I'm also 6'2" on an XL 2021 instinct, Was so freaked out when the reach numbers were released before I had the bike in my hands. However, riding it, it doesn't feel big. I echo your thoughts that it fits like a glove. Have had mine since April and its been the most fun bike I've owned. I have settled on Position 3 (Nuetral Geo, Progressive Shock) setting for terrain in my area and love that I can toss it in full slack on steeper terrain days and or even throw it in full steep mode on flat xc type days. The ride9 makes for such a wide range of adjustment and bike feel. My only regret is that I just couldn't afford the Carbon model. My A50 still provides enough fun even with the slight weight penalty. Absolute blast of a bike to ride. So nice to hear your review on how it stacks up against the rest of the pack. Cheers.
Hey late reply, how do you like the 21 A50? I’m looking at getting one second hand, but reviews are kinda scarce. I’m 6’1, probably looking for a large? What’s your input
Super stoked to see you guys get Rocky! I have a 2020 Instinct and absolutely love it. I tried several bikes and the Rocky was the one that immediately felt "right". The geo, the agility, the playfulness of the bike, all make for an incredibly capable package on any trail I ride.
You have an incredible channel. I love how you compare the bikes during the views and how detailed you’re able to describe and show the experience of riding the bike. Really helps out. Thanks.
I like that you talk about smooth climbing efficiency and tech climbing traction as two different things. I have this bike, LOVE IT, and you nailed the review. It is also cool the Rocky specs their bikes with parts that you actually want. Aside from putting a smaller chainring on for my Dad-legs, and adding Tannus inserts, I left it stock. Nothing else needed to be changed.
Bought an altitude and I'm about to turn it into a instinct. That along with the ride 9 and chain stay flip is like having 4 bikes in one. Excited to see how the instinct compares to the alitutde on the local terrorsled laps.
I have this bike. Upped the fork to a 160mm. Added the different shock mount for the Altitude and a Fox Float X2 160mm shock and now I have an "Institude!". Basically a 160/160mm Altitude. Since the Altitude and Instinct share the same frame, it's almost like getting 2 bikes in one. I switch back and forth depending on where I'm riding. Only takes me about 10 minutes to swap. Either way, Rockys are excellent and super fun to ride. Great review as always and excited that you're carrying them now!
I rode an alloy 50 a couple days this summer, I really wanted to love the bike as I do have and have had other RM bikes. I thought it was nice but I didn’t feel like I had to have it. Still looking. I had more fun on the Transition Scout. Ride on 🤘
I have a 21 Instinct C90 and setting 9 (steep/progressive) is my favorite by far. The bike is most balanced in this position IMO. Also a huge selling point is that the Instinct/Altitude frame is the same. 2 bikes in one👍🏻. I really love this bike and look forward to buying shock/fork at some point to swap to the Altitude. I also have a Ripley V4.
Hey Conner. This is great news. Great review as always. So I ended up buying a home in Santa Clara right near the trail entrance to Barrel Roll, Sidewinder, Precipice, etc. I now need a longer travel bike than my Transition Spur for the ST. George area. I am torn between a few bikes, and this Instinct and the Altitude are on the top of my list. My main goal is a bike that can climb really well as I will be riding right from my house up all these trails, and even over to and up Paradise Rim, over to Zen, etc. I am not a young man and just don't have the ability to climb like a young man so it is important to have a great climber, and something not too heavy as well. I could really use your expertise and experience with all the bikes you get to ride as to what couple you would recommend for riding up all the hills in the St. George area, and coming back down as well. I already have a 2021 SC Hightower that I want to leave here in Phoenix as it works great for the trails here. So other than the excellent Hightower, what are a couple of recommendations? Instinct? Altitude? Ripmo? How much travel do I really need? I am thinking 140 minimum, 160 maximum. Again, I am not a young man. Also, I love the Sentinel but, Both my Hightower and Spur are greyish and a dont want another greyish bike. And I just don't like that Honey colored one at all. Also, i think the aluminum versions are a little too heavy, (I do like the blue though). Oh, and I kinda got my eye on the 2022 Mondraker Foxy as well. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Thanks for the review. I'm a travel nurse and looking for a bike that can handle a wide variety of trails. I'm 54 y/o and a good rider. I'm not looking for big jumps and massive drops, just like to go fast and stable, rail some corner etc.... without being to bogged down on the more XC/ flow trails. I'll most likely be traveling Midwest, south, and south east states with my home base in Michigan. The Instinct sounds like it could be the bike. Wondering if you had any suggestions especially with availability? Love the channel, thanks.
