Great video. I've been wanting to make my 2018 Trek Marlin 5 a light trail bike with the ability to ride quick on hard pack surfaces. I'm definitely going with the Corner Bars. Your video was informative and answered a lot of my concerns. Thank you.
Thanks! Yeah yeah it Carrie’s speed quite well going downhill, and with the aggressive tires it really roars. Can’t wait to really put it to the test this year on some trips where I can use it to explore on extended day rides from camp.
Check out Chino Hills State Park. It has a a campsite and an amazing trail system. It also connects to Huntington Beach via the Santa Ana River Bike Trail.
@@EntropyOCD Didn't know about said state park when I was still living in SoCal (born and raised there); cool thing to know though(!). I was more a local at Crystal Cove State Park (aka El Morro), Alta Laguna park in Laguna Beach, and the Cleavland National 'Forest' in S. Orange County. San Diego has a chunk of said 'forest' too.
Thanks for your video! I’ve watched it a couple of times. My question is what kind of “shims” did you use to get your aero bars to stay in place being the Corner Bar is very skinny! Thanks in advance!
I run the Moloko bars with the horns fully taped; comfy and gives you more grip using them like bar-ends and more comfortable when on smoother stretches/windy bits. Use the main grips in sketchier traffic or terrain scenarios,for quick hand/arm relief in long rides, and when doing grocery runs using my hiking backpack. The Ergons I use are the GA2s; don't care for the 'winged' Ergons as much.
Yeah I need to get mine taped up to maximize the comfort for sure. I’m still liking the ESI grips so hopefully can find some tape to match. Thanks for watching!
@@thomashendron4356 they are Profile Design bars, honestly I can’t remember the specific model, they were an all Aluminium version and fairly affordable. You’ll just want to make sure they have the shims (or adjustment) necessary to clamp to the Corner Bars
I thought I was the only one who put the levers and the shifters on the drops of the corner bar and not the hoods, as most if not all of the videos I've seen with Surly corner bar set ups put them on the hood. It just makes more sense for them to be on the drops and results in a more ergonomic hand position.
@@ElevationEveryWeekend did you have a problem with brake hose length being too stretched? Thinking of changing mine because it was just too tense when I initially put the lever on the hood. Its current drop position is less stretched but still planning to change it because I wanted my bar to rise a bit more. I ride a salsa journeyer with it.
I did not have to modify anything with the cables. I did add one small zip tie (very loosely to not obstruct movement) to one of the cables on the left just to keep it together with the other cable on the left side to clean things up a bit. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this very informative video. It’s exactly that what I was looking for. I’ll assemble a Salsa Fargo and can’t decide which handlebar would be more suitable for this bike. I plan to ride along the former inner border in Germany. The terrain is super steep and on the old military way. Any recommendations? Actually, I ordered the Corner Bar, but I wonder if the Moloko is better for this technical and rough terrain.
The Corner Bar is actually capable of some light tech riding (compared to pretty much any other drop bar on the market), due to the width of the bars. So depending on your specific terrain it may do the job (as “technical terrain” can mean many different things). I would not want it for faster single track type terrain, or extremely low speed terrain where lots of input to the bars is necessary. Hopefully you can try them and return them if they are not for you. Thanks for watching!!
It was super easy to attach them, I did need to use spacers supplied by Profile Designs to fit the smaller bar diameter of the Corner Bar. I would not add aero bars to the Moloko Bar, and I believe Surly explicitly states they should not be used too.
Could be, although on my fat bike it wouldn’t be noticeable. I do find the Jones bar to be a little too extreme on the sweep, the Moloko’s are a bit more moderate in the sweep.
one of these bars is going on my 2023 Surly Ice cream truck.. l know the Moloko Bar from my Surly ECR and it is perfect.. better than the Jones Bar because it is wider and comfy.. l am interested in the Corner bar because l love drop bars on my gravel bike
I had the moloko on a hybrid bike with 45c gravel tyre, I felt that the sweep could be even less. One can get used to it but it is not very comfy, at least ten degrees less will make it more comfortable and useful, for me. Not very confidence inspiring on downhill. Also, Moloko is extremely position sensitive, the stem length, degree of placement, height have to be just right for a user to find any comfort on Moloko. Went back to a basic flat bar with two bar end grips for when I want a different position, and it is laughably easier to live with.
