New Milwaukee M18 FUEL Framing Nailers SWAPPING MAGAZINES
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- New Milwaukee M18 FUEL Framing Nailers SWAPPING MAGAZINES! In this video we answer some questions about the new Milwaukee M18 FUEL 21 and 30 degree nailers for the #verycoolgang! Lots of people have been asking and saying that the two new framing nailers from Milwaukee tool have interchangeable parts and you can swap their magazines. We put this to the test by swapping magazines on the framing nailers to see if it is possible. If you can swap the magazines back and forth, could you just buy one nailer body and use different types of nails? Let us know your thoughts on these new Milwaukee M18 FUEL framing nailers in the comments section below.
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Not everyone can pull a video off like this one. I think you guys nailed it!
Great tool video👍 we have recently switched to these nailers and they are awesome! A lot of my crew uses the DeWalt finish nailers but not the DeWalt framing nailer! These tools are truly changing the industry especially since I started building over 40 years ago!
Used mine in the last couple weeks to rebuild my fence (30 degree with ring shank nails). Almost took it back thinkin' why did I spend this much...used it, loved it, never looked back!
Daniel berkey has a video that shows you can use both 21% or 30% with just a simlpe mod both guns are exactly the same It's official I have the 21ﾟ framing nailer extend capacity bought the 30ﾟ extended capacity magazine did the mod was very simple now one gun can fire different degree angle nails Same exact gun
I was bummed out and thought the conversion only worked on the 30’degree nailer with a new 21 degree mag. Were you successful putting the 30 degree on the 21 nail gun? Please share how you did this.
Everyone speaks of how annoying the plastic bits are but I don’t see it being an annoyance. Haven’t put the nail gun to use but will help rebuild my fence once the weather warms up. That would be the only reason I put on the 30 degree for less cleanup.
Thanks so much for putting together this video I was just about to buy one of these nailers as I own the 18 gauge and that impressed me I was wondering if the mags would be compatible with each other thanks for the answering this as it's been bugging me . . Keep up the great work Vince 💯👍💪💬
Another Sweet Video Brother!!! I hope you all have a Wonderful Sunday! 🤠👍🇺🇸🇨🇦🙏
Man! That's really quiet too! I love it. I'll be buying one as I get more fence projects. Thanks for the review!
I used a bench grinder to file down an extended 21 deg magazine so that it would fit my 30 deg nailer. Works perfectly
Bye bye warranty!
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@@zeroedmiters I don't see how grinding down a nub on an after market 21° magazine would have any bearing on the warranty of his 31° nailer.
@@zeroedmiters Warranty isn't an issue because you aren't modifying the nailer at all. You are modifying the magazine. Got a warranty issue? Just swap back to the original unmodified magazine
Thanks for the video Vince. Hopefully they will have a sale Black Friday on them maybe free extended magazine would be nice. So far looking at 900 for both.
Great video Vince..thanks for the answer we were waiting for
Yes! You can interchange mags between 21 and 30. Just make a tiny adjustment at couple points and it fits perfect. Find a youtube vid that gives details.
Good luck to anyone who needs to make a warranty claim. You'll end up spending the same amount in the end.
Is it safe to do so?
@@zeroedmiters You only need to modify the other magazine. If you get into a warranty claim then just swap the magazines back out to the original that didn't need modified...
Ur modifying the magazine not the gun
I tried going from 21 to 30 and I was shooting 2 nails at once. So it didn't work
Somehow I always click on like these videos before I even start watching them cause I know they will be good!
Great video demo cuz! Well informative.
Keep up the good work! Have a great Sunday! 👍🧰👍😍
Great video Vince. To your question, YES I would love a cordless roofing nailer from Milwaukee. It would be great for fencing.
Also, you are correct, the HO3.0 battery makes the gun lighter but doesn’t seem to add performance. However, that battery did 27 feet of fence and fired 300+ nails and still had juice left. Also, it was 97 degrees that day.
Why use nails on a fence instead of screws?
Jeremiah Mckenna Screws are superior but it’s more about speed. Using nail guns is simply faster. Plus in my experience here where I live, the fasteners are rarely the reason a fence fails. It is almost always the posts rotting or the supports being beaten down by the sun and rain. I do use screws still for certain situations, but generally all nails now.
@@zlspille05 I've always used screws for pickets, and various bolts for horse/ranch areas. Around here, in the South, be it Texas, Louisiana, to Florida, the fences that are nailed always tend to have the nail heads back out. Maybe it is because of the moisture and the wood drying out and getting damp again.
