I agree. I genuinely want to be playing Warzone years into the future with regular updates but the way it’s going bf6 is gonna end up being the thing that stops people using the FFAR rather than a nerf
I'm not sure why they rushed it, what the fuck did they think was going to happen adding 20+ new guns from a different game over to a different engine. There's gonna be a ton of imbalance and now their completely complacent to do anything about it.
My least favorite meta is the FFAR. Sometimes my game doesn’t even let me see that i’m getting shot and when it does i get destroyed in less than a second. Thats how OP it is with that firerate
Aug is even worse, FFAR I can counter with AS Val many times. I thought DMR was ok as except for cheaters I was able to counter most people decently. Honestly even DMR felt like more skills required than Aug. You can just hit the chest with aug and the burst will put a bullet in their heads.
@@neXib god i hated getting killed by the DMR, i refused to use it so i got into lower skilled lobby's but no, i ended up being better than DMR players at out playing them
@@neXib for real and it's a 2 tap well 2 burst which is dam insane and I rather have Grau meta and stuff because it's more fun that way every gun wasn't good or bad just decent with a variety
Believe they do see this stuff. Whether it's acted upon is a whole different story. Rebirth map is good fun when you play aggressive and like using different guns, for me anyway.
I appreciate you guys a lot when you play together it makes me go through my bad times when I feel alone and this makes me feel bad for you and the other players but thank you very much for the good times and your honesty
@@emaad-k it has big changes. I had a problem playing coops on modernwarefare. It said i needed to install data packs but i did install everything. They fixed that. They also fixed 2 player splitscreen for modern warefare multiplyer where it would kick me out saying game or app error. They also made the guns from didappearing when you click on you loadouts and one of your weapons.
You know it's bad when he says that a shotgun "actually has a faster ttk from up close than ffar". I mean it's a shotgun, it should be a no brainer. Sad what has become of this game
"When the updates get even bigger and bigger." As this update was 56gb, deleted my entire game of MW so I had to redownload multiplayer, and they STILL didn't fix anything that was broken. WHAT WAS THE 60 GB. Sure, texture optimization is nice, but at least they weren't broken like the FFAR and AUG, maybe the MAC 10, M16 even. When they do nerf the AUG, the M16 will just become the meta. And the FFAR? People will just go back to the MAC.
Yeah I mean let’s hope IW can fix all of this with MW2/WW3, as long as they can be Sledgehammer, which I really hope they do, since a WW2 game will piss off the majority of the community IMO
Not sure why you think Treyarch controls Warzone. Also, did you not read the Cold War Multiplayer patch notes? Treyarch just did a ton of gun balancing.
@@iamnoblesix3088 Well Treyarch made a rubbish game in Cold War anyway so they're just as bad as Raven. They literally took 2 steps back from all the progress IW made with MW.
@@Unknown-ol2uh Sure, but that's totally irrelevant to the point. I'm saying Treyarch has nothing to do with Warzone balance, which is where this all started.
@@charliehancock2280 they have made 7-8 billion dollars from Warzone in the last year. Playing without the battle pass is difficult and makes you almost need to buy it. So it's "free to play"
Look at how much fun you're having! My squad and I have been playing rebirth for the last couple of months because of the stale mettas and rolling bugs, glitches, exploits and cheaters in regular warzone. NOW they have taken away rebirth squads so we decided to download and play Destiny 2. I remembered what fun was when we started playing Destiny 2.
i dont know what my worst meta could be because my aiming is so super bad that i never ever have a chance. i think i will switch to watch you guys play. this game makes no fun to a basic player like me anymore. this was different before.
I aprpeciate you, Jackfrags, The Tactical Brit, and any of you guys who play this together talking about this. I feel like that will make a difference. Especially since I'm a casual player and NOT of the mindset "if you can't beat them, join them." I hate the fact that if I don't level up the "meta" weapons, then I pretty much don't stand a chance. We also pretty much only play Resurgence now. Thanks for the video.
I avoid the FFAR and AUG for the same reason. I use weapons like the M16(which is amazing and not disgusting like the aug) or the Bullfrog for close range. I really don't find it interesting using always the same weapons with the same setup when you have others you can experiment with and still get amazing results..
This is a good take and I appreciate that you and Jack have been trying to put out serious messages as content creators to try and change what makes this game so stale sometimes. Because of the season 2 meta, my squad and I have been getting bored. We can always use the off-meta guns to some varying degree of success, but can always bet that near the last circles a guy with an FFAR and AUG will gun us down. With old bugs returning on top of that, I honestly don't have a reason to play the game anymore and neither do my friends. Hope Activision sees your video and turns their bullshit around by the time the new sniper comes out.
The FFAR/AUG meta is the worst ever. Not because they're op, but because they've been meta for way to long. The DMR 14 and Famas underbarrel shotgun were much stronger, but they lasted like 2 or 3 weeks. It's been like 1,5 months with the FFAR. It's not frustrating anymore, it's just exhausting.
Bruh I love watching all four of you because you get a different view of what’s going on from your perspective then westie from his video of the fennec
Warzone players: we need a new sniper cause the kar is getting out of hand COD: Lets add a one shot to every body part to make every other sniper unusable
Man it literally made me LOL when you said they’re busy with the new map. Have you heard what the new map is? I’ve heard it’s the same map but rewinds time to how it would of looked back in the 80s, you know. And honestly I wouldn’t even be surprised. They reskin so much crap. Thats why i heart BF (well atlest bf4)! The real question is with size of the update and what we got..... what they hiding now.....
