Superb. Just as it should be semi final kicking off on a neutral ground on Saturday afternoon at 3pm.. Absolutely brilliant.. Terry macs chip was sublime, a goal by a master of his art... And to top it all off THAT Pitch, brilliant 70s action at its finest
Always thought at this time a British national football team would have been beneficial on the global scene, especially when you looked at how the likes of Liverpool (and then followers: Forest, Villa, Ipswich, Aberdeen & Everton) dominated....
When this match was being played I was sixteen . I was working part time in a lousy little shoe shop and I hated it . The match was on the radio in the background but it wasn't the same as being at home listening to it . The following week I walked out of the job after two hours because I'd heard on the grapevine that I was going to be sacked . So I walked out . Great memories of a great semi final and escaping from a rubbish job .
I was 13, my brother 17 and a Red, we were listening on radio and when Hamilton's goal went in I started jumping all over him, screaming, winding him up while he kept listening...he screams it was disallowed and he starts on me...ended up in a fist fight, well me trying to punch him while he sat on my 13 year old chest laughing...it all ended in tears that day!
Brilliant game,thats what football was like in the 70s pitches were like fields most days,players were always slipping and sliding because of the conditions, made great entertaining for viewing public.
@@garyowens1517 like most of us, I used to absolutely love semi-finals day when Villa park, Hillsborough, Old Trafford etc were the venues... Ever since they've been switched to Wembley the magic has been detracted and the final itself feels like just another game. Remember when FA Cup Final Saturday was completely dedicated to the occasion on both BBC and ITV, with cup final grandstand, It's a Knockout and the team coach journeys to the stadium? Remember when replays were played during the following midweek week rather than about 10 days later when the edge had gone out of the tie?... The FA is utterly clueless and should hand over such decision making to us fans, We understand the game and the big occasions far better than those corporate suits ever will.
@@peterburry2531 yep. I'm 63 and cup final day was a big occasion. Sat in front of the tv all day switching back and forth from bbc to itv then my dad insisting we it on bbc. Now it's got a stupid kick off time. Not the same anymore. Football isn't the same either. Full of over analysis and stupid stats.
@@garyowens1517 All games used to kick off at exactly the same time on exactly the same day. as well. Now that IS where TV has ruined Saturday afternoons. It's ironic that the most exciting day of the season is the final day when this still happens, and a goal in one game can have huge repercussions for a completely separate game being played perhaps 200 miles away.... This used to be a regular Saturday afternoon experience and it was so much better. (Im' 62 and always preferred the BBC coverage of the final as well)
Years later Thomas confessed in an interview. "I was behind Hamilton when the ball came to him and he moved his arm towards it so when it entered the net I made a gut reaction that he must have handled it. As soon as I blew the whistle I knew from the lack of a reaction from the Liverpool players that I'd made a mistake. It suddenly dawned on me that I hadn't seen the ball hit him on the arm and so shouldn't have blown but it was too late. I was standing in the six yard box dismissing the Everton player's protests knowing that all hell would break loose if I was to suddenly change my mind. It was only when I left the field that a journalist reminded me I had wrongly disallowed an Ipswich semi final winner two years earlier. The scorer, he reminded me, was Brian Hamilton." Emlyn Hughes would state years later. "Everton were robbed. No doubt about it. They were the better team on the day and Clive [Thomas] told me years later that he knew he got it wrong but nobody got a second chance against us [Liverpool] and they knew when the final whistle went that their opportunity [to get to the final] was gone." I do think that winning the cup in 1977 could have galvanised Everton to go on and win the title in 1978. Ultimately I don't regret this goal as much as I do the failure of the club to build on the 80s and ensure they remained part of the elite clubs in the 90s.
doubt we would have won league even cup. we were weak at back well in goal. if only billy bingham had seen the true value of having a top goal keeper like peter shilton who we should have got few years earlier 1970s could well have been a great decade for us
Although I am a Evertonian I must admit that Liverpool had some great players that day. Kevin Keegan, Ray Clemence, Emlyn Hughes and Clive Thomas to name a few.😂
A scandalous decision that cost Everton. Would have played Man Utd in the FA Cup final, it was all about him (Clive Thomas). It was never offside or handball, even the Liverpool players didn't appeal.
Wasn't the 1st, n certainly not the last time, bent football has done us against the darlings, oh yeah sorry I'm a bitter blue! 🙄 Amazes me why any reds I speak to, can't even name a single match changing decision in derby's that have gone against them, not one, n yet without even stretching my mind, can name a dozen against us in a heart beat, starting from this fraud decision! And now we have the fabulous Var as a refs fail safe for the media darlings! Corrupt then, even more so now!
Couldn't agree more, we were robbed that day,we had the beginnings of a great team around that time, I didn't like Gordon Lee, mainly for not playing Duncan McKenzie, preferring Jim Pearson, although I have to admit Jim Pearson did have some good games in some of these posts, as a 15 year old at the time I have lots of memories, mainly the pouring rain, I also remember the cans/bottles being thrown between us and them in the Kippax, but at the same Everton/Liverpool in the stand behind the goal sitting side by side getting along fine, where did things go wrong?, I can't understand why we don't have entertainers in the game anymore, I think Everton still have that spirit where local Everton supporting players come up through the ranks, but I think that money and winning at all costs, regardless of fair play has ruined our beautiful game.
