here's a couple things that you should check out if you're into building fire tank: 1. you don't need fearing fire! fire tank is by far the most threat i've seen on tank, and i can even pull from other tanks just by using judgement and seal of fervor. 2. Blaze ward is redundant, echoing power is a far better option and it's on demand with 100% uptime. Booming echoes makes it even better. 3. Blazing barrier is amazing. it will mitigate several thousand damage, and give you a strong aoe at the end. You need to roll combustion and invest some points that are weird for tank, but it's a great defensive cd and it's always up. 4. Dragon's breath or Blast Wave, pick one but both is way too much for an optimal rotation. 5. You can trade fire talents for survivability talents, which you seem to have done! But fire tank is all about the fire damage and threat. Save the big survivability for another build and just go ham with Templar. Aoe pulls, i'm top dps by far with about 6k dps. Stay alive tho! -Tanksy
4:09 I built a flame tank a couple weeks ago using this enchant as well. My was MFB-based with Blaze Ward, the Blast Wave -no-knockback- enchant and Defensive Magic. This way, whenever I cast Flamestrike, I do additional AoE damage if someone hits me while casting, which is every time as a tank. I think I had Retribution Aura, the mage Fire Armor thing and thorns. Judgement was built up to attack at a distance and deal AoE damage on top of giving some mana regen. It was not only a beefy tank, but also did somewhere between 1.5k and 2kdps depending on the pull. Also really simple to play. Hit your judgements every time they're up, throw down flamestrike, consecration and blast wave whenever they came up. I think I also had a talent that increased the range of blast wave to 16yds... Easy to play, decent dps and really good tanking overall.
As always, thank you McDoubles for your content. I appreciate that you just enjoy playing the game, it makes your content a lot more enjoyable and you give some of us the opportunity to see the great work both you and the Ascension team put into this game.
Happy New Year McDoubles! I started playing Ascension because your vids came up in my youtube feed. I used to play retail WoW a lot, and this def brought me back. As someone who played a tank for a long time, this build definitely appeals to me. IGN: Mikomi on Thrall.
Been watching you for years now and you always bring me back to Ascension, would love to see a video where you try and solo dungeons. A one man army build
The last version of the RE was able to get down to a 6 sec rotation with Blast Wave>Flame Strike>Judgement>Flamestrike>Repeat. The new build's rotation is now a 9 sec rotation to make it feel smooth being Blast Wave>Flame Strike>Dragon's Breath>Flame Strike>Judgement>Flamestrike>Repeat. EDIT: Heavy use of cd reduction talents and green res were used btw to get down to those rotation times.
Can do the first Rota with just 3 cooldown reductions and a controlled blast enchant. - Judgement turns from 7s to 5.5s. - Blast wave turns from 20s to 10s (Controlled Blast -10s CD) to 6s due to 2 Flame Strikes (‐2s each). The big question is: is trying to CD reduce DB worth it?
I've been trying to make this build for a while now, with no blast wave, dragons breath or combustion cards.. normal or lucky 😂 I'm going to live my experience through you, thank you! Such a fun tank build with insane aoe delight!
This was the first tank build that i actually wanted to make on s8, and tbh I was able to make it work SUPER well without blastwave or db. Eventually I was able to HoF DB and combustion, but you really don't need them to build Templar. Stick with it, so fun!
@vividimaginer funnily enough I must have called Ascension's bluff.. I got a blast wave card today 😂 but thank you I really enjoyed it on S7! Looking forward to it now I can roll it again
27:45 Actually, as a healer, it's perfectly fine for the tank to pull with low health. While I encourage to always have an eye for his/her position before pulling, sometimes we let our hots tick or wait for more dmg taken so we don't overheal. Granted, there are some builds that don't care for overheals, like overflow, but generally it's a portion of the mana cost wasted.
I found my enjoyment for wow once again after I started watching your videos, Big McD! Wish you the best, love your content, had a blast with all the servers you showcase. - Tipsout, Thrall Edit: XD
Thanks for all the videos love your dragon flight videos appreciate everything you last season I had two handed fire tank he was super fun and great aoe fun tank….. kreg?? Reborn once again….. thank you again. Damo
Oh man the first 14 minutes was rough, I used to main this spec and i kept thinking "just use judgement!" the cycle of judgement and flamestrike is all you need haha. Also id like to add that templar of flame is a really good spec for 2h parry tanking. that sword you got was perfect.
