloading some packages via the network on the fly).
rocky linux is the best :)
Serious question to whoever feels inclined, what happened to the classic installer? no gui just a black screen and white text, it seems the full customization TTY install method, is becoming extinct, and I don't understand, a GUI is easy, but you lose custom encryption, btrfs subvolumes (openSUSE is the exception to that), you lose the feeling of accomplishment that you can only get from a DIY, building from the ground up installer. Any thoughts?
Anaconda (Red Hat-family installer) does have a text mode.
Once you would need to automate installations, you will end up using kickstart files anyways. By this you wouldn't even see the UI of the installer.
If you pronounce CentOS like that, we can pronounce DTOS as deetoss?
There is also a Live DVD iso. It is I n a different directory.
We need a Nekromancer Linux.
I know, right?
@@victornecromancer if there's an ALMA Linux there must be a Nekromancer Linux!
Heh heh heh yeah.
CentOS was moved to an upstream model - no longer being a stable clone of RHEL (be it all for good or ill) - Red Hat position it between Fedora and RHEL to try to encourage more developer engagement. It's now called CentOS Stream. So, Alma Linux/Rocky Linux/Oracle Linux and EuroLinux are all apparently RHEL clones. Binary compatibility being key but all Red Hat specific packages removed, just like CentOS before it.
I use AlmaLinux via WSL for Windows as my work requires a Windows install.
"Alma" was Spanish. Not any more. To USAers it's "orlmor"
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Every time I turn around there's another Linux distro...can't tell what pops up more, a new Linux distro or a new cryptocurrency
Honest question. Is it common to SysAdmin customize the terminal and all kinds of customization or like a "normal user" do in a desktop fashion?
I don't recall having any problems with Gnome Wayland in my VM's. It works just as well as X11.
I still run X11 because its still more than adequate and Wayland still isn’t ready for prime time.
Sometimes I think DT has a personal problem with Wayland rather than a technical one.
Can u make a video about wayland and like what do u think of it?
Warning messages about password are good enough in my opinion. How many users will use such a password? Likely only a few VM users
No, really the white check in the black circle makes it look like it's selected. I know, it is counterintuitive that it says nothing is selected, but when you go to the screen, behold! It is selected. It's basically trying to mess with your head.
I know that centos created a void for sys-admin, network engineers, devops, etc. So here comes Alma, Rocky linux charging in to fill the spot. What happened to the excitement with Alma more so then Rocky. I've been seeing a huge push for Rocky. DT if your give a few thoughts on this cool. Another thing nixos a minimal size distro, and alpine linux is even smaller. Am I looking at this wrong?
Alma means apple in hungarian .-.
Almát körtével...
Rocky Linux is probably the distro you wanted to try 😉
I'm still making up my mind whether I should go for Alma Linux or Rocky Linux.
Why not both?
@Fashinqu A. Because it’s commercial (it costs).
@Fashinqu A. I actually did this a few months ago and the process of getting the keys to authenticate is a huge pain. I burned through 3 of my keys before I even got one of the servers to actually post. So yes they do give you some for free and 16 is more than enough for me but it's the principal that they are gate keeping the OS from non payers.
Can you trust a person behind Rocky when he's responsible for selling CentOS to Red Hat?
@@camerontgore Why not Debian?
Try Alt Linux. AFAIK is the only distro with APT+RPM
PCLOS is also APT with RPM.
Im not sure but I think the normal AlmaLinux group was the "Workstation", just like the Fedora main DE (gnome) its also called Fedora Workstation
Correct. This is also available from the start when using the full dvd iso
The main difference is one is LTS and the other isn’t. Fedora doesn’t offer an LTS version and that gap is nicely filled by RHEL and its clones upstream.
Yo bro, what you recommended for RAM 2GB DE that run smooth with alma ?
EL8 means Enterprise Linux 8.
DT what happen to showing HTOP in this OS, I am missing the old DT. LOL.
Could you do an Alma linux vs Rocky linux comparison video?
DT only looks at DEs, (and I guess installers and other stuff nessesary to get to that step). What do you realistically expect him to review? From his perspective the difference between these distributions is the wallpaper. They both use default gnome, with dnf and yum, and the anaconda installer.
can you tell me, what distro linux is best for laravel web server offline?
Rocky vs Alma ?? I don't really know the differences but I have used Rocky before.