Has anyone had there MW multiplayer uninstall? I went to play a quick few rounds to lv up the ram fully and i have a multiplayer pack 2, at 22gb. Yet was playing on it last week.... wtf
@@kradxx1926 yup 1.34 just up and deleted my entire MW install, then crashed my PS4 downloading one of the multiplayer data packs, corrupted something or other and started downloading 1.34 again. At that point I said fuck it and deleted the game to start over again. Maybe I'll be able to play again within a week, lol.
@@Broken_Yugo omg thats like when i got cold war. Couldnt play WZ or MW. Had to delete everything and start over... and with 2 roommates and a over loaded router it almost took 3 days. 😂 one of the main reasons i dont get to play WZ anymore. Just live it through these guys. Best of luck to ya, i feel your pain
@@itsmrmo809 dammmmmm! I feel for yah. Its funny i just downloaded what i was missing and i now have to down load more. But when i go in to the game itself (as in “manage game and add-ons) i have everything installed. But when i go to play....... it pops up not installed, theres like 5 things to download (most are for co-op, only see 2”now” for MP). Just looked and this ones only 6gb just for multiplayer. (Fyi on Xbox, i go over said game and hit start and gives me a list of things i can do with said game, like managing game and add-ons)
Not only that, on playstation I keep getting copying add ons (which takes 30mins to complete) and my game keeps refusing to connect to the internet, giving the failed to connect to services....
I agree, there cant be any reaction from the person being shot by aug or ffar, I started buying modern warfare and it is so fun, try the multiplayers like cold war and they are fun.
This group of guys and Jack are why I started playing in season 6. It was such a fun time. The Kilo meta with whatever SMG Or doof doof. Kilo because it wasn’t OP’d, it was just easy to use. Ever since Cold War, it’s gone downhill. I really hope it doesn’t shift to the Cold War engine... I would have to bail them.
Me and my friends play ribirth exclusively since it’s launch, cause warzone is just too frustrating, first the dmr and then the ffar aug, not to touch dark scins etc...
I love the fact that I'm subscribed to all you guys and have been for years because of Battlefield but this is awesome to watch you guys play the same match from all your different perspectives
I totally understand the shift to resurgence.. It's the map with way more fun and action. I play it for months now and don't think I will play verdansk soon, without any major changes. Happy to see you appreciate it as well
It's a shame. I went home last night looking forward to play but the update hadn't even finished on my Xbox. Granted it's an old Xbox one but now I wonder if I even care about it updated since nothing has changed.
@@doh5artcrimeskrew and the game just felt balanced and fun. You didn’t get melted by broken guns, and you could step out of the meta and still have a chance to win. If you try to run anything other than an AUG, M16, or FFAR, or Gallo shotgun right now you just don’t get a dub.
I only use the FFAR because I feel like if I don't I will get anihalated by everyone and their mother, I'd much rather use the kilo or something else, I still refuse to use the aug though.
Warzone was so amazingly good. It was personally the saving grace of COVID and the lockdowns for me and the boys. When I think back on “all them late nights” everyone talks about during high school, I’m gonna think about this game. When I think about my high school career, this game will be one of the most fun bits. But activision took a shit on the thing we all love, and they won’t and don’t want to fix it.
I personally have gotten annoyed of the aug and ffar, so I use the Mp7, and ffar. Mp7 I use 90% of the time and the ffar to combat other ffars and augs.
Least favorite meta for me is tied between current CW AUG and the DMR meta. Both then and now I chose to mostly play multiplayer instead, but in MP I use Wounding on almost everything and that's also currently broken, not working at all.
Well... at least you're getting in to games! After the update this week, when I try to open the game I get the "copying add on" screen EVERY time. If it does finally load after arsing around with that it will never actually find a match.
This is the worst meta. DMR/MAC was close, but this feels worse. I miss pre-integration WZ. Those were the good old days. It had problems too, but not like this. The lack of communication is really frustrating.
I have to say that the DMR meta pissed me off more than any other meta to date. The Mac10 or Dual Diamatti or FFAR or AUG, etc didn't annoy me nearly as much as the DMR. I've purposely avoided using meta guns, just to keep a little variety in my rounds, and an extra challenge for myself. Once they get needed, that's when I level those ones up. Once they get levelled up, I simply choose any other gun I haven't yet unlocked everything on.