Thanks for the kind words. The Instinct would be awesome for a fo everything bike if you're not getting after it on the DH. If you want a more stable bike, I"d recommend the SB130 or Hightower. The Instinct isn't the most stable option. It's the most fun on that list, though.
@@bikersedge Thanks for the advice man, I appreciate it. I'm assuming the shorter travel bikes Ripley, Tallboy, Stumpjumper, Optic etc.. wouldn't be the most versatile bike for a verity of trails.
@@terrymtbnurse4760 I think they’re as versatile. The force you to bring your A game on the tougher trails it they’re pretty damn fun on the easier ones.
Great review, and I love to see you riding the bobsled trail! I live near there, and it's good to know this bike can handle bobsled comfortably, because if it can handle that it can handle anything I could ever throw at it 😂 that trail scares me lol
Awesome video as always. I’ve narrowed my next bike down to either a Ripmo AF or an Alloy RM Instinct (probably Alloy 50). You mentioned the climbing differences between them which was very helpful. Any other thoughts on the comparative differences between these bikes? I’m guessing the Instinct is a little more poppy and the Ripmo a bit more plush?
Another great review. I ride a 2019 Chameleon 29er as my one and only bike and have no plans to replace it, but if I did, this bike would probably be at the very top of the list. You described me to a T when saying who it is for. Any plans for a hardtail review? Maybe a Growler??!
Conor, thanks again for another killer review of a bike I happen to be considering right now! You said you rode the Rocky in neutral and slack. Do you know how the steep settings affect progressivity/plushness? Which between Ripley and this is more plush? More comfortable? I’m 6’2 with 33-34” inseam
@@bikersedge good to know , I love watching your videos even though it makes me more confused on which full squish I want as my upgrade from my Hardtail. Just due to the fact that I am all over the place on which size bike I want to upgrade to . I still think I want like a one bike quiver dual suspension.
Great review! I currently have a 2020 instinct A50 and would like to try something else. I love the bike but it feels a bit too “weak” on more rowdy descents. I am looking at getting either a Devinci Troy Carbon Gx or the Hightower Carbon S build. What would you recommend?
@@Nittygame I bought the Devinci because it is cheaper and is a local company to me (live in quebec). I got the GX kit and I will be switching to XT for the brakes cuz I hate sram.
I just demoed a Pivot Switchblade. I found it to somehow be both plush and remarkably poppy. Is this similar to the instinct? Or is the instinct quite a bit firmer?
@@bikersedgeYa, in fact my 5'10" son test rode a used Large 2022 Instinct A30 29er today and it was a great fit. However, we put it on a scale and were surprised to see it weigh in at 36 lbs, which seems heavy to me. Any idea what that bike should weigh with original spec'd components?
Very different bikes. Tough to really pick one over the other. I think the sentinel fits my riding style better but it’s been a ton of fun riding the Instinct lately.
How would you compare the Instinct to the Revel Rascal as far as playfulness and climbing goes? Coming from dirt jumping, I'm the kind of rider to jump/jib off of everything I can. Seems like both bikes are fairly playful but the Revel Rascal might climb better.
It’s been so long since I’ve ridden the rascal. I don’t recall it being very playful. I think it might have a slight edge in the climbing department but if it does it’s so minimal.
The 130 goes a little harder when things get rough. That’s generally the style of riding I prefer. The Instinct was super fun on mellower trails and the jumps though.
Let me try this again,......I will be doing a lot of riding in ST. George and will be riding the bike from my house up to the tops of the trails there. With your knowledge of the trails there, which one of these bikes would you buy as the best all arounder for the area, and for riding to and from the trails, and all the ups and downs? (the hard part for me is the ups, I have no issues going down) Altitude Instinct alloy Sentinal Occam Rallon Ripmo Hightower Something else?
There are a couple options here. Personally, I like to ride the tougher trails (Grafton and Hurricane Area). I want a bigger burlier bike for that kind of stuff. I think the Sentinel is perfect for being able to ride every trail in the area. It will still be fun on the easier stuff too. You'll pay a bit of a climbing penalty, though. If you're avoiding the bigger trails and mostly sticking to the Santa Clara stuff, I think an Occam, Trance X, Instinct, or Ripmo would be great. You could even get away with a Ripley or Tallboy if you're not getting after it on the DH. Those will climb better but will sacrifice DH capability.