Entertainers? Gordon Lee was the man who said flair was what you had on trousers. No wonder he didn't favour McKenzie. Meanwhile, the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Man City, Real Madrid are all great entertainers of today.
Lee got the team away from long ball playing possession-ball-on-the-ground football as we see today. They were good to watch. Fans would get frustrated at seeing a player keep possession not pumping a ball aimlessly into the centre invariably giving the ball away.
Was in the kippax by the fence between the 2 sets of fans ,it was only a 5 ft gap ,before the match started you never saw so many cans being thrown at each other , if the fence hadn't been there there would of been a mass battle , before and after the match both sets of fans were on the same trains and buses ,yet no trouble at all . we were robbed that day without doubt .
@@williamgeoffreyjones3421 What was bollocks that without the fence it would of kicked off I was right there in the middle of it .there was pure hated between the two sets of fans ,by full time it had calmed down that way .. or is it bollocks we were robbed .we were ..no doubt about replay though..
One of my first memories.. oddly watched with my brother and dad! I felt sorry for Lawson who my dad was shouting to get back on his line.. all game.. history is cruel as it's always written by the victors.. I forgot how close EFC where to being something big back then! Although their backline was a shambles!
I was behind the goal. Everton defenders were constantly going forwards to get out of the mud. Look at the goal again. The game should not have been played.
Absolute shite. Manchester Utd have always been the darlings of the FA and the media. Even when they were relegated and during the years when they hardly won anything the media still loved them. Liverpool FC has always been despised by the FA and media.
For years the FA have been made up of Liverpool fans, ex Liverpool people and the like. They used their influence in 1985 to have ALL English clubs banned from Europe when the particular incident ONLY involved Liverpool. Over the years there have been numerous incidents when the FA have thrown the book @ any and every incident involving Utd whereas even racism was almost turned a blind eye to by the PL and the FL when their beloved Liverpool were involved. Indeed as recently as last season a Liverpool player was found GUILTY of taking drugs. Was he banned for life? Were the games he took part in replayed or the points given to the opposition?......Were they fuck as like. Alternatively Rio only missed a drugs test and was banned for 8 months!!!!!!!!!!!!! Typical. United treated like shit whereas the FA's darlings Liverpool get off scot free. Even the courts are in on it. How else can we explain a video of Slippy G knocking the shite out of a DJ with his 10 mates behind him and he gets an acquittal within 30 mins??? Always been the same. It fuckin stinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he used a drug which burns fat. Whether it's a banned drug or not it's a performance enhancer. When you consider some players get banned for a season for missing a test it seems very strange that a player who is found guilty of taking a fat burner is allowed to play immediately after finding that this particular drug wasn't on a banned list. One law for everyone else apart from FA darlings Liverpool.
It's not funny at all! if it's not on the banned list it is fine to take. Any other player on any other team would of been treated the same. Fact is the player was treated badly and missed out on playing in Euros when he had done nothing illegal.
Amazing Clive Thomas managed to referee a World Cup Final as some of his decisions in FA Cup big matches were verging on embarrassing. He certainly didn't like Bryan Hamilton that's for sure, what many people don't know apart from ruling out this perfectly good goal 2 years earlier he ruled out 2 goals for Ipswich in the semi-final replay against West Ham and guess who scored or didn't score them?...
Thomas made a very dodgy decision in the Dutch v Czechoslovakia semi final 76, which he admitted years later, should have been a foul on Cruyff, which he never blew for and the Czechs scored from that incident.
Motson was on about the linesman's flag up for offside. No flag went up. I was there at that end. The replay was clear it was not offside. Motson could see that in the replay so why did he say it was offside?
Referee has the right to call offside regardless of whether or not the linesman has flagged. But that said the decision {incorrectly} was handball. Emlyn Hughes did say on match of the seventies that years later Clive Thomas admitted his mistake but shortly after broadcasting the BBC were forced to make a grovelling apology after receiving a threat of legal proceedings.
@@LEONIDA1899 EFC the whiners of Merseyside. Everton have had plenty of wrong decisions go in their favour down the decades, including against Liverpool, and I've yet to hear a single Everton fan (the so-called "best supporters in the UK") even have the maturity to admit when it happens. But they still bang on and on and on and ON AND ON about a questionable handball decision over 40 years later. That's not good support, that's just living in the past.
the biggest robbery since the 1963 train robbery. 8 years after this referee thomas walked out at Goodison to a crescendo of boos and abuse. Everton fans never forget
The biggest robbery since the 1975 European Cup final when Leeds were robbed by the cheating ref and Franz Beckenbauer. That's why you'll hear us singing we are the champions champions of Europe. We won it but not officially.
I think Thomas disallowed Hamilton's goal for either offside (don't forget in those days level was offside) or more likely handball. Hard to tell for sure because you didn't have all the camera angles we have now, but it looked like he knocked it in with his hand.
Never handball or offside. The linesman admitted in an interview years later that Thomas said it was offside, linesman said he was clearly on, so Thomas said hanball, we have to get our stories straight. Man was a cheat.
