Just offering up a friendly suggestion for videos like this in the future: You should include time code links for each of the 5 with a description so that people can easily skip right to specific tips. I was aware of 4/5 of the tips you listed and manually skipped around the video to see if you were sharing any I was unfamiliar with.
The vault protection glitch is considered cheating in some servers and can get you banned btw. Also, to be able to access your genny later after you drop a vault on top of it, make sure to build it over an hatchframe so you access it from below and refuel whenever needed (assuming you playing on a server without stack mod, otherwise just toss 80k gas there and it'll last forever) The fence foundation trick works if you place your fence foundation pointing out the ceiling, like halfway in the middle of the ceiling, halfway out from the ceiling, then you place the turret in the outside half of the fence foundation, giving your turret a 270º angle of firing, but you can't stack turrets there, it'll fit just 1, unless you stack fence foundations then you might be able to stack the turrets. The rocket splash damage is a UE4 feature, not sure if ark can (or even bother to) change it in the future if needed, but it works like this: the projectile mesh will collide with the first mesh it can, in that case the outer wall, deal full damage to that mesh and if the full damage is greater than the target mesh's hitpoints, the remaining damage is spread to the subsequent mesh untill it has no further meshes to hit or does full damage. Also, before each mesh damage, an conditional test is made to check if the projectile can damage the structure type. For example: you fire a cannonball into a 4-layered wall built with Greenhouse wall, thatch wall, wooden wall and stone wall. The cannonball will demolish the greenhouse, will continue to damage and demolish the thatch wall, then will continue and damage the wooden wall. That's the "piercing" feature of the engine. Hope someone read all this and found something useful, I just noticed its too big geez! D:
Interesting video to see LoS of the autos, but the fence foundations you placed aren't actually doing anything in the turret part of the video. It's just the same as placing on a standard ceiling/roof edge. I have seen fence foundations placed perpendicular to a roof in the manner that the first "failed" catwalk is, which I feel like may be where you heard about it? This would mean that the parallel catwalk would be most effective for placing autos halfway up a base wall, as opposed to just on the roof of a base.
Hey man, when you doing science. you need a control. The control being nothing at all. Like how do I know that I need to place anything at all under my auto turrets? What does a turret do when you just place it on the edge of your building??
Some minor changes and improvements :D Don't use catwalks because it leaves blind spots below the turrets if someone runs up to the base. Use fence foundations facing outward and not flush with the lip of the structure so the turrets can shoot directly below themselves and still have enough space out from the structure in case something bad happens.
nice video! if i build it that way, the fence foundations on the outside are showing, wouldnt that be a weakspot in that build? wont the walls break down if u destroyed the fence foundation?
In the first part, the 4 layer walls, is it possible to remove the extra foundations you have on the outside (the ones you called scaffolding)? I was wondering if an enemy blows one up, would you lose two of the walls since it appears that one of the fence foundations is actually snapped to the outside single foundation?
the outward facing catwalks only prevent wall hugging if there are more than 1.. every turret on the side of the building you are on, except the one directly above you, will have line of sight.
Corrected somewhat with the word released, but Alpha is not the same as Early Access either which is what it currently still is... After more than a year of extra dev, two new maps and an additional game mode.
@Nerd Parade if you use the pillar trick to sink the foundation the vault will clip the ground and becomes more difficult to hit. Spin your fence foundation outwards and it will clear the vault.
I just started ark 2 weeks ago, last week I had what I thought was a decent small base with 10 auto torrents n it got wiped , then alphas chased me out the server. So I went to new server n restarted n 4 days in a small tribe attempted to raid me ( pirates ) so 2 days ago I decided to try my first raid n got a industrial forge, stove , and grinder plus bunch of electronics. My new base is up to 40 auto torrents and close to 20 plant species x and few ys. It's on a 3x foundation and 2x walls but working on renovating into a big tower with a bunch of walls all 3x. Trying my best to hit the 100 torrents and soon hopefully start turning them into heavys. Great videos really helps a new solo player on pvp official
you can build your generator and cables on the second highest layer of foundations and still build the highest layer (except on the geny). so your cables and outlets are protected and you can build a box around your geny without it peeking through the roof :)
With the ceilings, its generally much easier if you place one full layer (ideally the lowest one first) and then then next full layer and so on. Helps with snapping. Also, if you make and 2nd set of doors above your original ones and pin code to the same pin code, there will be no need to crouch ;)
is it worth it for the foundations that arent on the outside? once they blow through the outer layer, theyre in. obviously a honeycombed base you would continue to trip layer until the center.. but at the center seems to me you could just as easily use thatch if you wanted to once theyre in unless its a full wipe they wont bother to continue to spend their resources.