As far as speed, I use the collated strips.
My 20v 30° started to jam, I replaced the driver and springs, then found the dewalt 21° magazine on ebay that came with a tapered offset metal piece that goes under the nose then similar to milwaukee the hole in the 21° magazine is farther back. It fits perfect on the 20v 30° nailer and it burries 3 1/2" ring shank nails into anything all day! Dewalts nailer bodys are identical. The 30° mag will fit the 21° nailer without the offset nose piece tho. I took a look at my 20v roofer and 20v metal connector nailer, the roofers completely different but it may be possible to modify the metal connector magazine and pos placement nose piece
Thanks for this video! Great timing!
Thanks for the video brother 👊. Like button has been smashed. I may pick one of these nailers up and give it a try
Thanks Brandon we appreciate it!!
Happy Sunday! Nice 😊
I'd be interested in a nibbler along with the double sheer as a set.
yes you can use 21 and 30 degree on 1 gun just shave off little bit of tab on magazine it will fit into slot just fine.
Great video. The 21 deg shoots round head nails the 30 shoots clipped nails. Have to check building codes to see if clipped are allowed. I just got the 21, the project requires round head nails. The 30 will be in the box soon. My Senco SN325 is going into semi retirement. Lol
They have full heads for 30deg as well. Paslode is one of the manufacturers that has them.
It has video game sound effects! I love it!
That would be awesome to have a cordless roof nailer
Got the 21 degree a month ago... used off and on for a few weeks. Easily replaced my pneumatic nailer. Starting a framing project next week and plan to use it exclusively. Can’t wait to use it bracing trusses. Milwaukee M18 = Freedom
How has the gun lasted after 2 years?
@@Mantis858585
It’s been awesome. Only complaint is the weight. Zero problems and it’s even found itself falling from the second story. You’ll have to get the mag extension too. The flexibility of no cords well makes up for bulkiness of it.
It also looks like the screw hole is further foreword on of them in relation to the handle, but anyways since it doesn't work do u have any speculation as to what it is there for
Great video, but have you made a video explaining the reasons for the different angles? If not, would you?
I'd definitely get the coil roofing nailer if they make one
Love my 21 degree 2744-20. I ordered the mag extension it should have been standard. And the useless tiny magazine should be an option that would probably never sell. I took the belt clip off since I like to shoot the gun with my thumb in some places and it was in the way. It's my standard nailer now
When are we getting a battery powered portable welder ,watching from ireland love these videos Vince knows his shit
Fronius makes one. Big bucks but if you need cordless, priceless!
Thanks Vince, great stuff as always!
@@kfouts2 thanks
Miller also carries one but like the previous reply big bucks and batteries don't last to l long ive used them in pipe trade
Will a 30 degree clip fit the 21 degree I just bought?
Next version should have the roofing magazine fit the power head, and every other magazine. I just use mine to nail blocks on to get my electrical boxes centered.
What difference between angle and straight nailer?? Which better??
I just bought the 21 degree, can i make a 30 degree mag fit it? I’ve only ever seen people make a 21 mag fit the 30 nailer
Good video so you tried 30 degrees magazine on 21 degrees gun. have you try 21 degree magazine on 30 degrees gun? Thanks
I was wondering that you might not be able to have did that also because is it one shoot roundhead and 1 shoots clip head
Anyone know when the 21° nailer is coming out in the uk?
I will beg them to do that, as you said weight will be key
As a fencing contractor I use 2.5-2.8/50mm nails, yet only 2 coil nailer battery on the market, crazy
So we learned the 21 degree doesn't fit the 30 degree extended but what about the 30 degree, does it fit the extended 21 degree
I love them I have the DeWalt battery operated finisher and I own so many air compressors framing guns Roofing guns it's so hard to want to spend and money for new guns maybe as they break I might purchase new battery operated guns but for now I'm sticking with my air guns
Makes sense! 👍🏻
@@VCGConstruction hay brother hope you and your family and the VCG gang family are having a great day and staying safe have a good day
You as well my friend!
At least you can get the cordless compressor to start your Milwaukee/battery platform.
@vcg hey guys can’t wait to see how this holds up.
I'm hoping for a review of the milwaukee right angle impact wrench. I bought one 2 days ago and want to know how it is for you guys
How is it working out for you?
Don't know yet.. just found out about this tool. But I believe the way they achieved it without gas is using super capacitors.
