Repair & restoration of a scratched PS2 game disc - Howto resurface discs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ม.ค. 2021
- In this video I will repair this Playstation 2 game I got free with Playstation 2 slim I restored on my main channel, Odd Tinkering. This method is called resurfacing.
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My dad is a car painter. In those days of PS2, he did the same to all scratched discs, totally without knowledge about layers and stuff. He just came up with idea, that if he can renew cars' surface with pastes, maybe he could do the same with discs' ones and fix them the same way. He cleaned them with cologne, used car paste for bigger scratches then paste for smaller ones, just like you. It worked like gold, and most of games became playable again. This video brought back memories and smells :)
Totally worth it
my dad used cologne as well, i didn’t know it was cologne though and he told me not to use it all, but i really wanted to play this one game so i kept using it to clean it under the assumption that it would work at some point, let’s just say he was not happy when i used a whole half 80 dollar bottle of cologne on a video game
@@joshuajones4472 No surprised, that your dad was mad if it was that expensive :D Mine had a surplus of cologne after christmas, so it was easier to sacrifice one of his bottles as a disc cleaner and when we ran a ,,cologned" game in the console, the smell was spreading in all room, better than air conditioner :) Now, everytime I smell cologne, I think ,,Oh boi, smells like game cleaner
Your dad is a genius haha
May i ask, do i need to just apply the toothpaste on the cd since i dont have any resources right now? After apply, what should i do, leave it just like that or wash it with water?
Repaired it down to the point of giving it a brand new case. Your work is immaculate and inspiring. Keep up the great work!
Its a crime that you get your first reply at 712 likes.
It is inspiring but if I tried this there would be more scratches then what it started with.
@@cezzy_1496 haha dude I didn’t even realize I had this many likes! I’m just glad there that many people watching this and showing support.
@@Joey_Youngace What can I say? Love seeing people showing support to a creator lol.
@@cezzy_1496 much love bro! Positive vibes only love and prosperity all 2021 ✊🏾💯
That disc anatomy diagram was such a simple way to explain it, it was beautiful
yeh a pity it was absolutely incorrect though, the label is the game, the lable is the aluminium part that is the games data, if that is damaged in any way the game won't play
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4not true cuz i absolute fucked up a label once on a game disc and it worked perfectly
"It didn't work on any of my PS2s" lol I'm imagining this man just has 7 or more PS2 consoles he's restored all organized in a container
Better excuse to have so many than I do, I have three that I don't know how i got >>" don't know what to do with two of em
@@Samas-tq4bw you could give one to a poor kid 🤷♀️
I would if I had all the wires, feels like a jerk move to provide a console without em :/
@@Samas-tq4bw I have the wires but my ps2 just broke disk tray pretty upset just got a good amount of games to it also svr 06 svr 07 nba street and hulk can’t even play them
@@Samas-tq4bw ohhhh ok, yeah I agree 😕
Every kid who lived in the 90s will treat you as a God if you had these skills back then.
I did, and in the 80's too. We were usually using toothpaste, but in general we were cautious not to scratch our valuable gear, so damages were rare.
@@thefreedomguyuk I used toothpaste on my scratched disks too. It didn't work :(
Only Lord Jesus Christ can be God as we all will find out on judgement day. He is the Just Judge.
@@thespaceram2879 kind of random but amen to that :)
@@thespaceram2879 Jesus isn't God.
If only my 12 year old self known this before doing those 'hacks' that were used with something like. . . a banana .
I've seen that work. I don't know why it works, but no harm trying.
Haha! Never heard of that one I think the tooth paste actually sometimes works for a while
Yes, I've heard of the old "toothpaste" trick, and it seems to work on very fine scratches.
I use to use clean discs with Windex.
@@Odd_Experiments hi
I've been in the data recovery industry for the last 23 years and we recover optical media as well. The dye layer is actually on the topside of the disk (label side) and needs to taken care of. If the polyester side (shiny side) being scratched is causing the read errors, simply clean it with IPA and coat it with clear polyurethane spray and they will read every time.
What do you do after spraying? And for how long/much do you spray?
@@tarnation4448 Just enough to fill in the scratches. Let dry and read it.