I was 13, my brother 17 and a Red, we were listening on radio and when Hamilton's goal went in I started jumping all over him, screaming, winding him up while he kept listening...he screams it was disallowed and he starts on me...ended up in a fist fight, well me trying to punch him while he sat on my 13 year old chest laughing...it all ended in tears that day!
I was at this game with my brother who was an Evertonian then we went to a Kevin keegan night in Dorchester and keegan said to my brother when he was sat with Emlyn Hughes and Emlyn said to Kevin Everton were robbed but we knew you won't get a second chance.
LOL "...both goalkeepers are wearing gloves.." It's amazing to think that goalkeepers used to go out there bare handed up until the 1980's before the rulings changed. Tough, brave men. It was bad enough in the school playground being in goal bare hands
The past was pathetic in so many ways. Can you imagine Man City these days not even having a heavy roller at their disposal. Instead they had an old man with a shovel and his apprentice watching on. By the way, I was at the other semi that day between Leeds and Man U in Sheffield and I don't recall a drop of rain all day in fact as I recall, it was a quite a nice day.
Motson was generally clueless... Bless his soul.... Barry Davies was always the far better and more informed commentator, and it's scandalous how often he was overlooked in favour of Motty for the big games
Clive Thomas used to send out Xmas cards to family and friends that featured a photo of himself. He thought he was bigger than Jesus. So football matches had to be all about him.
Defo handball, right decision ref. Great game, how football should be. I loved those days of mud, blood & some of the best footie ever. Real football for real fans. YNWA
@@Warriorant1 yeah generally though you don't get to FA Cup Finals on the basis of being the 'best team of the era'. You got to this one on the basis that this referee needed to leave the pitch having had more of an impact on proceedings than any player.....
I was right behind that goal sitting in that stand - it was 90% Liverpool fans. If I could zoom in strong enough I would be visible on the TV. The goal was legal without doubt as Thomas has confirmed since. On the day Everton battered them - they were rattled. How Liverpool scored two I don't know. When Ronnie Goodlass was running down the left wing I stood up shouting -"common on Ronnie"._ The ball was crossed to Hamilton I glanced to the linesman to my left - no flag. Hamilton scored with his hip. No Liverpool fan around me complained having a perfect view, like me. They were subdued with the few Evertonians in the stand cheering making a racket with the noise of the Evertonians in the Kippax deafening. No Liverpool players protested. Thomas disallowed the goal, with all the Liverpool fans around me asking themselves why was it disallowed. No one knew. Everton continued the onslaught after with no goal coming. Another thing about the game that was odd, was that the pitch was waterlogged. Heavy rain before the game which stopped just before the kick off. There was pools in the goalmouths. The groundsmen came on the pitch with forks _after_ the players had come on the pitch, while they were doing the kick about, which was very odd. You can see them at 0:47 for a minute or so. Like they wanted the pitch to be too wet - being instructed so. The groundsmen could have been on the pitch half an hour or so before the players came out, when the rain eased off. Liverpool's first goal was because Everton's goalie, Lawson, was too far out being lobbed. He was too far out as he did not want to be stuck in the mud and pools in the goalmouth. He was making it clear by his movements that he was avoiding the mud patch throughout the first half. I was only yards away from him.
"Everton battered them"....eeeerrrrr - no ya never, we had the best of it until the final ten minutes. The fucking myths your fanbase come up with is astonishing.
@@stel3209 Everton *battered* them at times. I was there. You must not make things up. _"Emlyn Hughes would state years later. "Everton were robbed. No doubt about it. They were the better team on the day and Clive [Thomas] told me years later that he knew he got it wrong""_
@@johnburns4017 "I was there" - so what? so was I. You never, ever "battered" us at any stage. You had a good spell for 5 minutes - that's all. Is there anything your demented fanbase don't have myths about. I was in the Kippax next to our stand - there's no way you had 10% - handfuls at the most....we had 70% of the Platt Lane as well, which was supposedly the Everton end. Yet another Everton myth - about the make up of our city. No "tourists" there that day and we well outnumbered ya.
@@stel3209 wrote: _"You never, ever "battered" us at any stage."_ ♦ Emlyn Hughes thought Everton battered them. Do you know he played for Liverpool? And played in that game? ♦ I was in the stand - about 10% Evertonians. Platt Lane was 60-40. Evertonians. ♦ Most noise was from the Evertonians. I was there. *You must stop making things up.*
Comentators never understood a shit about the rules, imagine that goal rulled out for offside. My goodness, could never be on 1st place and clearly it was hand ball
Virtually no real scousers in the Liverpool end. All from shitty Southport,St Helens,Runcon etc. Also Tories won the 1977 local elections on Merseyside to the disgust of Everton fans.
Justice was done. The right team won. Strange that we lost to a shit Man utd side in the final, though. Still, being League and European Champions wasn't a bad end to the season.
You've still never won "THE Treble" yet though ;-) That "shit" Man Utd side stopped you from becoming THE Treble winners and you would have been the first to do so back in 1977!!! ps. Shame for Everton that day. ROBBED!!!!
I was at this game got drenched bricked outside from afar by Manc shithouses and robbed by the redshite fan thomas,went back on the Wednesday got twatted 3 0 and got bricked again loads of fun being a blue.
