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Why KLM Said “GOODBYE” To B737 And Turned To A321neo

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  • @BiswasShrestha-cd5tr
    @BiswasShrestha-cd5tr หลายเดือนก่อน +113

    In 25 years, Boeing will be similar to Lockheed Martin.

    • @William2512
      @William2512 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In what way .

    • @paulpaulsen7777
      @paulpaulsen7777 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who is Lockheed Martin?

    • @paulpaulsen7777
      @paulpaulsen7777 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brother from Steve Martin??

    • @p6x2
      @p6x2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      It is difficult to forecast how long it is going to take to Boeing to recover from these catastrophic events. One key factor though, is that Airbus alone cannot manufacture enough planes to satisfy the demand. I am guessing this is what saved Boeing from failing.

    • @paulpaulsen7777
      @paulpaulsen7777 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@p6x2 saved from failing???????

  • @sequoyayosemite2771
    @sequoyayosemite2771 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    KLM has been a faithful Boeing customer for decades
    I am happy to know that KLM made a pragmatic decision
    And decided to move to the A-320 neo family

  • @Mriya225
    @Mriya225 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Underrated channel ngl, bullshit youtube algorithm video should be up there with DJs aviation. Keep up the good work Aviaat

    • @Aviaat1
      @Aviaat1  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thanks! Really glad you're enjoying the videos.

    • @SayAnytime
      @SayAnytime หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      IMO DJs Aviation is a bullshit channel too. A catchy title and 10 min of talking in a loop.
      My preference goes to Simple flying

    • @Celestial_Arishem
      @Celestial_Arishem หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SayAnytime me too, simple flying

    • @Mriya225
      @Mriya225 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SayAnytime Yea, thats a fair point.

  • @SeverityOne
    @SeverityOne หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The noise aspect cannot be underestimated. Schiphol, KLM's base, has a very big noise problem. It's Europe's fourth busiest airport in terms of passenger numbers. More people fly via Schiphol than via Frankfurt. But the Netherlands is also one of the most densely populated countries in Europe (not _the_ most densely populated, not by a long shot, despite what some Dutch like to think).
    The government has had a, shall we say, flexible approach towards the noise pollution from Schiphol, because money. But there's a lot of pressure, including court cases, to comply with environmental laws. So the plan was hatched to drastically reduce the number of flights. That's when the Americans chipped in, and told the Dutch in no uncertain terms that this would lead to them losing landing rights in the USA, on the oh so profitable transatlantic route.
    50% less noise is a no-brainer.

  • @speedbrake22
    @speedbrake22 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's AirFrance/KLM, so that french connection might have played a major role too, but KLM was kind of disappointed with the quality of their 787s too when they got them.

  • @Turbofanstudiosunofficial
    @Turbofanstudiosunofficial หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This channel is unbelievably underrated, I love all the info I’m getting on the a321neo and XLR. Definitely subscribing!

    • @Aviaat1
      @Aviaat1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, appreciate that.

  • @CivilStig
    @CivilStig หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    2:31 'neo' in the first place stands for 'new engine option', but I'm sure it also coincided nicely with the regular meaning of the word neo.

    • @stonew1927
      @stonew1927 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Interesting factoid. Thank you! :)

  • @Alfius_
    @Alfius_ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For people with adhd: 737 go boom and a320 neo don’t go boom.

  • @greannysmith
    @greannysmith หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You gotta have a lot of guts to say that Boeing has "tackled and solved" their issue's

  • @busfan9874
    @busfan9874 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    KLM has the last 737-800 ever built however. It was built in 2019. Registration is PH-BCL

  • @stonew1927
    @stonew1927 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a passenger it makes me nervous to fly any 737 given all the safety issues Boeing's had with the newer models over the last several years. I just flew with KLM from Schipoll to Los Angeles on a 787 dreamliner. Very comfortable flight with excellent service.

  • @theGoogol
    @theGoogol 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The way America treats ASML I'm not at all surprised more and more Dutch companies are avoiding dealing with Americans. Imagine Boeing saying where we can and can't fly.

