"But they must be destroyed" | How Rocky Mountain makes (and breaks) mountain bikes

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  • We visit Rocky Mountain's research and development lab on the North Shore of Vancouver, BC, to see what goes in to bringing a mountain bike from the drawing board to the trails.
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    00:00 - History lesson with Wade Simmons
    5:44 - Off topic?
    7:42 - Talking with Lyle about their testing process
    8:40 - Creating test bikes prior to development
    10:50 - Head tube flex machine
    12:15 - Breaking a frame
    15:03 - Head tube strength
    15:30 - Pedaling a bike to death on the pedal tester
    18:13 - Ebike test mules
    19:09 - Aligning frames on the alignment table
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  • @psclassy1123
    @psclassy1123 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wade Simmons put a riser bar on my new Kona Caldera in the 90s when he was at the Cove shop. He and I were the only ones in the shop that night chatting it up and he said he was in a bike film premiering that week downtown in Vancouver. He told me that he hopes this whole free riding thing he was involved in takes off and was a success. Cool to have meet him that way.

  • @dawnpoint
    @dawnpoint ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Obi-Wan is an incredible bike engineer.

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed. Who'da thunk!
      - Dan P.

    • @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes
      @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tell me you never get laid without actually telling me you never, and I mean never, get laid.

    • @mtbracer123
      @mtbracer123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxeshe said something funny why you hating

    • @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes
      @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mtbracer123 you kinda took that personally eh?

    • @mtbracer123
      @mtbracer123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes not really your just being a dick for no reason

  • @mug3l
    @mug3l ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Wade has enough energy for two people.

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He was great. Absolute character.
      Cheers - Dan P.

    • @iffy_too4289
      @iffy_too4289 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's like a Canadian Rob Warner!

  • @HUKIT.
    @HUKIT. ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That was pretty damn interesting, well done lads.

  • @segamethod
    @segamethod ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lyle's comments about how small or new manufacturers with just a few frames under their umbrella having a tough time resonates with me. I had a Revel Rascal for a few years, which was honestly a pretty great bike in a lot of ways, but suffered greatly from poor frame alignment and quality. The bearings ate themselves, it always made noise, it was way heavier than it should have been. I think Revel has a lot of potential, but in retrospect I should have known better than to buy one of their debut models.

  • @alexrobles6492
    @alexrobles6492 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video. Very interesting. 👍

  • @22corgis
    @22corgis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice to see what goes into making one of their bikes! I bought my first mtb, a RM Growler recently and it’s amazing I love bopping around town with it 😍

  • @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind
    @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I only have one rocky. A red 1991 Rocky Mountain Hammer.

  • @dirtwolfmtb
    @dirtwolfmtb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This sales guy makes me want to buy a Rocky just watching this video. Great video guys! Cool to see so much of the brains and work to make great bikes.

  • @guillaume.legrand8270
    @guillaume.legrand8270 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done! Very interesting video.
    What about the pain test for their carbon frame?

  • @believe8263
    @believe8263 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job Dan.

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
      - Dan P.

  • @averagejoe5653
    @averagejoe5653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!

  • @LalBikes1
    @LalBikes1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video all around. Fingers crossed Lyle doesn't join the dark side.

  • @impaledface7694
    @impaledface7694 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very cool. My most ridden rocky is an element 70 from 2009. Never let me down.

  • @twinshock175
    @twinshock175 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for that insider look to a process we all take for granted. I was just as laid back as you think, but serious enough to have confidence in a product. I have now more respect for their bikes after seeing this, and been looking at RM bikes too to upgrade in the future.

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! Lyle was a wealth of knowledge, it was cool getting to talk to him.
      Holler if you ever have any questions about the bikes!
      - Dan P.

  • @dems_mtb
    @dems_mtb ปีที่แล้ว

    great video!

  • @danandkiko
    @danandkiko ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So fascinating. Glad I watched this.

  • @Neanderstaal
    @Neanderstaal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I could listen to Lyle explain stuff all day long.

  • @bikeninja956
    @bikeninja956 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very fascinating exposé, my kinda thing..

