Every NHL Team's MOST CHEATINGEST Moment
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
- Cheating has no place in the NHl. Yet, here we are. Every NHL team, even the Seattle one has cheated, and today you're going to learn all about those nefarious incidents. Let's do it.
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Senators “Oh some guy had an illegal stick”
Sabres “Oh that’s cool we once helped a man defect from Russia so he could play with us”
Also, Washington and Pittsburgh moments aren't the cheatingest moments. Pittsburgh has the whole Geno in Russia controversy and Washington has Tom Wilson and the most PED suspensions in the 2010s.
thedominatior39 R the Red Wings did that more than once. Federov was the first
The Wings got at least 3 of their 5 Russians out at pretty much the same time. Really beats the Sabers on that front.
Mogilny was the first one however; I will say though Detroit certainly took the idea and ran with it.
So did the red wings. this list sucks if 'the joe had springy boards' is a 'cheat'. Everyone knows the joe had springy boards.
As a Pens fan I would say their most cheating moment was throwing games to get the 1st round pick that drafted Lemieux.
Chase O'Hern
They also intentionally sent down their starting goalie because he was winning too many games and tried to trade their best goal scorer, who, unbelievably enough, scored 50 goals in 1985 even though the entire team was tanking. Hell, the GM even went inside the Penguins locker room after the 1st period of a game against the Rangers where they were up 3-1. After his “motivating” speech, the Pens lost 6-3. Coincidence? I think not.
The last game of the year was against the Devils, who happened to be vying for the 1st overall pick as well. Pittsburgh was leading before dropping the ball and losing the game.
Tanking in pure form
Except that, under today's view of sports, this would be considered smart rather than cheating. Just ask Philadelphia...
Creighton Rabs
The main difference between Philly and Pittsburgh is that the current form of tanking isn’t a guarantee to get the 1st overall pick, especially in the NBA where the projected team to get the first overall pick can slide down to 14th if the odds are that brutal. In 1985 NHL, if you finished last in the league, you were guaranteed the 1st overall pick no matter what, just like the NFL. And unlike the NBA, NHL lottery teams have projection protections where most a lottery team can slide down is three spots from their projections. We saw this this with Colorado twice in a row, where they placed 4th in the draft lottery after tanking in 2017, and once again after stealing Ottawa’s pick for Matt Duchene.
Imagine being a Senators fan. You can't even win at cheating lol
I’m a Sens fan. They are the hockey team equivalent of a crack dealer who calls the cops to say his stash got stolen.
@@mikepuppetz9 My team either makes me drown in the Delaware or in cheese whiz. Either has happened at least once in my lifetime with the existence of Sidney Crosby
@@mikepuppetz9 Melnyk is cheap enough that I can buy that actually happening. Maybe not necessarily crack per se but still.
Sens did win in one thing though, drafting an all-time bust.
@@taskdon769 you know what the sens won, an ECF banner
A better cheating moment for the Penguins was in a 2010 game vs the Flyers: A Penguins TV producer intentionally did not show the conclusive angle of a goal crossing the line for a Flyers goal until the goal was waved off. Then it was shown after play was resumed and could not be overturned. The producer was fired afterwards.
Found an article on it: nypost.com/2010/01/17/penguins-case-may-lead-to-more-video-high-jinks/
I assume that influenced the way reviews are handled today in the Toronto command center, with League authorities being able to see all angles.
@@BenjaminKassel it definitely did
Having not gotten into hockey until it was all toronto and the tv had less angles until after review this sounds absurd
It’s the flyers though, so is it really cheating? They don’t deserve rights so I’m torn.
For the Canucks: what about Cory Schneider walking in on his girlfriend cheating on him with Ryan Kesler, leading them both to be traded away from the team?
