Wow, you could be my double, read the same books, same PT, mine started this past janurary after a UTI. Online CPPS courses, PT, meditation etc etc etc then I found Dan, gave up all PT, stretching, meditation etc, started riding my bike every day which consists of about 2 hours of heavy training, weight lifting daily and talking to my brain, listening to success stories and then the pain reversed, I started having more days with out pain then with. It’s, now most of my days are pain free. This last Friday though, left a job of 22years, staring a new one and my girl friend said she started seeing someone else. The Pain came back but very light and livable. Hopefully my recovery continues. I thought a broken heart is the worst pain, not until you’ve experienced pelvic pain. Hopefully one day I can live to laugh about it like everyone in these success stories.
You were fortunate to move over to a mind-body approach in such a short duration. What had you go that way? My story is similar just stretch it out to 1.5 yrs since that first UTI-like occurrence in April 2022. I moved over to a mind-body approach this February.
@@andrewfleming86 I’m farmiliar with TMS from 20 years ago, I used it to cure my back and shoulder pain from mountain biking and weight lifting which I still do daily without pain Once I got CPPS I started with the book reading on TMS again but wasn’t totally convinced it was TMS. But once every thing else failed it was the only thing that made sense. Then I found Dan and his TH-cam coaching and that was the trick I needed. much better than rereading the books because this is a difficult pain for me to get rid of. Once I said the hell with the pain and started aggressively training again the pain became much more controllable. Now I have most days without it before it was the other way around.
Yep your story is the same as mine did all the same things. Broke up with a long-term relationship because he didn’t want to be with anyone who had health problems I had more than pelvic pain going on interstitial cystitis autoimmune fibromyalgia, my families in Chicago I moved to California, I stayed with a friend didn’t have a computer just went and traveled to see as much of California as I could and most of my pain went away except for my TMJ and trigeminal neuralgia.Just started doing this two weeks ago I had stopped googling anything that had to do with illness and that was my bad because I didn’t realize all this good stuff was out there back in the 90s nothing was out there. Keep doing what you’re doing I had a guy friend who had the same thing had lots of tension with his girlfriend new baby etc. thank God you’re better and yes a broken heart is bad but Pelvic. pain is way worse
I’m dealing with chronic pelvic pain and I really appreciate this video. I like how it is also a teaching moment as you can see Tom was still dealing with some fear and uncertainty as we all do. Very helpful. ❤
My number one thing that stops all pain is stop resisting and chasing a cure. The second you chase a remedy is the moment the pain increases as you are resisting. Stop solving things and just allow your being to be. Be the space of awareness for the pain to be :)
when you feel pain do somatic tracking. When we’re in pain we tend to run from it, distract, have panic or anxiety which shows your pain it’s danger. If you do that opposite, go to the pain witness it (somatic tracking) this shows the brain oh, it’s not actually dangerous because we’re not running away. Talking to the brain is helpful too. No we’re safe. It’s ok We’re safe. What I’m doing right now is healing it’s healthy it’s safe etc
Tom, I know your pain, literally. Dan interviewed me on the same TMS expression. Pelvic pain is a special type of pain. Thanks for sharing your story. You will help people by sharing.
Tom-Thank you for sharing your story as it came at a much needed time for me. Dan's coaching about anxiety amping up as the pain goes way is just what I needed to hear. I have been making great strides on my journey to get pain free since I joined his group coaching calls but I have found that my anxiety has been going up in place of the pain. I have old traumas that are coming up due to new stressful events that are happening right now in my life. Knowing that all of this will pass brings me comfort and hope but hearing this interview about how anxiety is TMS really helped it sink into my brain that I am not broken and I don't have to be fixed. I am weaning myself off of my therapist (who was needed at the time I started with her but now seems like she just triggers more stuff each time I see her slowing my recovery down). The best therapy I am getting right now is from the Pain Free You group where I have a family that understands what I am going through and is there if I need them with love and no judgement. This was a great teaching tool for me-Thank you Dan and Tom! ♥
Yes, Anxiety is still the result of the brain being hyper-vigilant. But it's not a whole new problem. Safety is still the solution for anxiety as it is other symptoms or pain.