  • @NoShredDad
    @NoShredDad 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Snapped a seat stay right at the rear axle last year on my 2018 RM a instinct A50. Rocky did warranty it, but it’s a common occurrence with RM rear triangles. I did love my RM thou.

  • @curtvaughan2836
    @curtvaughan2836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative - I wonder if most mass produced frames get thorough testing like this.

    • @ronnie2.039
      @ronnie2.039 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rocky Mountain are mass produced

    • @ih302
      @ih302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RM frames like basically every other company's frames are made in Asia, some of the best frames in the world come out of Taiwan. What you are seeing in this video is product development.

  • @bobsoft
    @bobsoft ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still own an old school Rocky Mountain Hammer in black. I also have a 2004 Balfa BB7 that was briefly owned by Rocky. Used to have a Blizzard that was hand built by Chris Dekerf.

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh dang. That's some real bike history right there!
      Cheers - Dan P.

  • @iffy_too4289
    @iffy_too4289 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    such an interesting video, thanks!

  • @corydalus981
    @corydalus981 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a Thunderbolt in the same Canadacentric paint scheme as seen at 0:33. I love the bike, and the look. In a sea of bikes that are black with accents in various neon colors, it really stands out.

    • @YouTubeOdyssey
      @YouTubeOdyssey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm in Wa. State, can you define " Canadacentric "?

    • @corydalus981
      @corydalus981 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TH-camOdyssey the red on white motif with the red maple leaves!

  • @Whateva67
    @Whateva67 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have an ‘01 Slayer, still has the original tires on it. Clearly I didn’t ride it enough. Looks good though and looks brand new. 😊

  • @mathewbascom1811
    @mathewbascom1811 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just bought my first rocky mountain 11 days ago, a growler, because I wanted a DH capable climbing bike for under 1k that I can play with and build over time. And because who wouldn't look like a psychopath showing up to the group ride on a hardtail with slacker geo than most fs rigs.😅🤙

  • @Themilkmanskid.
    @Themilkmanskid. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love doin' wheelies on my RM. It's a bit heavy for hours of wheelies, but I'm leaner than ever and old as dirt.

  • @DoctorDefiler
    @DoctorDefiler ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Uncle Wade!

  • @jjac72
    @jjac72 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought the rocky mountain fusion and upgraded few parts . Rm makes awesome bikes

  • @ssjj9584
    @ssjj9584 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought freeride originated in Laguna in late 70’s early 80’s with Laguna tech terrain and the Rads?

  • @ethanrevitch
    @ethanrevitch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hoo Koo E Koo Trail is right out my front door!

  • @ROSE-by5su
    @ROSE-by5su ปีที่แล้ว

    I have question, there are some bikes that are not like the main market let’s say a Slopestyle bike I have seen Rockymountain Slopestyle bike and it was really cool but of course they don’t sell it. What if companies just make it order to made or made to order something like that I would happy to wait

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you hit the nail on the head as to why they aren't mass produced-the brand doesn't see enough of a market for them. That said, these types of bikes are available from smaller manufacturers, I bet you could find one for sale with a little digging!
      Cheers - Dan P.

  • @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind
    @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind ปีที่แล้ว +1

    many did the Element style. Giant, Caloi, Mongoose etc... but for cross country i thought they were the best as climbing means much to me

  • @youtube7076
    @youtube7076 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now i did hit play,! and love it! more color grading tho eh..

  • @ih302
    @ih302 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a Growler 50 on the way!

  • @bikebudha01
    @bikebudha01 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just but a deposit on (2) new Element C50s... this video only makes me more excited about getting the bikes...

  • @youtube7076
    @youtube7076 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tell wade simmons to put some beard shine in! and that his designs are boss man bro siick! send it!

  • @GHinWI
    @GHinWI ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s like they’re making a new season of “The Red Green Show”!

  • @ExhumedToConsume
    @ExhumedToConsume ปีที่แล้ว

    Wade is a menace and I mean that in the best way possible lol

  • @youtube7076
    @youtube7076 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i did not yet hit play, just wanted to say, BEST FUXKING DESC/THUMB EVER!.