Unless you are in an alpha tribe your not gonna get the mats for this, the best turret method (unless they already patched it) is x seed plant on a pillar/cieing and put railings around it, dont know why but it makes dinosaurs incapable of damaging the plant entirely (still can be killed by arrows or guns)
You don't need to be in an alpha tribe with a crap load of people to build bases like this. You just need two people and know where metal spawns are. A good anky and a weight quetz will work. Just have to hit the spawns every time they spawn. It will take a little longer but it is possible.
You did one of the turret tests wrong. The metal fence foundation trick needs the post to be sticking out like the first catwalk, not just sitting along the wall. If it sticks out from the catwalk it can shoot directly down and behind.
is it better to do each wall 1 at a time to 4 layers ? and same with roof do u do 1 layer whole roof then next, then next, or one at a time to 4 layers, if that makes sence? p.s love the vids keep it up :)
*best option for turret placement:* put them on perpendicular fence foundations extending out from the center of a floor, or put giant metal hatch frames around your base, and put turrets on those.
lol.. I believe when people were telling you about fence foundation they were saying place them perpendicular to the wall like sticking out half way kind of like a catwalk but with a fence foundation.. but it was funny to watch you think that you have to place a fence foundation on the edge like you couldn't place a turret there without placing the fence foundation.. ha nice video tho :)
Love the Ark videos, keep up te good work! I was wondering, can/have you guys done a new updated video showcasing the latest in base defense. I know people are using pillars in front of walls spaced out from the wall a bit to add more defense. Some people are using gates turned sideways for walls around their base compound but can those be used for base walls. Other people use walls plus dropped vaults. I have also seen people use ramps inside the walls to further add in more stuff raiders have to blast through to get in. Would is be possible to drop vaults into a wall shape on foundations and then place gates turned sideways overtop of the vaults, or even do gates turned sideways overtop of 4 layers walls plus ramps? An updated video showcasing the best ideas and maybe do a test raid to show how these ideas stand up in actual raid conditions would be awesome.
but you can't refill the generator with tip 5,, although if you placed a cable intersection on the ground, then vertical, then snapped the generator, the generator would not be snapped to a foundation,but snapped to the natural floor, and if you snapped all the fence foundations for the turrets to a pillar instead of a foundation,would the vault just drop down over the pillar?
A random creature no been like that since the game came out. there are way worse than this. like the foundation drop with a bed on a platform trick that still around.
Didn't know about the 3x foundations, but do you really need that much? I did something like that on a 10x server with a friend. We made 2x foundations on a 11x11 foundation base with 4x walls all the way around 6 wals high. Then all the way around inside we placed vaults and then again a 2x wall. Around the base we made the towers with 3 vaults on top and 2 turrets on each catwalk. I think all the towers had 32 turrets or something and we had 5 of those towers. That is without doubt the best base i have ever made. On the base i think we had between 100 and 200 turrets aswell :)
u did the fence foundations wrong on the tower turret test, the fence foundation can go in the middle of the floor and stick out half way, then you place the turret on the very edge of the fend foundation and once you do that, the turret almost has a 360degree shooting radius, you can only put the fence foundation down like that before you place a wall, once you place the wall you can no longer place the fence foundation, and the fence foundations can only be placed on regular foundations or floors/ceilings.
I think double layering should just be implemented as a supported building feature and be made easy to do. But be limited to double, and no double doors too keep it interesting. Vault dropping i do not like at all! I hope it gets patched. I would deffo prefer servers that do not allow it, one can even clip multiple vaults into themself. I think it just becomes ridiculous when using them as walls and roof.