I'm pausing until April 22nd. If this update will be as bad as the last one and I don't like the weapon balance, "new" map within a week of playing I'm done with Warzone. Maybe this strategy suits you aswell. Take care, man. I feel you
I think they need to do 2 things. 1. Make the time to kill a lot slower over all. This will make things like server connection less of a factor to determine the winner of a gun fight. It will allow players more time to react to being shot at in a gun fight. Good decision making skills and teamwork will become more of a factor to determine the winner of a gunfight. Outsmarting a player is a lot more satisfying than winning because of peekers advantage in my opinion. It will also make it easier for teams to decide to move around a lot more without fear of being killed before you even realise your being shot at. Gunfights will last longer and have more dynamics. 2. Make the defining stats (the pros and cons) of weapon classes (ie. snipers, AR’s, SMG, etc) a lot more dramatic eg. For snipers decrease the movement speed but increase the damage range. Increase the recoil and bullet spread of ARS. An AR should not be able to counter a sniper at range. But with speed and co-ordinated cover fire maybe they can close the gap. There will never not be a meta. But I believe with more dramatic pros and cons between gun classes in general there could be different metas for different play-styles. A few other things I’d personally like to see but think a lot of others would disagree with is... I’d like to see the class setup similar to COD ghost brought back. Get rid of the three perk groups to select one from each. Make OP perks and attachments cost more and subtle ones cost less. By being able to choose to have less perks for more weapon attachments etc would be so interesting and create more variety in the meta with all the different combo options. I’d also like to see the players stats like movement speed be affected by their entire kit at any given time. No more moving slow as with an LMG and then switching to an SMG and magically turning into Usain Bolt. Make players consider the pros and cons of their load outs at any given time. Make them consider the consequences of picking up or dropping certain weapons or ammo at any given time. Are you the last man on your squad and are you being closed down by a full squad. Do you hold onto your weapons cash and ammo and try to defend yourself or do you ditch the weight in hopes to out run them? Does that squad trying to close the gap on a sniper ditch a bit of gear to help them dodge and close the gap faster? Warzone is a big map with a lot of big spaces between built up spaces. Longer range weapons will naturally always be supreme. The movement speed factor would be a great way to balance them out better I feel.
The lack of communication is pretty shocking honestly. I mean we're not even getting the full patch notes currently but have to wait for a couple of extra days after release for members of the community to figure out the changes .
That’s why I never follow the crowd when it comes to meta weapons. But I’m most definitely going to focus on getting better at these battle Royale games.
YES TOMO YES, I WAS SO DISAPOINTED WITH NO CHANGES. I stopped playing solo's for whole week because I just coldest stand the ffar and/or aug. im not trying to shit on the players using these guns, im just trying to say to be fair, I honestly believes at lest 30% out of that 80% does not even want to use these dominant guns as they are just using them to not feel frustrated and be able to play the game. Thank you for the word! please spread it! because honestly, if this continues on to the new map and the game become unplayable, I honestly dont know what to do or play. Thank you!
I've already uninstalled. It was bad enough dealing with broken weapons, sbmm, cheaters, glitches, and increasingly poor performance on my first gen xbox one, but the addition of zombies, ridiculous skins and blueprints, etc. as they continue moving away from the more serious tone and 'realism' of MW, has completely ruined the game for me. The exaggerated 80s action movie style of CW is such a worn out trope, and WZ is starting to feel more and more like the 'wall running cyborgs with jetpacks and lasers' era of CoD.
thank you for speaking out. This is by far the most upsetting "update" to warzone. I kinda hope a new game comes out soon to knock this one out. Come on BF6!
I refused to use the aug in warzone until it was even out gunning my snipers at range just because of flinch. I put a aug on my sniper class just to be able to compete. I originally used the m4a1 or as i call it ole reliable but it just couldn’t keep up with the aug or ffar so i went with the aug and sniper
We were just talking about this today. I never used these op weapons. My favourite ones were always the kar the SKS and the mp7. Those are the weapons I am using :) Great Video sirs :) thank you (and I would love to see a dragunov buff or mk2 )
They have to nerf and balance put the Cold War guns. I don't hate Cold War guns, it's a new mix and I like it. But the Meta and the TTK is too much. You can barely be able to fight back against an AUG, FFAR, or a M16.
Totally agree with this, I did enjoy the M16 when it was Meta but not totally absurd. Current favourite loadout is MW M4A1 and MW MP5. The M4A1 seems to be the only gun that has been consistently good in every season!
I haven’t played war zone in over a month now because of this. I still watch the videos because you and the guys are so good at the game and you do not get so frustrated. There are times that you still do get frustrated obviously, but if you guys ,that your job is to game, get defeated so easily by the meta, what are us average gamers supposed to do about it?
It feels like they don’t have anyone working on gameplay and balancing as a full time job. Literally it would take one person looking at the most used guns (using that handy website) and then saying if 80% of people are using the same guns, that needs to change. Or even get a few trusted content creators to actually work with them on balancing. JGod, truegamedata, driftor etc would help in a heartbeat
I would love to see you use the Jak-12 and Streetsweeper as well as the Gallo. All three are very viable, even in FFAR Zone. The JAK-12's speed nurf still hurts but the Streetsweeper is slept on.
I just want to be able to use the zombies mastery camo I grinded for just like the people who grind for it in multiplayer. The said it would come at the beginning of season 2 didn’t happen. Now we’ve had season 2 reloaded and it’s still not here.
I feel the reload has improved on season 1 and 2 so far but warzone feels so odd since season 1 started. Games feel weird, one day you play and everythings fine the next you can't hit anything, there's invisible walls on buildings, you're getting 2 bursted by an aug from 200m
My favorite meta in warzone is getting perma banned before i even played a single match. Something something application running on my system the anticheat didn't like, but didn't warn either, just threw out directx generic errors.
Started playing a little bit before the DMR14 meta, I generally enjoyed it and i lived through the DMR meta but this rn... This is just ridiculous, Tom is right, 80% of players in Battle Royal are using the absolute exact same loadout. FFAR and Aug...
Warzone is a mess right now, my boys and I only play resurgence.. its the only way we can fully enjoy the game, trying offmeta loadouts and just doing what we want. Both modes are riddled with the FFAR and AUG, but rebirth feels less AUG-filled and more FFAR Mac-10. Either way, I hope the devs see your video cause all I heard was FACTS
I'm not even a big gamer, nor do I enjoy gameplay videos, but this group of guys has me laughing from commentary most days. I'm actually buying a new computer soon to get more into video editing, but I definitely will be downloading Warzone just in hopes to play with these guys some day.
