The people in the comments saying Kim is talking to much. Are the same ones who only watch these shows for the fights and ratchet behavior. Too ignorant to know you’re ignorant. She’s dropping jewels and knowledge regarding the why! From a behind the scenes standpoint, which we very rarely, if ever, get to see… 💪🏼 Respect Kim, Mec & Cease!
Truth because all the fights Cease had, putting his hands on other black men was good t.v but as soon as he hit a dog they cancelled him. They valued the dog more than a black man.
You can take it however you want but do you understand that a dog is not the same as a person. A person can walk away or choose to do whatever but a puppy can't do nothing to a grown man
Nah they don’t think that it’s going to happen to them or they think that they have an ace in the hole but it’s not their game just like you said they are the puppets
@@aundraythomas3233I can agree with that but you also don’t know what contract he was under… He may have had to fulfill an obligation…. It’s like a rapper who’s sign to a label under a 3 or 4 album deal. If they want to leave they have to satisfy the contract or pay their way out for breaching the contractual stipulations
I feel Mecca cuz I'm tired of the drama also, but let's not act like the culture ain't rooting to see some black/brown folk swing on each other when it comes to these shows. The problem is not these execs, the problem is us. Stop feeding into it and watch how fast things change but that ain't gone happen cuz everyone is addicted to the drama.
Many years ago Killer Mike spoke about an interview he and his wife had with the people from love & hip hop. He said at some point in the interview the people told him and his wife that based on their answers and interactions they wouldn’t work for the show because they really did love each other.
I feel like they didn’t hear the part where Caesar literally kept telling them black don’t watch or don’t respond to the peaceful shows….we can’t keep blaming the other folk we need to stop watching that mess
It wad coool when ya was getting paid on the show. Now its a problem when its over with and they went forward without ya. Ya gotra stand up in the moment and speak up
@@elliot2177it’s not the same dude and u pro don’t even watch it and I hate dis logic of because they do it it’s ok ? They don’t have all dese negative stereotypes attached to them like we do either and not a representation of their culture
Why does this non-black woman sit amongst black men with all of these opinions about Black people and black issues she’s not black get a black woman to give these comments like I don’t understand y’all
It’s not just Black people watching new shows and no shows are popular because of the other demographics that are watching it and enjoy seeing people black act that way
Lmao honestly this whole conversation is nasty to me as a black man. Shit was all good when y’all was getting y’all bag haha now years later it’s a different story. I’m sure if ceaser would have got everything he wanted out of the deal we wouldn’t be having this conversation
Yeah because I really don't like all the fighting and the ratchetness on all the black TV platforms it's real trifling and they really painting us in a bad ligt it has been for a long time! So for them to think that that's what we're looking for? No, everyone is looking for that please show our ppl better! Thanks, Loyal viewer
YO MATH!! tell dis Nga to get STRAIGHT to the BARZ he not that nice to be chillin on the beat like that… THESE INTRO’s gotta come WITH HARD BARZ INSTANTLY not put Nga’s to sleep , you better leave that shit to the END!!
Love and HipHop got atleast 1 or 2 seasons left in them before the rating tank ... They would have no choice to bring in more toxic shows to draw more eyes to they're network...You see they're testing the time with Tammy show and that's toxic
We fought against each other since slavery...Yts would pit us up against our own people just for their entertainment. All money isnt good money if its making you look like a sucka......
🎬I worked in television and what they are saying it not necessarily true. Do all reality shows have physical fighting - NO!, but the ones with friends (Jersey Shore), Family, wives (The Real Housewives) Black or White etc. do! Drama physical or verbal is what motivates people to watch. People watched Hell's Kitchen for Gordon Ramsay yelling at the cooks and not the recipes. Now as far as the industry being bias on a racial level YES THAT'S TRUE!
Great show. Too bad Caesar kept getting cut off in the middle of dropping jewels. Much respect for bringing attention to why rachetness was being the focus for networks but the guest should have the floor especially if they’re exposing the behind the scenes.
