Richard Strauss | Sinfonia domestica: THE POWER OF THE VIENNA HORN

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  • Richard Strauss (1864-1949)
    Sinfonia Domestica, Op.53 (1902-1903)
    Wiener Philharmoniker (Vienna Philharmonic)
    Franz Welser-Möst
    Finale (sehr lebhaft)
    2 bars after 141 - end
    Horn section
    assistant: Ronald Janezic
    1st: Josef Reif
    2nd: Wolfgang Lintner
    3rd: Wolfgang Vladar
    4th: Wolfgang Tomböck
    5th: Michael Stückler
    6th: Sebastian Mayr
    7th: Thomas Jöbstl
    8th: Lars Stransky

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  • @musicfriendly12
    @musicfriendly12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    They actually do the domestic symphony with vienna horns? With this level of quality? That's crazy

    • @whatadamnusername
      @whatadamnusername ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They play everything with the Vienna horn, I imagine

    • @Alessio216
      @Alessio216 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@whatadamnusername Not everything actually

  • @adude394
    @adude394 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    What these players do on a Vienna horn should not even be possible. And they do it day in and day out. Just astounding.

  • @MrMichaelvier
    @MrMichaelvier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    absolutely brilliant..this orchestra is out of the world.....thx for posting the end of Domestica....Strauss was a true genius:-)) and those horn players are true geniuses .....

  • @crysed7897
    @crysed7897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    All the players in all sections posses great control over what they do in their instrument...
    Truly masterful performance 👍🙏

  • @rwb76
    @rwb76 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The camera cuts away before the high E! What a shame.

  • @andrewwilliams2353
    @andrewwilliams2353 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Richard Strauss was indubitably a gifted composer but his deliquency made him a right bastard to Horn players. Easy enough for him to write the stuff - he didn't have to try to play it though !

    • @pprudencio1966
      @pprudencio1966 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      His father was a very accomplished horn player, so he knew what the best of the best of them were capable of!

    • @andrewwilliams2353
      @andrewwilliams2353 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I read somewhere that when his father saw his 1st Horn concerto he declared it unplayable !@@pprudencio1966

    • @srr10
      @srr10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There has never been a composer, ever, who understood the horn as well as Richard Strauss. He knew the instrument with his DNA. He never wrote an unplayable note for the horn. You have to be a very, very good player- but it is fantastic to perform.

  • @andrewwilliams2353
    @andrewwilliams2353 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had the joy of hearing this played by the VPO in the Festival Hall in London back in the 1990s. Conducted by Zubin Mehta. The high Horn players used a high pitched Horn as well as the usual F one. The only performance of Sinfonia Domestica I'd heard previously was Karajan's with the Berlin Phil on record. Zube and the VPO blew Karajan off the map in every way imaginable. I'd never been ultra keen on Herbie's music making, especially in his later years and as a man he was utterly contemptible. So it gives me great satisfaction to report how wonderful Mehta and the Viennese were (and sill are )

    • @jamesoliver6625
      @jamesoliver6625 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mehta's recording of the Sinfonia Domestica with the LA Phil in 1968 (Sony) is IMO the finest recording/performance of it ever done. A young exuberant Mehta (in the throes of his courtship of Nancy) trying to out schmaltz the VPO, with the finest performers the movie industry could attract available, and the finest recording engineers the movie industry could attract available, it is simply stunning, precise, nuanced, properly tempoed and fulfilling. (pardon my enthusiasm).

  • @utvpoop
    @utvpoop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Viennese horns are closer to natural horns (basically they are with a changable F crook and pump valve system added)

  • @georgeluft7881
    @georgeluft7881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I didn't know a that a horn could go that high!! Whooooooaaaaaaahhhh!!!!!!

  • @lkmm3211
    @lkmm3211 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wonderful! Where can I see all the footage?

  • @DAVID-et1lj
    @DAVID-et1lj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    the best Orchestra of the World

    • @canonclassical
      @canonclassical 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Best 👏

    • @DAVID-et1lj
      @DAVID-et1lj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@canonclassical specially the horn section headed by Mr. Janezic

    • @ignitedThony
      @ignitedThony 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      *Berliner Philamoniker enters the chat*

    • @amostviertla9820
      @amostviertla9820 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ignitedThonythey are equal

  • @TimothyReeves
    @TimothyReeves ปีที่แล้ว +2

    33.33% Wolfgang horn section FTW!

  • @taketoraoda7815
    @taketoraoda7815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    0:24 Bravo Timpani !!