@@bikersedge ,....Thanks Conner, I appreciate it. So yes, I will ride the tougher trails occasionally, but mostly will just ride from my house, up into the stuff in Santa Clara. So for me the climbing is most important, especially when it is hot. As I said, I know all these bike will go down hill great, but I am looking for the one that stands out on the uphill's, as that is the hardest part for me. The Spur works great, I just get a little over my head at times with how good that bike goes downhill, and just want a littlie more forgiveness on the steeper more rocky stuff. Without getting to ride any of these bikes before we buy, we have to try to pick the brains of guys like you who have ridden many different bikes as to which one dose these certain things the best. So I apologize for all the questions, but I feel you are an excellent discerner of these things, especially as you have ridden these very trails. So, let me ask you this, if you were kinda sick one day, and had to pedal uphill a lot when you weren't feeling 100%, which one of these would you grab that day?
@@bikersedge ,.....Hahahaha,.....Thank you sir. And thanks again, for making absolutely awesome videos. Looking forward to the next one. I sure love the green on green of the 2022 Altitude. I am going to wait to see what you think of the Altitudes climbing prowess before I buy anything. I am wondering if the smartest move would be to get the green Altitude and make it into an instinct if it climbs too hard for me. (you gotta love the way your bike looks). Its either that or I am going with an Occam LT.
Personally I wouldn’t. The seat tube angle is going to probably be slacker than you want. If you want/need more capability then Altitude would maybe be a better option.
Test the new R.M. Element please!!!! Trying to decide between element, ripley AF, spur ir izzo. From Illinois so not any mountains, its more XC trails but I like to jump stuff still at the local jump parks.
@@bikersedge thanks bro! Great content BTW, I've watched a ridiculous amount of product reviews from motocross, paintball and anything else I've ever purchased. I like your style and detailed reviews. Seems to me like you get to spend more time on the bikes than other reviewers to extract those details.
Not sure if you are still looking, but I had the Ripley AF and I own the Element C50. Both are very good bikes. I sold my AF as they were both too close in capability. The AF is more efficient with less pedal bob, but the Element is better in steeper, loose, and rocky terrain when climbing, as it has more traction. You do feel the weight of the AF when climbing. I think the AF goes downhill better. The Element is more balanced when jumping and in the air. Both are great bikes, I just sold my AF as I do prefer the Element. My AF was the NX/GX with a few upgrades. To me the 35mm wheels don't belong on the AF. Too much wheel for the bike. You do feel the long wheelbase of the Element but most of the time that is a good thing. When climbing steep terrain, the front wheel doesn't come off the ground as much on the Element and you don't have to scoot forward to the nose of the seat as much. So much traction on that Element., The AF does the downhills better overall. I am riding my Element in the neutral position 3. Haven't tried any of the other settings.
@@lazylearner967 thanks for the feedback I appreciate it. I can see your analytical like I am. I seem to notice so much stuff that guys I ride with dont care or notice! I'm still looking since nothing is available in our area. IBIS had significant price hikes again where an slx AF puts you in a carbon rocky or trek top fuel pricepoint (the bikes i probably have the most access to here where i live).
@@epicprojectschris7050 ah yeah. That’s a good point - it’s only possible on carbon. You could get halfway there with the stock shock and a bigger fork.
how's the wheelbase vs, say, the sentinel---with an eye toward unavoidable slo-tech riding at least part of the time? up big rocks, off big rocks because they entire area is big rocks...
@@bikersedge and by the same metric, instinct over altitude for that mixed riding with plenty of slo, rocky, slippery stuff, i wold guess. good work. keep up the informative vids. cheers.
Ok I though you guys were a dealer, so maybe had one in stock at some point. It’s hard to get many details on weights for some reason, I live in the Carolinas and not any Rocky dealers near me. Love the channel and reviews. I reached out to Rocky by email and they couldn’t tell me either?
We are a dealer. It's not something we keep on record for every bike that comes through the door, though. If it helps, I'd imagine the A50 is in the 32-36 range.