@@PainFreeYou Working on showing my brain that I am safe after all of these years is a challenge but I have the rest of my life to work towards that goal. I know I can do this as many before me have done it including you Dan. Thank you for being such an inspiration to us all. ❤
Dr. Howard Schubiner told me that l am trying too hard. I should just live life and not let my brain give me false signals of not being safe and in fear. 18 Plus years in pelvic pain. It's time for me to start living again.
If you're still experiencing symptoms - the daily videos are literally free coaching. Many are getting well just by implementing the concepts I share daily. You can too.
100% agree with the anxiety being a TMS "symptom" that replaces "pain". In this stage and I noticed it. Work in progress. Just been told I have a UTI and GP prescribed antibiotics. I have real issue with meds and allergies. I think my body has turned a corner re infection, so I'm gonna watch until at least the lab results confirm bacteria. Each to their own but I need to be in control of I'm not broken.
My grandma never took meds. With a uti she drank lots of water, ate cranberries and made herself fresh thyme- 🍵 tea. Thyme is a natural bacterie- killer. Maybe this helps you too! Take care!🤗🌻
Well done Tom. You are really far ahead in your journey. I know what you mean. Yes, things are not all gone, but there is so much more indifference and that's amazing. You are on your way! I also sit with my "things" 40 hours a week at a desk since 2,5 months since a longgggg time, and yes I also experience anxiety and it's far from funny but it's nothing to really worry about. Just f-it! Keep going man....great to see this!
just as i think I'm healing . I have it all over my body 😢 pelvic.. burning cramping Arm numbness.. muscle spasam... i need a change.when is it my turn.. today today. ...❤
@@PainFreeYou 100% trying.. it's truly awful waking up with new symptoms in a dark room... but I studied them.. they went from pelvic , to arm to hand to anus.. to breast to leg ! Exhausted lol.. and just flew from london to florida .. in the aim to get better and have time off. .work...for a week...and my body is trying other wise. As always it's only your voice at 3am that soothes!
When I had dry eyes the doctors wanted to seal the drains in the eye and that would have made it worse, trapping the allergies in the eye. Thank God I walked away. Proud of myself. I was 24. Pretty smart.
Dr sarno was my first, i went to him in 1991. My backpain went away fast, but suffered till i found Nicole Dec 2019. Yes, she explained this info in a way that finally clicked for me. I found Dan soon after. They were my go to'. Yes, all their styles different. I love Dan's message bc its so simple. Practicing indifference as he speaks about was also a huge clincher. And by the way, good for you on still playing hard ball. My husband stills plays on the same league (35 & over on LI, he's their catcher, 64 years old & still going strong against the youngins.)
Also Dan I do have a lot of worries, my son which I've mentioned before and also not being able to work at the moment and am wholly responsible for my home and the bills, so I worry about it all and all the what if's and what if I get sick and nobody here to take care of me. Feel so afraid and don't know if it's possible for me to get better here on my own. All the fears and worries driving pain and anxiety and insecurities of looking after myself. I don't know how to return to who I once was before all the stuff with my son.
I don't believe we have to fix our lives to get well. I got better in the middle of my marriage falling apart and that was one of my more chaotic times in my life emotionally. You don't have to believe those fearful thoughts. Focus on teaching your brain you are safe.
Pain and anxiety, anxiety and pain, chicken or egg. Pain gives me anxiety and anxiety makes me tense and gives me pain. I don't seem to make any progress with one or the other and nervous system in chaos all the time. Very small life and full of fear and tears every day and stuck in head with worry of my future. The anxiety cripples me and wants me in bed all the time and horrible brain fog/unreality is scarey too.
The suggestions on my getting started page will help. Https://www.PainFreeYou.com/start Consistent messages of safety are the way forward. th-cam.com/video/5SsKnAgAvnY/w-d-xo.html Your entire comment are consistent messages of danger. Flip the script to safety, I'm okay, this will work out, it's all temporary.
My symptoms started 2 years ago. Intermittent stinging, zapping , burning pain on the right side of scrotum. 1 year later the pains spread to the left side to. Fast forward to today, penile and groin pains have joined the list. Urologist did urine sample, prostate check and scrotum ultrasound. All negative. Sti check was negative. I’ve been implementing dr Sarnos approach for 2 weeks, to early to determine if it’s made a difference. Tried a chiropractor for 3 months and it made no difference, went to pelvic floor physio for 5 months which made no difference. Feel free to ask any questions.