Goes to show, these bitches can have it all & still cheat lmao
karl G yea but Kesler is still a bitch
Tyler Seguin was banging Nathan Horton's wife. Bruins management was tired of babysitting Seguin so traded him, hoping to keep Horton who was a free agent only to watch him sign with Columbus to get a fresh start for his family and trollup of a wife. Also, Brendan Shanahan stole Craig Janney's wife while they were linemates on the Blues, causing Shanahan to get traded to Hartford for Chris Pronger
Mark Berrett not just that, but Shanny telling Janney in the locker room after a game or practice that he was Fucking his wife leaving Craig weeping in his locker goes down as one of the most fucked up things ever
Ok if you want to go there. How about Jeff brown on Kirk McLean’s wife.
The Sedin’s one was nowhere near cheating. The refs just couldn’t tell them apart and they didn’t argue.
I thought buffalo would be the story of the Taro Tsujumoto draft pick
Same, although they didn't get anything out of drafting him. It was more a statement that the draft was ridiculously long at the time
Me too! But yeah Mogilny was an amazing story.
Or how they had a crook for an owner who got sent to prison, along with his son
I came here to say this, lmao
Honorable mention: The Sabres once drafted a fake player from Japan in 1974. Their GM was feeling impatient so he decided to create a player. Since international scouting was borderline nonexistent, no one questioned it when the Sabres selected Taro Tsujimoto. It's a really interesting story
I don’t get it? Why would he waste a draft pick on a fake player?
@@FatLikeKessel it was a late round pick and was used to protest how long the draft took at that time
It doesn't matter anyway. Japan sucks at hockey.
@@aaronwilcox2431 At the time no one knew that. And for what it's worth, their women's team is decent. There's also a young player named Aito Iguchi from there who moved to Canada to train and he's been pretty good so far. If he makes it to the show, the sport could blow up there.
How are some of these considered “cheating”, some of them are just a black eye on a franchise
"Lie" and "Cheat." The two words constantly used by people who have no idea what the definitions are. Honorable mentions: "Racist" and "Notoriety."
I think scandal would be a more accurate term to use even tho some are too mild to be considered that
Exactly! Wanting to murder your dad totally would have won the blues the cup that year if he didn’t get caught!!!
Cheating isn’t a consistent among most teams. He was doing the best with what he was given.
Isaiah Wince you’re right! Not every team has to have a cheating aspect in their history. But I do still feel like the title could have involved scandals as well as cheating or something of the like. I do appreciate your civil and level headed response though. Thank you!
The Flames most cheatingest moment is when Dion Phaneuf stole Sean Avery’s girl.
He wanted those sloppy seconds 😂😂
Who was it on the leafs that banged phaneufs wife
karl G no phaneuf dated Sean averys ex
@@ildibaba11 Everyone was banging Sean Averys X. I even banged her a few times. No big deal, everyone does it.
Guy Am I hahahaha😂😂
"Sports and hockey." Alright
Seymour Butts that’s because hockey is above the rest
Seymour Butts lol I didn’t notice that
It's not a "sport" it's a lifestyle
Trying to hit the word count on an essay
Seriously.
"Apparently it's too violent" lol. Something tells me that TH-cam sent you a strongly-worded message about their bullshit rules.
When you get suspended 23 seasons because of a PRESEASON game. Why would you fight like that over a meaningless game?
Games or seasons?
Games
Where is the manscaped ad???
Hey Roger Nielson’s stuff wasn’t cheating, it was just taking advantage of gaps in the rules.
Eddie Guerrero said it best..
Bouncy boards at the Joe Louis was a myth, debunked in the demolition and liquidation of arena property.
The Red Wings also did tremendous questionable activities to get Sergei Fedorov, Vladimir Konstantinov, and Slava Kozlov from the Soviets, and New Jersey and Vancouver did a lot to get Slava Fetisov and Igor Larionov, respectively! The Russian Five by Keith Gave (a key player in the Wings' plots) describes sneaking them out of hotels after games in FInland and the US, supplying Russian contacts with bribe money with no questions asked, and even providing Soviet military and civilian doctors with new cars in order to declare Slava Kozlov's career over after a car crash and release him from his military obligations! It's a tremendous book. The author was chosen by the President of the Wings personally to go contact Fedorov and Konstantinov in Finland because "you're the only guy I know who speaks Russian," having served in West Berlin as a Russian linguist with the US military in the 70s!