  • @edv.fernandez6241
    @edv.fernandez6241 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    KLM is also transitioning from the Booeing 787 to Airbus A350. Initially, KLM was going to fly the A350 with Air France primarily flying the 787. Then, 787s went to KLM with all A350s going to Air France. Now, KLM will replace the 787 with A350. Air France might continue to fly both. We will all see

    • @jeromeprins6164
      @jeromeprins6164 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Klm is not replacing the A350 for the 787. The are replacements for the old 777-200 and A 330.

    • @edv.fernandez6241
      @edv.fernandez6241 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you

    • @rtbrtb_dutchy4183
      @rtbrtb_dutchy4183 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeromeprins6164you sorta said that backwards.

    • @jeromeprins6164
      @jeromeprins6164 หลายเดือนก่อน

      J​@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183I kinda did , but you got what I was saying😂

    • @rtbrtb_dutchy4183
      @rtbrtb_dutchy4183 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeromeprins6164 yes I did. But I had to read it a few times 🤣🤣

  • @Avgeek1123
    @Avgeek1123 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

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    • @Aviaat1
      @Aviaat1  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks you! Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @Avgeek1123
      @Avgeek1123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Aviaat1 I think ur cotent is so good u deserve like 1mil subs

  • @emiellius
    @emiellius หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was here at 300 subs! Great video mate

  • @AmonakGhde
    @AmonakGhde หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What the music 0:01

  • @christainmarks106
    @christainmarks106 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Boeing in 10 years will stop making commercial passenger planes and focus on its military contracts. Opening the door for Lockheed Martin to come back to the passenger plane making business or a new up and commer

    • @se-kmg355
      @se-kmg355 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      L-1011NEO 😍

    • @fkaptijn7111
      @fkaptijn7111 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The military part of Boeing has also a lot of trouble watch to the kc 45 project

  • @Ayayau57
    @Ayayau57 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The french government has a minor stake in both Airbus and Air France-KLM and they choose the Airbus option…I believe that’s not a coincidence.

  • @5000khn
    @5000khn หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Airbus A320 is more silent compare to B737 Max. I guess A321 also is.

    • @dewyakana1543
      @dewyakana1543 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And its doors won't blow out .

    • @ramyfares9099
      @ramyfares9099 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dewyakana1543and it won’t crash

    • @Barney_the_realfish
      @Barney_the_realfish หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ramyfares9099 or fall apart mid air

  • @WingWarnings
    @WingWarnings หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nice video

    • @Aviaat1
      @Aviaat1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanksss 🙏

  • @sirafoxtron1701
    @sirafoxtron1701 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thumbnail really killed me

  • @Isaac-hr9fv
    @Isaac-hr9fv หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here before you blowup

  • @OfficialDoggyYT
    @OfficialDoggyYT 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    L choice tbh, L KLM, my country's airline just betraying like that imagine.

    • @almyor
      @almyor 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why L ?

    • @OfficialDoggyYT
      @OfficialDoggyYT 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@almyor KLM has been a almost full Boeing customer ever since 1920, thats why.

  • @LamboGhiniAventedor
    @LamboGhiniAventedor 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I swear almost every airline is turning to airbus

  • @rockyshore7017
    @rockyshore7017 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Editorial comment: the plural of "aircraft" is.... "aircraft."

  • @russellbenton2987
    @russellbenton2987 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These changes happen . In fact KLM was never a Boeing airline , it used McDonnell Douglas DC9 , DC8 and DC10s . It was quite a shock when they moved to 737s to replace DC9s . Switching from Boeing is not so huge . In any case , as part of Air France group , Air France already has A320 etc , so no great surprise .

    • @brocki95xxx
      @brocki95xxx หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh lord. McDongbell Douglas is even worse.

  • @Bellasie1
    @Bellasie1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clever airline. Bravo!

