"Using Your Mind to Improve Your Time" - with Dave DiCenso
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Renowned drummer and professor at Berklee College of Music, Dave DiCenso shows us a method of mastering time through cognitive awareness using the counting disciplines offered in his book 'Rhythm and Drumming Demystified'.
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In this video, I share some of my original concepts and methods which represent a culmination of decades of work. I will show you how to develop what I call "Pulse-Space-Shape Awareness", to deepen your understanding, internalization, and execution of time. I will also show you how my methods force you to develop and expand what I call your "Aural-Cerebral Coordination", which improves our ability to hear outside of what we are playing, which, in turn, helps us to play, compose, and improvise more musically.
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This is a hall of fame TH-cam video. Right up there with the best videos ever authored on time and rhythm
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My ALL-TIME favorite drummer.
Seeing a video by Dave coming up in your feed feels like Christmas.
For me…one of the best and more inspiring drummer of all time. Great technique, musicality and musical mind. Simply awesome
Dave D is a genius. He’s Like a mad scientist on the drums.
Dear Dave, this concept is so stricking simple. BUT nevertheless it took me an awfull amount of work to get into this. I never faced a learning process on an instrument that demanded so much concentration and patience. During the first days i had to stop almost a thousand times, because I had started much too fast. Or got faster automaticly. That may sound like having a hard time full of anger and frustration - but that absolutely was'nt
the case. Why? Because right from the start i felt that this was the thing that i was looking for for a long time. Allthough i had gained some solid abilities as a drummer and musician over the years, there was something that i felt i was missing - but somehow i wasn:t able to describe it. I could play nice grooves but often felt a gap between my playing and me. Another problem was for me to glide smoothly through some real badass 32nds Fillin. Everything was nice and done well and my bandmates were happy - but again I wasn't completely absorbed in it. Hm, not easy to explain... but when i took a look at your concept and started playing a simple straight 8ths pop groove while vocalizing the 16ths subdivision, Everything changed and i felt immediately that I had found rhe missing link for me... so thank you a lot Dave - you started my second "drummerlife"!
This is fantastic, Wolfgang! I'm happy for you! Thank you for sharing.
This discipline changed my life.
Serious teaching going on here.
Man...the way Dave teaches really speaks to my engineer mind.
One of my regrets is not seeing you live with TTS back in the day. The greatest drummer ever to take the stage in MA.
Always thought counting out loud was strictly for mega-beginners. 17 years into my drumming career, you have proved me wrong. Thank you!
Dave, the aproach you take at teaching is honest, clear and awesome. I thank you for taking the time you spent on making this video, it has been very helpful and inspiring. Be well. Greetings from Argentina!
Been putting off counting aloud for far too long now.
This is a good push to finally get something down, and in nice organized manner.
Cheers, Dave!!
Thank you for these Dave. You're a world class educator.
For those wondering, this method *does* work without the heavy Boston accent... just not quite as well.
How many drummers share this kind of knowledge;;; Sing sing sing whatever you play. every note out loud! DAVE DICENCO congratulations for sharing.
man , you are still the gnarliest badass I've ever seen dude... "vocalizing , subdividing time , pulse , space , and shape" believe it or not -- I drop in on your TH-cam a lot and see how much I can learn from you AND IM A FLIPPN GUITAR PLAYER --- But dude all those years ago when I had to get tight as a rythym GUITAR player fast to play ... and I CANT EVEN TELL YOU THE BENEFITS I had OF LEARNING ON THE JOB WHILE ON A STAGE WITH YOU AT THE CHANNEL , your lesson here today reminded of those days and how I would blatantly say to ppl YEA , no I'm pretty sure my drummers better than Neil Peart ... haaaaa ... but ya know the best thing I learned from you Dave was to really try hard not to talk SHIT and act like I deserved sum record deal , (it wasn't always easy to do that in bad karma , it wasn't easy to stay humble or grateful and I was young and very impressionable to be sure) it became much harder to be happy or grateful after you were gone... I love alec he's my brother but I don't know that I'dve been able to be humble grateful and happy without the example you set for everyone by remaining as such ... you were always smiling ... THAT TAUGHT ME ALOT DUDE NO SHIT... the opportunity to play in bad karma all those years ago was amazing for me , it gave me the confidence to form my own thing shortly after you left ... anyway , i never really got to tell you i was seriously immediately grateful for your patience and kindness during that brief moment I had when we were still bad karma ...
great lesson watched the whole thing ... muscle memory is born of the mind just like every damn thing in our perceived world... from the mind indeed DAVE ...