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Go Vince
Good video, Vin.
Thanks Larry, we appreciate it! 👍🏻
Whats up Vince, love the channel. So I'm going cordless on my job site. I purchased a dewalt 20v 30° framing gun. After only 5 boxes of nails it stopped driving nails. Took it back to HD & picked up another dewalt. Ive shot like 3 boxes thru it & really like the gun. I also picked up the Milwaukee framing gun. After about a 10 racks of nails I absolutely love the gun. So far hands dwn its a much better gun. Is the problem with the dewalt pretty common & how can I avoid it. Thanks
Maybe you just got a lemon (which can happen) with the first DeWalt! Hopefully you’ll have better luck with the second, keep us posted! 👍🏻
Hopefully the 2nd dewalt lives up to its name. I'm really digging the Milwaukee. Its the 1st red tool ive owned. To bad you cant try them all before you drop the $ on them
There is a way to do it but you have to to file down the notches for it to fit
Perfectly explained, Great video guys 👊
Whoever thought that. Come on man its 2020 and they are in business to make money. If they made it interchangeable they would advertise it and charge you four times more for it.
It's go to Daniel Berkey Simple mod and you can use 21ﾟ or 30ﾟ the guns are exactly the same
Mines a 21° And I 😍 mine I’m probably one original people to ask you to see if the magazines are interchangeable guess what I found out my answer so now I know I can’t buy a 30° magazine for my 21°😭. A.k.a. Crazy mike
You actually can use 30 on a 21 minor mod
@@brianvanheck3133 how?
I don't know either to choose craftsman, Milwaukee, Ryobi, DeWalt, Porter Cable or Bostitch cordless nailer, which should I choose??
10% more than what you can afford.
YES
SDS Hammers?
Will these shoot 8's?
I WOULD ABESLOUT LOOK FORWARD TO CORDLESS ROOFING NAILER IN FACT IM ALREADY ARE Millwauke is comming out with it at some point cuz in start of this year they search patent on a battry powered roofing nailer just when it comes and when i does im flying out to get it for sure
Could someone explain why there are 30 and 21 degree nailers. What are the advantages-disadvantages of each?
That’s what I need to know as well
The difference is what the nails are being held together with, the geographical location, so building code of area, and also depending on degree the angle at which you can put a nail in.
@@ForgedWithinFlame The 30 degree must be better for to nailing. But isn't one only capable of firing clipped heads?
DeWalt has made the coil roofing nailer. Milwaukee should make a better one. Yes it has function there's even an adapter on it for doing vinyl siding where a cordless would really come in handy
I would 100% buy a milwaukee m18 battery coil nailer
I would most definitely use it bro,I need it ; don’t want to use dewalt🥺!!!!
Can you do a video explaining regional preferences of 21 vs 30? I am not finding much info on it :(
@h2s that's easily known. Which regions?
paslode makes full round nails in 30.
I would like to become a member brutha!!!! How do I go about doing that? Please let me know, I’m down with the #VeryCoolGang family!!!!
22 to 30 swappable is a smart move. They can sell the magazine swap kit and it will take market share from the other guys. Think big picture!
Nice
CONGRATS TO VCG ON 275,000 SUBSCRIBERS !!! 👍👍
Thanks King of the Crease, we appreciate it!
Haven’t tried that framing nailer yet but I want to! And it can hold two racks of nails is the extender right? See you on the next one SMASH THE LIKE BUTTON!!
An when I say clip I mean the locking part that slides the nails up
Nice editing. At first, you only had one mag. And suddenly you have 2. 😮
💥💥 Great video. What about having to send the Milwaukee out every year to have the internal air cylinder recharged.?? Seems costly and quite an inconvenience being without the gun and having to ship it out. 🤟🏼
It shouldn’t be being charged. If the nitrogen is having to be charged than you have a bad nailer. They suppose to be completely maintenance free.
@@rileycoble5842 Thanks for the reply but it doesn’t have me feeling that it’s going to hold up long term.
Good to know you have to buy both tools and both extended mags appreciate the info that the magazines are not interchangeable vince @Vcgconstruction
They are with ten minutes of modification of the new magazine. I did it and it works like normal.
@@jfarrar231 okay well I don't modify my tools glad it worked for you just not for me
Modification will guarantee a VOID for the warranty!
@@VCGConstruction you only modify the magazine. Not the gun itself.