  • @Sollyst1909
    @Sollyst1909 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With the Air France-KLM Group 20% purchase of SAS Group - then it is logical as Air France and Scandinavian Airlines only use the Airbus A320 family in that size group.
    I am quite sure that the A321neo LR/XLR will decentralize the flight routes especially between Western Europe and Eastern North America. The 737 MAX cannot compete in that market. If you are not on the bandwagon with the long skinny routes, you will lose customers. With the A320 family, it will also be easier to get certified pilots, etc. to the A350, as the Airbus planes have largely identical cockpits, apart from the old A300 and A310.
    The alignment of the fleet is also found in the subsidiaries. Air France Hop, KLM Cityhopper and SAS Link, which only use Embraer E-Jet family aircrafts.

  • @Mr_blut
    @Mr_blut หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Am listin to tis while Playing gta 5 online 😂😂

  • @Actuallytryhard
    @Actuallytryhard 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think because KLM is scared of lion air flight 610 and flight 302 (not meaning any thin bad just a joke)

  • @cagrikartal96
    @cagrikartal96 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dont forget the huge effect of France and Eu was stabbed in the back by AUKUS on the submarine deals. Air france klm orders came just after as a response.

  • @evo3s75
    @evo3s75 หลายเดือนก่อน

    KLM also had problems with the 787's when they got them newly delivered.
    Cable issue's, panels sitting lose, some seats were missing some bolts or they weren't mounted correctly and also sitting lose. Boeing as an manufacturer is failing and their quality has declined a lot

  • @CAC02_
    @CAC02_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well looks like Boeing is going full military now. Let’s see who wins Boeing or Lockheed Martin.

  • @Trancial-x-tion
    @Trancial-x-tion วันที่ผ่านมา

    1 decision... Air France....

  • @LongHaulPilot
    @LongHaulPilot หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don’t forget the A350

  • @Mimi_L.
    @Mimi_L. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good. I will never fly Boeing's flying coffin airplanes.

    • @Matty12333
      @Matty12333 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How come many airlines like ryanair fly the 737 without issue?

    • @evo3s75
      @evo3s75 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Matty12333 because they fly older 737's like the NG which don't have such problems as the newer Boing jets do

  • @MeaHeaR
    @MeaHeaR หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Uthér Grate thingg
    it be keeps thé monéy inn Europé Too

  • @andrewwmacfadyen6958
    @andrewwmacfadyen6958 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When discussing sustainability how much of the airframe can recycled at end of economic life
    Carbon fibre and other composites are not suited to recycling

  • @dewyakana1543
    @dewyakana1543 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bye-bye Boeing! In AirBus I trust.

    • @CAC02_
      @CAC02_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t trust Airbus on military.

  • @garycleary7191
    @garycleary7191 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please stop using the word "aircrafts." You sound like you don't understand the aviation industry. There is no such word in the English language. Aircraft is both singular and plural.

    • @Aviaat1
      @Aviaat1  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Right, it was a mistake. Already fixed ✈

  • @xkr510
    @xkr510 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Air Canada and WestJet are filling up on the 737. Hence I avoid them where I can. Go
    Porter! Not a nasty Boeing in sight.

  • @yahyaibrahim2570
    @yahyaibrahim2570 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yahya Ahmed Ibrahim and airlines Everyone and everyone

  • @mousumimitrapal8139
    @mousumimitrapal8139 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let’s be honest 787looks best in klm livery
    (Who agrees) also not bagging👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻

  • @nathanlembke9026
    @nathanlembke9026 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well now I guess I won’t be flying KLM anymore

    • @michaelu9579
      @michaelu9579 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go on an 737 Max and never come back, fool

    • @Randomvideos-zi7pe
      @Randomvideos-zi7pe หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      bye felicia

    • @juliangriffiths9583
      @juliangriffiths9583 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I bet theyre real dissapointed that one of there thousabds of daily costumers is refusing to fly.