I respect RM rigs. Could never afford a FS rig from'em. Carbon has been around since 1983, and it keeps getting more expensive. Someone(the carbon manufacturer), is making a huge profit. And most carbon frames of brands,, are built at the very same facilities in China. And if China can sell these carbon frames for a few hundred dollars, then what is it with the over one-thousand dollar deals? Ya not saving much on weight nor comfort, getting carbon. If ya weigh over 200 pounds, you'll break the carbon. thank RM, for making the Growler 20. Affordable. And now less than the GT Zaskar LT. Problem is, everyone is out-of-stock. Gonna be the same as 2020 & 2021, with inventory.
Excellent review as always. And congrats on the upcoming family addition!
Hey thanks! Going to have two little shredders in the house now.
So stoked you guys are carrying Rocky Mountain!!!! It's about time we have a RM dealer in Davis County!
We couldn’t be more excited. It’s going to be so good.
I'm also 6'2" on an XL 2021 instinct, Was so freaked out when the reach numbers were released before I had the bike in my hands. However, riding it, it doesn't feel big. I echo your thoughts that it fits like a glove. Have had mine since April and its been the most fun bike I've owned. I have settled on Position 3 (Nuetral Geo, Progressive Shock) setting for terrain in my area and love that I can toss it in full slack on steeper terrain days and or even throw it in full steep mode on flat xc type days. The ride9 makes for such a wide range of adjustment and bike feel. My only regret is that I just couldn't afford the Carbon model. My A50 still provides enough fun even with the slight weight penalty. Absolute blast of a bike to ride. So nice to hear your review on how it stacks up against the rest of the pack. Cheers.
Exactly how I set mine up too.
Hey late reply, how do you like the 21 A50? I’m looking at getting one second hand, but reviews are kinda scarce. I’m 6’1, probably looking for a large? What’s your input
Super stoked to see you guys get Rocky! I have a 2020 Instinct and absolutely love it. I tried several bikes and the Rocky was the one that immediately felt "right". The geo, the agility, the playfulness of the bike, all make for an incredibly capable package on any trail I ride.
Such a sick bike. Stoked to get more time on the rest of their bikes.
You have an incredible channel. I love how you compare the bikes during the views and how detailed you’re able to describe and show the experience of riding the bike.
Really helps out. Thanks.
Thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate that.
@@bikersedge Really helps to dial in the feeling/personalities of each bike. Feeling more confident in the big purchase now :)
I like that you talk about smooth climbing efficiency and tech climbing traction as two different things. I have this bike, LOVE IT, and you nailed the review. It is also cool the Rocky specs their bikes with parts that you actually want. Aside from putting a smaller chainring on for my Dad-legs, and adding Tannus inserts, I left it stock. Nothing else needed to be changed.
Most people would want Grip2 over Fit4.
Bought an altitude and I'm about to turn it into a instinct. That along with the ride 9 and chain stay flip is like having 4 bikes in one. Excited to see how the instinct compares to the alitutde on the local terrorsled laps.
I have this bike. Upped the fork to a 160mm. Added the different shock mount for the Altitude and a Fox Float X2 160mm shock and now I have an "Institude!". Basically a 160/160mm Altitude. Since the Altitude and Instinct share the same frame, it's almost like getting 2 bikes in one. I switch back and forth depending on where I'm riding. Only takes me about 10 minutes to swap. Either way, Rockys are excellent and super fun to ride. Great review as always and excited that you're carrying them now!
I’m stoked to get some time on the Altitude next. It’s cool you can swap back and forth fairly easily.
How much did this change the wheelbase?
do you need the carbon version to do it ?
I rode an alloy 50 a couple days this summer, I really wanted to love the bike as I do have and have had other RM bikes. I thought it was nice but I didn’t feel like I had to have it. Still looking. I had more fun on the Transition Scout.
Ride on 🤘
I have a 21 Instinct C90 and setting 9 (steep/progressive) is my favorite by far. The bike is most balanced in this position IMO. Also a huge selling point is that the Instinct/Altitude frame is the same. 2 bikes in one👍🏻. I really love this bike and look forward to buying shock/fork at some point to swap to the Altitude. I also have a Ripley V4.
I’ve been riding so many slack bikes lately I had to throw this one is slack mode to feel at home. Really cool and versatile bike.
How does your Instinct compare to your Ripley? Which one climbs better and corners better?
Hey Conner not going to lie, I think doing it this was was more informative then when your on the bike . Just my 2 cents
Awesome video! Didn’t even need the ride audio! Great quality review! 🤙🏼
Hey thanks. Glad you liked it!
Hey Conner. This is great news. Great review as always.