1000 gas, for example, lasts 41 days. More than long enough to justify the resources lost by breaking the vault when you eventually need to refill, considering the extra protection it gives.
1- Layers are useless, if someone spend all your bullets, doesn't matter how many layers have you put. They will enter. 2- You don't need a fence, if you put a autoturret in the edge of a ceiling it will shoot down.
Official servers have a 40 structure limit on a small radius. I built a double layered base and after creating a buffer layer, and turret defenses i quickly hit that cap. Dropping 4 layers on official is no longer feasible.
If you can place a generator on the ground instead of a foundation what about a fence foundation? You place the generator then wall it off and you drop the vault so it only defends the generator and you just put turrets on the ground I'm a idiot so nevermind but great video!
We had 300'turrents and x plants we defended against ever tribe and admins but we got back stab and lost every thing that vault glitch will ban you on most server like the one I play on
Great idea, BUT THEN.. the titanosaur happened. It will just walk through all of your walls and turrets. Best is to build this type of base on top of a cliff where they can't get up on.
Just offering up a friendly suggestion for videos like this in the future: You should include time code links for each of the 5 with a description so that people can easily skip right to specific tips. I was aware of 4/5 of the tips you listed and manually skipped around the video to see if you were sharing any I was unfamiliar with.
The vault protection glitch is considered cheating in some servers and can get you banned btw. Also, to be able to access your genny later after you drop a vault on top of it, make sure to build it over an hatchframe so you access it from below and refuel whenever needed (assuming you playing on a server without stack mod, otherwise just toss 80k gas there and it'll last forever)
The fence foundation trick works if you place your fence foundation pointing out the ceiling, like halfway in the middle of the ceiling, halfway out from the ceiling, then you place the turret in the outside half of the fence foundation, giving your turret a 270º angle of firing, but you can't stack turrets there, it'll fit just 1, unless you stack fence foundations then you might be able to stack the turrets.
The rocket splash damage is a UE4 feature, not sure if ark can (or even bother to) change it in the future if needed, but it works like this: the projectile mesh will collide with the first mesh it can, in that case the outer wall, deal full damage to that mesh and if the full damage is greater than the target mesh's hitpoints, the remaining damage is spread to the subsequent mesh untill it has no further meshes to hit or does full damage. Also, before each mesh damage, an conditional test is made to check if the projectile can damage the structure type. For example: you fire a cannonball into a 4-layered wall built with Greenhouse wall, thatch wall, wooden wall and stone wall. The cannonball will demolish the greenhouse, will continue to damage and demolish the thatch wall, then will continue and damage the wooden wall. That's the "piercing" feature of the engine.
Hope someone read all this and found something useful, I just noticed its too big geez! D:
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No such thing as cheating in defence haha. Some of us just wanna build in peace with honorable wars.
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Interesting video to see LoS of the autos, but the fence foundations you placed aren't actually doing anything in the turret part of the video. It's just the same as placing on a standard ceiling/roof edge. I have seen fence foundations placed perpendicular to a roof in the manner that the first "failed" catwalk is, which I feel like may be where you heard about it? This would mean that the parallel catwalk would be most effective for placing autos halfway up a base wall, as opposed to just on the roof of a base.
Hey man, when you doing science. you need a control. The control being nothing at all. Like how do I know that I need to place anything at all under my auto turrets? What does a turret do when you just place it on the edge of your building??
Some minor changes and improvements :D
Don't use catwalks because it leaves blind spots below the turrets if someone runs up to the base. Use fence foundations facing outward and not flush with the lip of the structure so the turrets can shoot directly below themselves and still have enough space out from the structure in case something bad happens.
nice video!
if i build it that way, the fence foundations on the outside are showing, wouldnt that be a weakspot in that build? wont the walls break down if u destroyed the fence foundation?
In the first part, the 4 layer walls, is it possible to remove the extra foundations you have on the outside (the ones you called scaffolding)? I was wondering if an enemy blows one up, would you lose two of the walls since it appears that one of the fence foundations is actually snapped to the outside single foundation?
the outward facing catwalks only prevent wall hugging if there are more than 1.. every turret on the side of the building you are on, except the one directly above you, will have line of sight.
not sure why it should be patched.