Should be the Seattle Grunge with their mascot Grohl the Drummer
Seattle seismic shox
Mudhoneys?
Melvins?
X men
@hangtime 7190 heh heh, the crowd, after a goal, can chant " o.d. o.d."
The Mogilny incident is similar to what the Red Wings did with Sergei Fedorov. Fedorov was with CSKA Moscow in Portland for the Goodwill games. After a pre-game he was the last off the bus, met up with a Wings representative before anyone noticed he was gone, was led out the back door of the hotel to a Limo, driven to an airport, put into a private jet, and flown to Detroit.
It's also like The Quebec Nordiques did to get both Anton and Peter Stastny
We got three players out of Russia in one year lmao
@@Adri_Unsung This is how we won the Cold War
"I believe it was a straw."
Edmonton's cheatingest moment was when Connor McDavid stole Morgan Reilly's legs in the middle of a game
Roger Neilson was really a genius, he found every loophole in the book
My boss at the pizza place I work at lived around the corner from where Mogiliny was staying in Buffalo and there were FBI all over the place for days and would only allow residents of the street to enter. He also delivered a pizza to his house when Mogiliny's butler dude asked him to go from then beer which he used his fake to do and got tipped a shit ton (Mogiliny was an 18 y/o rookie at that time)
Although what got Peters cancelled was the allegation of him using a slur to describe the music being played
Don’t forget McSorley trying to play with an illegal stick in the 1993 Cup finals against my Montreal Canadiens
How can that NOT be the Kings' cheatingest moment?!!!!!
Matt Cairns Apparently a lot of guys played with illegal curves in that era but it was kind of an unwritten rule not to call the other team out for it which is why McSorely even attempted to use it.
@@beertron7 That's why I always tell Kings fans that they shouldn't be mad at McSorely. I guarantee he wasn't the only player on the ice with an illegal stick at the time.
The Red wings got Federov to defect
McSorley didnt hit Brashear in the face with his stick, he hit him from behind on top of his head. Pretty awful considering brashear's head bounced off the ice when he fell.
Just wait for Houston to get a team
Ryan Oh no that wouldn’t work.
It would help Dallas, who really doesn't have any real rivals.
At least my Wild haven't really ever cheated 🤷♂️
...or gotten caught cheating yet! 👍🏼
Yup... tossing a stick like that such a hugeeeeeeee deal according to the creator of this video.
i thought that too, all that minnesota nice is spreading into our favorite sport
Tossing the stick isnt illegal. And no you dont have to get the stick or go to the bench. Absolutely wrong.
Sniffing a sports enhancing “stimulant” up your nose wouldn’t go over in Rodger Goodell’s league.
@Nomma Rillnaim ask anyone who fought Bob Probert....or Brian Mcgrattan..or just about any fighter in the NHL! That comment was dumber than this entire video..i didnt think it was possible..you need to try cocaine then play any sport and recognize youre better at whatever sport it is you are playing...dumbass
@Nomma Rillnaim and what professional sport have you played? oh right none.. that makes ONE of us..who is worth how much..peasant...
Nomma Rillnaim have you ever fought a man on cocaine and who snorts a gram between periods? I have. You don’t have a clue what that does to a man’s abilities. IT KOST CERTAINLY IS PERFORMANCE ENHANCING. Anyone who argues is the retard....who’s arguing by the way?
3:30 Adding insult to injury for Kings fans, San Jose won in a shootout. I think LA got the last laugh, though, winning the Stanley Cup for the first time.
As a Sharks fan I just KNEW it was gonna be the Ryan Clowe incident and not the "Hand pass" from last season.
and you got it right.