  • @HassoBenSoba
    @HassoBenSoba ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In my first few weeks (as a composition student) at the Cleveland Institute of Music (Fall, '69), I spotted MYRON BLOOM standing at the main desk looking through his phone messages. I approached him and said "Mr Bloom?"; he looked up with those big, bushy eyebrows over his horn-rimmed glasses. "Yes?" and I said "I just wanted to tell you I've always loved your High 'E' in the Sinfonia Domestica (the Szell recording from 5 years earlier). He looked as if half of him wanted to say "Beat it, punk", while the other half seemed appreciative. He just said, softly "Thank you", and went back to reading his messages. Later that year (April'70) I was asked by his students to write a version of "Happy Birthday" for 4 horns, which I conducted in Bloom's studio. He seemed mildly amused. LR
    PS-- they should have called for a re-take of the end of this VPO "Domestica" film; it was pretty messy.

    • @somebody9033
      @somebody9033 ปีที่แล้ว

      what was messy about this performance? sounds note perfect to me.

    • @hornchannel
      @hornchannel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why a re-take? This was a live pandemic-time Sunday morning concert as I recall.

    • @starwarsjunkie7776
      @starwarsjunkie7776 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, the ending wasn’t pristine for sure. You’ll never hear a perfect recording of this piece. Ever. It’s just too damn hard!

  • @loicrenier7619
    @loicrenier7619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cors et cordes, délicieux alliage!

  • @alexanderbraunstatter7497
    @alexanderbraunstatter7497 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bravo Franzl!

  • @Abelet33
    @Abelet33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    0:28 i see the Saxophone family !!!! Strauss love you !❤️

  • @winhuber
    @winhuber หลายเดือนก่อน

    Superblech der Wiener Philharmoniker vom Feinsten - mit die besten weltweit ..

  • @rinosquarzoni9438
    @rinosquarzoni9438 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grande orchestra, e bravo direttore.....

  • @richardwilliams473
    @richardwilliams473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it true that Richard Strauss played the Vienna Horn himself?

    • @soffronitsky
      @soffronitsky  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      No. His father was a famous horn player and pedagogue in Munich, but I think he played a German horn...

    • @madaxe
      @madaxe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@soffronitsky yes, a German single Bb

  • @Nikuman-Sukinanoyo
    @Nikuman-Sukinanoyo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ゴージャス‼️

  • @FeckHallBahn
    @FeckHallBahn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely awesome.

  • @stefanreggel
    @stefanreggel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🎶🍀🎶

  • @TheFNGee
    @TheFNGee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Strauss didn't like his Daddy too much. Why else would he try to Kill the horn players? :)

  • @AndreyRubtsovRU
    @AndreyRubtsovRU 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tunes on timpani is an abomination. Hate it.

    • @kurtjohnson1042
      @kurtjohnson1042 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Give me a break dude! I think Strauss knew what he was doing when he wrote the piece. Timpani are one of the most powerful instruments in the orchestra.

  • @douglasyiuchinglok307
    @douglasyiuchinglok307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And?

    • @douglasyiuchinglok307
      @douglasyiuchinglok307 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How power are they?

    • @josephgoldstein7784
      @josephgoldstein7784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@douglasyiuchinglok307 The 'power' is the sound. It (power) is used as an adjective to describe to brassy tone, and dense harmonics present particularly in the upper range of the Viennese horn. The phrases where the camera focuses on the horns shortly after 0:31 are quite famous for their staggering difficulty- the notes move so quick that, it almost sounds like a 'rip' or glissando on the concert C- F intervals. The passage then ascends to a concert A, which is among the highest notes penned for horn (tied with the Schumann Konzertstuck, and exceeded by some of Haydn's Maria Theresa Symphonies, written for the Waldstein(?) court centuries ago.)
      This is followed by a series of three 3rd and Octave ascending motifs, which demand the utmost brassiness and energy upon arriving at the Concert F, projecting beyond the full texture of the orchestra. Note, this comes at the end of a 38-46 minute work, a true task of endurance. It is a difficult task on a descant or triple horn, a double is pushed to it's reasonable limits, and a single F horn is faced with the problem that caused most German orchestras to turn to the Wendler and Alex 103 double horns at the turn of the century. But Vienna remains Vienna- Mitropoulos left a record of this in '57, and the characteristic sound remains.
      Thus the Vienna horn is very powerful- both in actuality, realized by the fantastic section of the Philharmonic, and as a historical force, standing the test of time, breathing life and excitement into music.

    • @parandungidts2616
      @parandungidts2616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josephgoldstein7784 mitroupoulos 1957???

    • @Sebastian-en4wh
      @Sebastian-en4wh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      More powerful than any doublehorn and doublehornplayer….

    • @JeanPaul-Hol65
      @JeanPaul-Hol65 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@parandungidts2616 Yes, it’s a 1957 live recording in Salzburg (CD by Orfeo).