Its realistic-Ish
You have been able to multi layer since the game was released in Alpha... it's unlikely to get patched.
multilayering is more realistic - ish, The vault thing should be patched though XD
DireSabbath the game is still in alpha lol
Corrected somewhat with the word released, but Alpha is not the same as Early Access either which is what it currently still is... After more than a year of extra dev, two new maps and an additional game mode.
can you compare the turret on the edge of a flat roof vs the fence foundation?
at 20:38 couldnt you just use the lower foundation technique?
@Nerd Parade if you use the pillar trick to sink the foundation the vault will clip the ground and becomes more difficult to hit. Spin your fence foundation outwards and it will clear the vault.
I feel like when someone says unraidable they are setting people up for a challenge.
By unraidable i think what they really mean is very hard to raid
No base is unraidable u just have to be so expensive to raid that they just give up🤣🤣
I just started ark 2 weeks ago, last week I had what I thought was a decent small base with 10 auto torrents n it got wiped , then alphas chased me out the server. So I went to new server n restarted n 4 days in a small tribe attempted to raid me ( pirates ) so 2 days ago I decided to try my first raid n got a industrial forge, stove , and grinder plus bunch of electronics. My new base is up to 40 auto torrents and close to 20 plant species x and few ys. It's on a 3x foundation and 2x walls but working on renovating into a big tower with a bunch of walls all 3x. Trying my best to hit the 100 torrents and soon hopefully start turning them into heavys. Great videos really helps a new solo player on pvp official
you can build your generator and cables on the second highest layer of foundations and still build the highest layer (except on the geny). so your cables and outlets are protected and you can build a box around your geny without it peeking through the roof :)
With the ceilings, its generally much easier if you place one full layer (ideally the lowest one first) and then then next full layer and so on. Helps with snapping.
Also, if you make and 2nd set of doors above your original ones and pin code to the same pin code, there will be no need to crouch ;)
is it worth it for the foundations that arent on the outside? once they blow through the outer layer, theyre in. obviously a honeycombed base you would continue to trip layer until the center.. but at the center seems to me you could just as easily use thatch if you wanted to once theyre in unless its a full wipe they wont bother to continue to spend their resources.
Steve B its not worth it. its for the OCD. unless ofcourse you put beds under foundations then its very worth it.
Unless you are in an alpha tribe your not gonna get the mats for this, the best turret method (unless they already patched it) is x seed plant on a pillar/cieing and put railings around it, dont know why but it makes dinosaurs incapable of damaging the plant entirely (still can be killed by arrows or guns)
quetzals can break them
You don't need to be in an alpha tribe with a crap load of people to build bases like this. You just need two people and know where metal spawns are. A good anky and a weight quetz will work. Just have to hit the spawns every time they spawn. It will take a little longer but it is possible.
@NerdParade which key you press for change snap points?
You did one of the turret tests wrong. The metal fence foundation trick needs the post to be sticking out like the first catwalk, not just sitting along the wall. If it sticks out from the catwalk it can shoot directly down and behind.
what button did you use to cycle through to alternate wall position ?
Q changes snap points
You can protect the foundation of the turret tower more by placing ramps or sloped ceilings coming off the foundation
Thanks for the tips! Our base is a lot better now!
Thanks for the advice could you show building a battle quetzal
is it better to do each wall 1 at a time to 4 layers ? and same with roof do u do 1 layer whole roof then next, then next, or one at a time to 4 layers, if that makes sence? p.s love the vids keep it up :)
if you shoot the corner can you hit multiple walls at once?
what's the magic button for Xbox sir
Fr
Nerd parade how much increased gather and taming do you have on your server?
Rates | x25 Experience, x5 Gather, x40 Taming & Breeding
Player Level Cap | 100
Wild Dino Level Cap | 150
You placed the fence foundation wrong. The fence foundations are meant to stick out and not clip to the ceiling edge.