We listen to it because that’s what’s being fed. And I don’t agree with Cesar . Yea, some wanna see the mayhem but a lot of people are tired of it which is why a lot of these shows are no more
It’s ironic how the host is addressing the film person about the “when are they gonna fight” comment and in the intro song of the show one of the bars in the rap says “I’m the only Smack rapper that smack rappers” physical violence is not apart of battle rap…the rap is the battle. I want people to read this as another example of how hypocritical our culture is. In this culture we love drama and chaos Math Hoffa is monetizing it….stop it
Well if they think of you as that type of person then you didn’t show them any different you allowed them to play in your face for the money 💰 all while they’re making millions off of you & giving you just enough to keep you coming back for the BS!
Prior to reality tv we had a lot of successful black tv shows-if you want change you must be change. I feel like ces only have a problem cause he had the shitty end of the stick…for 14 season he never had a problem…take that in….14 seasons you ain’t give af about the culture until they cut his lights off.
Art imitates life in this situation. Let's not pretend that this is not reflective of how a lot of pur black ppl act. When you're ruled by money and fame, you allow them to pull strings
They missing the point as black people we can stand up and say they say we're not going to portray ourselves like that no more but I guess anything for the money
Tell us how they think after they done with u .. had nothing say wen u was getting money from those 👹but know u want to talk smh 🤦🏽 same old story same old clown 🤡 character
These debates and arguments are really pointless.As long as you can be bought (black people) and sold your story will be written,filmed,narrated,directed and edited by Caucasians.Also for these stories to be so off they sure are loved and viewed by black people.
It’s not just black people who watch these shows or it wouldn’t be as successful as it is there is all types of others who are drawn to these type of shows that’s why the viewing # are so hi
Buddy talmbout he's never liked how Black people are portrayed in reality shows, but then voted for and bragged about voting for Trump, after Trump suggested Black people liked him more for being a felon. Make this shit make sense man. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
I'm sorry but Mecca is a corny azz host Wtf is Math at...He has to control the narrative allll the time typical Aries ♈️..let Ceaser & Kim explain there stories 4eyes 👓
Stop blaming others for WHAT YOU AGREE TO AND PROFIT ENORMOUSLY OFF OF!!! Sad, the people you think you are not like, you are exactly alike or even worse. People are grown, enjoy making money off the negative shit and spreading it. But become righteous when they aren't hot anymore.
I remember working for this major network and I was let go after I had asked for an opportunity to prove myself with my editing skills to move up to an editor from a junior editor. A week later I was told I was no longer needed. A white guy I worked with during that same timeframe got the opportunity I asked for, I only know that because he was friend and I was in communication with him.
Crazy nobody knew him he was regular they gave u bags of money took ya fame u kept the bread y not ride off 14-15years they gave u millions bruh wats wrong
The people in the comments saying Kim is talking to much. Are the same ones who only watch these shows for the fights and ratchet behavior. Too ignorant to know you’re ignorant. She’s dropping jewels and knowledge regarding the why! From a behind the scenes standpoint, which we very rarely, if ever, get to see… 💪🏼 Respect Kim, Mec & Cease!
Truth because all the fights Cease had, putting his hands on other black men was good t.v but as soon as he hit a dog they cancelled him. They valued the dog more than a black man.
You can take it however you want but do you understand that a dog is not the same as a person. A person can walk away or choose to do whatever but a puppy can't do nothing to a grown man
@@JohnJones-ko5yg💯💯💯
So harsh but true
The question is , why do we support the BS and negative stereotypes? If WE didn't watch there would be no show. WE are complicit as a culture.
What culture are you referring of
@@jamaal9911 Black people
Kuz negativity spreads faster and this is the microwave era. Everyone tryna be first instead of right
Exactly 💯 everytime you see us on tv we cooning weather it's singing and dancing,fighting,all around foolishness and disfunction
So my understanding is u blatantly let the puppet master play u just cause it's what they wanna see for 14 years and now u got some regret?