Thanks for this tip. I have thought about using a clear spray but was hesitant if it would work. 👍
@ Is that polyurethane thing a sealant foam ? Because that's the only thing I can find in my country..
sorry bad English..
@@KingSKuLLY7 my hesitance was right. Apparently the clear coat i thought of contains acetone, butyl acetate, propanol & butane. So I guess it is not advisable to use it on disks. The brand is Motip.
Right as I thought it would end he makes a new case. Brings a tear to my eye.
he actually did it, he fixed scratches in discs, he's a legend
He didn't tho, he just removed the upper layer of the disc, if the discs get scratched again they won't be usable anymore.
@@Ebani Yea but the disc is in better hands now so the problem has been corrected
@@tacoengineer6660 If you say so
@@Ebani Of course, but most of the scratching can be avoided anyways so it should work for a long time.
@@jonr9467 Probably got another 10-20 years in it but eventually discs degrade over time used or not.
Basically you win because it's yamcha.
LOL
Smile, sweet, sister, sadistic, suprise, service,
*Snoop Dogg!!*
I was going to say the same thing.
Whats yamcha?
@@joaofeh TFS reference in 2021? Nice one. Wanna hear a joke? It starts with ''i killed your dad!''
- So haha funny?
I bought a huge lot of PS2 games recently and a ton of them weren't working at all. Thought I was going to have to throw them out.
But I found this video, then went and found that polishing paste in a car parts shop near me, and it works like a charm! All of the discs I've tried this method on are working perfectly now! Thank you so much, love the channel
The reason you clean a disc from the center out, is because of how the data is "tracked" in the disc. It reads radially. If you clean, sand or polish radially around the disc, you could introduce a scratch that follows these tracks and it makes it a lot more difficult to repair.
Years of hoarding several scratched PS2 discs have finally led up to this moment. I finally don't have to experiment with a banana or toothpaste anymore
B A N A N A
T O O T H P A S T E
E X P E R I M E N T!
For me it was Windex aha shit was like magic
i also put my scratches disks in the freezer. After a session of bananas and toothpaste
I'm so glad I havent thrown away any of my old discs now
same
😭😭😭
Same here.
Look at ebay maybe you got some gems to sell
i just broke some last week 🤦🏻
LMAO, Yamcha hit you with the ability, but his character can't stay in the air too long like others and he floated to the ground before you landed.
Classic xD
Yamcha got yamcha'd
dam lol
epic!
I remember those days when you openend a fresh newly bought game that smell will stick forever
You just made me cry a little when you said that. Nothing beats the smell of that, or the smell of Blockbuster.
That kid who bought my ps2 collection for 20 bucks is probably rubbing his hands like birdman right now.....
😂😂
I bought a ps2 for $30 cuz the disc door doesn’t open 👏😏
i just bought a laptop for 200$ so i can emulate ps2 on it
@@dhruvavikas1632 I tried playing guitar hero 1 on my newer $300 laptop and it was kinda buggy so I found a great condition ps2 slim with 2 official controllers and couple games for $140. The stores were out of them in my area
@@BrandonWingerAir must be intel
I should recommend this video to my local library.
They should have resurfacing devices for this purpose.
@@Aivottaja (dot dot dot) _should_
This is awesome
Yeah, ALL local libraries need those! Especially for those out-of-print titles!
Wouldn't that be a dream come true.
Absolutly awesome your work, i love the way you dedicate time to all this stuff, i love to repair old things like you, and the way you explain all what you do is great! Keep working like this bro! Congrats
back in the day I used a foam buffing pad designed for polishing glass that was the same diameter as a cd and used the cream provided and it worked like a charm so both methods clearly work if done correct. great video as always Odd.
if the scratches ain't so bad it might work , but 99 percent of the time they don't work because the scratches are too bad, and when they're too bad nothing works, car polish, tooth paste ,fine grit sand paper and polish nothing works, I'm surprised playstation 2 is the most successful video game of all time considering the games are on discs, all that surface area to be scratched, almost everything in this world can be fixed but not playstation discs,
Or xbox series x disks my goat simulator 3 disc has just 1 little scratch and Won't work
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 id assume in most cases should work - the guy method explaining, is exactly same what i used yesterday and visually they were buffed, im about to test if there is something else that damaged it eventually during process that cant be seen.