Cant u just use the Vault trick using a pillar and ceiling as an foundation instead of metal foundations? dunno if that works?
This video is amazing! Keep up the amazing work!
Do you need the 3 lair foundation for the 4 lair ceilings
PvP Noob no you need 4 walls for 4 ceiling
can you do the first tip on PS?
*best option for turret placement:* put them on perpendicular fence foundations extending out from the center of a floor, or put giant metal hatch frames around your base, and put turrets on those.
The fence foundation method with turrets is patched right?
GewoonEenGamer yeah unfortunately
fence foundations can support turrets when they are set to intersect poking outwards from ceilings... better than using them as just a "lip"
lol.. I believe when people were telling you about fence foundation they were saying place them perpendicular to the wall like sticking out half way kind of like a catwalk but with a fence foundation.. but it was funny to watch you think that you have to place a fence foundation on the edge like you couldn't place a turret there without placing the fence foundation.. ha nice video tho :)
How much is ark on the Xbox one currently?
How do you refuel the generator??
4 layer stuff still a thing?
Does this work with s+ mod?
Love the Ark videos, keep up te good work!
I was wondering, can/have you guys done a new updated video showcasing the latest in base defense. I know people are using pillars in front of walls spaced out from the wall a bit to add more defense. Some people are using gates turned sideways for walls around their base compound but can those be used for base walls. Other people use walls plus dropped vaults. I have also seen people use ramps inside the walls to further add in more stuff raiders have to blast through to get in. Would is be possible to drop vaults into a wall shape on foundations and then place gates turned sideways overtop of the vaults, or even do gates turned sideways overtop of 4 layers walls plus ramps?
An updated video showcasing the best ideas and maybe do a test raid to show how these ideas stand up in actual raid conditions would be awesome.
but you can't refill the generator with tip 5,, although if you placed a cable intersection on the ground, then vertical, then snapped the generator, the generator would not be snapped to a foundation,but snapped to the natural floor,
and if you snapped all the fence foundations for the turrets to a pillar instead of a foundation,would the vault just drop down over the pillar?
R u in an Alpha tribe ? Or ur own ?
Also if you demo the fence foundation under the doors they stay standing and you can walk in don't need to crouch
lower the foundation for when you drop the vault maybe?
Is the triple layer thing a glitch/exploit or is it a feature of the game for advanced builders?
I feel like it is a glitch, but it is done by using current ARK mechanics in a clever way
A random creature no been like that since the game came out. there are way worse than this. like the foundation drop with a bed on a platform trick that still around.
For PS4 what's Q button? to cycle builds.
Carlos Espada triangle
Didn't know about the 3x foundations, but do you really need that much?
I did something like that on a 10x server with a friend. We made 2x foundations on a 11x11 foundation base with 4x walls all the way around 6 wals high. Then all the way around inside we placed vaults and then again a 2x wall. Around the base we made the towers with 3 vaults on top and 2 turrets on each catwalk. I think all the towers had 32 turrets or something and we had 5 of those towers. That is without doubt the best base i have ever made. On the base i think we had between 100 and 200 turrets aswell :)
nice! it's all personal preference. I don't think you need that many foundations personally
do you know if this works on the Xbox version?? thanks!!! love your videos
Austin McCray yeah it does i do it all the time on xbox
hello im a new sub and i just wanted to say love your vids
Hi, I discoverd your Channel yesterday and I really like your videos.
can you do the same with wood?
Merijn Eggens haha xD
What's q on xbox?
Is the audio is out of sync at 13min onwards a bit
u did the fence foundations wrong on the tower turret test, the fence foundation can go in the middle of the floor and stick out half way, then you place the turret on the very edge of the fend foundation and once you do that, the turret almost has a 360degree shooting radius, you can only put the fence foundation down like that before you place a wall, once you place the wall you can no longer place the fence foundation, and the fence foundations can only be placed on regular foundations or floors/ceilings.
whats,the snap point cycle button on xbox
Chris Gaming It's the back button. the one you use to open your map
been like this for awhile doubt they patch it now. You also can put beds on the lower foundation and hide them.