Correct. They always got strange decisions throughout the 70's and 80's and since the Premier League began in 1992 no club has been awarded more penalties than Liverpool. It stinks !!!
Fuck me...the hypocrisy of Evertonians is breathtaking. VVD was maimed at Goodison this year and some Reds are (obviously) still pissed off with it. The bitters are squealing "Going on about that weeks after - what's wrong with ya"!!!!!.....yet here they are 43 (FORTY THREE!) YEARS later still crying about this handball....fucking move on!
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Duncan McKenzie was real class.
Superb. Just as it should be semi final kicking off on a neutral ground on Saturday afternoon at 3pm.. Absolutely brilliant.. Terry macs chip was sublime, a goal by a master of his art... And to top it all off THAT Pitch, brilliant 70s action at its finest
All Cup semi finals should be played on neutral grounds.The F A are just corrupt liar's..
@@guddlom7655 yep.. Semi's at Wembley NO NO NO...
Rest In Peace Gordon Lee.
those were the days when English football was played by British/Irish players only!!
Absolutely spot on
Always thought at this time a British national football team would have been beneficial on the global scene, especially when you looked at how the likes of Liverpool (and then followers: Forest, Villa, Ipswich, Aberdeen & Everton) dominated....
Spot on lad...
Bryan Hamilton was most certainly Northern Irish/ British.
And played on an atrocious pitch. Today, players would not even go out on that surface. Good old days.
I’m always hoping Hamilton’s goal will stand every time I watch it! Never get over it! We were ROBBED.
It happens now. All the big teams ( the Fa's favourites) get the rub of the green. Always have always will..
It was clearly offside😂🤣
@@tenrgnit was never given for offside. Clive Thomas said it was ‘infringement’ originally meaning handball.
@@tenrgnuse the 6 yard box as a line, clearly a yard onside
Quite agree .Clive Thomas couldn't explain afterwards why he disallowed it
Duncan McKenzie is magic
Great game : great football and fantastic atmosphere !
When this match was being played I was sixteen . I was working part time in a lousy little shoe shop and I hated it . The match was on the radio in the background but it wasn't the same as being at home listening to it .
The following week I walked out of the job after two hours because I'd heard on the grapevine that I was going to be sacked . So I walked out .
Great memories of a great semi final and escaping from a rubbish job .
I was 13, my brother 17 and a Red, we were listening on radio and when Hamilton's goal went in I started jumping all over him, screaming, winding him up while he kept listening...he screams it was disallowed and he starts on me...ended up in a fist fight, well me trying to punch him while he sat on my 13 year old chest laughing...it all ended in tears that day!
Brilliant game,thats what football was like in the 70s pitches were like fields most days,players were always slipping and sliding because of the conditions, made great entertaining for viewing public.
When the FA Cup meant something before it was destroyed bt TV
It was destroyed by the FA, playing semi-finals at Wembley.
@@peterburry2531 that is very true.
@@garyowens1517 like most of us, I used to absolutely love semi-finals day when Villa park, Hillsborough, Old Trafford etc were the venues... Ever since they've been switched to Wembley the magic has been detracted and the final itself feels like just another game.
Remember when FA Cup Final Saturday was completely dedicated to the occasion on both BBC and ITV, with cup final grandstand, It's a Knockout and the team coach journeys to the stadium? Remember when replays were played during the following midweek week rather than about 10 days later when the edge had gone out of the tie?... The FA is utterly clueless and should hand over such decision making to us fans, We understand the game and the big occasions far better than those corporate suits ever will.
@@peterburry2531 yep. I'm 63 and cup final day was a big occasion. Sat in front of the tv all day switching back and forth from bbc to itv then my dad insisting we it on bbc. Now it's got a stupid kick off time. Not the same anymore. Football isn't the same either. Full of over analysis and stupid stats.
@@garyowens1517 All games used to kick off at exactly the same time on exactly the same day. as well. Now that IS where TV has ruined Saturday afternoons. It's ironic that the most exciting day of the season is the final day when this still happens, and a goal in one game can have huge repercussions for a completely separate game being played perhaps 200 miles away.... This used to be a regular Saturday afternoon experience and it was so much better.
(Im' 62 and always preferred the BBC coverage of the final as well)
Years later Thomas confessed in an interview. "I was behind Hamilton when the ball came to him and he moved his arm towards it so when it entered the net I made a gut reaction that he must have handled it. As soon as I blew the whistle I knew from the lack of a reaction from the Liverpool players that I'd made a mistake. It suddenly dawned on me that I hadn't seen the ball hit him on the arm and so shouldn't have blown but it was too late. I was standing in the six yard box dismissing the Everton player's protests knowing that all hell would break loose if I was to suddenly change my mind. It was only when I left the field that a journalist reminded me I had wrongly disallowed an Ipswich semi final winner two years earlier. The scorer, he reminded me, was Brian Hamilton." Emlyn Hughes would state years later. "Everton were robbed. No doubt about it. They were the better team on the day and Clive [Thomas] told me years later that he knew he got it wrong but nobody got a second chance against us [Liverpool] and they knew when the final whistle went that their opportunity [to get to the final] was gone." I do think that winning the cup in 1977 could have galvanised Everton to go on and win the title in 1978. Ultimately I don't regret this goal as much as I do the failure of the club to build on the 80s and ensure they remained part of the elite clubs in the 90s.