I would agree with all of this, it’s definitely a great casual type bar but if you are looking for performance and responsiveness, not the best. I have a review coming soon on the new Wren Perseverance bar, I think it nails it on utility and performance, so check that out.
I am from Russia (north Russia to be precise). Have found a way to buy Corner bar to use it for my touring adventures. Now waiting to receive it. Thanks for content!
Here is my fat bike playlist!
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Great video. I've been wanting to make my 2018 Trek Marlin 5 a light trail bike with the ability to ride quick on hard pack surfaces. I'm definitely going with the Corner Bars. Your video was informative and answered a lot of my concerns. Thank you.
Glad it helped! I am still running them full time on my Salsa Beargrease, and enjoying them.
Nice overview, good content! The moloko bars with the bag look sharp!
Great fit for the Pugs Ops!
Thanks for the detailed comparison, just the video i was looking for!
Awesome, thanks for watching!
That was a great comparison both sound like great choices for different reasons !! Love your power pack content.
Thanks for watching!
Wow, tons of info ! Love it. Moloko bars sound perfect for me. Thanks so much !!
Thanks for watching! They are both great, but yeah the Moloko definitely offers a lot of utility!!
The Greased Bear with the tri bar looks wild. The slackness and the 1.5" drop the bar gives must make it awesome on the descents.
Thanks! Yeah yeah it Carrie’s speed quite well going downhill, and with the aggressive tires it really roars. Can’t wait to really put it to the test this year on some trips where I can use it to explore on extended day rides from camp.
Check out Chino Hills State Park. It has a a campsite and an amazing trail system. It also connects to Huntington Beach via the Santa Ana River Bike Trail.
@@EntropyOCD thanks for the heads up! Added to my long list of parks to do!!
@@EntropyOCD Didn't know about said state park when I was still living in SoCal (born and raised there); cool thing to know though(!). I was more a local at Crystal Cove State Park (aka El Morro), Alta Laguna park in Laguna Beach, and the Cleavland National 'Forest' in S. Orange County. San Diego has a chunk of said 'forest' too.
Great review and comparison, i like them both!
Both definitely have merit! Thanks for watching!!
I guess I have to decide which one to go with. I'm converting a vintage mountain bike to a gravel/tour/adventure bike .
Thanks for the review..
Both are great in different ways so it really depends on what your application is.
That was a good and knowledgable video very interesting keep them coming give you a thumbs up
Much appreciated!
Amazing job with your review thank you very much it helped so much I would love to see how you taped your Moloka bars.
Thanks much appreciated! Actually still haven’t taped them up yet, on my to-do list for sure this spring!
That Surly green is rad! 🫵🏻🚴🏼🚴🏼🚴🏼🫡
@@ellerybice3787 Yeah it is a super cool
Color for sure!
Thanks for your video!
I’ve watched it a couple of times.
My question is what kind of “shims” did you use to get your aero bars to stay in place being the Corner Bar is very skinny!
Thanks in advance!
Thanks for watching! The Profile Designs bars came with shims to make it compatible with the smaller bar diameter of the Corner Bar.
I run the Moloko bars with the horns fully taped; comfy and gives you more grip using them like bar-ends and more comfortable when on smoother stretches/windy bits. Use the main grips in sketchier traffic or terrain scenarios,for quick hand/arm relief in long rides, and when doing grocery runs using my hiking backpack. The Ergons I use are the GA2s; don't care for the 'winged' Ergons as much.
Yeah I need to get mine taped up to maximize the comfort for sure. I’m still liking the ESI grips so hopefully can find some tape to match. Thanks for watching!
What make and model for the aero bars? Thank you for the videos on the corner bars
@@thomashendron4356 they are Profile Design bars, honestly I can’t remember the specific model, they were an all Aluminium version and fairly affordable. You’ll just want to make sure they have the shims (or adjustment) necessary to clamp to the Corner Bars
I thought I was the only one who put the levers and the shifters on the drops of the corner bar and not the hoods, as most if not all of the videos I've seen with Surly corner bar set ups put them on the hood. It just makes more sense for them to be on the drops and results in a more ergonomic hand position.