If you're going Flamestrike and DB, you want Playing with Fire. Direct damage fire spells (Flamestrike) reduces the cooldown of Dragon's Breath by 1 second, per target hit, crits double. So you could quite easily just go DB > Flamestrike > DB > Flamestrike > Repeat. Didn't get enough to reset it? Blast Wave. - Pelo, Thrall
Also... I make a Dark Surgeon tank. It actually does pretty well. You can find it on the Hero Builder thing. I think you'd enjoy it. See if you can make one better than mine. :D
More Mcdoubles videos just equals more happiness, loving the content. Have tried this build as DPS before as well xD; wishing to see/hear some of the older music again. Thrall: Twiet | Moreina
Fire tank archetype got a Great LRE. Love how it plays. And while it is not the strongest, being able to make combustion a defensive CD via an ERE is so thematic
I just remember last season you'd join a raid/BG and basically 99% of people had different builds. You'd whisper them and talk about theory crafting.... then this season all the content is tuned around meta specs. So creates what we all hated about retail imo - good shit - Eyedia
happy new year McDoubles and i am build an working atonement healer on area52 and an good range weapon damage auto shot hunter with an possible range attack speed when all is active from 115%
Hey dude! You should do a fire tank with the new RE that allows immolate to be insta cast on melee, then pair that with fireblast to spread the immolate and watch the numbers fly!
Dunno if I agree about Turtle WoW honestly, it never seemed to be a thing that's meant to go through refreshes like Ascension does. They spent years with a lower population, and I think they are happy just providing a slowly expanding Vanilla+ world. That's also the thing with the vanilla world, at least back when it was current most of us never worried or cared about doing the most current thing. And I think a lot of people on that server are the same way, they're happy just chilling and slowly working up towards maybe doing harder raids.
You already have charge why not roll away the heroic leap so you maybe get the void walker still? I also always try to accept as many thematic rolls as possible (like the incenerate) cause why not its cool -IamMe
Enjoyable video. Sadly my Ironwoman Mellann died at 52 during your giveaway. Stay away from the kill em with sleep deprivation quest if you dont have AOE....
Tried this as a dps on area 52 but on thrall have seen it a few times as tank. I like the holy/fire theme. All the best for the new year mate and looking forward to your content as always! Gromnar
I wish fire tank could learn Immolation Aura. As a Threat tank Stance/Presence while passively dealing damage every few seconds. Cause "By fire be purged!" -McTankels the Gnome, with the title Kreg. Fear him.
To be perfectly honest, at the current moment, Retail is 1000% superior to Ascension. I hope you consider playing more of it, maybe exploring more of the outdoor content. Profession revamp, etc etc.
I enjoy all of your content! I don't play retail myself, but if it weren't for you I wouldn't be playing Ascension or TurtleWow. I wish the best for you and your financial situation, and I'll watch any version you wish to cover. Happy new year, Man. Hang in there.
@@Mcdoubles That sucks man. I'll admit, like Josh you're the reason I decided to try Turtle and Ascension. They were a lot of fun and helped fill in a gap I had. I didn't touch retail for about 18 months, that's the longest I'd ever gone without playing and in that time I kinda bounced around between different MMOs. DF was me giving them a last chance, and I dunno, seems to have hooked me.
Also, the last boss in DM west is just a heal check. As long as you have more than 7k life and waited for your heal to jump down with you, a wipe there is not really on you imo
I tried this with 2h parry tank to emulate a ret pally tank and it was fun! feels a little crazy just spamming instant flamestrikes lol. healers did not love that i was parry though :( Edit: i saw you just got the dodge 2h right after i made this comment lol
do a healer/dps/tank hybrid (a bruiser) with maelstrom weapon and lesser healing ward on an attack speed build. i've tried for like a week but got tired of ascensions stupid rng. i'm not gonna grind 3 years for a few cards.