Because he’s not getting money from it no more lol
Nah they don’t think that it’s going to happen to them or they think that they have an ace in the hole but it’s not their game just like you said they are the puppets
Again, when it goes to POST production, they switch the narrative… that’s out of anyone’s control
@@lm7913 post production don't have nothing to do with the 14 year part
@@aundraythomas3233I can agree with that but you also don’t know what contract he was under… He may have had to fulfill an obligation…. It’s like a rapper who’s sign to a label under a 3 or 4 album deal. If they want to leave they have to satisfy the contract or pay their way out for breaching the contractual stipulations
They been fighting since mtv the real world. Thats when they found the formula 😂
Exactly, tf they talking about lol
Stop yelling all that truth !!!
💯💯💯
😂😂😂 Season 1. Tammy and David showed the world the way.
@slide5039 Tammy and David was like Season 2 or 3
Love & Hiphop is basically on life support, the culture is slowly moving away from the ratchedness, and going back to the real
Facts
What culture?
True
I feel Mecca cuz I'm tired of the drama also, but let's not act like the culture ain't rooting to see some black/brown folk swing on each other when it comes to these shows. The problem is not these execs, the problem is us. Stop feeding into it and watch how fast things change but that ain't gone happen cuz everyone is addicted to the drama.
Shit it's even gotten worse. Ever seen that "Baddies" BULLSHIT?
Brown?
There’s no “black/brown”.
Brown folk?
They can’t edit what we don’t give them….
Exactly
Period
Facts
Flavor flav took realty tv to a different level
I stopped watching a lot of reality shows, because of the “ratchet and fighting”. Some people do enjoy “Family Matters, The Jefferson, etc.”
If people didn't watch it then they wouldn't put it out. We all watch it like that
Because we love to see our own destruction.
We’re addicted to it.
Music, shows,
the most ignorant are the biggest.
If it’s scripted it isn’t reality
This dude is a certified bozo. He agreed to become a WWE character for dollars, his ego blew up his spot now he a social philosopher. GTFOH Goofy.
Lord have mercy! It never ends with the victim mentality!
Just thinking the same. All these rich artist an they cant come together to own there own platforms.
Many years ago Killer Mike spoke about an interview he and his wife had with the people from love & hip hop. He said at some point in the interview the people told him and his wife that based on their answers and interactions they wouldn’t work for the show because they really did love each other.
I feel like they didn’t hear the part where Caesar literally kept telling them black don’t watch or don’t respond to the peaceful shows….we can’t keep blaming the other folk we need to stop watching that mess
I’m confused are they interviewing Ceaser or both of them at this point.
Yeah, I wanted to hear more from Cesar on this. They can talk to Kim any time.
Word lol
It wad coool when ya was getting paid on the show. Now its a problem when its over with and they went forward without ya. Ya gotra stand up in the moment and speak up
Bra it's call a learning experience
Nah they are mad now..stand up when it matters @@rossctm2231
@@rossctm2231it’s also called being a puppet
Negativity sells because as humans , we tend to see negativity first.That is in general.They fight on the wyte version of Real Housewives fight,too.
Thank u
Facts.
But they not quite as ignorant as we are.
@lovehate8286 it's the same
@@elliot2177it’s not the same dude and u pro don’t even watch it and I hate dis logic of because they do it it’s ok ? They don’t have all dese negative stereotypes attached to them like we do either and not a representation of their culture
BLACK TRAUMA SELLS
Why does this non-black woman sit amongst black men with all of these opinions about Black people and black issues she’s not black get a black woman to give these comments like I don’t understand y’all
I WATCHED EVERY EPISODE OF O.C.C. !!!! 🔥🔥🔥
It’s not just Black people watching new shows and no shows are popular because of the other demographics that are watching it and enjoy seeing people black act that way
Feeding chicken, to chickens is Evil work just because they'll eat it. Snowfall.
Powers that be know that everything/one has a price!
FACTS
They was even fighting on “storage wars” smh 🤷🏾♂️
Your modesty in success is what I respect most. Keep it up!