  • @nicgur_6981
    @nicgur_6981 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He looks like the guy from myth busters💀

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha, he kinda does! Lyle was a great host and super informative.
      Cheers - Dan P.

  • @charleslawton8764
    @charleslawton8764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bike testing… of course it’s measured in cycles!

  • @oscarfabian8074
    @oscarfabian8074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yup, he went way more rad than he should have.

  • @youtube7076
    @youtube7076 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:12 you! wtf! thats how last years suspension was geometried and you were doing them "in the EARLY 200s ", siick, so so flex!

  • @DionEconomopoulos-ks1gz
    @DionEconomopoulos-ks1gz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol these guys don't give a fawk... I like it!

  • @andyjonathan2486
    @andyjonathan2486 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:21 sounds like they are lacking FEA simulation capabilities.

    • @maciejzwolinski4022
      @maciejzwolinski4022 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds more like FEA helps but real tests give touchable results

    • @tristanhanley8741
      @tristanhanley8741 ปีที่แล้ว

      FEA only tells you so much, definitely a GIGO situation though. There is a reason that physical testing still has a place in engineering

    • @andyjonathan2486
      @andyjonathan2486 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maciejzwolinski4022 trial and error testing prototypes can be very expensive and much slower to arrive at a solution. When strain gauge measurements can be used in conjunction with FEA, the end model can be very accurate.
      Using the old-time “By Guess and By Golly” approach to design is antiquated and inefficient. I can’t think of a single automotive engineering company that will produce suspension components without FEA simulation beforehand.

    • @andyjonathan2486
      @andyjonathan2486 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tristanhanley8741 agreed. Either the design engineer was provided garbage input loads into the shock tab, or he didn’t run any stress analysis before cutting metal.
      Definitely the test lab is the last line of defense to guard against component failures-I’m somewhat surprised RM shared this design flaw on TH-cam, as most OEMs are pretty tight lipped.

    • @maciejzwolinski4022
      @maciejzwolinski4022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who said they don't run FEA simulations? Random guy in a TH-cam comment section? Take a look at Ministry cycles psalm frame - cracked prototype during efbe test despite FEA analysis. Same about kaventz.

  • @flennboyd6413
    @flennboyd6413 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    After watching this, my next bike is going to be a RM...

  • @BGWordneemig
    @BGWordneemig ปีที่แล้ว

    You Know, You Know, You know. etc. ......

  • @jasonlewis6914
    @jasonlewis6914 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Go titanium ull have a bike for life

  • @laurafulton7023
    @laurafulton7023 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boycott Rocky Mtn until they’re made in Canada again

  • @NickRaven
    @NickRaven ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative, but it seemed like the cameraman was constantly on their phone distracted, things out of frame, moving around chaotically, little stabilization, etc. I had to stop watching because it felt like they were gonna walk away at random points.

  • @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes
    @CANNABISfreedomNOtaxes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rocky Mountain had so much potential in the early 2000s. Now they're just an afterthought in the mind of the consumer.

  • @shanedejong7636
    @shanedejong7636 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what’s the new bike they’re testing 🫣

  • @southpawlibranine3511
    @southpawlibranine3511 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the host a serial killer

    • @FanatikBikeCo
      @FanatikBikeCo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Serial killer of bike frames!!
      Lyle was a phenomenal host and incredibly knowledgeable.
      - Dan P.

    • @southpawlibranine3511
      @southpawlibranine3511 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FanatikBikeCo i was talking about the host of the show not the rocky mountain employee

    • @MikeesTexas
      @MikeesTexas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dan has been known to kill trail features from time to time

  • @southpawlibranine3511
    @southpawlibranine3511 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How bout you stop over charging for your bikes and god sakes change the paint. Rocky mountain has some of the worst paint jobs and boring looking bikes

    • @jennifergallant543
      @jennifergallant543 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paint chips so easy on there bikes too crazy!!!

    • @mjor6406
      @mjor6406 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you buy a sports car based on interior materials and paint and not on handling and feel?