  • @avgreekoooo
    @avgreekoooo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Poor 737 it doesnt deserve this😭

  • @MeaHeaR
    @MeaHeaR หลายเดือนก่อน

    Iph its Bóiñgg
    I izza Ķňõtt Ģoieńg
    😟😰😩😰😟😰😩😰😟😟😰😩😨😨😨😧😦😧😩😰😟😰😩😩😩😩😨😨😳😵😶😳

  • @beagle7622
    @beagle7622 หลายเดือนก่อน

    KLM has merged with Air France recently. They are rationalising their fleet.

    • @Liams-AviationYT
      @Liams-AviationYT หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Recently?

    • @speedbrake22
      @speedbrake22 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Liams-AviationYT 'only' 20 years ago :)

  • @user-mc1dv7ms3d
    @user-mc1dv7ms3d หลายเดือนก่อน

    KLM the tax payers airline😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Matty12333
    @Matty12333 หลายเดือนก่อน

    737 are more reliable planes

    • @juliangriffiths9583
      @juliangriffiths9583 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That isnt the reason klm is switching

    • @carrickrichards2457
      @carrickrichards2457 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Are they? All evidence to the contrary!

  • @Leo_owo
    @Leo_owo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a bad video. The A32X Neo is supposed to be the latest and most modern single isle jet? Have theese guys not heard of the A220 or the Comac c919...

    • @Aviaat1
      @Aviaat1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤓

    • @colestock9980
      @colestock9980 หลายเดือนก่อน

      E-2? MC-21? (though i’m not sure it’s commercially flying yet)

    • @colonyresident7151
      @colonyresident7151 หลายเดือนก่อน

      919? What plane does the Xi ride on when he visits other countries? Why? He doesn’t trust his own product

  • @boeing747av
    @boeing747av หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    pure bullshit. KLM is not saying goodbye to the 737 for at least another 2 or 3 decades. it proves extremely profitable in flights around the EU. so what is KLM gonna use a longer range A321neo for? long transatlantic flights? pure bullshit dude. leave that job to the 777 or 787.

    • @parmentier7457
      @parmentier7457 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All KLM B737s will be replaced within a few years. 100 aircraft have been ordered, a mix of A320s and A321s. The A321s will mainly fly to destinations just outside Europe.

    • @boeing747av
      @boeing747av หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@parmentier7457 i call bullshit on all of that

    • @ramyfares9099
      @ramyfares9099 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What you are saying is also bullshit!! By 2 or 3 decades from now the 737 would turn 30 years on average, that is if they didn’t get the 737 MAX, with the youngest one delivered to KLM in December 2019 would be around 20 years of age. Of course they need a new plane and they need retirement by the next 5 years or maximum 1 decade only!! fuel efficiency would degrade over time and maintenance cost would increase over time, plane structure would fatigued even if done A-Checks, C-checks, heavy maintenance checks, etc…, so how is keeping the plane for “at least 2 or 3 decades” as you said is profitable?!

    • @ramyfares9099
      @ramyfares9099 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And forget A321neos or 737 MAXs or any other narrowbody aircraft flying outside Europe transatlantic, okay fine let 787 do the job but don’t you think their aging 777 also needed replacement for the 777X or A350? For example don’t you think KLM’s orange pride aircraft which was delivered to KLM wayy back in 2008 (16-17 years ago) needed retirement and replacement in the next coming years? Don’t you think KLM needs a newer and much more energy efficient aircraft that can even fly longer distances compared to their predecessors?

    • @boeing747av
      @boeing747av หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ramyfares9099 the 737-800 is literally proven to be one of the most fuel efficient and economical airplanes ever made. i’m confident they can last 30 years before retirement. the thing that i find crazy in this video is that they’re trying to act like KLM would retire all 737’s out of their fleet IMMEDIATELY for the A321neo, which would be a completely pointless and actually uneconomical to do. i’m still very sure the 737s in KLM’s fleet can last around 15 years but COME ON, no need to retire them immediately when they’ve only been halfway through the aircraft’s lifespan.