I stopped watching all reality TV years ago due to the fighting and negative connotations.
Our culture is ignorant period!
I WANT TO HEAR CEASAR TALK
If one of the executives saw this thumbnail, their first initial thought would go “they might fight in this clip”.
The Jerry Springer formula. Which is way over the top. Imo
Gat. Where you get the Cliff Huckstable sweater fam.😂
That sweater cost over $600 ol school Coogi
@7:30
Mecca, that was nasty work! 😂
Crazy bars! I dont want to be in a controlled experiment making money but set up to fail with bad behavior! It goes back to Jerry Springer in the 90s.
How yall blaming the executives when the actors TAKE THE CHECK!!!!! GOTDAMN! TAKE SOME F**KIN ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!
Monetized Black Trauma & Drama 😮 $$$$$$
Lmao honestly this whole conversation is nasty to me as a black man. Shit was all good when y’all was getting y’all bag haha now years later it’s a different story. I’m sure if ceaser would have got everything he wanted out of the deal we wouldn’t be having this conversation
Why didn’t Kim say anything to the lady who asked when are they gonna fight
Kim & Courtney squabbled a few times.
Ive never heard a ink shop acting like black inks. Thats a Anomaly nobody was trying to immulate the show.
The rapper in the beginning look like he needa wash his hands lol
I need a shot on the new show so I can show them we black artist got a lot more to offer
"They" not making us look bad we make us look bad.
That track by math is fire 🔥 😂
Yeah because I really don't like all the fighting and the ratchetness on all the black TV platforms it's real trifling and they really painting us in a bad ligt it has been for a long time! So for them to think that that's what we're looking for? No, everyone is looking for that please show our ppl better!
Thanks,
Loyal viewer
+ We are viewed as animals in their mind so this is what they put out and then they dont hire us to change that so the cycle continues.
YO MATH!! tell dis Nga to get STRAIGHT to the BARZ he not that nice to be chillin on the beat like that… THESE INTRO’s gotta come WITH HARD BARZ INSTANTLY not put Nga’s to sleep , you better leave that shit to the END!!
There were fights on orange county choppers. That show destroyed a father and sons relationship. BUT in actuality, they did that
It's obvious these shows are fake. It's like modern day time soap opera
I used to watch Orange county choppers.
I watch maybe the most of the 1st season of black ink. And I have not seen it since the 2nd season started.
If we turn it off. That'll be the end of it all.
Kim, Kardashian and her sister had a fight on the show twice
Housewives of New York. Added eboney k Williams. Tried to talk about real issues. The rating suffered .
Love and HipHop got atleast 1 or 2 seasons left in them before the rating tank ... They would have no choice to bring in more toxic shows to draw more eyes to they're network...You see they're testing the time with Tammy show and that's toxic
Well thats the problem they degrading they self 🙄
Ya notice the bots comment on every video 😂?? Somebody buying this engagement
Dam Kim talk too much
We fought against each other since slavery...Yts would pit us up against our own people just for their entertainment. All money isnt good money if its making you look like a sucka......
Shit is called the shade room
🎬I worked in television and what they are saying it not necessarily true. Do all reality shows have physical fighting - NO!, but the ones with friends (Jersey Shore), Family, wives (The Real Housewives) Black or White etc. do! Drama physical or verbal is what motivates people to watch. People watched Hell's Kitchen for Gordon Ramsay yelling at the cooks and not the recipes. Now as far as the industry being bias on a racial level YES THAT'S TRUE!
Great show. Too bad Caesar kept getting cut off in the middle of dropping jewels. Much respect for bringing attention to why rachetness was being the focus for networks but the guest should have the floor especially if they’re exposing the behind the scenes.