Since I started to play this game, I only took a break from it two times. 1. DMR meta: after a week of suffering I was done with it. 2. AUG/FFAR meta: after multiple MONTHS I'm done with it. Did you notice? Both times are because of Cold War. I'll just quit playing Warzone until the Modern Warfare weapons drop because (in my opinion) Cold War sucks.
I don't understand why game companies feel a 'meta' needs to exist. Destiny 2 is the same... Rather than making 2 weapons or weapon types OP every season.. just balance EVERYTHING to be competitive. I am glad to hear you say that burst weapons should have a place, because I completely agree, they should, and I wish they'd buff the burst rifle from MW a bit. But the AUG, as much as I love the gun normally, is way to strong right now.
I had 6 almost totally different loadouts which gave me a win here and there but atleast brought me into final circle reguarly and being totally usable. Miss that time...
@@SupremeDean yeah i now have 9 loadouts for memeing after i get a win and one loadout to get me that first win. bet you can guess what guns are in the "need a win" loadout.
Oh, the DMR was horrific. But the current FFAR and burst weapons are also horrendous. I try to keep off meta for the most time because I don's like them. But it's hard. The FFAR ground loot is a guaranteed win up close after a drop.
Everything went south after the Cold War integration. Season 6 was some of the best Warzone fun I ever had. Change is needed, and fast.
I agree. I genuinely want to be playing Warzone years into the future with regular updates but the way it’s going bf6 is gonna end up being the thing that stops people using the FFAR rather than a nerf
same season 6 was the best snd the integration was a bad thing
I'm not sure why they rushed it, what the fuck did they think was going to happen adding 20+ new guns from a different game over to a different engine. There's gonna be a ton of imbalance and now their completely complacent to do anything about it.
it’s cos of raven. Infinity wars were WAAYYY better
Yep. Not gonna happen though.
We need a full resurgence playlist. Quads, Trios, Duos, Solos.
For solos it could be “Buy Back Resurgence” for the lack of rebirth, I would love that .
All solos should be buyback.
i think only quads and trios as its quite hard to get a full lobby and dont think there is enough players to do all 4
I agree
@@c_k_90 guess what
-Most of the people turn to playing rebirth island
-Activision: let's remove quads from rebirth and have only duos playlist
Unbelievable
My least favorite meta is the FFAR. Sometimes my game doesn’t even let me see that i’m getting shot and when it does i get destroyed in less than a second. Thats how OP it is with that firerate
Any CW weapon is my least fav meta, ESPECIALLY THE DMR
same with the other metas at the moment. the kilo, FAL, etc were never this bad
Aug is even worse, FFAR I can counter with AS Val many times. I thought DMR was ok as except for cheaters I was able to counter most people decently. Honestly even DMR felt like more skills required than Aug. You can just hit the chest with aug and the burst will put a bullet in their heads.
@@neXib god i hated getting killed by the DMR, i refused to use it so i got into lower skilled lobby's but no, i ended up being better than DMR players at out playing them
@@neXib for real and it's a 2 tap well 2 burst which is dam insane and I rather have Grau meta and stuff because it's more fun that way every gun wasn't good or bad just decent with a variety
Bruh we need Activision to see this
They probably will and won't consider anything lmao
Believe they do see this stuff. Whether it's acted upon is a whole different story. Rebirth map is good fun when you play aggressive and like using different guns, for me anyway.
What’s the point that company is beyond useless
It wouldn’t make a difference
THEY DON'T CARE
“Jack’s frag” nice one
Tomo singing pop songs and Stod shouting, "between two ferns!!!" Nobody else is creating FPS content that speaks so directly to my heart.
I’ve literally watched this match from the whole squads viewpoint. 😂
I was just about to write the same🤣
@@POPPA-KLUMP +1 :)
Honestly the gap between the DMR/MAC and AUG(M16)/FFAR was fun. A lot of weapons were viable.
I appreciate you guys a lot when you play together it makes me go through my bad times when I feel alone and this makes me feel bad for you and the other players but thank you very much for the good times and your honesty
Could this update be the most epic April Fools prank??
That’s what I’m praying for lol and the “new map leak” aka a re-skinned Verdansk I hope is a April fools joke also
Yeah I am really hoping that big ass update that we had to download has some hidden changes.
@@emaad-k it has big changes. I had a problem playing coops on modernwarefare. It said i needed to install data packs but i did install everything. They fixed that.
They also fixed 2 player splitscreen for modern warefare multiplyer where it would kick me out saying game or app error. They also made the guns from didappearing when you click on you loadouts and one of your weapons.