For the wild one with the stick flipping other players and teams have done it multiple times and they don’t get called for it
The Red Wings also participated in something like the sabres. They snuck Sergei Federov away from the Russian team when they were playing in the US (or Canada, not sure which)
Lmao he said “1969, nice” right after that clock read “4:20”
Hell yeah, stars didn’t cheat. I don’t watch much hockey, but Dallas is my team, and it’s nice to see my team not cheat
So what I gathered from this is that Buffalo will be drafting a player from North Korea to give Eichel some support
I figured the Canucks moment would be Todd Bertuzzi sucker punching Steve Moore.
That was beyond "cheating". It was straight up assault. Sickening,to this day. What happened to Naslund three weeks earlier didn't warrant that reaction from Bertuzzi. Someone should have fought Moore in Vancouver at the start of the game and settled it,not being passive-agressive cowards,waiting for the opportunity to assault a vulnerable player. If Moore was ducking out,then one hard hit would've sent a message (and if not on Moore,hitting a star player on the Avs,which would have forced Moore to fight)not ending someone's career. No respect for something like that,and no apology makes up for it.
I don't care what anyone says, the Avery play on Brodeur was genius. It was NOT against any current rule (just like all the Neilsen antics) and it distracted/pissed off Marty to no end.
A lot of this wasn't even cheating. Most of it was "this team did X causing a rule to be put in place"
That's not cheating, that's just knowing the rulebook better than anyone else.
How are half of these even cheating. The person that made this was reaching so much with half of them.
Can’t say I’m surprised that Minnesota’s most cheating moment is one guy helping out his teammate 😂
What about the Blackhawks winning three cups by being over the salary cap? That's the most cheetingest thing in league history
Some things I'd add:
Red Wings: Norris ownership of multiple teams simultaneously
Penguins: Tanking for Lemiejx
Sabres: Taro Tsujimoto
Thank you FPV!!! Love your videos, especially the hockey (however rare) ones!!!
"Does stealing a whole franchise count?" Yes. Yes it does. After we lost the Thrashers, I stopped watching the NHL until Vegas joined the league. I still wear my Thrashers Hoodie all the time.
Cheating to me means three things: New England Patriots, Houston Astros, and relationship cheating
Awww Houston we were once so proud
I thought you would say for the Pittsburgh Penguins that they intentionally tanked for Mario LeMieux, the awful play in the early 2000's that netted Marc-Andre Fleury and Yevgeni Malkin, or how the "Crosby Sweepstakes" may have been rigged so Pittsburgh would avoid another move threat.
Back in 1974, Sabres GM Punch Imlach was getting frustrated with how slow that year's amateur draft was taking. So, he decided to use one of the team's later picks to select Japanese import player Taro Tsujimoto. Sounded like a great pickup, until Imlach eventually revealed to the NHL that Tsujimoto didn't actually exist. The league wasn't too happy about it to say the least.
As a huge fan of the game, I love to see you do hockey videos. As a Senators fan, I never thought in a million years I would see that Spezza reference in any of your videos haha. That thing was hilarious. Dude lines up for the face off, hears players on the other team questioning his curve so he backs up and stomps on the blade of his sticking breaking it and tries to hand it off to the trainer for a new one like it’s no big deal. While the ref is like “Nah nah nah, not gonna happen” 🤣 also #Melnykout
No one show Parros this vid
“ Every NCAA FBS Teams biggest cheating moments”😂 that’d be like 6 Parts😂
Senators: ranked least cheatingest with an illegal stick
Wild: ranked higher on the list for a cool stick flip
Hold on did you just say only buffalo messed with Russian players during the Cold War did you not watch the Russian five?
Peters wasn’t canceled, he went to a team in Russia. When the team’s leading scorer found out, he left the team
The leading scorer is Black, thats probably why he left (good ol racist Peters)
@@pandaqc6237 Was said scorer, by any chance, Nigel Dawes?