So I ended up buying a home in Santa Clara right near the trail entrance to Barrel Roll, Sidewinder, Precipice, etc. I now need a longer travel bike than my Transition Spur for the ST. George area. I am torn between a few bikes, and this Instinct and the Altitude are on the top of my list.
My main goal is a bike that can climb really well as I will be riding right from my house up all these trails, and even over to and up Paradise Rim, over to Zen, etc. I am not a young man and just don't have the ability to climb like a young man so it is important to have a great climber, and something not too heavy as well.
I could really use your expertise and experience with all the bikes you get to ride as to what couple you would recommend for riding up all the hills in the St. George area, and coming back down as well. I already have a 2021 SC Hightower that I want to leave here in Phoenix as it works great for the trails here. So other than the excellent Hightower, what are a couple of recommendations? Instinct? Altitude? Ripmo? How much travel do I really need? I am thinking 140 minimum, 160 maximum. Again, I am not a young man.
Also, I love the Sentinel but, Both my Hightower and Spur are greyish and a dont want another greyish bike. And I just don't like that Honey colored one at all. Also, i think the aluminum versions are a little too heavy, (I do like the blue though). Oh, and I kinda got my eye on the 2022 Mondraker Foxy as well.
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Oh, and do you have any idea when the 2022 Rocky's will be available?
We will start receiving bikes at the start of the year. They should be trickling in all year.
Thanks for the review. I'm a travel nurse and looking for a bike that can handle a wide variety of trails. I'm 54 y/o and a good rider. I'm not looking for big jumps and massive drops, just like to go fast and stable, rail some corner etc.... without being to bogged down on the more XC/ flow trails. I'll most likely be traveling Midwest, south, and south east states with my home base in Michigan. The Instinct sounds like it could be the bike. Wondering if you had any suggestions especially with availability? Love the channel, thanks.
Thanks for the kind words.
The Instinct would be awesome for a fo everything bike if you're not getting after it on the DH. If you want a more stable bike, I"d recommend the SB130 or Hightower. The Instinct isn't the most stable option. It's the most fun on that list, though.
@@bikersedge Thanks for the advice man, I appreciate it. I'm assuming the shorter travel bikes Ripley, Tallboy, Stumpjumper, Optic etc.. wouldn't be the most versatile bike for a verity of trails.
@@terrymtbnurse4760 I think they’re as versatile. The force you to bring your A game on the tougher trails it they’re pretty damn fun on the easier ones.
That trail looks like a paradise!
It’s pretty solid. Lucky to have it in the backyard.
Ya, where is this trail. I couldn’t listen and follow the line, that looked too fun!
I gotta be honest. I wanna see more Rocky Mountain reviews. Element and Altitude deserve some love even though I’m rocking the Instinct
We’ve got reviews of both of those too!
Great review, and I love to see you riding the bobsled trail! I live near there, and it's good to know this bike can handle bobsled comfortably, because if it can handle that it can handle anything I could ever throw at it 😂 that trail scares me lol
Yeah it's more than capable of bobsled. Great bike.
This review sold me on buying one, and it's a really fun bike to ride.
Rad! Glad you found it helpful.
Awesome video as always. I’ve narrowed my next bike down to either a Ripmo AF or an Alloy RM Instinct (probably Alloy 50). You mentioned the climbing differences between them which was very helpful. Any other thoughts on the comparative differences between these bikes? I’m guessing the Instinct is a little more poppy and the Ripmo a bit more plush?
You pretty much nailed it right on the head with your guess.
I was on the line with this bike and the Ripmo!? I could not find a Rocky so I went Ripmo V2 and i'm very happy with it so far!
Just got this bike today! Can't wait to get out on it!!
Enjoy!
Another great review. I ride a 2019 Chameleon 29er as my one and only bike and have no plans to replace it, but if I did, this bike would probably be at the very top of the list. You described me to a T when saying who it is for. Any plans for a hardtail review? Maybe a Growler??!
It’s a really fun bike. You’d probably love it. If I can get a growler I’ll do it.
Love your content - keep it coming!!
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you enjoy it.
Conor, thanks again for another killer review of a bike I happen to be considering right now! You said you rode the Rocky in neutral and slack. Do you know how the steep settings affect progressivity/plushness? Which between Ripley and this is more plush? More comfortable?