@@walker11907 i just hope it's not what you're paying for
I want to say that if the devs don’t fix this then the game will die, but the reality is people (including me) will still play it
it's been 3 months that I stopped playing
I threw In the towel a few days ago and finally am trying Apex and I'm actually having fun
@@MehmetUygun yeah... I've been playing on and off since the CW integration
damn these weapons hit harder then i thought
damn these weapons hit harder then i thought
I am still hoping for an FOV Slider on console. I have the PC version but I feel more comfortable on consoles when it comes to shooters
Now we got people with FFARs getting foresight and popping up a tent in final zone
You know it's bad when he says that a shotgun "actually has a faster ttk from up close than ffar". I mean it's a shotgun, it should be a no brainer. Sad what has become of this game
"When the updates get even bigger and bigger." As this update was 56gb, deleted my entire game of MW so I had to redownload multiplayer, and they STILL didn't fix anything that was broken. WHAT WAS THE 60 GB. Sure, texture optimization is nice, but at least they weren't broken like the FFAR and AUG, maybe the MAC 10, M16 even. When they do nerf the AUG, the M16 will just become the meta. And the FFAR? People will just go back to the MAC.
Treyarch is too busy trying to force zombies into it to worry about balance. IW can't come back soon enough.
Yeah I mean let’s hope IW can fix all of this with MW2/WW3, as long as they can be Sledgehammer, which I really hope they do, since a WW2 game will piss off the majority of the community IMO
Treyarch have nothing to do with Warzone, that is Raven's job
Not sure why you think Treyarch controls Warzone. Also, did you not read the Cold War Multiplayer patch notes? Treyarch just did a ton of gun balancing.
@@iamnoblesix3088 Well Treyarch made a rubbish game in Cold War anyway so they're just as bad as Raven. They literally took 2 steps back from all the progress IW made with MW.
@@Unknown-ol2uh Sure, but that's totally irrelevant to the point. I'm saying Treyarch has nothing to do with Warzone balance, which is where this all started.
i hope Battlefield 6 buries this game. THIS is what we get for $3B??? WTAF
Yeah bro
i mean it’s a free game
@@charliehancock2280 they have made 7-8 billion dollars from Warzone in the last year. Playing without the battle pass is difficult and makes you almost need to buy it. So it's "free to play"
@@charliehancock2280 what position are you at Activision??? head fluffer?
@@sir_charles8465 how is it difficult to play without the battle pass😂😂😂. That the biggest load of nonsense I’ve ever heard
Look at how much fun you're having! My squad and I have been playing rebirth for the last couple of months because of the stale mettas and rolling bugs, glitches, exploits and cheaters in regular warzone. NOW they have taken away rebirth squads so we decided to download and play Destiny 2. I remembered what fun was when we started playing Destiny 2.
i dont know what my worst meta could be because my aiming is so super bad that i never ever have a chance. i think i will switch to watch you guys play. this game makes no fun to a basic player like me anymore. this was different before.
I aprpeciate you, Jackfrags, The Tactical Brit, and any of you guys who play this together talking about this. I feel like that will make a difference. Especially since I'm a casual player and NOT of the mindset "if you can't beat them, join them." I hate the fact that if I don't level up the "meta" weapons, then I pretty much don't stand a chance. We also pretty much only play Resurgence now. Thanks for the video.
I avoid the FFAR and AUG for the same reason. I use weapons like the M16(which is amazing and not disgusting like the aug) or the Bullfrog for close range. I really don't find it interesting using always the same weapons with the same setup when you have others you can experiment with and still get amazing results..
This is a good take and I appreciate that you and Jack have been trying to put out serious messages as content creators to try and change what makes this game so stale sometimes.
Because of the season 2 meta, my squad and I have been getting bored. We can always use the off-meta guns to some varying degree of success, but can always bet that near the last circles a guy with an FFAR and AUG will gun us down. With old bugs returning on top of that, I honestly don't have a reason to play the game anymore and neither do my friends.
Hope Activision sees your video and turns their bullshit around by the time the new sniper comes out.
The FFAR/AUG meta is the worst ever. Not because they're op, but because they've been meta for way to long. The DMR 14 and Famas underbarrel shotgun were much stronger, but they lasted like 2 or 3 weeks. It's been like 1,5 months with the FFAR. It's not frustrating anymore, it's just exhausting.
Bruh I love watching all four of you because you get a different view of what’s going on from your perspective then westie from his video of the fennec
Warzone players: we need a new sniper cause the kar is getting out of hand
COD: Lets add a one shot to every body part to make every other sniper unusable
Man it literally made me LOL when you said they’re busy with the new map. Have you heard what the new map is? I’ve heard it’s the same map but rewinds time to how it would of looked back in the 80s, you know. And honestly I wouldn’t even be surprised. They reskin so much crap. Thats why i heart BF (well atlest bf4)! The real question is with size of the update and what we got..... what they hiding now.....
Has anyone had there MW multiplayer uninstall? I went to play a quick few rounds to lv up the ram fully and i have a multiplayer pack 2, at 22gb. Yet was playing on it last week.... wtf
@@kradxx1926 yup 1.34 just up and deleted my entire MW install, then crashed my PS4 downloading one of the multiplayer data packs, corrupted something or other and started downloading 1.34 again. At that point I said fuck it and deleted the game to start over again. Maybe I'll be able to play again within a week, lol.
@@Broken_Yugo omg thats like when i got cold war. Couldnt play WZ or MW. Had to delete everything and start over... and with 2 roommates and a over loaded router it almost took 3 days. 😂 one of the main reasons i dont get to play WZ anymore. Just live it through these guys.
Best of luck to ya, i feel your pain
@@kradxx1926 Yup, just happened to me, I've had to reinstall everything and when it "finished" I had to do it again, and then again another time
@@itsmrmo809 dammmmmm! I feel for yah. Its funny i just downloaded what i was missing and i now have to down load more. But when i go in to the game itself (as in “manage game and add-ons) i have everything installed. But when i go to play....... it pops up not installed, theres like 5 things to download (most are for co-op, only see 2”now” for MP). Just looked and this ones only 6gb just for multiplayer.