@@JaredtheRabbit exactly. Beast in the KHL, never did anything in North America
Dude, the wings smuggled out Fedorov, Konstantinov, and Kozlov from Russia. Buffalo isn’t the only team to do it.
They straight up bribed Russian doctors to fake cancer for Vladdy to get him out of the army lmao
When you started talking about Roger Nielsen antics with annoyance I was wondering how long it would take you to start enjoying them
The worst cheating is when Minecraft TH-camrs do mining off camera
IMHO, the Gretzky trade in 1988 was a win-win for both the Kings and the Oilers as well as the league in general. Gretzky turned the Kings into the hottest ticket in Los Angeles and in 1990, the Oilers proved they could win a Stanley Cup without Gretzky. Plus, thanks to Gretzky's presence in Los Angeles, the NHL added or relocated teams in San Jose, Anaheim, Tampa Bay, Miami, Dallas, Phoenix, Raleigh, Nashville and Vegas. (Although the NHL added a team in Atlanta, they relocated to Winnipeg.)
Usually I don’t like videos with some dude talkin but this vid is gold!
NHL video. I click, like, and share
I feel you have a poor definition as to what cheating actually is.
Love when ya do hockey videos!
Bonus points for calling out bogus COVID counts!
The stick flip by Fiala made the whole video worth watching
Me: (Sees Sabres #1) Taro?
Fivepointvids: No, communism
Jets should be with when a jets player throws the puck into the net to win in OT
Funny think about the sharks one is that was the final game of the season, they beat the kings which made the kings the 8th seed in 2012. Why is that funny? Because the kings ended up playing the president trophy winners and let’s just say the momentum carried them to the CUP. I could not be happier that the sharks got away with that and won that game. GKG!
So basically, as they'd call it in Quebec City, Buffalo pulled a Stastny, although they only brought one player on the other side of the curtain
‘Damn Buffalo had to go all Mission Impossible just too get some goals’ dying
Billy Tibbetts lives in my town but he got arrested for having cocaine
As a die hard canucks fan who’s favourite player of all time is Pavel Bure. The Canucks cheated to get him. He wasn’t draft eligible the year he was drafted due to everyone thinking he hadn’t played enough games. Well somehow the Canucks management (bless Pat Quinn and co) found some extra game sheets with Bure’s name on the bottom.
Kings one should've been Gretzky's high stick against the Leafs.
On the Avery rule. No one scored while he was in front of Marty. Meaning it didn't work. He did score later. But he wasn't in front of Marty distracting him when he did it.
How can you mention Mogilny without talking about the Stastny being smuggled out of Czechoslovakia by the Quebec Nordiques?
tobin l beach or anything about the Russian five
Oh, nice (not sarcastic). Although I'm not a HUGE hockey fan, I'm definitely more into hockey than pretty much any other sport. And there's this whole thing over whether hockey is a "major" sport in the US. I found this channel through a bunch of NFL videos, so it's kinda affirming to also see NHL videos here.
Other teams: Illegal plays, peds, murder
Flyers: BIG PADS ON GOALIES!
Kinda shocked we didn't get called out for our Broadstreet Bullies days when we murdered entire teams like we were still in the trenches.
@@mistertaz94 Well that wasn't illegal. It was just frowned upon
Mogilny coming over wasn't the only crazy one. The stories of the red wings getting Sergei fedorov and vlad konstantinov aren't as crazy, but they're pretty good
Now Gordie Dwyer is a ref that I'm 99%sure is gambling on the NHL
horror/thriller author sez: Buffalo's acquisition of Mogilny rocks! May every team "cheat" so well!
Missed opportunity on the capitals moment. Being around all that white powder and lines all the time definitely could give a man ideas
Scotty Bowman painting the locker room was hilarious to hear about as a kid. I’m still surprised their pick for the wings wasn’t the drafting and sneaking Frederov and Kozlov our of Russia so they could defect. They even bribed doctors in Russia to claim Konstantinov had an inoperable brain tumor!