As a player for TWoW, I have noticed the strange dissapearance of Torta. No idea whats going on there. But with regards to TWoW itself it has really hit a bad kind of stale state and this is for a couple reasons. One like you said there are a lot of high end players that just kinda sit around doing little to nothing, or there are max capped players and the grind is ungodly long for pieces they need and we could do with some sort of reduced grind or a catch up system (not like Ascension has, but instead of going out, killing some trolls for a 10% necklace drop, returning and getting only 50 rep for a faction, maybe make it 250 or something like how Wrath had better rep mechanics and was still a grind, just less of one). The other big reason is their staff size limits them a lot, and it really hinders them that like actual retail vanilla they use the modified Warcraft3 Engine. If they upgrade to the BC or Wrath Engines it would be easier on them for implementing things like they have wanted, and they seem to have a mindset of "We wont fix bugs and balancing issues until its a devastatingly glaring issue, instead we'll focus on making a new tiny town over here in some uninhabited piece of land.", so they perhaps need a better priority system.
I tried this build but didnt get nearly as good rolls as u did. Something i did do tho which i liked was getting combustion and the re that gives u a flaming shield, felt like it went with the theme, anyways good vid. IGN: Quinntalen
I wonder how bad a Blizzard healer would be. Instead of just spamming smite you cast Flash Heal on people to give them Grace to then spam Smite and heal through attonement -IamMe
They got so little views. I want to keep playing it just for fun progression and a journey, and I may still do it, but it's tough right now. And when I do it and get like half a dozen "retail is bad" comments, that's a big F
I k ow this is likely a bad suggestion, try branching into MTGO and do the commander scene, alot of content is on live stream in paper games few is on the mtgo side and perhaps rope in some of the viewers or discord peeps.
Glad someone else refuses to play mana forged barrier because of the way it looks lol. I love the idea of an int tank, but man I hate that thing. -Kurtcaine
here's a couple things that you should check out if you're into building fire tank:
1. you don't need fearing fire! fire tank is by far the most threat i've seen on tank, and i can even pull from other tanks just by using judgement and seal of fervor.
2. Blaze ward is redundant, echoing power is a far better option and it's on demand with 100% uptime. Booming echoes makes it even better.
3. Blazing barrier is amazing. it will mitigate several thousand damage, and give you a strong aoe at the end. You need to roll combustion and invest some points that are weird for tank, but it's a great defensive cd and it's always up.
4. Dragon's breath or Blast Wave, pick one but both is way too much for an optimal rotation.
5. You can trade fire talents for survivability talents, which you seem to have done! But fire tank is all about the fire damage and threat. Save the big survivability for another build and just go ham with Templar. Aoe pulls, i'm top dps by far with about 6k dps. Stay alive tho!
-Tanksy
i love coming to an episode and remember how much i love this content. Thanks bro.
4:09 I built a flame tank a couple weeks ago using this enchant as well. My was MFB-based with Blaze Ward, the Blast Wave -no-knockback- enchant and Defensive Magic. This way, whenever I cast Flamestrike, I do additional AoE damage if someone hits me while casting, which is every time as a tank. I think I had Retribution Aura, the mage Fire Armor thing and thorns. Judgement was built up to attack at a distance and deal AoE damage on top of giving some mana regen. It was not only a beefy tank, but also did somewhere between 1.5k and 2kdps depending on the pull. Also really simple to play. Hit your judgements every time they're up, throw down flamestrike, consecration and blast wave whenever they came up. I think I also had a talent that increased the range of blast wave to 16yds... Easy to play, decent dps and really good tanking overall.
Yes! I’ve been waiting on Templar of flame for so long! Thank you!
Love the videos, keep up the good work in 2023!! -Frontin
Thanks!
Thank you dude!
I love your builds like this, something that just works! Look forward to more.
As always, thank you McDoubles for your content. I appreciate that you just enjoy playing the game, it makes your content a lot more enjoyable and you give some of us the opportunity to see the great work both you and the Ascension team put into this game.
I appreciate that! Happy new year mate
Nice vid man! Love to see some tanking done, and that you went back to old builds :)
Keep at it! - Majj (thrall)
Happy New Year McDoubles!
I started playing Ascension because your vids came up in my youtube feed. I used to play retail WoW a lot, and this def brought me back.
As someone who played a tank for a long time, this build definitely appeals to me.
IGN: Mikomi on Thrall.