(Fyi on Xbox, i go over said game and hit start and gives me a list of things i can do with said game, like managing game and add-ons)
Not only that, on playstation I keep getting copying add ons (which takes 30mins to complete) and my game keeps refusing to connect to the internet, giving the failed to connect to services....
that AR ammo struggle, the whole game LOL
We need to see that Lt.Custard and Marley game!
Wait they played together?!
@@adamaiman6773 Yeah you can see their names in one of the clips at the beginning of the video!
i didn't even see that lol
i bet marley try one bullet headshot :P
I don't play it anymore as im not having fun. Im dead before i even know im being shot at 90% of the time
I agree, there cant be any reaction from the person being shot by aug or ffar, I started buying modern warfare and it is so fun, try the multiplayers like cold war and they are fun.
The kilo/mp5 meta was so much fun to me I wish we could go back to something like that
A lot of metas were cool before CW. Game was less sweaty.
I quite liked it when WarZone was hot off the shelf and no one knew what people were doing
U can still use whatever u want man why do u have to look at others and look at meta's,just trust your own skill with the weapons
@@CaptainJleeb yeah I don’t use meta weapons I quite like just using dumb weapons put dumb ass attachments on the weapon
This group of guys and Jack are why I started playing in season 6. It was such a fun time. The Kilo meta with whatever SMG Or doof doof. Kilo because it wasn’t OP’d, it was just easy to use. Ever since Cold War, it’s gone downhill. I really hope it doesn’t shift to the Cold War engine... I would have to bail them.
Gallo Shotgun + Amax
I fr only played this loadout while the DMR + akimbo matter was a thing. This things shreds like nothing else up close.
It's a really great combo!
Yh but it got recoil but it shreds tho
Me and my friends play ribirth exclusively since it’s launch, cause warzone is just too frustrating, first the dmr and then the ffar aug, not to touch dark scins etc...
Lets talk about where you got that sweet looking wooden barrel on the AMAX... which blueprint is this???
Called "Enigma". From the stadium easter egg thing. Unfortunately won't be available now.
@@SupremeDean Doh! Thanks!
I love the fact that I'm subscribed to all you guys and have been for years because of Battlefield but this is awesome to watch you guys play the same match from all your different perspectives
I totally understand the shift to resurgence.. It's the map with way more fun and action. I play it for months now and don't think I will play verdansk soon, without any major changes. Happy to see you appreciate it as well
And thats why I chose to grind Damascus now, so I don’t have to put up with this bs
i instantly knew you were going to make a video on this lol
It's a shame. I went home last night looking forward to play but the update hadn't even finished on my Xbox. Granted it's an old Xbox one but now I wonder if I even care about it updated since nothing has changed.
Tom! I highly recommend trying a ranged Grozna build with the Milspec Barrel. I think you would really enjoy the feel and ttk of the weapon!
Ye no damage dropoff whatsoever with the Milspec barrel.
@@gavenncabaluna5554 exactly! Its so good and it stands up really well against the Aug Ffar meta
Warzone was at its best during the Halloween event.
definitely agree with you, the night modes were just epic
@@doh5artcrimeskrew and the game just felt balanced and fun. You didn’t get melted by broken guns, and you could step out of the meta and still have a chance to win. If you try to run anything other than an AUG, M16, or FFAR, or Gallo shotgun right now you just don’t get a dub.
Absolute facts and nothing but, I had so much freaking fun during the Night/Zombie Royale matches, the game was definitely at its peak at that time
Best limited time game mode on warzone BY FAR
@@supremechicken3397 by ffar lol
I only use the FFAR because I feel like if I don't I will get anihalated by everyone and their mother, I'd much rather use the kilo or something else, I still refuse to use the aug though.
Bro i laugh because u said " i only use the ffar because i feel like if i dont i will get anihalated by everyone and their MOTHER"
Warzone was so amazingly good. It was personally the saving grace of COVID and the lockdowns for me and the boys. When I think back on “all them late nights” everyone talks about during high school, I’m gonna think about this game. When I think about my high school career, this game will be one of the most fun bits. But activision took a shit on the thing we all love, and they won’t and don’t want to fix it.
Its been good when it was only MW content.
Warzone became broken when CW integrated happen.
I agree with you, me and my friends moved over to resurgence pretty much ever since Cold War was added to warzine as it’s been so dull on verdansk
The only patch changes now are the file sizes.
I personally have gotten annoyed of the aug and ffar, so I use the Mp7, and ffar. Mp7 I use 90% of the time and the ffar to combat other ffars and augs.
I use the modern warfare crossbow for some variaty
Thank you for speaking out for us, Tomo 🙏🏻 Love the gameplay!
Least favorite meta for me is tied between current CW AUG and the DMR meta. Both then and now I chose to mostly play multiplayer instead, but in MP I use Wounding on almost everything and that's also currently broken, not working at all.
Well... at least you're getting in to games! After the update this week, when I try to open the game I get the "copying add on" screen EVERY time. If it does finally load after arsing around with that it will never actually find a match.
This is the worst meta. DMR/MAC was close, but this feels worse.
I miss pre-integration WZ. Those were the good old days. It had problems too, but not like this.
The lack of communication is really frustrating.