THANKS
Been putting off counting for awhile because I didn't think I needed to work on it... I'm thoroughly convinced this is what is missing in my drumming. Starting over on your book!
Amazing content Dave. Groove, inner time and listening skills are by far the hardest topic for me to teach. My students don't really want to spend enough time on rhythm and time awareness for 2 main reasons: they assume the have good time because they play the drums, and their ears are not yet developed to hear the difference between solid pocket and a work in progress. Your insights are without a doubt a huge step in the right direction and I thank you for it! God bless you! Keep it up!
Fantastic tutorial, I’m very excited to try applying these to my practicing. I feel like this is an expansion on some of Gary Chester’s concepts in “the new breed”. I always kind of overlooked the voice as the fifth limb concept (I sing the pulse but I never subdivide or accent the rhythmic shapes) but this explanation on the benefit of doing it really makes a lot of sense and I’ll be applying it from now on. Also considering ordering RADD after seeing this. So great.
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Thanks Dave! This video revamped my will to and interest in practicing.
Thank you Dave DiCenso,very down to earth ,true time,something we all can use and need...
Easily the most overlooked topic thats not taught or not well enough, brilliant work
Great!! I have this book, its incredible!! Thank you very much, this knowledge is very efficient for me.
Cranking up the resolution and subdivisions must also be accompanied by attention to the "big picture". That barline accent, that once every 8 bars accent, the "big picture" count is the harder one, and the most worthwhile when it comes to timekeeping. If you can just count the barline without any subdivisions, you're doing good.
This is absolutely amazing!! Not just for drummers, this has helped me with my keyboard and guitar playing too!
I just discovered Dave - and wow, just wow. Such a great drummer! About counting out loud, I totally subscribe to that! I’ve been “discovering” and focusing on Time since about a month back, and I do count out loud, that’s how I feel and put emphasis the pulse. Even more so playing fast: once I lose the pulse, it’s just 4 limbs racing independently and it’s a fast mess. :-) These exercises Dave shares seem like an even better thing than what i’ve been doing. Thanks Dave!
Your rapping is underrated. God bless you maestro, the world needs to catch up with your wisdom
Curiosity, Sonor & Nicko McBrain brought me here for the most part, and I wasn't at all surprised that the good Professor here is also a 'time keeper.' :)
I added on your book the discipline 4a and 5a with a pencil... :-)
Very very useful video, now i've understood better a lot of things...
One of the countless pieces of sage advice I got from from Dave at Berklee, which specifically relates to the material in this lesson is,
"If you can say it, you can play it".
I still use that credo to this very day.
Dave you're a living legend
best teacher i ever heard!!!
Good video...fifth limb voice concept is a Gary Chester New Breed idea starting back in 70s and 80s. It works!
Just started the book. It’s really fun but challenging! Thank you Dave
Beautifully said, especially your closing comment.
39 mins describes me in a nutshell- I've been looking this for a long time. Now the fun starts!
Thank you Dave! Very grateful to you for sharing :)
Fantastic lesson! Thank you Mr. Dicenso ;).
Cool lesson. I just ordered your "Rhythm and drumming demystified" and am excited to get it. Your other book "Universal rhythms is great too.
Fantastic. Thank you.
six people have nothing above the neck
noisyneil 8 now but absolutely agree.
11 now!
He's 2 Gods. God of Drum. God of Funk.