I’m 6’2 with 33-34” inseam
This one is always going to feel more plush than the Ripley. It has quite a bit more travel and burlier components and tires.
Is that a frame strap with a BOA closure? I need one. Great vid mate, I picked up a '21 c70 in October and love it!
Yes. It's an Occam Designs strap. Use some frame protection if you put it around the frame.
That’s very good to know about Rocky Mountain!! Theses where some big words said
It's such a fun bike!
@@bikersedge good to know , I love watching your videos even though it makes me more confused on which full squish I want as my upgrade from my Hardtail. Just due to the fact that I am all over the place on which size bike I want to upgrade to . I still think I want like a one bike quiver dual suspension.
@@claytonjessup6163 glad you like the videos. Have you seen our what type of MTB should you buy video? That could help.
Best reviews on the interweb!
Thanks for the kind words. That’s huge!
My bike must be pretty old now. Rented one of these recently. Felt unbelievably plush. I guess old school VPP makes anything feel active.
For me, the most fun 29er is the Evil Following V3.
Great review! I currently have a 2020 instinct A50 and would like to try something else. I love the bike but it feels a bit too “weak” on more rowdy descents. I am looking at getting either a Devinci Troy Carbon Gx or the Hightower Carbon S build. What would you recommend?
Hi I am looking to get one of these bikes did u decide on one ? Which one is better between the Troy C Gx and Hightower C S build?
@@Nittygame I bought the Devinci because it is cheaper and is a local company to me (live in quebec). I got the GX kit and I will be switching to XT for the brakes cuz I hate sram.
I'm so torn on wich bike to get!! Instinct vs Element?? Element is the better climber right?
Much better climber. It feels way more XC both up and down.
I just demoed a Pivot Switchblade. I found it to somehow be both plush and remarkably poppy. Is this similar to the instinct? Or is the instinct quite a bit firmer?
Not sure. We don’t carry pivot at the shop and I haven’t ridden one for years.
Great vid. I'm looking to buy one fot my son. He is 5'10. Would you recommend a Large or XL?
Cheers
He’s right in the middle of the L size range.
@@bikersedgeYa, in fact my 5'10" son test rode a used Large 2022 Instinct A30 29er today and it was a great fit. However, we put it on a scale and were surprised to see it weigh in at 36 lbs, which seems heavy to me. Any idea what that bike should weigh with original spec'd components?
@roblake9856 that sounds about right for an alloy bike in this category.
Congrats on adding Rocky Mountain to your stable! How soon until you have these in stock?
Hey thanks. Looks like we will be getting bikes at the start of the year.
Do you like the Rocky Instinct better than the Transition Sentinel?
Very different bikes. Tough to really pick one over the other. I think the sentinel fits my riding style better but it’s been a ton of fun riding the Instinct lately.
I may have missed it but I'll ask anyways . Which model of the instinct is this ? There is 10-90
It’s a C70. I don’t normally talk much about the components so I don’t normally mention the model unless it’s relevant to something in the video.
@@bikersedge no worries and thank you for the review . Very insightful since I am on the hunt for a full suspension bike ..
@@midlifemtber2888 of course. Hopefully it was helpful.
How would you compare the Instinct to the Revel Rascal as far as playfulness and climbing goes? Coming from dirt jumping, I'm the kind of rider to jump/jib off of everything I can. Seems like both bikes are fairly playful but the Revel Rascal might climb better.
It’s been so long since I’ve ridden the rascal. I don’t recall it being very playful. I think it might have a slight edge in the climbing department but if it does it’s so minimal.
@@bikersedge thanks for the reply!
I have a strange question...what brand is that hoody?
Backcountry
I like the voice over style. Happy accident.
It’s certainly easier for me to do. I crash way less this way. Ha.
SB130LR vs the Instinct? Which one are you reaching for?
The 130 goes a little harder when things get rough. That’s generally the style of riding I prefer. The Instinct was super fun on mellower trails and the jumps though.
That trail looks pretty fun. Where is that?
Bobsled
I had a 2019 Instinct BC but sold it about 6 months ago, should i buy an SB 130 T-2 XO 2022?
They’re pretty similar. I’d say the Yeti is a bit more about speed and the Instinct is more about fun.
Wish it came with a GRIP 2 damper.
I’m with you on that one. Even just the Performance level Grip would be nice.
Is this a carbon or aluminum bike?
It comes in both. The version I rode was carbon.