As far as I know, Centos is not dead, rather than being a copy of RedHat Enterprise Linux, it is now a community project on which Red Hat Enterprise Linux is based on. I think Centos stream 8 is based on Fedora 28, Centos stream 9 on Fedora 34... Fedora current version being 36. I was expecting a very stable version with Centos stream 9, but sound is not working (I think because pipewire not working... aplay -D sysdefault piano2.wav works), and packages in rpm fusion seems not presents.
my understanding is centos is the beta branch of RHEL.
@@wisnoskij I heard that too. So what's Fedora then?
@@maxdjently Fedora is the workstation/desktop version I think, so it is probably with all the hardcore corperate server stuff removed.
CentOS and Scientific Linux were open source rebuilds of RHEL. Not everything RH is open source, so you didn’t exactly get everything, but they were great for use by hospitals, universities, etc. Sadly, Cent folded, and that’s why Rocky and Alma sprang up. They’re for serious enterprise stuff, without having to pay for RH support. Fedora is it’s own community, with support from RH. It’s its own enthusiast distro, but is the beta playground for RHEL. You could run it on a server, but I wouldn’t. Ubuntu started as an enthusiast distro mostly for desktops, then grew into the server space, especially in Africa and Europe. And that’s not half as complicated as the history of Unix (I supported SunOS/Solaris and HP-UX). Damn....
So think Rawhide -> Fedora -> RHEL -> Cent/Alma/Rocky.
do it also work with normal Laptop for Private use, when i interest in an Distro like Fedora but with LTS?
Of course it does! If you install it as a desktop, it will run exactly like Fedora but you won’t be forced to upgrade every six months.
ok but when will you look at alma smego?
I love your videos and my I ask for you make a video on how to give a desktop to my second screen I use archcrafft and I do not know how to do it
5:29 - WAIT DT! You want to select the checkbox "Make this user administrator". That is important bro.
11:30 so what if i wanted KDE instead what group would i use?
You don’t have to. There is now a live CD available with KDE on it and you simply run it and install it. Before, there was only the default GNOME and I’m happy to see KDE back in the Red Hat environment.
Hello
Can you review chimera-linux?
just want you to comfirm the disk,i think
root passwd definitely not dt
Aw naw.
Alma means Apple in Hungarian I don’t think there is a coincidence but funny
Apparently RHEL 9.0 is out since May 17, 2022.
All good for ten years! You love Fedora but you don’t want upgrade every six months? That’s where Alma Linux and Rocky Linux are for the long term.
Which is better Alma Linux or Rocky Linux?
They’re identical so its a matter of deciding which RHEL clone best suits your taste.
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Not sure if he was trolling or not but Gnome doesn't use those color of icons in their file manager anymore its an older version.
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RHEL releases are not based on the latest and greatest Fedora versions. If I'm not mistaken, RHEL 9.0 is based on Fedora 34, and that's why we don't see any of the newer GNOME stuff.
@@lucas7061 Sounds about right I wasn't sure how far behind the stable packages were.
10:31 to 10:38 What you do heare is pointless. There is no need for use minimal install cli if you want to use server with gui. The outcome is same as when you check the box in gui software selection at 5:15. Yes you can choose Server with gui there even if minimal iso is used
I know it's mainly still unstable at best, but you should take a look at ChromeOS Flex once it has gotten off the ground a bit more.
Cent os is is now the betaversion of rhel. That's the reason why nobody uses it anymore.
ALMA....RED HAT RED DRESS FEAR the GAME....I'M GETTING PTSD...
>last video
Shills systemd
>this video
Shills redhat
What a coincidence!
Is it systemd garbage free?
alma is a fedora with color ahaha
LOL, a patreon supporter, actually calling him self Y. U Bald. What a troll. :D
i have a server
World
why so many distributions based on CentOS/RedHat that want to do same? it hurts integrity and kind of undermine position of Linux... Rocky ,Alma.. I would rather one that's working properly instead of several incomplete. Similar think basically almost killed FreeBSD...
4:11 I personally prefer to encrypt my dad but I guess everyone is free to do as they please
If you have NO known; why are youreviewing!
🤣the fact I'm from a city called alma n we say it different 😭
All your linux? LOL
This awful upload is not a “first look at Alma Linux”. Just because a few more gigs of download is mysteriously something you can’t handle, we have to sit through you sudouing this and that for ages. I have no idea at all what this distro is like because I’m not going to waste time watching this video all the way through. Derek, this is my first ever dislike on one of your videos.
virtuozzo/vz linux is red hat based too (I thhink). Aint sus that 8.6 and 9 versions were released practically at the same time? amd has not released drivers for rh 9 yet