Soo limb-mind control? An intellectual concept of verbalizing an awareness of time while playing something else? I've had this book for a while. It's even complicated to hear it explained. Your amazing and complicated, thanks for these explinations. Definitely the most complicated material I've found so far, And I can finally decode some if it. Thanks
Listen up kids, this is probably the most important drum lesson you can get on drumming
Hey, great stuff!
i love everything you represent !!!! thank you so much dave !!!!
Excellent! I have been using (focusing) on 4 16ths!
Such excellent material. Thank you.
Hi Dave this is helpful .i played bass in Matt leff band ww we played a couple shows together glad your doing good happy holidays
That snare sound ♥️
absolutely love this video. great educational material here!!!!
I love this. Great stuff. Loving the book, man.
Glad to hear it!
Thank you so much for this video it makes a lot of sense and it's real practical in a music setting
This is incredible, thanks Dave!
We love you man - Thanks!!!
If i could, for sure, i'd love to have a few lessons with this guy.
Great lesson, reminds me of Gary Chester and his New Breed.
I appreciate this video a LOT! thank you!
Bernard Purdie at its highest level. Great Mr. Di Censo
Thanks a lot, Dave!
I'm learning so much, crazy
love this lesson!!!! thank you so much
He is amazing!!!
Best video EVER!! Dang!
As articulate with language as with music. Outstanding.
Great exercise. Thanks for sharing...
Goddamnit I love that man
Thank you for making this video. It helps me a lot to understand this book and extra disciplines.
You are the best!!
I just bought the book, and watching this video i thought that this should be the promo: 29:24 -30:59
this is freaking great
His performance at modern drummer 2006??? is the Shizzle!
29:00 lmfao
gotta love Dave. an absolute genius/mastermind. plan to involve all these concepts in my practice
30:25 can be applied to so many things. very wise words
37:40 damn
So good.
Hi Dave, what's your thought on the concept of letting your body motion dictate the time? I've heard some famous drummer advocating it but it seems contradict to your philosophy in this video. Also should I use a metronome when practicing this?
Gold.
Mind blown
monster player
I've replaced the 'and" with a one consonant word. I find the "d" in "and" is constructive to verbal flow. That and language is music and "one E And Ah" is just not that musical to me (and basically just becomes One E An Dah at faster speeds anyway) - aesthetically speaking. I've also replaced "One" with "Wah" and 'Four" with "Foe" - getting rid of all the consonants. It just rolls more for me personally.
I would Love to take some One on One lessons with Dave! Deep Stuff here and i' m lovin it. I have the First Book "Universal Rhythms" covering the Different "Clave" options with skeleton Figures and Pretty much the Same Counting/Clapping/Playing Approach. RADD seems , after watching this Video, like the younger Brother of UR, the One You should work in First...am i wrong? Has anybody some experience Teaching that System to beginners/intermediate Drum Students?
genius
Great book and great video Dave! I just had a question regarding page 44 , is there any reason that the paradiddles are mixed in the example of 16 bars? I mean, is it supposed to be random or is there a meaning to it that I missed. Thanks! All the best from Daniel
Also, how come most exercises are written in 2/4 rather than 4/4?
If I recall Dave told me in a lesson it was simply to save physical space and the amount of pages in the book
Dude must have used 100,000 words in those 42mins, emphasized with passion each and every one of them! Just like the subdivisions...
37:44
Italian origins !
Seemed so easy until nr 3.
Thanks!
shake that neck ! o yeah great dave
What is the name of that book?
Great video bye the way.
Rythm and drumming demystified.
What if you are a drummer who sings?
Mark Schwarting watch the whole video, this is addressed towards the end, I.e. You do it in practice until you can internalize it so you're not shouting when gigging.
I always thought time is a balls feeling 😀
God
Distant relative?????
let.s try with....and l want
Its called muscle memory. And practice your rudiments to a metronome. And its one e n a 2 e n so on. You should probably put the joint down. Because its all So much simpler.
Clearly you don't know who are you talking to. I think YOU should put your joint down, lol...
Muh Woobie since 1982.
unconscious
You lose the beat in your intro. Seriously?
Seeing a video by Dave coming up in your feed feels like Christmas.