Let me try this again,......I will be doing a lot of riding in ST. George and will be riding the bike from my house up to the tops of the trails there. With your knowledge of the trails there, which one of these bikes would you buy as the best all arounder for the area, and for riding to and from the trails, and all the ups and downs? (the hard part for me is the ups, I have no issues going down)
Altitude
Instinct
alloy Sentinal
Occam
Rallon
Ripmo
Hightower
Something else?
There are a couple options here. Personally, I like to ride the tougher trails (Grafton and Hurricane Area). I want a bigger burlier bike for that kind of stuff. I think the Sentinel is perfect for being able to ride every trail in the area. It will still be fun on the easier stuff too. You'll pay a bit of a climbing penalty, though. If you're avoiding the bigger trails and mostly sticking to the Santa Clara stuff, I think an Occam, Trance X, Instinct, or Ripmo would be great. You could even get away with a Ripley or Tallboy if you're not getting after it on the DH. Those will climb better but will sacrifice DH capability.
@@bikersedge ,....Thanks Conner, I appreciate it. So yes, I will ride the tougher trails occasionally, but mostly will just ride from my house, up into the stuff in Santa Clara. So for me the climbing is most important, especially when it is hot. As I said, I know all these bike will go down hill great, but I am looking for the one that stands out on the uphill's, as that is the hardest part for me.
The Spur works great, I just get a little over my head at times with how good that bike goes downhill, and just want a littlie more forgiveness on the steeper more rocky stuff. Without getting to ride any of these bikes before we buy, we have to try to pick the brains of guys like you who have ridden many different bikes as to which one dose these certain things the best. So I apologize for all the questions, but I feel you are an excellent discerner of these things, especially as you have ridden these very trails.
So, let me ask you this, if you were kinda sick one day, and had to pedal uphill a lot when you weren't feeling 100%, which one of these would you grab that day?
@@tonybasoni8443 Man if I was sick, I'd take an eMTB. If it has to be analog, the Occam is the best climber on your list.
@@bikersedge ,.....Hahahaha,.....Thank you sir. And thanks again, for making absolutely awesome videos. Looking forward to the next one. I sure love the green on green of the 2022 Altitude. I am going to wait to see what you think of the Altitudes climbing prowess before I buy anything. I am wondering if the smartest move would be to get the green Altitude and make it into an instinct if it climbs too hard for me. (you gotta love the way your bike looks). Its either that or I am going with an Occam LT.
Nice you guys got RM. I’m building up a 2022 Element. 🤘
Nice. Stoked to ride one of those soon.
@@bikersedge would be great to know your thoughts between Spur vs Element once you get a chance to test ride the Element.
@@bikersedge any update on this, would love the review!
@@marcinkossakowski4737 still haven’t been able to get an element.
Really hope the element is next haven’t seen any hands on reviews yet and I want one lol
As soon as I can get one I’ll make a video.
What are your thoughts on swapping the fork for a 160mm?
Personally I wouldn’t. The seat tube angle is going to probably be slacker than you want. If you want/need more capability then Altitude would maybe be a better option.
@@bikersedge do you think the slacker seat angle coule be resolved with the ride 9 system?
@@samchoi2385 at some point it can’t get steeper with ride 9. And then you’re counteracting a lot of what you’d be doing by going to 160.
@@bikersedge thank you for your thoughts!
Would you tell me where this trail was filmed?
Bobsled
How does it compare to Evil’s Offering as far as the fun factor is concerned?
Haven’t ridden the Evil. Can’t really say.
Wasnt there a 120mm travel Rocky released recently?
Yes. The element. We will be doing a review as soon as we can get one.
Please review the RM Element also!!!
As soon as I can get one I will.
I got a 2022 instinct a30 that I buy to build around with some part I like but I’m stuck in between a fox x2 or a coil ? Some one can help me ?
I’d run an air shock on this bike to get the most out of it. I’d be worried the coil would take away from what makes this bike so special.
Test the new R.M. Element please!!!! Trying to decide between element, ripley AF, spur ir izzo. From Illinois so not any mountains, its more XC trails but I like to jump stuff still at the local jump parks.
If I can get my hands on one I will.
@@bikersedge thanks bro! Great content BTW, I've watched a ridiculous amount of product reviews from motocross, paintball and anything else I've ever purchased. I like your style and detailed reviews. Seems to me like you get to spend more time on the bikes than other reviewers to extract those details.