The "miracle", as you call it, was just a coincidence, because the opponent left the ring before you, just for milliseconds I guess. Nice tutorial :D
Exactly. Yamcha landed after the combo before Vegeta fell to the ground.
@@AmartharDrakestone You are right!
So Odd Tinkering won the same way Ten Shin Han won the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai, is that what you're saying?
@@avantesma1 That is right. Except nobody hit a bus.
Nah... Vegata is simply better and much more of a bad ass so judges don’t mess with him.
Who just blew on the disc and used their shirt to clean it
I still do
It's easier to ask who didn't do that
😂😂😂
@@toast_bath5937 Some psychopaths probably...
@@_Killkor Wdym? Works a charm.
If more people existed like you , the world would be a better place ! Keep it up sir !
Always amazing work. Love these videos you make. Never unsatisfactory.
I was thinking during the PS2 Slim video, "watch, he'll find a way to fix the game without a resurfacer too." Yep! I salute you, sir.
Great trick! This also made me nostalgic to old PS2 games might have to find one online. In reference to how you won match, that "Ring Out" was actually Yamcha's. The end of the move has him stand on the ground. When he dashed towards you, you were out of the ring, but flying. When the move ended, it put him immediately on the ground while you were knocked back and then landed on the ground. It's a split second, but Yamcha was out first.
I figured that's probably what happened. I'm not too familiar with the game and I was wondering why the NPC would do something that results to them going down 😂 I would do that myself because I have no idea how to play
🤣🤣 Ir maybe its just that the game is configured in a way that makes it reasonable the fact that Yamcha really just dont stand a chance against Vegeta 😅😅 so even if Yamcha wins, he looses
good luck finding games for it that work
Thank you! Your explanation of the layers of the disk helped a lot. I was able to use toothpaste as my abrasive with my finger and a little water, and successfully got my Jak & Daxter disk to come back to life!
This was so satisfying and wholesome to watch, somebody restoring and preserving one of the best games on PS2.
Well Budokai tenkaichi2 and 3 are better
@@bowserpog jo
*8 year old me using peanut butter to clean a disc before running it under water in the bathroom*
“i am simply a technological genius”
If everybody learned to repair their possessions instead of just throwing them in the garbage then our planet would be a cleaner place. Your videos are far more important than you realise from a world view plus they're extremely entertaining too. Please keep up the amazing work! :-D
That’s why right to repair is so important, so people can actually repair their possessions instead of being forced by buy new.
How about not having garbage in the first place?
@@carlosg3799 Impossible. The state of California is literally full of garbage, all over the place..
If everyone just took better care of their shit it wouldn't get broken
Sorry, this is a disposable culture altogether
Holy heck, I could possibly finally restore my poor Lego game disks, I was a dumb kid back then so they’re kinda beat up so I’m so thankful there is some way to fix some damage.
Thank you for this!
don't bother trying to polish them trust me you'll just be super disappointed like me, 2 weeks trying this method and no games worked
Not only did you clean/repair a disc that many would have simply tossed, but you gave it a brand new case……I almost feel emotional over it 🥺
Brother ... you repaired what once was my childhood ... RESPECT ✊
Out of all the games you could have found in the ps2, you found my #1 game from childhood 😂
Just wanna say, i enjoy watching your other channel for game console restoration, and I really appreciate this video! I was able to restore my old Mario Kart: Double Dash disc using your method in this video, and I just wanted to say thanks for the tutorial!
I did this too today, in desperation to fix my Crash Team Racing disc for PS1- and it worked! Thanks for this lifesaver of a video!!!
Shop clerk: how much isopropyl alcohol do you want?
Odd: yes.
not too much tho. learned the hard way
Lmao
I used the only white type toothpaste method with a microcloth I had, it started to work but it couldn’t buff away all the skipping and glitching. As I tried polishing it again and again I started to get a little rough on them, big mistake, it ended up fucking them up completely unreadable but tbh the games were preety beat up, basically if it’s still somewhat playable it’s savable but you have to be very gentle, if it’s not playable the polish repair just won’t do. You can try to find a machine near you to repair the disc comepletely but honestly your better off buying a new copy. Luckily most ps2 games are cheap compared to retail prices.