Do you have the source for that interview, please?
Ulster Groundhopper crap
Crap
Win the title in 1978?? You have got to be joking. Did you not hear of Nottingham forest and the fantastic season they had?? Poor losers Everton
doubt we would have won league even cup. we were weak at back well in goal. if only billy bingham had seen the true value of having a top goal keeper like peter shilton who we should have got few years earlier
1970s could well have been a great decade for us
what would duncan mckenzie be worth to day pure magic to watch
Oh for them magic days FA CUP SEMI FINAL and Grand National same day ⚽⚽🐴🐴
Although I am a Evertonian I must admit that Liverpool had some great players that day. Kevin Keegan, Ray Clemence, Emlyn Hughes and Clive Thomas to name a few.😂
A scandalous decision that cost Everton. Would have played Man Utd in the FA Cup final, it was all about him (Clive Thomas). It was never offside or handball, even the Liverpool players didn't appeal.
He was a disgraceful corrupt referee who always wanted to be the centre of attention and make a name for himself.
Wasn't the 1st, n certainly not the last time, bent football has done us against the darlings, oh yeah sorry I'm a bitter blue! 🙄 Amazes me why any reds I speak to, can't even name a single match changing decision in derby's that have gone against them, not one, n yet without even stretching my mind, can name a dozen against us in a heart beat, starting from this fraud decision! And now we have the fabulous Var as a refs fail safe for the media darlings! Corrupt then, even more so now!
@@williambeesley9224 Agree with everything you say.
Robbed Ipswich 2 years earlier of going to the FA Final disallowing now 1 but 2 Bryan Hamilton goals in the replay...
Yep. Even' referee ' here as well! Yep football's always been bent too an extent.
Couldn't agree more, we were robbed that day,we had the beginnings of a great team around that time, I didn't like Gordon Lee, mainly for not playing Duncan McKenzie, preferring Jim Pearson, although I have to admit Jim Pearson did have some good games in some of these posts, as a 15 year old at the time I have lots of memories, mainly the pouring rain, I also remember the cans/bottles being thrown between us and them in the Kippax, but at the same Everton/Liverpool in the stand behind the goal sitting side by side getting along fine, where did things go wrong?, I can't understand why we don't have entertainers in the game anymore, I think Everton still have that spirit where local Everton supporting players come up through the ranks, but I think that money and winning at all costs, regardless of fair play has ruined our beautiful game.
Entertainers? Gordon Lee was the man who said flair was what you had on trousers. No wonder he didn't favour McKenzie. Meanwhile, the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Man City, Real Madrid are all great entertainers of today.
Lee got the team away from long ball playing possession-ball-on-the-ground football as we see today. They were good to watch. Fans would get frustrated at seeing a player keep possession not pumping a ball aimlessly into the centre invariably giving the ball away.
Was in the kippax by the fence between the 2 sets of fans ,it was only a 5 ft gap ,before the match started you never saw so many cans being thrown at each other , if the fence hadn't been there there would of been a mass battle , before and after the match both sets of fans were on the same trains and buses ,yet no trouble at all . we were robbed that day without doubt .
Bollocks
@@williamgeoffreyjones3421 What was bollocks that without the fence it would of kicked off I was right there in the middle of it .there was pure hated between the two sets of fans ,by full time it had calmed down that way .. or is it bollocks we were robbed .we were ..no doubt about replay though..
Hardly any boos there.😂
One of my first memories.. oddly watched with my brother and dad! I felt sorry for Lawson who my dad was shouting to get back on his line.. all game.. history is cruel as it's always written by the victors.. I forgot how close EFC where to being something big back then! Although their backline was a shambles!
We were shite mate especially that muppet of a goalie,we never had one decent goalie in the 70s
That ball by. Case for McDermott class
Still makes me sick to this day, never offside, never a handball...
What amazing football...!!!! Not only Beatles's music, but good football...
Everton has the best supporters in the UK
Is that before or after they were rioting at Millwall in January last year?
@@martinodoni8943 before and after. And you are stupid
@@hariwyngriffith3401 you smell bitch
@@LEONIDA1899 you globby bucket of stinking chip oil!
@@hariwyngriffith3401 you're a legend
great game, mcdermotts goal was sublime... oh and the pitch was awesome, could you see todays namby pambys playin on that
I was behind the goal. Everton defenders were constantly going forwards to get out of the mud. Look at the goal again. The game should not have been played.
The pitch was "awesome" if you like agricultural football.
Liverpool the darlings of the FA have always got the decisions and this is just another example of many. Unlucky Everton you deserved to win!
Absolute shite. Manchester Utd have always been the darlings of the FA and the media. Even when they were relegated and during the years when they hardly won anything the media still loved them. Liverpool FC has always been despised by the FA and media.