All evidence is pointing to TMS or as I call it Perceived Danger Pain. The best place to begin is here: www.PainFreeYou.com/start Go through the resources, watch the videos, take the assessment. Your brain is creating the symptoms. Your body is fine which is why the doctors cannot find anything. This is great news. There's a solution.
This is me i had this docs called it prostaitis no infection found i was only 14 it took 2 years to go ive had it come back when stressed ive also got tendonitis etc ibs etc just starting tms journey
Addison’s forced me to learn more about adrenals and cortisol cycles. Cortisol is lowest 12am (midnight) - 2am then rises. Why many wake up 2am-4am. Peaks 8am-9am then drops slowly over day (few sml peaks). Morn cortisol should be 138 min (Canada). Chronically too high or too low it effects other key hormones. Chronic anxiety may lead to chronically high cortisol or revered circadian cycle (look up). Maybe worth morn/aft cortisol test (blood not saliva for accuracy). Severe imbal’d cortisol levels can be serious. Don’t self dx or treat w/Google or assume ‘adrenal fatigue.’ Organs don’t get tired and not why cortisol is low.
It means the brain perceives those activities as dangerous. That's it. You can teach the brain that activities are safe. th-cam.com/video/mRowJmW4uk0/w-d-xo.html My fast start playlist will explain it all: DansFastStart.com
@@jnnemsky It all depends on whether or not they hear about the mindbody concept and whether or not they are open to it. That shouldn't matter. If you know about it sooner, that is a wonderful thing. The fast start playlist I just shared with you is your path forward whether you find out about these concepts a few months in or years later. It will work regardless of the timing of discovering the real cause of the pains.
Don't forget this. IF it comes back, you know what it is and what to do to get rid of it. You got rid of it once and you'll be able to do that again. That insight can help you diminish the fear of it coming back.
If you can't switch off the pain, I guess you can't switch it on... But then who switches it on in the first place. Why do you get long term symptoms or pain but some are short term.. Thank you in advanced.
Desmond. The brain switches it on based on it's perception of danger. This video explains it. th-cam.com/video/tnU6KBAv5fg/w-d-xo.html Fear and attention can turn symptoms chronic. Some go away sooner due to less fear or perceived danger. My getting started page will help further: www.PainFreeYou.com/start
I have pelvic pain, I don't no what to do..i don't understand english, any body help me please.. High level anxiety, tres,s, depression, help me 😭please take my all money, give me my life
@@Truerealism747 The assessments will help you determine if your symptoms are TMS. Once you know it's TMS / Perceived Danger Pain that is causing the symptoms and not some structural problem, it is easier to dial down the fear.
No, not everyone does. But a vast majority have perceived danger causing their pain. th-cam.com/video/tnU6KBAv5fg/w-d-xo.html You can find out here if your symptoms are behaving like TMS or not: www.YourPainTest.com
No fear if anxiety been threw that before constant TMS so look forward to that coming no getting somewhere though still have anxiety over pain when it's unbearable
Wow you guys just explained exactly what ive been going through the pain goes away and my anxiety comes in. Even waking up my anxiety is there.
Another great success story! Dan, you’ve changed my life!❤️
Wow, you could be my double, read the same books, same PT, mine started this past janurary after a UTI.
Online CPPS courses, PT, meditation etc etc etc then I found Dan, gave up all PT, stretching, meditation etc, started riding my bike every day which consists of about 2 hours of heavy training, weight lifting daily and talking to my brain, listening to success stories and then the pain reversed, I started having more days with out pain then with.
It’s, now most of my days are pain free. This last Friday though, left a job of 22years, staring a new one and my girl friend said she started seeing someone else. The Pain came back but very light and livable.
Hopefully my recovery continues. I thought a broken heart is the worst pain, not until you’ve experienced pelvic pain. Hopefully one day I can live to laugh about it like everyone in these success stories.
You were fortunate to move over to a mind-body approach in such a short duration. What had you go that way? My story is similar just stretch it out to 1.5 yrs since that first UTI-like occurrence in April 2022. I moved over to a mind-body approach this February.