I have over 50 ps2 discs from the early 2000s, all pretty scratched and a lot of free time. Gonna try this. Thanks
Rain x for car windshields also fixes scratched c.d's and games, apply, let sit for a min. Buff with dry paper towel. Do this 2-3 times.
@@Johnny.1965 Cool. I want to see it in action before I test cause I dont want you to be scamming me, but thanks
I you're a slacker like me, just buy a skip doctor ...
@Kyroh Rin That makes sense
@Kyroh Rin A tool to remove layers of polymere on cd\dvd.
There are some other brands\technologies but we were using this one 15 years ago and it still on sale apparently.
I’ve gotten PS2 games from friends over the years who treated them badly, I used to get my stuff resurfaced but this home remedy is looking EXTREMELY promising! Thank you!
😂😂😂😂 you'll be lucky
Dude, I've just repaired this exact same game I hadn't played in almost 10 years cause of the damage it received due to heavy use. Thank you so much (tho it's far from being the best Tenkaichi title), I owe you childhood memories.
Whoa, i'm gonna try this. Your restorations are usually way out of my league but i could actually do some good on my old discs with this. Cheers
I think it’s simple
1. He cleaned with iso Alcohol
2. He polished with something they use for cars (need to check)
3. He polished further with polishing liquid
It’s pretty simple like the comment above me said, except he used a compound that’s meant for paint in cars and then followed up with a polish.
I wish I knew about this 10-15 years ago as a kid, would've saved me a lot of trouble
Incredible, informative. Thank you I'll never toss or give up on scratched discs
You sir are a genius. Just found uour channel and this video has blown me away. Good job dude
As for the final match, the attack animation and knock back angled you slightly upward, while Yamcha was low enough to the ground to be forced to land. In the World Martial Arts Tournament, you suffer a loss and a Ring Out by touching the ground outside of the ring.
But also great work, man, I'm inspired to do some repairs and tinkering of my own haha
Wtf are you actually talking bout...
@@zipperblues6714 watch the full video and you would know
@@zipperblues6714 🤣🤣🤣
I remember many years ago, probably back in the early to mid 2000s, there was this product called Disc Doctor. I rented one from a supplier to repair some of my scratched CDs and DVDs. I don't remember much how it worked. Probably used some kind of polishing compound that was automatically applied to the surface of the disc while the device spun at a low RPM. Cleaned the discs quite well from what I can recall remembering. Sadly, they don't make that product anymore where I live.
A nearly Identical product is sold under the name "skipDr" on amazon. I'm wary of them, but thought I'd let you know. www.amazon.com/Skip-Classic-Disc-Repair-System/dp/B003YQ9RYM
I remember having something like this.
You put the disc in a clamshell style case. Sort of like a waffle maker. You’d apply some spray to it first, and then it had a crank on it that would spin the disc around inside.
Once the polish was on, you’d then apply a thicker paste and do the same thing.
Sadly, it wasn’t that good. In theory, it does similar things to this video...but all of it was a little janky.
They were used for more light scratches that could make a game or movie hitch at certain spots before playing again. I remember having one of those Disc cleaning kits and it didn’t do anything for deep scratches for some games my brothers and I played.
I truly admire your patience.
OMG. THANK YOU. I LEARNED DISC ROT BECAUSE OF YOU AND I WAS THINKING OF TAKING MY PS2 TO REPAIR, NOW I KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE TO. JUST EARNED A SUBSCRIBER BRO
You can see Yamcha stupidly touch the ground before Vegeta hits it.
@SunglazzGaming Yamcha just proved he was superior to Vegeta, he just didnt wanna hurt Bulma's feelings. XD
@@Trayton yamcha the goat💀
Stupidly, like all Yamcha does.
Hmmmm gotta try this out with some DVD's.
Many DVD rental and game rental shops had a buffing disk that they used on all the games to remove scratches, where you could see the scuff marks on the disk, but they would, because of the error correction on the disk, work well enough.
Oh man I can't wait to watch toy story 3 again
How did it go?
Same.