The subtle Purple Aki reference...You know you wanna touch these muscles Tom.
Everyone knows purple ackee he's got to be a myth like the bogeyman
He does love a squeeze.
I have to say that the DMR meta pissed me off more than any other meta to date. The Mac10 or Dual Diamatti or FFAR or AUG, etc didn't annoy me nearly as much as the DMR.
I've purposely avoided using meta guns, just to keep a little variety in my rounds, and an extra challenge for myself. Once they get needed, that's when I level those ones up. Once they get levelled up, I simply choose any other gun I haven't yet unlocked everything on.
FFAR and AUG are fcked up. I think Activision said hey let's prank em for the 1st
This has actually been the final straw for me, I'll be unistalling this week if there are no changes or at least talk of changes
Sure you will.
I'm pausing until April 22nd. If this update will be as bad as the last one and I don't like the weapon balance, "new" map within a week of playing I'm done with Warzone. Maybe this strategy suits you aswell. Take care, man. I feel you
I think they need to do 2 things.
1. Make the time to kill a lot slower over all. This will make things like server connection less of a factor to determine the winner of a gun fight. It will allow players more time to react to being shot at in a gun fight. Good decision making skills and teamwork will become more of a factor to determine the winner of a gunfight. Outsmarting a player is a lot more satisfying than winning because of peekers advantage in my opinion. It will also make it easier for teams to decide to move around a lot more without fear of being killed before you even realise your being shot at. Gunfights will last longer and have more dynamics.
2. Make the defining stats (the pros and cons) of weapon classes (ie. snipers, AR’s, SMG, etc) a lot more dramatic eg. For snipers decrease the movement speed but increase the damage range. Increase the recoil and bullet spread of ARS. An AR should not be able to counter a sniper at range. But with speed and co-ordinated cover fire maybe they can close the gap. There will never not be a meta. But I believe with more dramatic pros and cons between gun classes in general there could be different metas for different play-styles.
A few other things I’d personally like to see but think a lot of others would disagree with is...
I’d like to see the class setup similar to COD ghost brought back. Get rid of the three perk groups to select one from each. Make OP perks and attachments cost more and subtle ones cost less. By being able to choose to have less perks for more weapon attachments etc would be so interesting and create more variety in the meta with all the different combo options.
I’d also like to see the players stats like movement speed be affected by their entire kit at any given time. No more moving slow as with an LMG and then switching to an SMG and magically turning into Usain Bolt. Make players consider the pros and cons of their load outs at any given time. Make them consider the consequences of picking up or dropping certain weapons or ammo at any given time. Are you the last man on your squad and are you being closed down by a full squad. Do you hold onto your weapons cash and ammo and try to defend yourself or do you ditch the weight in hopes to out run them? Does that squad trying to close the gap on a sniper ditch a bit of gear to help them dodge and close the gap faster? Warzone is a big map with a lot of big spaces between built up spaces. Longer range weapons will naturally always be supreme. The movement speed factor would be a great way to balance them out better I feel.
i started playing mid end season 6
The lack of communication is pretty shocking honestly. I mean we're not even getting the full patch notes currently but have to wait for a couple of extra days after release for members of the community to figure out the changes .
That’s why I never follow the crowd when it comes to meta weapons. But I’m most definitely going to focus on getting better at these battle Royale games.
M4A1 and MP5 works very well
@@trevormachia9911 ok I might try that weapon class out because I switch them up every now and then
@@BloodSport82 Grenadier Barrel, Monolithic, Commando, 60 Rnd and VLK 3x. Meta MP5
Rebirth Island is absolutely insane.
I love watching people actually not dying!
The amount of deaths in this game is hilarious.
My least favourite meta is this one rn Im so tired of the ffar and aug I cant see them anymore
YES TOMO YES, I WAS SO DISAPOINTED WITH NO CHANGES. I stopped playing solo's for whole week because I just coldest stand the ffar and/or aug. im not trying to shit on the players using these guns, im just trying to say to be fair, I honestly believes at lest 30% out of that 80% does not even want to use these dominant guns as they are just using them to not feel frustrated and be able to play the game. Thank you for the word! please spread it! because honestly, if this continues on to the new map and the game become unplayable, I honestly dont know what to do or play. Thank you!
Tomographic, have you ever noticed that when you tactical run with the spas-12 you’re hand neither connects and phases through you’re gun?
i love the comms lol
I've already uninstalled. It was bad enough dealing with broken weapons, sbmm, cheaters, glitches, and increasingly poor performance on my first gen xbox one, but the addition of zombies, ridiculous skins and blueprints, etc. as they continue moving away from the more serious tone and 'realism' of MW, has completely ruined the game for me. The exaggerated 80s action movie style of CW is such a worn out trope, and WZ is starting to feel more and more like the 'wall running cyborgs with jetpacks and lasers' era of CoD.
Absolutely agree with you my friend
thank you for speaking out. This is by far the most upsetting "update" to warzone. I kinda hope a new game comes out soon to knock this one out. Come on BF6!
I refused to use the aug in warzone until it was even out gunning my snipers at range just because of flinch. I put a aug on my sniper class just to be able to compete. I originally used the m4a1 or as i call it ole reliable but it just couldn’t keep up with the aug or ffar so i went with the aug and sniper
We were just talking about this today. I never used these op weapons. My favourite ones were always the kar the SKS and the mp7. Those are the weapons I am using :)
Great Video sirs :) thank you (and I would love to see a dragunov buff or mk2 )
They have to nerf and balance put the Cold War guns. I don't hate Cold War guns, it's a new mix and I like it. But the Meta and the TTK is too much. You can barely be able to fight back against an AUG, FFAR, or a M16.