For years the FA have been made up of Liverpool fans, ex Liverpool people and the like. They used their influence in 1985 to have ALL English clubs banned from Europe when the particular incident ONLY involved Liverpool. Over the years there have been numerous incidents when the FA have thrown the book @ any and every incident involving Utd whereas even racism was almost turned a blind eye to by the PL and the FL when their beloved Liverpool were involved. Indeed as recently as last season a Liverpool player was found GUILTY of taking drugs. Was he banned for life? Were the games he took part in replayed or the points given to the opposition?......Were they fuck as like. Alternatively Rio only missed a drugs test and was banned for 8 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Typical. United treated like shit whereas the FA's darlings Liverpool get off scot free. Even the courts are in on it. How else can we explain a video of Slippy G knocking the shite out of a DJ with his 10 mates behind him and he gets an acquittal within 30 mins??? Always been the same. It fuckin stinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Neutral Observer. why should sakho be banned for life? should never had been banned in the first place.
he used a drug which burns fat. Whether it's a banned drug or not it's a performance enhancer. When you consider some players get banned for a season for missing a test it seems very strange that a player who is found guilty of taking a fat burner is allowed to play immediately after finding that this particular drug wasn't on a banned list. One law for everyone else apart from FA darlings Liverpool.
It's not funny at all! if it's not on the banned list it is fine to take. Any other player on any other team would of been treated the same. Fact is the player was treated badly and missed out on playing in Euros when he had done nothing illegal.
Terrible mistake by Clive Thomas , you have to feel for Everton here.
Amazing Clive Thomas managed to referee a World Cup Final as some of his decisions in FA Cup big matches were verging on embarrassing. He certainly didn't like Bryan Hamilton that's for sure, what many people don't know apart from ruling out this perfectly good goal 2 years earlier he ruled out 2 goals for Ipswich in the semi-final replay against West Ham and guess who scored or didn't score them?...
I should say officiated in World Cup Finals (74, 78)...amazed he got to those heady heights, mixed him up with Jack Taylor.
Thomas made a very dodgy decision in the Dutch v Czechoslovakia semi final 76, which he admitted years later, should have been a foul on Cruyff, which he never blew for and the Czechs scored from that incident.
Motson was on about the linesman's flag up for offside. No flag went up. I was there at that end. The replay was clear it was not offside. Motson could see that in the replay so why did he say it was offside?
Because Motson was a Prat , imho the worse commentator on tele in the 70's 80's 90's and 00's . Barry Davis miles better
Motson was making an assumption because, like the rest of us, he couldn't see why it was disallowed either.
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He shouldn't assume.
Referee has the right to call offside regardless of whether or not the linesman has flagged. But that said the decision {incorrectly} was handball. Emlyn Hughes did say on match of the seventies that years later Clive Thomas admitted his mistake but shortly after broadcasting the BBC were forced to make a grovelling apology after receiving a threat of legal proceedings.
What a great game, when football was played by men and not the fairies that play today and dive every 2 mins.
Right!!
No tattoos.
I'm a West Ham and Celtic fan but Everton WERE robbed in that game!!
Justice was done in the final though!
@@Martrex296 bollocks
Everton. Massive. 💙
Great game in awful conditions but Everton were robbed by our friend Mr Thomas.
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Look at the amount of Liverpool in the Platt Lane...supposedly the Everton end.
In this days merseyside fans often mixed. You can even see clips of Everton fans celebrating goals on the Kop end.
I would not have liked to been responsible for cleaning those kits.
Everton was robbed
Were
As usual.
LFC the shame of the Merseyside
@@LEONIDA1899 EFC the whiners of Merseyside. Everton have had plenty of wrong decisions go in their favour down the decades, including against Liverpool, and I've yet to hear a single Everton fan (the so-called "best supporters in the UK") even have the maturity to admit when it happens. But they still bang on and on and on and ON AND ON about a questionable handball decision over 40 years later. That's not good support, that's just living in the past.
@@martinodoni8943 shut up dick
Worst than cars nicked?
the biggest robbery since the 1963 train robbery. 8 years after this referee thomas walked out at Goodison to a crescendo of boos and abuse. Everton fans never forget
The biggest robbery since the 1975 European Cup final when Leeds were robbed by the cheating ref and Franz Beckenbauer. That's why you'll hear us singing we are the champions champions of Europe. We won it but not officially.
I'm sure Clive the Book Thomas had the last Laugh like he had 8 years earlier at Maine Rd
Clive thomas disallowed that goal v opponents....liverpool....and then allowed an offside goal by ....liverpool in the 1981 lcf
That's because the count was a closet red.
Phil Neal played Hamilton onside
I think Thomas disallowed Hamilton's goal for either offside (don't forget in those days level was offside) or more likely handball. Hard to tell for sure because you didn't have all the camera angles we have now, but it looked like he knocked it in with his hand.
Handball - as other posts testify.
Hit his hip ya fookin dickheads.
I remember he sorted of chested it or hit his midriff it was never handball
Never handball or offside. The linesman admitted in an interview years later that Thomas said it was offside, linesman said he was clearly on, so Thomas said hanball, we have to get our stories straight. Man was a cheat.
I was 13, my brother 17 and a Red, we were listening on radio and when Hamilton's goal went in I started jumping all over him, screaming, winding him up while he kept listening...he screams it was disallowed and he starts on me...ended up in a fist fight, well me trying to punch him while he sat on my 13 year old chest laughing...it all ended in tears that day!
