Model Railroading and 3D Printing: What to know to print for your railroad
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- So you guys have seen me use 3D Printers A LOT in Model Railroading. So I thought I would give you some information based on what I have learned through the several years that I have been 3D Printing so that you guys could have some knowledge when you go to buy a 3D Printer. I know that a lot of you want to try it, but are intimidated. So here are some basics.
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Yes, 3d printers add a lot of new possibilities to the model railroad layouts we just didn't have enough of....thanks for sharing....Jack 👍
Jimmy, you did an awesome job explaining the difference between filament and resin 3d printers and the maintenance required. I have a couple of 3d printers at my workplace (Makerbot). They do have built in slicers where you can connect a USB drive and directly print but that also makes them more pricy. I am really interested in getting a Resin printer but my layout is no where near ready to do details. Thanks for sharing this with us as many should find this informative! - Jason
As someone who already knows a ton about 3D printing, the video title is misleading. I didn't come to learn about printers, I came to learn about printing model trains and railway.
Just the explanations i needed! Thanks buddy
I am a new viewer and also subscribed to your channel. I have read about printers for a few years now but never pulled the trigger. I am once again looking at them for building 1:87 pieces for my layout. You did a great job here in this video. Very easy to understand, helpful information especially about the ultrasonic cleaner and curing process. I have spent thousands of dollars for my hobby but I get rather bored with the same ole same ole building kits. I am building a large very detailed urban downtown on my layout. I need tall buildings like 12 - 15 stories and that is no easy task to find kits to meet that need. I want to be able to print those stories one by one if I have to. It’s a true niche market that more choices are needed. After watching this video I think the best way to go is to have both type printers to complete different tasks. Good job on this video. 👍
Like he said, I would start with an fdm printers. Its less of an investment up front and with how cheap and popular the ender 3 is you would have many places to look for support.
Not to mention the different types of filament an ender 3 can print, even printing flexible materials. You won't have high details like a resen printer but its a great first step that can also be useful for other home repairs or needs.
Also look into if you can find models to print before buying a printer, set up a wish list of sorts of downloading the modules you would want to print and saving them in a printer. Sometimes finding the exact thing you need is hard or even impossible. If you can't find the models you need and you have no experience in 3d modeling I would recommend practicing 3d modeling before buying a printer.
I have an ender 3 and love it, plan on getting a resen in the near future, but haven't pulled the trigger on one just yet. Its a great tool to have that can be used in far more places than just model trains.
Great video, thank you! I'm new to railway modeling and keen to start with 3D printing, so knowing the difference probably saved me a lot of money. In my layout the tracks down, my MetCalfe cardboard major buildings are made, so now it's time to add some track details like buffer stops and fencing where detail isn't quite as important. Based on your video, I think I'll start with an FDM printer, and maybe in the distant future when I need more detail, a resin printer. Cheers!
Well done, nicely explained.
It is opening up all kinds of possibilities for me. We can't import the building and accessories in Uruguay because of import taxes. Now I can print all I want. Just have to find the printer in Uruguay that doesn't cost an arm & a leg.🤣
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Great information! Currently thinking of buying a resin printer.
Any thing you make yourself is fun and great learning. If you can save money even better
Great video Jimmy. One thing you should mention is the fumes from resin printers are dangerous. You can't smell them but they're there. Always have good ventilation.
Nice explanation and good information. I think to continue with this like a skiers would be great. I have been thinking on this for awhile and I think some other information would be cad design programs (free and pay) where to find models for printing already made (free and paid) how to scale models, how to slice then how to import. You do this so well that I think you would be a good teacher on this. Thanks so much.
You are a natural teacher. I enjoyed your explanations, your voice quality, an cadence. You make complex ideas sound normal so you help me get over my apprehension about doing new things. How much noise do these devices make? That is the one thing that you did not talk about. Can you change colors of resin for different parts of a model? So from what I can see lI would need at least three components, the printer, the washing unit, and the drying unit. What do you soak your models in for cleaning? I have so many questions so I’ll stop here. Thank you for your information. Please stay safe and continue practicing social distancing.
For the filament printer it's probably a good idea to make small modular pieces one at a time so you're not spending all day babysitting it since you can't leave it unattended.
i'd argue the same for the resin, as then you can take advantage of the most detailed orientation for each detail.
Hi ya Jimmy. Thank you for explaining the differences between the printers. Will we be seeing vehicles coming from your printers soon?
one thing those resin printers can do, since they are very good at detail, is they can print rolling stock. They are able to get good enough resolution so you can make a Covered Hopper or Oil car, maybe a Boxcar (depending on era, modern day boxcars would be easy, but older ones needing the walkway might be out).
Thank you for the introduction to the basic 3D printing techniques suitable for the scale model hobbyist and their pros and cons.
But I think actually buying any type of 3D printer and the necessary auxialiaries, tools, spare parts and materials would be the very last I'd do because the biggest hurdle to this hobby in my opinion is to gain sufficient experience and proficiency in coping with the CAD and CAM software to be able to design really printable and scale like objects.