My New Years Resolution is to watch more Mcdoubles LOL
🥹
Love the vid as always! Have a great New Year!! - Palengray
Great content as always! Thank you for posting when you can and happy holidays! - Fearce
Been watching you for years now and you always bring me back to Ascension, would love to see a video where you try and solo dungeons. A one man army build
The last version of the RE was able to get down to a 6 sec rotation with Blast Wave>Flame Strike>Judgement>Flamestrike>Repeat. The new build's rotation is now a 9 sec rotation to make it feel smooth being Blast Wave>Flame Strike>Dragon's Breath>Flame Strike>Judgement>Flamestrike>Repeat.
EDIT: Heavy use of cd reduction talents and green res were used btw to get down to those rotation times.
Can do the first Rota with just 3 cooldown reductions and a controlled blast enchant.
- Judgement turns from 7s to 5.5s.
- Blast wave turns from 20s to 10s (Controlled Blast -10s CD) to 6s due to 2 Flame Strikes (‐2s each).
The big question is: is trying to CD reduce DB worth it?
@@somederp8915 currently, no. fs>judge>fs>bw>fs is currently best rotation
Krieg looking down from A52 with happiness -Ames
Happy new years McDubz!
Happy new years!
I've been trying to make this build for a while now, with no blast wave, dragons breath or combustion cards.. normal or lucky 😂 I'm going to live my experience through you, thank you! Such a fun tank build with insane aoe delight!
This was the first tank build that i actually wanted to make on s8, and tbh I was able to make it work SUPER well without blastwave or db. Eventually I was able to HoF DB and combustion, but you really don't need them to build Templar. Stick with it, so fun!
@vividimaginer funnily enough I must have called Ascension's bluff.. I got a blast wave card today 😂 but thank you I really enjoyed it on S7! Looking forward to it now I can roll it again
27:45
Actually, as a healer, it's perfectly fine for the tank to pull with low health. While I encourage to always have an eye for his/her position before pulling, sometimes we let our hots tick or wait for more dmg taken so we don't overheal. Granted, there are some builds that don't care for overheals, like overflow, but generally it's a portion of the mana cost wasted.
I found my enjoyment for wow once again after I started watching your videos, Big McD!
Wish you the best, love your content, had a blast with all the servers you showcase.
- Tipsout, Thrall
Edit: XD
Keep on the great work mate
Waels on thrall
Thanks for all the videos love your dragon flight videos appreciate everything you last season I had two handed fire tank he was super fun and great aoe fun tank….. kreg?? Reborn once again….. thank you again. Damo
Using the Templar of flame enchant
Great video men, gonna try it! -Badkarmaah
after watching this, I really do want to make a tank spec now lol. Notshort on Thrall, have a happy 2023 :))
you can use a /cast [target=cursor] Flamestrike macro to not waste that extra half second on clicking the area u want flamestrike to be!
Oh man the first 14 minutes was rough, I used to main this spec and i kept thinking "just use judgement!" the cycle of judgement and flamestrike is all you need haha. Also id like to add that templar of flame is a really good spec for 2h parry tanking. that sword you got was perfect.
If you're going Flamestrike and DB, you want Playing with Fire. Direct damage fire spells (Flamestrike) reduces the cooldown of Dragon's Breath by 1 second, per target hit, crits double. So you could quite easily just go DB > Flamestrike > DB > Flamestrike > Repeat. Didn't get enough to reset it? Blast Wave. - Pelo, Thrall
oh hey i use to do that trick in rfc. blast wave push back is amazing for kiting and even mob gathering.
Also... I make a Dark Surgeon tank. It actually does pretty well. You can find it on the Hero Builder thing. I think you'd enjoy it. See if you can make one better than mine. :D
I like this
Finally playing the best build in the game
It's definitely really fun :)
More Mcdoubles videos just equals more happiness, loving the content. Have tried this build as DPS before as well xD; wishing to see/hear some of the older music again. Thrall: Twiet | Moreina
Fire tank archetype got a Great LRE. Love how it plays. And while it is not the strongest, being able to make combustion a defensive CD via an ERE is so thematic
I just remember last season you'd join a raid/BG and basically 99% of people had different builds. You'd whisper them and talk about theory crafting.... then this season all the content is tuned around meta specs. So creates what we all hated about retail imo - good shit - Eyedia
9:44 Triyan, that was me lol so sorry man didn't know it was you
Wait nvm, I have a character named Triyan in Area52, not Thrall haha
happy new year McDoubles and i am build an working atonement healer on area52 and an good range weapon damage auto shot hunter with an possible range attack speed when all is active from 115%
How do you have your charactervs health and mana bars down there?