@@pastryguy2972 I can't wait to watch ice age dawn of the dinosaurs again
This made me so happy. Such care and love for the game :)
Amazing work, you are truly professional on it restorations, Congratulations! 😃
Yamcha: wins
Game: "Nope! Doesn't count!"
winning hate yamcha
yamcha hate game
toriyama hates yamcha
Looks like Yamcha hits the ground first after his combo.
@@talison4634 oh... he landed before Vegeta finished falling, losing by ring-out. You got a good eye. Or both eyes, idk.
Your knowledge, technical skill, and most of all, your immense attention to detail, never fail to amaze me 🙏🏼
Absolute legend. Just did this to get Spider-man 2 for GameCube working. Thank you so much
This type of knowledge would've been great in my youth with the amount of times I had to deal with scratched discs on my consoles.
I remember when learning about repairing scratch discs when I was a teen , Scratch Dr at GameStop , that "special cream" that one dab and a cloth to buff out scratches , toothpaste, toilet water , rubbing alcohol, and the time I've spent on the internet looking up different methods, can't wait to try this.
fun fact: repairing cd/dvd is exactly the same process as restoring faded car's headlights...So, just buy a headlight restoring kit and you have all you need to.
some headlight restoring kits feature 400 grit sandpaper hhh
Thx for the advice
Buy a good one, though. Some of them are far too rough.
are they supposed to look liquid? i have one here that's liquid yet idk if it works, maybe i mustn't wash the disc after i polished with it (not gonna use the sandpaper since the highest i can go is 1000 i think)
Head light restorationkits are usually too aggressive for a thin polycarbonate layer of a disc.
Great effort in restoring the disc. It was worth your time.
This neat polishing and cutting is so satisfying to watch😂
Seeing how careful he is with everything makes me really happy. Im sure the CD is also happy to be back in its place. Im such a child hahaha
I agree.
before o thought that dvds are very very complex but now i learnt they are really simple storages for data
It’s like how a vinyl works but with a laser instead of a needle
@@equinox322-8 Con is that disc in the future would prone to Disc Rot, in where the Disc can get too old, that the edges of the Disc will show weird cracks and stuff, meaning any data there is permanently gone.
@@SMEARGLEX75 Its a shame but when all discs start to rot we'll luckily still have the archived PS2 library on the internet
@@tacoengineer6660 Yeah...
@Kyroh Rin yed
Going from the center of the disc out to clean it IS the proper way! You can even refer to gaming companies in their manuals I’m sure it might be the same for DVDs in the older days.
Pov: your watching this helplessly knowing u cant get the stuff he has
Plastx polish at walmart my dude.
@@suhandatanker these dudes act like walmart is every around the world
@@justsomesleapydudeonacouch4524 ikr it's only for america (and some European countries tho it's called asda) the only Walmart ever opened in my country got shut down after a few weeks from poor sales lmaooo
@@suhandatanker deadass
@@justsomesleapydudeonacouch4524 ?
I can hear the announcer in the anime, “It seems that the recovery from Yamcha’s Wolf Fang Fist technique caused him to hit the ground first! Well folks, that’s the kind of ending to a fight you’d only see here, at the World Martial Arts Tournament!”
Wait wait wait, this is actually how Tenshinhan won against Goku (more or less). If anything that Vegeta victory was exactly what the spectators expected.
This polishing repair only works with bought discs. The home burned discs have the data much closer to the surface.
No one cares about home burned discs buddy
@@patthegoat I do. Actually some of those home burned discs might actually be more important since you've stored personal irreplaceable data instead of some game you can buy again
@@patthegoat It was useful information, why are you so negative?
who told you that? the data in both dvds and dvdrs is exactly in the middle.
@@patthegoat Some people might care about that so they dont completely ruin their home videos but he BEST part is nobody cares about you
I remembered when i was a kid, my neighbour said that for scratched discs, you have to use toothpaste and then use a napkin. It always worked but back then I didnt know why. Now I know. Thanks for this video. Educational
This video save a lot of my discs, thank-you!
Restore and fix the damaged things is an art and you sir are a master of that ! I love to watch your videos and learn from you .
Still waiting for that nemo sticker repair!
I learn cool stuff in this video and the ps2 one. Can't wait to see more!