And this I believe can be a longer lasting process because especially those 3D parametric CAD programs as well as CAM tools like slicers and correctors seem to have a steep learning curve.
Actually, I am a scratch shipmodel builder and would like to rather construct and print ships' superstructures and fittings like mooring winches, bollards, goose necks, vents, windlasses and stuff you would typically find on decks of ships.
Of course, the biggest dream would be to some day maybe print the model hull, which mainly because of its size and required strength and waterproofness I still build as plank on frame model from wood keel up that would later be covered with GRP mats and resin.
Doing hull 3D printing would necessarily shift the building technique more to real size shipbuilding where the hull is built in sections because you wouldn't find a hobbyist 3D printer to accommodate the size of a whole hull (when assembled often up to 2m in length).
I already construct the digital hull model with a specialized ship hull lofting software which over the years I have gained sufficient mastery to extract from those digital hull model genuine and really fairing build frames which so far still would be cut from plywood with a fretsaw, not even by CNC milling machine although this should be possible without too many contortions.
Because the hull model is actually digitally present and can be exported as STL in toto or as single frames in DXF, I really would fancy to convert this to something 3D printable in hull sections that could be glued together.
Yep, this would be my final dream, but a very cumbersome path to arrive at some day, if ever.
Thermal runaway hasn't been an issue for awhile, even on low-end Ender 3 printers. It was fixed by the firmware updates. Sure if you are buying dirt cheap ANET kits, it maybe a problem, but most firmware now will turn off the heating in the event you lose a sensor. As for the support comment you made around 5:50, that is not entirely accurate. You can definitely get easy to remove supports, you have to tweak the Z-distance on the support inside your slicer, this is easy to do in Cura, so that the support stops close enough to the model to support it but far enough away that its easy to remove. As for printing details, you need to slow the printer down to about 10mm/sec to get really fine detailing, but I've been able to get the spacing in between planks of wood with Wood PLA, and the lining on ISO containers. Have a look at trackside3d.co.uk under the support page for details. Ultimately, for model railroading, you're going to want both machines. Resin is extremely brittle, its great for details, not so great for structural support. Filament has a lot of cool hybrid materials, wood, metal etc, and has the flexibility that you can adjust the nozzle down from 0.4mm to smaller, but it won't get close to the high res you can get with resin. What I'm doing now is using both for scratch builds, using the filament printer to build the structural base, then where details can't be done on the filament printer, use the resin printer. I'm currently 3D printing locos, so the structure is filament but its "plated" with resin parts with the fine details. With Ender 3s under $200, and Anycubic Photon under $200, and the Anycubic Wash and Cure station being under $130 right now, getting all three is definitely more affordable, and lot faster than scratch building with card or plasticard! :)
Just a friendly heads up, FDM is a copyrighted term. I forget which brand owns it, but the industry accepted term is FFF Fused Filament Fabrication. Other than that bud, jolly good show!
Request: make a video about how to install a decoder into a railcar so it's possible to install lighting or and other features and use it independent of the locomotive.
EXCELLENT VIDEO WHERE CAN I CHECK THE MODELS YOU SELL IN N SCALE
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Thanks for sharing. I just about have the money to buy a Resin Printer. I am an N scaler too. Thanks for the pointers. The real scary part for me is the Cad software. Learning it so I can make what I need.
Check out the Facebook group 3D Printing and Model Railroading. It has lots of tutorials shared and loads of helpful people.
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My 3D printer is on its way. I hope it get in soon.
Hi Jimmy, first thank you for this video. I do have a question about the resin printer. I know you do your 3d printing in your garage, would you feel comfortable resin printing inside your home? I know with my printer it has a slight odor (pla, petg) but I am ok with that. I heard that resin was worst odor wise but I would have to run it right next to me in my den. How do you dispose of the extra chemicals like the cleaning solutions?
Great video! A lot of good info here. I'm going to put a 3D printer on the Christmas list this year I think. What is the strength of the resin pieces like? I recently had to pay $120 for a part for the clothes dryer because a plastic part broke and I wasn't able to buy just the piece that broke but had to buy the whole unit it was attached to. Just being able to print one or two repair parts like that would more than pay for the printer.
It has definitely changed the way I do model structures. Once the resin cures in either sunlight or a UV light, it is rock hard. Small details are fragile like anything and there is a learning curve, but I have printed hundreds of buildings for my Etsy store and my layout and they all turn out great. Superglue is the best glue for this btw.
@@DIYDigitalRailroad The best glue to use with the resin parts was going to be my followup question, thanks!
I have been following and enjoying these 3D printing videos. The buildings look great! For anyone interested...there is a Facebook group called "3D Printing and Model Railroading". It's about sharing and learning about 3D printing for new people and experienced alike. A great place to ask questions and find free files to print.
Would that type of Filament printer work for HO scale projects ?
Can you make n scale box cars with the resin printer
What settings should I start out with? This C over F sucks. I bought a 3D printer and the settings have me lost because of the C setting.
The Mega Zero cost about $140 but how much is the resin printer and what's the largest thing you can print on each? Thanks for the great info.
Does anyone do custom buildings, or specific landmarks like the washington monument, etc?