@@andrewfleming86 I’m farmiliar with TMS from 20 years ago, I used it to cure my back and shoulder pain from mountain biking and weight lifting which I still do daily without pain
Once I got CPPS I started with the book reading on TMS again but wasn’t totally convinced it was TMS. But once every thing else failed it was the only thing that made sense. Then I found Dan and his TH-cam coaching and that was the trick I needed. much better than rereading the books because this is a difficult pain for me to get rid of. Once I said the hell with the pain and started aggressively training again the pain became much more controllable. Now I have most days without it before it was the other way around.
Yep your story is the same as mine did all the same things. Broke up with a long-term relationship because he didn’t want to be with anyone who had health problems I had more than pelvic pain going on interstitial cystitis autoimmune fibromyalgia, my families in Chicago I moved to California, I stayed with a friend didn’t have a computer just went and traveled to see as much of California as I could and most of my pain went away except for my TMJ and trigeminal neuralgia.Just started doing this two weeks ago I had stopped googling anything that had to do with illness and that was my bad because I didn’t realize all this good stuff was out there back in the 90s nothing was out there. Keep doing what you’re doing I had a guy friend who had the same thing had lots of tension with his girlfriend new baby etc. thank God you’re better and yes a broken heart is bad but Pelvic. pain is way worse
I’m dealing with chronic pelvic pain and I really appreciate this video. I like how it is also a teaching moment as you can see Tom was still dealing with some fear and uncertainty as we all do. Very helpful. ❤
Just listening to “Tom from Vermont” relaxed me. I love his voice and delivery of his story. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
My number one thing that stops all pain is stop resisting and chasing a cure. The second you chase a remedy is the moment the pain increases as you are resisting. Stop solving things and just allow your being to be. Be the space of awareness for the pain to be :)
Hello dear what exactly you did...will you please explain
@sparkely1122
How do you teach the brain there is no danger?
when you feel pain do somatic tracking. When we’re in pain we tend to run from it, distract, have panic or anxiety which shows your pain it’s danger. If you do that opposite, go to the pain witness it (somatic tracking) this shows the brain oh, it’s not actually dangerous because we’re not running away.
Talking to the brain is helpful too.
No we’re safe. It’s ok
We’re safe. What I’m doing right now is healing it’s healthy it’s safe etc
Tom, I know your pain, literally. Dan interviewed me on the same TMS expression.
Pelvic pain is a special type of pain.
Thanks for sharing your story. You will help people by sharing.
Yes for me started after a fall 25 years.now other things added but fighting the beast
Tom-Thank you for sharing your story as it came at a much needed time for me. Dan's coaching about anxiety amping up as the pain goes way is just what I needed to hear. I have been making great strides on my journey to get pain free since I joined his group coaching calls but I have found that my anxiety has been going up in place of the pain. I have old traumas that are coming up due to new stressful events that are happening right now in my life. Knowing that all of this will pass brings me comfort and hope but hearing this interview about how anxiety is TMS really helped it sink into my brain that I am not broken and I don't have to be fixed. I am weaning myself off of my therapist (who was needed at the time I started with her but now seems like she just triggers more stuff each time I see her slowing my recovery down). The best therapy I am getting right now is from the Pain Free You group where I have a family that understands what I am going through and is there if I need them with love and no judgement. This was a great teaching tool for me-Thank you Dan and Tom! ♥
Yes, Anxiety is still the result of the brain being hyper-vigilant. But it's not a whole new problem. Safety is still the solution for anxiety as it is other symptoms or pain.
@@PainFreeYou Working on showing my brain that I am safe after all of these years is a challenge but I have the rest of my life to work towards that goal. I know I can do this as many before me have done it including you Dan. Thank you for being such an inspiration to us all. ❤
Tom, thanks so much for sharing your story. As you know, it brings hope to many people. Bless you.
I hope so!
Dr. Howard Schubiner told me that l am trying too hard. I should just live life and not let my brain give me false signals of not being safe and in fear. 18 Plus years in pelvic pain. It's time for me to start living again.
Thankyou for sharing Tom , good look with the future 🤗😊
Been a while since visiting, and just the title tells me I need to watch this asap.