@@D1PP1N Stoked you like the videos!
Not sure if you are still looking, but I had the Ripley AF and I own the Element C50. Both are very good bikes. I sold my AF as they were both too close in capability. The AF is more efficient with less pedal bob, but the Element is better in steeper, loose, and rocky terrain when climbing, as it has more traction. You do feel the weight of the AF when climbing. I think the AF goes downhill better. The Element is more balanced when jumping and in the air. Both are great bikes, I just sold my AF as I do prefer the Element. My AF was the NX/GX with a few upgrades. To me the 35mm wheels don't belong on the AF. Too much wheel for the bike. You do feel the long wheelbase of the Element but most of the time that is a good thing. When climbing steep terrain, the front wheel doesn't come off the ground as much on the Element and you don't have to scoot forward to the nose of the seat as much. So much traction on that Element., The AF does the downhills better overall. I am riding my Element in the neutral position 3. Haven't tried any of the other settings.
@@lazylearner967 thanks for the feedback I appreciate it. I can see your analytical like I am. I seem to notice so much stuff that guys I ride with dont care or notice! I'm still looking since nothing is available in our area. IBIS had significant price hikes again where an slx AF puts you in a carbon rocky or trek top fuel pricepoint (the bikes i probably have the most access to here where i live).
How do you always get to review bikes?
This is a bike shop channel. A lot of what I review comes from our demo fleet. Another big portion of it comes from media bikes from the brands.
* Nice review :) *
Hey thanks!
Probably a little late to this party but just bought one of these second hand dose anyone know what you need to swap to change to the altitude set up?
You'd need the altitude upper shock mount and the correct size shock for the altitude. You'd likely want to swap forks too.
@@bikersedge I got a a50 and the upper shock mount is welded …. Is the conversion only possible with a carbon frame
@@epicprojectschris7050 ah yeah. That’s a good point - it’s only possible on carbon. You could get halfway there with the stock shock and a bigger fork.
@@bikersedge well that sounds like a good option for the future… appreciate the advice and the videos
how do you compare this with trance x? thankssssssssss
It’s actually pretty close. It’s been a while since I’ve ridden the trance but I think they’re fairly similar.
how's the wheelbase vs, say, the sentinel---with an eye toward unavoidable slo-tech riding at least part of the time? up big rocks, off big rocks because they entire area is big rocks...
For that style of terrain I’d have to recommend this one over the Sentinel. Much more maneuverable.
@@bikersedge and by the same metric, instinct over altitude for that mixed riding with plenty of slo, rocky, slippery stuff, i wold guess. good work. keep up the informative vids. cheers.
@@lvirag8401 havent ridden the altitude yet. It’s in my garage ready to go though. Stay tuned.
Could you tell me what the 2023 A50 weight in XL? If anyone has one with the fox36 let me know I want one!
Thats not something I have. Maybe someone else here can help you out.
Ok I though you guys were a dealer, so maybe had one in stock at some point. It’s hard to get many details on weights for some reason, I live in the Carolinas and not any Rocky dealers near me. Love the channel and reviews. I reached out to Rocky by email and they couldn’t tell me either?
We are a dealer. It's not something we keep on record for every bike that comes through the door, though. If it helps, I'd imagine the A50 is in the 32-36 range.
Where are you riding in this video?
Bobsled.
@@bikersedge thank you for your response. Going to try to get there before the weather turns. Your videos are great.
@@scottbuxton5975 hey thanks. The trail is awesome right now. Go get it.
Its not ride 9 anymore , ride 4 adjustment
It’s still ride 9 on certain models. Only a few have gone to ride 4.
@@bikersedge yes . sorry for the mis information
I respect RM rigs. Could never afford a FS rig from'em. Carbon has been around since 1983, and it keeps getting more expensive. Someone(the carbon manufacturer), is making a huge profit. And most carbon frames of brands,, are built at the very same facilities in China. And if China can sell these carbon frames for a few hundred dollars, then what is it with the over one-thousand dollar deals? Ya not saving much on weight nor comfort, getting carbon. If ya weigh over 200 pounds, you'll break the carbon. thank RM, for making the Growler 20. Affordable. And now less than the GT Zaskar LT. Problem is, everyone is out-of-stock. Gonna be the same as 2020 & 2021, with inventory.
One of worst dollar for value brands on the market. They even cheap out on cranks…
Great bike, poopy rims.
Can't really say I love the rims either.