Tim Proc not on official, the beds will despawn
try hatch frames to put turrets on
how are you ment to refill the gen after that
How do you replace gas if the vault is over it :p
minor setback
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Wolf :p make sure u have a hatchframe under it to refuel. or just put loads of gas lol
Wolf :p or u can prolly use an elevator lol
what button would it be
How do you do the snap point so it switches without moving?
q
Nerd Parade thank you so much :D
Terry Swain Press Y.
Place the generator on the ground, build a 3x3 ring around it, drop the vault onto the genny and build ur turret tower around the 3x3.
I think double layering should just be implemented as a supported building feature and be made easy to do. But be limited to double, and no double doors too keep it interesting.
Vault dropping i do not like at all! I hope it gets patched. I would deffo prefer servers that do not allow it, one can even clip multiple vaults into themself. I think it just becomes ridiculous when using them as walls and roof.
Raided a base on a offical that was 6 layered and vaulted in front and behind the walls that was an amazing base
can u do that thing for Xbox one
has any of this been patched current to today? mainly the quad walls/foundations/ roofs.
Still hasn’t been fixed
is the server down
how would u put gasoline in the generator with a vault on it
you have to fill it before the vault drop
Nerd Parade it will run out
1000 gas, for example, lasts 41 days.
More than long enough to justify the resources lost by breaking the vault when you eventually need to refill, considering the extra protection it gives.
as for the vault part, if you built a 2x2 box and put the vault in the center, then drop it.. it's gg
Are you the leady leader of your tribe? I learn so much from you guys
how did u add gas ？
13Lang HYG he didnt
wats the q button on xbox?
y
Matthew Brittain is the back button
the quadlayers is all fine and dandy but rockets and launchers are relatively cheap, Hardest part is getting rid of the turrets
1- Layers are useless, if someone spend all your bullets, doesn't matter how many layers have you put. They will enter.
2- You don't need a fence, if you put a autoturret in the edge of a ceiling it will shoot down.
Official servers have a 40 structure limit on a small radius. I built a double layered base and after creating a buffer layer, and turret defenses i quickly hit that cap. Dropping 4 layers on official is no longer feasible.
How do you do it on PS4
The vault gen thing is cool
is the PVP server still down?
DR SATAN yea
Nice video 😌
If you can place a generator on the ground instead of a foundation what about a fence foundation? You place the generator then wall it off and you drop the vault so it only defends the generator and you just put turrets on the ground I'm a idiot so nevermind but great video!
Like fence foundation and ceiling then generator on the ceiling?
Love the vid keep up the good work but I already knew all these tips
anyone know how to switch snap points on xbox yet? ty
chaseitdown y
You can drop the vault from a raft, and have an underwater stash that people never look for, and can't be destroyed by rocket launcher.
Whats up with the quality?
16:00 large hatchframes are best
We had 300'turrents and x plants we defended against ever tribe and admins but we got back stab and lost every thing that vault glitch will ban you on most server like the one I play on
what about hitting corners were you see all the walls
What's the button for Xbox
Ryan Patrick Y if u meant Q
TauntXx thx m8
Ryan Patrick is the back button
Trevor Searcy so is it the back button or the y button
Could u start doing tutorials `?
Does this still work?
MrSnoopz Z probably most, like the quadruple walls
Keep up the gud work
I would like to see more flying Air Base you don't really see any of them when you play only land and water and speed boat bases
Robert Matherly because they’re the only ones allowed to have turrets
You can easy increase it to 5 ceilings with a pillar.
Umm why would it get patched?
vault turrets are pretty flawed unless you keep destroying the vault you can't refill your genorater
Reborn Android you'd only have to break the vault like once a month
Great idea, BUT THEN.. the titanosaur happened. It will just walk through all of your walls and turrets. Best is to build this type of base on top of a cliff where they can't get up on.
Love Tour vids xD
no base is unraidable
With the exception of a fully developed Ark server that operates as one massive base.
Their base is easly raidable ive been playing since it came out on ps4 we use our own rangarok server and we use another server for farming and shit
@@BlowiesChannel u are so cool
Your intro is awesome,and what is the server name wanna join =]