If you're still experiencing symptoms - the daily videos are literally free coaching. Many are getting well just by implementing the concepts I share daily. You can too.
100% agree with the anxiety being a TMS "symptom" that replaces "pain". In this stage and I noticed it. Work in progress. Just been told I have a UTI and GP prescribed antibiotics. I have real issue with meds and allergies. I think my body has turned a corner re infection, so I'm gonna watch until at least the lab results confirm bacteria. Each to their own but I need to be in control of I'm not broken.
My grandma never took meds. With a uti she drank lots of water, ate cranberries and made herself fresh thyme- 🍵 tea. Thyme is a natural bacterie- killer. Maybe this helps you too! Take care!🤗🌻
@@Inge508 thank you so much. You are so kind
Well done Tom. You are really far ahead in your journey. I know what you mean. Yes, things are not all gone, but there is so much more indifference and that's amazing. You are on your way!
I also sit with my "things" 40 hours a week at a desk since 2,5 months since a longgggg time, and yes I also experience anxiety and it's far from funny but it's nothing to really worry about. Just f-it! Keep going man....great to see this!
Wow Nick! Think you are also well on your way Out just like Tom!
Keep going, well done and good luck!🍀👍
just as i think I'm healing
. I have it all over my body 😢 pelvic.. burning cramping
Arm numbness.. muscle spasam... i need a change.when is it my turn.. today today.
...❤
Focus on safety. Freak out less. When symptoms are up, the perceived danger is up.
DansFastStart.com will lead the way.
@@PainFreeYou 100% trying.. it's truly awful waking up with new symptoms in a dark room... but I studied them.. they went from pelvic , to arm to hand to anus.. to breast to leg ! Exhausted lol.. and just flew from london to florida .. in the aim to get better and have time off. .work...for a week...and my body is trying other wise. As always it's only your voice at 3am that soothes!
When I had dry eyes the doctors wanted to seal the drains in the eye and that would have made it worse, trapping the allergies in the eye. Thank God I walked away. Proud of myself. I was 24. Pretty smart.
Wonderful you trusted your intuition.
Dr sarno was my first, i went to him in 1991. My backpain went away fast, but suffered till i found Nicole Dec 2019. Yes, she explained this info in a way that finally clicked for me. I found Dan soon after. They were my go to'. Yes, all their styles different. I love Dan's message bc its so simple. Practicing indifference as he speaks about was also a huge clincher. And by the way, good for you on still playing hard ball. My husband stills plays on the same league (35 & over on LI, he's their catcher, 64 years old & still going strong against the youngins.)
Thanks for sharing your journey karen.
Hi how's this a SUCCESS STORY.
We love you Dan , please keep the theme as expected.
He's a TMS'-ER .
Massive improvement is still a success even if the pain isn't 100% gone.
Also Dan I do have a lot of worries, my son which I've mentioned before and also not being able to work at the moment and am wholly responsible for my home and the bills, so I worry about it all and all the what if's and what if I get sick and nobody here to take care of me. Feel so afraid and don't know if it's possible for me to get better here on my own. All the fears and worries driving pain and anxiety and insecurities of looking after myself. I don't know how to return to who I once was before all the stuff with my son.
I don't believe we have to fix our lives to get well. I got better in the middle of my marriage falling apart and that was one of my more chaotic times in my life emotionally. You don't have to believe those fearful thoughts. Focus on teaching your brain you are safe.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for watching
Whistling and singing are meditation to the mind can only listen to one thing everyone
Pain and anxiety, anxiety and pain, chicken or egg. Pain gives me anxiety and anxiety makes me tense and gives me pain. I don't seem to make any progress with one or the other and nervous system in chaos all the time. Very small life and full of fear and tears every day and stuck in head with worry of my future. The anxiety cripples me and wants me in bed all the time and horrible brain fog/unreality is scarey too.
The suggestions on my getting started page will help.
Https://www.PainFreeYou.com/start
Consistent messages of safety are the way forward.
th-cam.com/video/5SsKnAgAvnY/w-d-xo.html
Your entire comment are consistent messages of danger. Flip the script to safety, I'm okay, this will work out, it's all temporary.
Great videos Julie. Thank you. My anxiety is amped up and I’m going to check out your vids.