What addon is that shows you the re next to your gear slots?
Hey dude! You should do a fire tank with the new RE that allows immolate to be insta cast on melee, then pair that with fireblast to spread the immolate and watch the numbers fly!
sick build to end the year with :D
Nice video!
Rykh
Hyped to play this build -Exdanza Area-52
ayo g what dps meter addont r u using?
What is the UI you use for health bars and such?! Its so nice!
Xperl and quartz when I'm not using elvui
@@Mcdoubles Thank you, love your content :)
Dunno if I agree about Turtle WoW honestly, it never seemed to be a thing that's meant to go through refreshes like Ascension does. They spent years with a lower population, and I think they are happy just providing a slowly expanding Vanilla+ world.
That's also the thing with the vanilla world, at least back when it was current most of us never worried or cared about doing the most current thing. And I think a lot of people on that server are the same way, they're happy just chilling and slowly working up towards maybe doing harder raids.
Refreshing it once and sitting on it for 2 years just seems smart from every angle to me tbh
Happy new year Ascension community 🎉
always been curious. how do you walk? your W is keybound to a skill
With my mouse
Interesting thoughts on Turtle Wow. I hope they do make a new realm tbh. - ExotiC
i was the first one to play this when i came out, as parry tank. was my favorite. i tanked asc naxx and all the content.
would recommend a mouse over macro for the ft
Smoking hot fire tank! -Darbie
This was a great dps spec. I loved being a fire pally doing massive AOE damage.
Have a nice New years all
Yo Doubles, whats the uf addon?
You already have charge why not roll away the heroic leap so you maybe get the void walker still? I also always try to accept as many thematic rolls as possible (like the incenerate) cause why not its cool -IamMe
Because I hate pets on ascension honestly.
Enjoyable video. Sadly my Ironwoman Mellann died at 52 during your giveaway. Stay away from the kill em with sleep deprivation quest if you dont have AOE....
Tried this as a dps on area 52 but on thrall have seen it a few times as tank. I like the holy/fire theme. All the best for the new year mate and looking forward to your content as always!
Gromnar
From my call board cache yesterday I got the 70 ilvl Judgement helmet 🤩
Keep up the theorycrafting - IGN Bhaal
Mctank makes a return for round 2.
I actually tried this before but with a enchant that used fire ward to to reset the cd of the fireblast
Happy new Year
Hny. Looking forward to more videos in 2023. - shredder
love this build
I wish fire tank could learn Immolation Aura.
As a Threat tank Stance/Presence while passively dealing damage every few seconds.
Cause "By fire be purged!"
-McTankels the Gnome, with the title Kreg. Fear him.
Is dragon warrior very strong right now?
To be perfectly honest, at the current moment, Retail is 1000% superior to Ascension. I hope you consider playing more of it, maybe exploring more of the outdoor content. Profession revamp, etc etc.
Views were lower on it and I'm not in a good place financially. But maybe you're right
@Mcdoubles definitely look into streaming while you play retail too if possible, then posting it with the edits.
I enjoy all of your content! I don't play retail myself, but if it weren't for you I wouldn't be playing Ascension or TurtleWow. I wish the best for you and your financial situation, and I'll watch any version you wish to cover. Happy new year, Man. Hang in there.
@@Mcdoubles That sucks man. I'll admit, like Josh you're the reason I decided to try Turtle and Ascension. They were a lot of fun and helped fill in a gap I had. I didn't touch retail for about 18 months, that's the longest I'd ever gone without playing and in that time I kinda bounced around between different MMOs. DF was me giving them a last chance, and I dunno, seems to have hooked me.
I have never played retail wow. Still, i feel like ascension is uncomparable to the retail. It would be like comparing 2 different fruits...
There is a brand new private server for Warhammer Online. I've been having fun there.
I've been working in a mana forged tank while being a boomkin
Also, the last boss in DM west is just a heal check. As long as you have more than 7k life and waited for your heal to jump down with you, a wipe there is not really on you imo
FYI, Aegis RE doesnt stack, tested it a couple of times.