I bought a copy of LCS for ps2 online and it arrived so scratched it would not play. I took it to my local video game store and they put it in the scratch repair machine. Cost me $6. Got home still did not work. After seeing your video I used some chrome polish I had and now it works great. Thanks
Bro why was nothing like this around when I was growing up playing Xbox 360😭😭 all we had was people telling you to use tooth paste and to put it in the microwave for 2 min😂😂
If you use toothpaste made with baking soda, it actually works like a polish!
The baking soda is abrasive and I've used it to remove oxidation and scracthes from my car's headlights!
Not sure how microwaves would help haha
@@immichaelyeh the microwave would fry the aluminum layer of the disc lol
@@immichaelyeh Microwaving it is how you destroy the data beyond salvation. Excellent for getting rid of that compromising data and for making sparks. 😂
Microwave?
Bro. . I knew someone who tried that and ruined like three games. Lmao
Really love this channel. It makes me so, so, happy to see all these old pieces of hardware getting restored.
Same
Incredible! I have the perfect game to try this on as it currently won’t read in any of my GameCube or wii consoles (sky’s of Arcadia). Thanks so much!
Just that holographic shine to the disc is giving me nostalgia
So what ended up happening at the end was that Yamcha activating his special move made him land on the ground but since you were on the tournament stage that meant that landing on anything besides the central platform meant you'd be out of bounds. So basically Yamcha yamcha'd himself.
i love how much effort you put into your projects. So cool
Watching you cut the printed cover art was satisfying as all hell and I don't exactly know why, ahaha. But overall, love seeing you bring a good ol PS2 game back from death.
I used Scratch Doctor and it worked great! Finally can play some of my old games again :)
Just tried it now on a call of duty 2 disc that wouldn’t load past the first level, game now works perfectly!
wow my dude. you really go above and beyond with your projects. that case looks better that the ones that gamestop makes.
Where did you find the rubber pad ? Very cool by the way, thank you.
Yay I am very happy to of seen this. I have a quiet a bit of ps 2 games that been scratched up. That no matter that I tried to use to fix the issues nothing seemed to work. Now I will have to test this out some days
Thanks it works I got both products and only used the fine cut so far and my disks that wouldn’t load worked so I know the other would be double tap 👌🏾
It example of how a disc works and how it works when damage is the best example I've ever seen! Also the particular DBZ game you repaired is nostalgia 😍
When the end of world arrives ... I want this guy on my team !!!!
I tried this today and... it worked!!!!
I repaired an old gran turismo 3 that my cousins gave me, and a harry potter game that lagged. They run smooth like silk now.
I would use Brasso scratch remover. Then I would use jewelry polishing rouge with a buffing wheel on a drill. It worked like a charm. The Brasso was mainly for deep scratches.
Me with my old PS2: This information is worth millions!
I wish I knew someone with your skill set to fix such stuff in my country! Damn, your work is perfect! I can smell the passion all the way from here.
PS2 games dont play for a million different reasons not just that they have a scratch or scratches, I sent my games in to get resurfaced they came back looking like new absolutely mirror Finnish perfect yet none of them worked
@@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4 alright but I'm just impressed with this dude's talent!
I'm thinking the PS2 DBZ game let you win the match as a way of saying thank you for restoring it and getting it a brand new case to call home. Well done!
This was great. I never knew about the layers either. We used to do the same with toothpaste. But only the cheap stuff that was all white.
you literally treat everything with so much care
Thank you SO MUCH for this! I shared this with my dad bc he knows more about this stuff than I do, and with that video, he managed to repair my childhood favorite game that hasn't worked in at least 5 years because of scratches. Once again thank you, SO MUCH!
Witch game is that?
@@danypouliot5237 jo
The game let you win that match as gratitude for bringing it back to life 🥺
Ur seriously amazing. Liked and subbed!
Thank you so much! Your tutorial is very detail and helpful 🙂 Gotta try this to clean some of my PS2 and PS3
This right here is the definitive video on how to fix a scratched up CD.
@ Odd Experiment's your videos very helpful man thanks so much.
It does honestly make a difference what ps2 your using and is your laser is strong enough to read scratched discs. My friend had a og slim and it didn’t read any scratched discs just near perfect ones. I bought the last ps2 version 90000 and it played all of his games first try. I also had a fat ps2 but I replaced the laser and it too worked.