Offside! Get real. There were two Liverpool players in front of him. Inexplicable.
Brilliant that..
Hamilton’s goal should have stood and iam a Liverpool fan
Imagine Messi or Ronaldo playing on a pitch like that!!!!!! They´d be crying for Mummy...
They wouldn't want to go out onto the pitch in case they got their nice clean kit dirty. And then there's dirt under their nails. 🤣
Neymar too.
exactly what is it you've seen in messi that suggests he is a tart?
Messi grew up playing on some atrocious pitches back in Argentina,
I wonder what the Everton player said to the referee at the end.
When football was a man’s game
I was at this game with my brother who was an Evertonian then we went to a Kevin keegan night in Dorchester and keegan said to my brother when he was sat with Emlyn Hughes and Emlyn said to Kevin Everton were robbed but we knew you won't get a second chance.
The great Clive Thomas. In the pantheon of top referees he’s up there with Collina.
😀
11:39 is the infamous incident.
I'd like to see today's prima donna players on a pitch like that.
Why?... The standard lf football is waaaay better on todays pitches.
Robbed that day no offside and the ball com. off Hamilton's hip into the net .
Which stadium is It ?
Maine Road, Man City's old ground.
Could only be Maine Road. Usually was a choice for two North West Clubs
Are you thicko?
Every team has had incidents like this...The truly great teams motor on. Just sayin' how it is.
They were robbed on the day though. Very sad.
LOL "...both goalkeepers are wearing gloves.." It's amazing to think that goalkeepers used to go out there bare handed up until the 1980's before the rulings changed. Tough, brave men. It was bad enough in the school playground being in goal bare hands
It's not a ruling! A goalkeeper doesn't have to wear gloves!
The past was pathetic in so many ways. Can you imagine Man City these days not even having a heavy roller at their disposal. Instead they had an old man with a shovel and his apprentice watching on. By the way, I was at the other semi that day between Leeds and Man U in Sheffield and I don't recall a drop of rain all day in fact as I recall, it was a quite a nice day.
Yes, people harping on about the past as if everything was perfect. It wasn't. Shocking pitches, rampant racism and homophobia....
What is John Motson banging on about....... offside??
I think he was just as baffled as everyone else about how it could be invalid.
Motson was generally clueless... Bless his soul.... Barry Davies was always the far better and more informed commentator, and it's scandalous how often he was overlooked in favour of Motty for the big games
Clive Thomas always did like to be the centre of attention. There have been a few others like that since then and it makes you a bad referee.
One of many dodgy Derby decisions against Everton over the years.
I remember he gave it as handball but it was chested in great game an atmosphere mind
Come now! It's not liverpools fault....................................................it never is!
The problem with Clive Thomas was that it had to be all about him, and Everton paid the price for that on that day.
i remember this well it was a bit of a sticky toffee pudding of a pitch and yes i think that everton were robbed by the referee
Battered them in the replay. Clive Thomas was an excellent ref. great spot of that snide handball.
Clive Thomas used to send out Xmas cards to family and friends that featured a photo of himself. He thought he was bigger than Jesus. So football matches had to be all about him.
A year later Clive Thomas made a total fool of himself on the world stage.
Yep Brazil v Sweden 😳
big semis liv v eve and utd v leeds
everton were robbed by Thomas but Jim Pearson's hair is great!
Sir Clive Thomas best referee ever.
If you like incompetent cheats, then fine.
You are mental
We drew 3-2!😂 ynwa
amazing how decisions by referee in this game still go against us even to this day cheating at its highest order
If VAR was in use in the 70s and 80s the redshite would have won sod all.
And when var is in use...it helps us win everything lol.
There's an old saying...losers us excuses
We were the best team in EUROPE...let alone England you bitter twat.
Lawson darracot mcnaught Lyons Pearson hamilton,we were never going to beat them.l was there we did play ok but liverpool had the better chances.
Mile on and Thomas admitted it later. Cheats always prosper.
Defo handball, right decision ref. Great game, how football should be. I loved those days of mud, blood & some of the best footie ever. Real football for real fans. YNWA
Hit his hip ya clown.
@@gazrev7671 Hey Gary, I was being sarcastic you muppet. We were lucky that day but still the best team of the era. YNWA
@@Warriorant1 yeah generally though you don't get to FA Cup Finals on the basis of being the 'best team of the era'. You got to this one on the basis that this referee needed to leave the pitch having had more of an impact on proceedings than any player.....
I am a Liverpool fan and it is true..Everton were lucky to get a draw and we even had to play on a "Goodison" type pitch
Robbed yet again did not think this could get any worse until I saw the Hanson hand ball at Wembley.
Everton should have won.this game(
we were robbed, again
Dai Xaives should of been in Goal
Dai Davies should of been in GOAL
I was right behind that goal sitting in that stand - it was 90% Liverpool fans. If I could zoom in strong enough I would be visible on the TV. The goal was legal without doubt as Thomas has confirmed since. On the day Everton battered them - they were rattled. How Liverpool scored two I don't know.