Yeah I definitely found them to be best on the drop side, I am still using this setup as-is here and loving it!
@@ElevationEveryWeekend did you have a problem with brake hose length being too stretched? Thinking of changing mine because it was just too tense when I initially put the lever on the hood. Its current drop position is less stretched but still planning to change it because I wanted my bar to rise a bit more. I ride a salsa journeyer with it.
@@jeffersonchua5396 I didn’t have any issues on the cable lengths, they were probably a little long from the factory though.
Thanks for the video. Can you put aerobars in the corner? I thought you could not
Yes for the Corner bar, no for the Moloko. Thanks for watching!
Hi, great video. Can you share: did you have to change cable lengths where you mounted the controls on the corner bar? Thanks, Jim
I did not have to modify anything with the cables. I did add one small zip tie (very loosely to not obstruct movement) to one of the cables on the left just to keep it together with the other cable on the left side to clean things up a bit. Thanks for watching!
Have you a video with saddles for bikepacking or Long rides??
I did a more general saddle video recently, but definitely would apply to your question:
th-cam.com/video/1PdE8s_8xBw/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for this very informative video. It’s exactly that what I was looking for. I’ll assemble a Salsa Fargo and can’t decide which handlebar would be more suitable for this bike. I plan to ride along the former inner border in Germany. The terrain is super steep and on the old military way. Any recommendations? Actually, I ordered the Corner Bar, but I wonder if the Moloko is better for this technical and rough terrain.
The Corner Bar is actually capable of some light tech riding (compared to pretty much any other drop bar on the market), due to the width of the bars. So depending on your specific terrain it may do the job (as “technical terrain” can mean many different things). I would not want it for faster single track type terrain, or extremely low speed terrain where lots of input to the bars is necessary. Hopefully you can try them and return them if they are not for you. Thanks for watching!!
How hard is it to attach aerobars to the moloko bars? Would it be harder than the corner bars?
It was super easy to attach them, I did need to use spacers supplied by Profile Designs to fit the smaller bar diameter of the Corner Bar. I would not add aero bars to the Moloko Bar, and I believe Surly explicitly states they should not be used too.
can you easily mount mtb components to the moloko?
If you mean the brake levers and shifters, then yes, they are sized like any standard MTB flat bar.
I wonder if the moloko bar dampens the ride better than the Jones bar since its made from steel
Could be, although on my fat bike it wouldn’t be noticeable. I do find the Jones bar to be a little too extreme on the sweep, the Moloko’s are a bit more moderate in the sweep.
one of these bars is going on my 2023 Surly Ice cream truck.. l know the Moloko Bar from my Surly ECR and it is perfect.. better than the Jones Bar because it is wider and comfy.. l am interested in the Corner bar because l love drop bars on my gravel bike
Both of these are really good. I also recommend the Wren Perseverance bar, which is what is on my ICT right now.
Any thoughts on the velo crazy bars?
They look pretty good, but I have never tried them.
I had the moloko on a hybrid bike with 45c gravel tyre, I felt that the sweep could be even less. One can get used to it but it is not very comfy, at least ten degrees less will make it more comfortable and useful, for me. Not very confidence inspiring on downhill.
Also, Moloko is extremely position sensitive, the stem length, degree of placement, height have to be just right for a user to find any comfort on Moloko.
Went back to a basic flat bar with two bar end grips for when I want a different position, and it is laughably easier to live with.
I would agree with all of this, it’s definitely a great casual type bar but if you are looking for performance and responsiveness, not the best. I have a review coming soon on the new Wren Perseverance bar, I think it nails it on utility and performance, so check that out.
Have u tried ergon grips for either bars
I haven’t, I’ve been using ESI grips the last couple years, but I imagine the Ergon grips would work well too
Which better
If I had to pick one I would choose the Corner Bar, but they do different things
so we need combined bar between the two
I am from Russia (north Russia to be precise). Have found a way to buy Corner bar to use it for my touring adventures. Now waiting to receive it. Thanks for content!
I’m still a huge fan of it!
Liked and subscribed
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
Fun fact: „Moloko“ is russian for milk…
I did not know that!