I haven’t played since AUG and FFAR became meta. Warzone is equivalent to a toxic relationship you have with a significant other.
Totally agree with this, I did enjoy the M16 when it was Meta but not totally absurd. Current favourite loadout is MW M4A1 and MW MP5. The M4A1 seems to be the only gun that has been consistently good in every season!
I haven’t played war zone in over a month now because of this. I still watch the videos because you and the guys are so good at the game and you do not get so frustrated. There are times that you still do get frustrated obviously, but if you guys ,that your job is to game, get defeated so easily by the meta, what are us average gamers supposed to do about it?
I just so happened to catch this match on TacticalBrit's channel, twas a great one. hilarious comms
Tom You saved warzone! Every match i see more and more variety and i even died to a fr.556 Your video made a huge dent into metas
Love the content bro
Love your content Tom great work!
Hello Tomo, thanks for speaking truth! plus I always wanted to see how pros would play on the island, great gameplay,thanks for the content!
It feels like they don’t have anyone working on gameplay and balancing as a full time job. Literally it would take one person looking at the most used guns (using that handy website) and then saying if 80% of people are using the same guns, that needs to change. Or even get a few trusted content creators to actually work with them on balancing. JGod, truegamedata, driftor etc would help in a heartbeat
I would love to see you use the Jak-12 and Streetsweeper as well as the Gallo. All three are very viable, even in FFAR Zone. The JAK-12's speed nurf still hurts but the Streetsweeper is slept on.
I really want the rebirth resurgence quads back as a standard honestly, it's sooo much fun compared to main warzone
Not even mentioning the new EASY TO DO invisibility glitch... I got killed by invisible players in 3/5 games... not playing until it is sorted.
I feel the same Tomo you nailed it.
I just want to be able to use the zombies mastery camo I grinded for just like the people who grind for it in multiplayer. The said it would come at the beginning of season 2 didn’t happen. Now we’ve had season 2 reloaded and it’s still not here.
Oh boy here we go again.
Honestly feel the same way, haven't been In a warzone match since every match is ffar and Aug I've just been on rebirth
I would love to see warzone use the PUBG style of finding weapons AND attachments on the ground. I think this would change up the game entirely
I actually hated DMR a tad bit more. I rarely use the FFAR & AUG as well. I struggle with the Amax’s recoil though
I feel the reload has improved on season 1 and 2 so far but warzone feels so odd since season 1 started. Games feel weird, one day you play and everythings fine the next you can't hit anything, there's invisible walls on buildings, you're getting 2 bursted by an aug from 200m
My favorite meta in warzone is getting perma banned before i even played a single match. Something something application running on my system the anticheat didn't like, but didn't warn either, just threw out directx generic errors.
Started playing a little bit before the DMR14 meta, I generally enjoyed it and i lived through the DMR meta but this rn... This is just ridiculous, Tom is right, 80% of players in Battle Royal are using the absolute exact same loadout. FFAR and Aug...
Warzone is a mess right now, my boys and I only play resurgence.. its the only way we can fully enjoy the game, trying offmeta loadouts and just doing what we want. Both modes are riddled with the FFAR and AUG, but rebirth feels less AUG-filled and more FFAR Mac-10. Either way, I hope the devs see your video cause all I heard was FACTS
I'm not even a big gamer, nor do I enjoy gameplay videos, but this group of guys has me laughing from commentary most days. I'm actually buying a new computer soon to get more into video editing, but I definitely will be downloading Warzone just in hopes to play with these guys some day.
Since I started to play this game, I only took a break from it two times.
1. DMR meta: after a week of suffering I was done with it.
2. AUG/FFAR meta: after multiple MONTHS I'm done with it.
Did you notice? Both times are because of Cold War.
I'll just quit playing Warzone until the Modern Warfare weapons drop because (in my opinion) Cold War sucks.
I don't understand why game companies feel a 'meta' needs to exist. Destiny 2 is the same... Rather than making 2 weapons or weapon types OP every season.. just balance EVERYTHING to be competitive.
I am glad to hear you say that burst weapons should have a place, because I completely agree, they should, and I wish they'd buff the burst rifle from MW a bit. But the AUG, as much as I love the gun normally, is way to strong right now.
I’ve gone from playing most days when lockdown first hit to playing maybe twice a week. A lot of the people I played with back then are the same.
the week before cold war integration is the last time i had fun in warzone. they broke it in so many different ways.
I had 6 almost totally different loadouts which gave me a win here and there but atleast brought me into final circle reguarly and being totally usable. Miss that time...
@@SupremeDean yeah i now have 9 loadouts for memeing after i get a win and one loadout to get me that first win. bet you can guess what guns are in the "need a win" loadout.
@@boyxgamer please don't make me say the names of the guns... 🙈
Oh, the DMR was horrific. But the current FFAR and burst weapons are also horrendous. I try to keep off meta for the most time because I don's like them. But it's hard. The FFAR ground loot is a guaranteed win up close after a drop.
We all thought the grau meta was bad..... little did we know
We were happy and we didn't know it
Great video! Verdansk can wait until they nerf the FFAR/AUG. Keep up with the fun to watch videos.