Mystic Scroll: Flameburst... ragefire chasm.. Jerosh
Is this de draft mode or the other realm? sorry im new in ascension :c
This is the draft mode
@@Mcdoubles Do u have a guild? im new even in the normal wow, i would like some friends:(
I tried this with 2h parry tank to emulate a ret pally tank and it was fun! feels a little crazy just spamming instant flamestrikes lol. healers did not love that i was parry though :(
Edit: i saw you just got the dodge 2h right after i made this comment lol
I remember doing that on Area 52. You're squishier, but you can put out even more damage with Divine Storm and Flametongue damage.
nice build, nice mog to match it ..brains and the looks merged together :P happy new year! IGN : Baiame
Here's to a good year for both WoW Content whether it's official servers or private servers and a good year for youtube. :) - Darkstorm; Thrall
I'm fire tanking on Area 52 as a Fire tank
This spec is fire. -Doukii
lol guildie i just found out that you can change specs in mythics
nice build
do a healer/dps/tank hybrid (a bruiser) with maelstrom weapon and lesser healing ward on an attack speed build. i've tried for like a week but got tired of ascensions stupid rng. i'm not gonna grind 3 years for a few cards.
Nice vid! Love tanks and you just gave me an excuse to prestige! IGN quacks
As a player for TWoW, I have noticed the strange dissapearance of Torta. No idea whats going on there. But with regards to TWoW itself it has really hit a bad kind of stale state and this is for a couple reasons. One like you said there are a lot of high end players that just kinda sit around doing little to nothing, or there are max capped players and the grind is ungodly long for pieces they need and we could do with some sort of reduced grind or a catch up system (not like Ascension has, but instead of going out, killing some trolls for a 10% necklace drop, returning and getting only 50 rep for a faction, maybe make it 250 or something like how Wrath had better rep mechanics and was still a grind, just less of one). The other big reason is their staff size limits them a lot, and it really hinders them that like actual retail vanilla they use the modified Warcraft3 Engine. If they upgrade to the BC or Wrath Engines it would be easier on them for implementing things like they have wanted, and they seem to have a mindset of "We wont fix bugs and balancing issues until its a devastatingly glaring issue, instead we'll focus on making a new tiny town over here in some uninhabited piece of land.", so they perhaps need a better priority system.
Agreed
New Years Resolution? Find a fun and easy DPS spec that doesn't include lots of DoTs and stacks to follow. -Pigeon
love the tank and heal vids. hoping for some new spicy heal legendary re soon - ign foawr
Really enjoyed watching this. I have been considering a healer or tank to start since queuing as dps has been horrible lately. IGN Alences
Can you do and update or a new build for a mountin tank :D
Hi, could u tell ur addons?
I think there's a fire epic woldforged that drops in SM... I never won it so I can't remember the name, I'm sorry :(
Thrall - mellyoung
I tried this build but didnt get nearly as good rolls as u did. Something i did do tho which i liked was getting combustion and the re that gives u a flaming shield, felt like it went with the theme, anyways good vid. IGN: Quinntalen
How did you know that was my reaction to Kreg's death!?
I wonder how bad a Blizzard healer would be. Instead of just spamming smite you cast Flash Heal on people to give them Grace to then spam Smite and heal through attonement -IamMe
Keep up the good work
Ign Chakia
Happy holidays and new year! Ign: Icebite
33:30 a newbie build? Dragons breath, blastwave, avengers shield. Yeah nah
At first I thought it was kreg
i liked your retail vids..
They got so little views. I want to keep playing it just for fun progression and a journey, and I may still do it, but it's tough right now. And when I do it and get like half a dozen "retail is bad" comments, that's a big F
@@Mcdoubles understandable
I k ow this is likely a bad suggestion, try branching into MTGO and do the commander scene, alot of content is on live stream in paper games few is on the mtgo side and perhaps rope in some of the viewers or discord peeps.
Glad someone else refuses to play mana forged barrier because of the way it looks lol. I love the idea of an int tank, but man I hate that thing. -Kurtcaine
gg
Hmmm- Divinechild Thrall
spiritual attunement talent and RE = 0, nada, ziltch mana problems.
XD? - Femto