When Ronnie Goodlass was running down the left wing I stood up shouting -"common on Ronnie"._ The ball was crossed to Hamilton I glanced to the linesman to my left - no flag. Hamilton scored with his hip. No Liverpool fan around me complained having a perfect view, like me. They were subdued with the few Evertonians in the stand cheering making a racket with the noise of the Evertonians in the Kippax deafening. No Liverpool players protested. Thomas disallowed the goal, with all the Liverpool fans around me asking themselves why was it disallowed. No one knew.
Everton continued the onslaught after with no goal coming.
Another thing about the game that was odd, was that the pitch was waterlogged. Heavy rain before the game which stopped just before the kick off. There was pools in the goalmouths. The groundsmen came on the pitch with forks _after_ the players had come on the pitch, while they were doing the kick about, which was very odd. You can see them at 0:47 for a minute or so. Like they wanted the pitch to be too wet - being instructed so. The groundsmen could have been on the pitch half an hour or so before the players came out, when the rain eased off.
Liverpool's first goal was because Everton's goalie, Lawson, was too far out being lobbed. He was too far out as he did not want to be stuck in the mud and pools in the goalmouth. He was making it clear by his movements that he was avoiding the mud patch throughout the first half. I was only yards away from him.
Brilliant analysis, absolutely fascinating.
Yes, a terrible terrible decision, not corrupt I think, just over confident and plain wrong.
"Everton battered them"....eeeerrrrr - no ya never, we had the best of it until the final ten minutes. The fucking myths your fanbase come up with is astonishing.
@@stel3209
Everton *battered* them at times. I was there. You must not make things up.
_"Emlyn Hughes would state years later. "Everton were robbed. No doubt about it. They were the better team on the day and Clive [Thomas] told me years later that he knew he got it wrong""_
@@johnburns4017 "I was there" - so what? so was I. You never, ever "battered" us at any stage. You had a good spell for 5 minutes - that's all. Is there anything your demented fanbase don't have myths about. I was in the Kippax next to our stand - there's no way you had 10% - handfuls at the most....we had 70% of the Platt Lane as well, which was supposedly the Everton end. Yet another Everton myth - about the make up of our city. No "tourists" there that day and we well outnumbered ya.
@@stel3209 wrote:
_"You never, ever "battered" us at any stage."_
♦ Emlyn Hughes thought Everton battered them. Do you know he played for Liverpool? And played in that game?
♦ I was in the stand - about 10% Evertonians. Platt Lane was 60-40. Evertonians.
♦ Most noise was from the Evertonians. I was there.
*You must stop making things up.*
Comentators never understood a shit about the rules, imagine that goal rulled out for offside. My goodness, could never be on 1st place and clearly it was hand ball
Keegan was far a better player than McKensie
Bastards got away with it 🤬
We was robbed...
Always the same old story Everton were robbed of a legitimate goal
Hamilton was offside anyway ees a bluenose and they shouldn't av won anyway
Please read the comments on here.
Robbed
Plonker Clive Thomas
Everton getting robbed by refs against liverpool. Nothing changes lol
Clive cheating thomas
see my above comment
Good decision to disallow the Everton goal ... Liverpool should have won easy they had many chances to make it 3-1
Never mind a doubting Thomas how about a cheating Thomas
a inglaterra das antiga era foda
This means The old England fuck???
@@craigeast3682 "old england was awesome"
Virtually no real scousers in the Liverpool end. All from shitty Southport,St Helens,Runcon etc.
Also Tories won the 1977 local elections on Merseyside to the disgust of Everton fans.
Justice was done. The right team won.
Strange that we lost to a shit Man utd side in the final, though. Still, being League and European Champions wasn't a bad end to the season.
You've still never won "THE Treble" yet though ;-) That "shit" Man Utd side stopped you from becoming THE Treble winners and you would have been the first to do so back in 1977!!! ps. Shame for Everton that day. ROBBED!!!!
What does the European cup, League champion's & League cup winners equal then? 15 years before 99.
@BadAcid
On the day Everton were by far the better team.
@@johnburns4017 myth...you had the last 5-10 minutes...
Lawson was a disastrous goalie one of the worst in our history.
Clive Thomas the first of a long line of red shite referees who done Everton over.
I was at this game got drenched bricked outside from afar by Manc shithouses and robbed by the redshite fan thomas,went back on the Wednesday got twatted 3 0 and got bricked again loads of fun being a blue.
Liverpool getting dodgy decisions from refs in their favour. 43 years ago and not much has changed lol
Correct. They always got strange decisions throughout the 70's and 80's and since the Premier League began in 1992 no club has been awarded more penalties than Liverpool. It stinks !!!
This was at maine road manchester city ... before city became a plastic mercenary club
When they were shite
Fuck me...the hypocrisy of Evertonians is breathtaking. VVD was maimed at Goodison this year and some Reds are (obviously) still pissed off with it. The bitters are squealing "Going on about that weeks after - what's wrong with ya"!!!!!.....yet here they are 43 (FORTY THREE!) YEARS later still crying about this handball....fucking move on!
Coming from the fans known for. Always the victims never your fault
@@saradrugi6760 that is exactly my point you dhead - we get called it - yet you squeal about decisions from 45 years ago!!!
robbed...by a cheating ref......
Everton where robbed...clive thomas,the ref was as bent as a 9 bob note