We listen to it because that’s what’s being fed. And I don’t agree with Cesar . Yea, some wanna see the mayhem but a lot of people are tired of it which is why a lot of these shows are no more
It’s ironic how the host is addressing the film person about the “when are they gonna fight” comment and in the intro song of the show one of the bars in the rap says “I’m the only Smack rapper that smack rappers” physical violence is not apart of battle rap…the rap is the battle. I want people to read this as another example of how hypocritical our culture is. In this culture we love drama and chaos Math Hoffa is monetizing it….stop it
Well if they think of you as that type of person then you didn’t show them any different you allowed them to play in your face for the money 💰 all while they’re making millions off of you & giving you just enough to keep you coming back for the BS!
Cease teaching like af in these episodes.
PLEASE pass the message to Gat Murdah... he wylin sellin Season 3 of Da Brooklyn way.
Prior to reality tv we had a lot of successful black tv shows-if you want change you must be change. I feel like ces only have a problem cause he had the shitty end of the stick…for 14 season he never had a problem…take that in….14 seasons you ain’t give af about the culture until they cut his lights off.
Art imitates life in this situation. Let's not pretend that this is not reflective of how a lot of pur black ppl act. When you're ruled by money and fame, you allow them to pull strings
Keep a Ethika in my Ethikas for the Ethikas we got Ethikas, keep yo Ethika by yo Ethika
Those were not wypipo in those editing , budgeting and higher level rooms.
I was watching Orange County Choppers heavy
That's what we are violent and ignorant! Like they don't have to think that, that's a 100 percent the truth, smfh...
They missing the point as black people we can stand up and say they say we're not going to portray ourselves like that no more but I guess anything for the money
Tell us how they think after they done with u .. had nothing say wen u was getting money from those 👹but know u want to talk smh 🤦🏽 same old story same old clown 🤡 character
Who’s being interviewed again ?
Riiiiight
These debates and arguments are really pointless.As long as you can be bought (black people) and sold your story will be written,filmed,narrated,directed and edited by Caucasians.Also for these stories to be so off they sure are loved and viewed by black people.
It’s not just black people who watch these shows or it wouldn’t be as successful as it is there is all types of others who are drawn to these type of shows that’s why the viewing # are so hi
She’s just trynna make what she did sound good , she was the runner for the director ..
You could have walked away years ago if it was so bad! You stayed, now complain! This seems to be the normal.
She might need her own interview . She took over alittle bit too much to the point she is cutting Ceasar off.
If we being real Jersey Shore started it
White black, orange, yellow or green everybody like ratchet TV
Use your iPhone/ipad hit record and make another show FOH ….🤷♂️
They sound old and out of touch. Only old people watch TV. Kids under 30 don't even have cable smh.
Yo why she can't shut up and stop interrupting people. Seems like she's trying to control the narrative.
Man damn are they interviewing Caesar or the random girl?
Buddy talmbout he's never liked how Black people are portrayed in reality shows, but then voted for and bragged about voting for Trump, after Trump suggested Black people liked him more for being a felon. Make this shit make sense man. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
SAME WITH MUSIC
This dude must have forgot what Gucci did cause he went in there store and bought that dumb ass jacket
What is her name?
It be low hanging fruit
I'm sorry but Mecca is a corny azz host Wtf is Math at...He has to control the narrative allll the time typical Aries ♈️..let Ceaser & Kim explain there stories 4eyes 👓
I love CNN
Stop blaming others for WHAT YOU AGREE TO AND PROFIT ENORMOUSLY OFF OF!!! Sad, the people you think you are not like, you are exactly alike or even worse. People are grown, enjoy making money off the negative shit and spreading it. But become righteous when they aren't hot anymore.
i never watched any of those love & hiphop bullshit shows like that. if i wanted to see ghetto shit, i just go to the projects
I remember working for this major network and I was let go after I had asked for an opportunity to prove myself with my editing skills to move up to an editor from a junior editor. A week later I was told I was no longer needed. A white guy I worked with during that same timeframe got the opportunity I asked for, I only know that because he was friend and I was in communication with him.
Cap 🧢
Crazy nobody knew him he was regular they gave u bags of money took ya fame u kept the bread y not ride off 14-15years they gave u millions bruh wats wrong
Black entertainment sells truma