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I was thinking about doing 3D printing because I have several different size train layouts. The only thing that I am having a hard time on is how big can something be on a 3D printer. My biggest size model is standard gauge. I would like to 3D print things for it because it’s so hard find anything for that size.
I'm so excited to get my printer I'm gonna get the creality ender 5 plus
Can you do a compare contrast on these 2 types kf n scale vehicles?
I can definitely take a look at doing that.
Any thoughts on 3D printing cars? I’m wondering if the main way to get shorter passenger cars for my small layout will be to print them.
Check out the Facebook group 3D Printing and Model Railroading. It has lots of tutorials shared and loads of helpful people. There are many 3D printed cars others are doing.
HI Jimmy Im looking for a blk.fri deal on a printer for my grandson /me drew a blank on what you said was a good 1 any help would be so greatful
Can an fdm handle n scale ?
Which printer would you suggest for greater detail? I model in ho scale and I’m wanting to print shipping containers to start out with. Thanks in advance for any advice or help!
Did you ever pick up a printer?
You might consider a Phrozen Mini 4k. It's a bit expensive (between four and five hundred dollars) but the detail is outstanding. 4k is the number of pixels on the screen It's got a monochrome lcd screen (desirable over a color screen - can't get into it here) but the big difference is that the build plate is the same size as most 2k printers, which means that the pixels are half the size. 2x the resolution. You'll find other 4k printers out there but with a bit of digging you'll find that they have bigger build plates. It's got some issues too, but I'd check it out.
Ive seen entire engines printed on 3D printers, im printing an entire D51 locomotive frame right now for my HO scale Makado chassis since the D51 doesnt exsist in HO scale and its my favroite engine. Also the N scale models expensive and i cant afford it… yet. and im planning to do a lego railway so parts can be printed for my railway. Also i can make track for wooden railway. (Yes i considor thiise model railways cause i make engines styled off of real ones). I also make my own custom engines
I'm thinking about getting into 3D printing for my model railroad layout. I have G+O+ho scales. My question is where do you'll get the STL files for model railroad items. Thanks for any help.
A great place is the website thingiverse. I design my own in tinkercad
Can you make Hyundai Rotem Cab Car in HO?
I just got a Kokoni, was all ready to get into 3D printing, but there was a slight snag; the printer does not support 5G!😢. Mailing it back to Amazon and going to getting an Elagoo Mars resin printer! Darn the torpedoes! I gonna get past that learning curve!
I have been mulling over the idea of 3D printing for a while now. A friend uses both versions to make fishing lures. He has a couple filament and a resin. His older filament printer actually had a thermal runaway and started smoking, now he has an alarm system that if the alarm trips it shuts the power off to the printer. We agree detail on filament is not optimal. The problem he has had with the resin is smell. It is not good and his neighbor complained when he decided to vent it outside his shop. So we know can't get on skin, and one brand attached his gloves, and the fumes are probably not good either. Do you have any suggestions on low smell resin? Where we live most of this stuff needs to be bought on the web. These are great videos, and enjoy watching. Thanks.
I do not see a big need with so much dirt cheap parts at train shows .. I have around 100k parts now and shells are cheap.. I do see a need for motor parts for steam locomotives.. for sure.. I guess I’m spoiled bring in the hobby 40 years now I just accumulated so much even having people donate their collections to me that the need for anything is gotten tiny .. but for the new guy that can’t afford these days to buy these horribly expensive rolling stock I see a place for this.. the only drawback is there are many that can’t paint well or build.. that is the hardest part for many nowadays with absolutely no attention span anymore.
Thanks enjoyed video.
3D printing is good for details....and good for prototyping...3D printing will not be mainstream for quite sometime and be cost effective....injection molding will be around for along time.
This is true for very large scale manufacturing, but additive manufacturing is making big gains. Additive manufacturing is taking over the midsize and small batch manufacturing areas where the high overhead of injection molding is cost prohibitive. Check out the Formlabs Form Cell for what a resin 3D Printer factory setup could look like in the future.
It may not be mainstream yet but it is cost effective and getting more so all the time.
Right now the biggest draw back to 3d printing is time and waste.
Some comical resen printers are dealing with the time so the next step would be figuring out the waist of the resen printers.
Or you can recycle filament meaning all you have to salve is the time for fdm.
Additive manufacturing has a promising future, and that future should be explored due to its possible capabilities and not let go due to its current shortcomings.
Some details can never be made using injection molding like parts with undercuts and fine details. I print all kinds of parts like metal garbage cans with interior corrugations and handles even with slide molds some things will not be possible to produce with traditional methods.
Some manufacturing methods are already being phased out due to 3d printing like metal rotocasting and casting parts in resin molds. Even with a small Elagoo Mars build plate i can fit 30 garbage cans or 20 ice machines or 50 newspaper machines so yes 3d printing will definitely disrupt the some industries in the future .
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Structure kits are awesome,. but most of us cannot afford the stupid prices. 3D printing is gonna hit those companies hard. It would be nice if they realized they needed to cut costs of kits,
All talk but you did not demonstrate on how you print up an item.