@@jfarrar231 it still voids the warranty
Best youtube tools channel on youtube also dewalt win ok bye 😂
From my engineering mind it truly looks like they are the same power unit. It looks like you would need to change out the connecting head to the 30° and then the associated magazine would work.
I agree
Yes, that's correct. I've had the dewalt 30° cordless framer for years, its still a beast. Just recently picked up the 21° dewalt magazine that has a separate offset piece that goes under the nose. The screw is farther back on the 21° magazine and it fits perfectly on the 30° dcn693 nailer. I believe its backwards compatible. Dewalts 30° mag can fit the 21° gun but no offset piece is needed now. Its fired 3 1/2 nails flawlessly as fast as pneumatic for about 6 months now, no jams yet!
Maybe you could do a video on what it would take to swap them out. Either 21° to 30° or vice versa.
That may have been why Milwaukee kept delaying the release. I think they truly tried to make it interchangeable
They definitely wanted you to buy 2 different guns but there is a simple mod to use tueni degree or 30ﾟ the guns are exactly
Could you do Milwaukee’s Brad nailer
I love the 30 degree framer woulda been nice to be able to put a 21 degree mag on it but they didn’t and i just won’t ever buy the 21. Great video
Great video Vince @vcgconstruction
Rigid High Torque Impact? 🥺👉👈
Rigid 🤮
I have a question, I'm not too much into framing nailers, but I'm very interested in purchasing one. I have upcoming projects and I feel it's better using a framing nailer than actually using a hammer and nails for fear of splitting the wood.... My question is which is better, a 21 degree or a 30 degree nailer? Thanks for anyone's help.
There is no difference. The difference comes to one of the degrees can hold more nails but the main thing is, the 21 degree is meant for more wet climates because the nails are put together with plastic instead of paper. Paper draws moisture and makes it fall apart.
@@rileycoble5842 thank you for the input, really appreciate it.
I favor paper nails. 30 degree.
I see lots of complaints about this. Read up on profit, and why it's vital to our existence. Support the brand. Buy them both if you want both.
@VCG. Vince you know Milwaukee is good. BUT you know Hikoki M-hpt is just as good or even better. 🤔🤣 another awesome vid Cuz. ✌🏾🔔🤙🏾🙇🏾♂️💚's⚡🔥⚡
Guess there is the official answer for us @Aepek. Bummer
To be honest if i dial it all the way out i would want all the nails to be proud, when i'm laying plywood i would rather have a little hammer work than nails driven to the stud.
Maybe the non marring tip would act as a spacer and drive nails proud
We need a coil nailer
I'm thinking this is my next purchase.... Love the Milwaukee platform... SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON!!!! GET 7yrs GOOD LUCK.... It won't hurt your fingers 🤣🤣🤣
Dats right!!
You are annoyingly entertaining but in a good way, if that makes sense 🤣 Good information in a dramatic presentation.
yes i would like to see a M18 cordless roofing coil nailer
They should have made it fit...dang
Either way, they're a business, and need profit to make more awesome tools. Support the brand by buying. The less we buy, the less they make, and then quality goes downhill.
I've scanned 7 barcodes and yet to win anything :(
Dats yy they never came out the same time. Lol
No more free tools for you Vince
Would have been nice if the mags were interchangeable.
I'll stick with my Hitachi NR83A2 guns because they're monsters 💪 cordless guns just can't compete for real framing.
So, bottom line is NO they are not interchangeable. 😉
Tiz bullshit just like the extended mag holder should have come with that one an if u wanted smaller u buy the cheaper one wtf 700 plus cantanian dollhairs
I won’t argue!
that just sucks... they did it on purpose. no way you can be that good at engineering the most powerful framing nailer and not be able to do 21 and 30 with the same gun
I bought two of these. All the nails jammed in both guns 100% of the time. I got
ripped off! Home Depot would not exchange them nor refund my money. Milwaukee
couldn't care less. I'm supposed to mail them to Milwaukee and start and endless process
hoping to get a working nail gun. I got royally ripped off
Dewalt nails are the problem
That's dumb. Home Depot takes returns. They'll take pretty much anything, and up to 3 months. With a receipt you get your money back. Without, you get store credit. I even returned a product that I didn't even purchase from home depot and got store credit for it. You did something wrong if they won't take a return. My experience with a replacement from Milwaukee has been outstanding, so it's not them either. It's all on you.
I bought 21 Weight to heavy 👎🏾
What's the point? The damn thing overheats if you run 2 slides of nails through it.