For Vancouver: in 1981 the Jets and Rockies, because they were so bad, were allowed a special Czechoslovakian draft of Jiri Bubla and Ivan Hlinka. The Canucks signed them out from under their noses. Ultimately the Canucks were allowed to keep them but had to compensate Winnipeg and Colorado.
I went to school with Mike Danton's girlfriend, and the FBI agent that arrested Danton was my brother's hockey coach here in STL so yeah, I know lots of juicy stuff about this whole saga.....
Holy crap the Blues had a player who plotted murder on his father did not see that coming
Though he got caught when he was on the Blues, it seems odd to make this Blues-related. The guy had 14 points his entire NHL career and only played something like 70 games total. The crazier thing about Danton is that after he was released from prison, a university in Canada let him play on their team in his 30s.
For the Penguins: in the last minute of a 6-6 game against Hartford in December 1993, Jaromir Jagr gets popped for an illegal stick by Whalers coach Pierre McGuire; not only do the Whalers fail to score on the power play, but the moment Jagr gets out of the box he gets sprung on a breakaway and scores the OT winner. At the time Jagr called it the biggest goal of his life because he "humbled that know-it-all" McGuire.
I don't see where's the cheat?
@@getzbeamed5795 - He was penalised for using an illegal stick.
@@mcj88 Yeah and...
That MN Wild one should be legal. If you can somehow give your own teammate your stick by flipping it to them without it making contact with other teams players, it should be fine. If the goaltender were to lose his stick, are you not obligated to get it back to them?
Never been more proud to be a wild fan
*Dallas Stars' cheating*
Nope. Can't think of anything at aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall...
if only I had followed hockey closely at the tender age of 4...
th-cam.com/video/vF_LRVuhNa4/w-d-xo.html
I knew it. You were gonna do the Stars dirty like that. Kicking the puck from his skate to his stick counts as possession of it, making it legal withing the wording of the rule. I know you had to do it. but damn it.
I mean... we made up an entire player to fuck with the NHL. Stealing Mogiliny was just a bonus
If you've loved the Mogilny story, check out the Stastny brother from the Quebec Nordiques and Marcel Aubut. They escaped during a game, faking having going to toilets and they brought them in Quebec illegaly !
The Red Wings were the one's who shortened the bench, not the Avs, and the Wings also did the same thing with Fedorov that the Sabres did for Mogilny
You must have had so many options for anaheim
Rank all the CIS Teams’ stadiums (Canadian University football!!!)
11:30. Wait, do they let random homeless people run the Oilers? That actually makes so much sense...
The Nordiques/Avalanche franchise took Peter and Anton Stastny from their club in Austria to the Canadian Ambassy to bring them to N.A.
No Islanders off-sides to win a cup?
not really their fault
@@pilbus4644 No one said it was their fault. Part of the definition of cheat is "avoid (something undesirable) by luck or skill".
If ya want to be technical about it tho the Bruins didnt cheat when Mcsorley swung for the fences with Brashers skull. Tibbetts was a convicted POS and Bill Peters is apparently a racist but thats not cheating. Mike Danton tried to have a murder for hire, not sure what kind of cheating that would be. Both Avery and Garth Snow didnt cheat since there wasnt a rule put in til after they did it. Brett Hull didnt put his skate in the crease with the purpose of cheating, refs missed it very similar to a Isles offsides. LA didnt cheat the Oilers out of Gretzky. Or just enjoy it as a youtube topic
Is the Avery one really cheating since it wasn’t illegal? Same as the coach with the defender penalty shot because it wasn’t technically illegal at the time
I see what you mean but I guess i can see it both ways. Shitting in front of the goal line(or anywhere on the ice) isnt mentioned in the rules but I would bet if a player did it, he would get a penalty right before he was arrested. I have no idea if shitting on the ice is considered cheating or not tho?
Yes but that doesn’t give a team any advantage