My symptoms started 2 years ago. Intermittent stinging, zapping , burning pain on the right side of scrotum. 1 year later the pains spread to the left side to. Fast forward to today, penile and groin pains have joined the list. Urologist did urine sample, prostate check and scrotum ultrasound. All negative. Sti check was negative. I’ve been implementing dr Sarnos approach for 2 weeks, to early to determine if it’s made a difference. Tried a chiropractor for 3 months and it made no difference, went to pelvic floor physio for 5 months which made no difference. Feel free to ask any questions.
All evidence is pointing to TMS or as I call it Perceived Danger Pain. The best place to begin is here: www.PainFreeYou.com/start
Go through the resources, watch the videos, take the assessment. Your brain is creating the symptoms. Your body is fine which is why the doctors cannot find anything. This is great news. There's a solution.
How is your symptoms?
@@supersaiyangoku1495I’m still having symptoms but will continue with the mindbody approach.
This is me i had this docs called it prostaitis no infection found i was only 14 it took 2 years to go ive had it come back when stressed ive also got tendonitis etc ibs etc just starting tms journey
Addison’s forced me to learn more about adrenals and cortisol cycles. Cortisol is lowest 12am (midnight) - 2am then rises. Why many wake up 2am-4am. Peaks 8am-9am then drops slowly over day (few sml peaks). Morn cortisol should be 138 min (Canada). Chronically too high or too low it effects other key hormones. Chronic anxiety may lead to chronically high cortisol or revered circadian cycle (look up). Maybe worth morn/aft cortisol test (blood not saliva for accuracy). Severe imbal’d cortisol levels can be serious. Don’t self dx or treat w/Google or assume ‘adrenal fatigue.’ Organs don’t get tired and not why cortisol is low.
How about if the activities do increase your pain?
It means the brain perceives those activities as dangerous. That's it. You can teach the brain that activities are safe. th-cam.com/video/mRowJmW4uk0/w-d-xo.html
My fast start playlist will explain it all: DansFastStart.com
Dan, it seems all the stories are after many years. Have you seen people catch this connection much sooner? After few months?
@@jnnemsky It all depends on whether or not they hear about the mindbody concept and whether or not they are open to it. That shouldn't matter. If you know about it sooner, that is a wonderful thing. The fast start playlist I just shared with you is your path forward whether you find out about these concepts a few months in or years later. It will work regardless of the timing of discovering the real cause of the pains.
Do you have an update from Tom? I have the same type of pain and seem to have a similar journey to him.
My pain has settled but I have massive anxiety it will come back
Don't forget this. IF it comes back, you know what it is and what to do to get rid of it. You got rid of it once and you'll be able to do that again. That insight can help you diminish the fear of it coming back.
@@PainFreeYou thanks Dan 🙏🏻
Same situation here 😊
You are not alone.
But we will fight
If you can't switch off the pain, I guess you can't switch it on... But then who switches it on in the first place.
Why do you get long term symptoms or pain but some are short term..
Thank you in advanced.
Desmond. The brain switches it on based on it's perception of danger. This video explains it. th-cam.com/video/tnU6KBAv5fg/w-d-xo.html
Fear and attention can turn symptoms chronic. Some go away sooner due to less fear or perceived danger. My getting started page will help further:
www.PainFreeYou.com/start
Wow, I so loving success stories about pelvic pain. Because I am in this story too.
You can get well too.
hey nice video
Glad you liked it
I have pelvic pain, I don't no what to do..i don't understand english, any body help me please.. High level anxiety, tres,s, depression, help me 😭please take my all money, give me my life
TH-cam has captions and you can change the language to yours. Subscribe and watch my videos.
What are you diagnosed with lower the fear I no easier said than done
@@Truerealism747 The assessments will help you determine if your symptoms are TMS. Once you know it's TMS / Perceived Danger Pain that is causing the symptoms and not some structural problem, it is easier to dial down the fear.
What does TMS mean? You said…”that’s TMS too.”
Coffee makes anxiety worse?
Caffeine is a stimulant. For some, the increase of adrenaline due to the caffeine can increase anxiety.
Not everyone has tms.
No, not everyone does. But a vast majority have perceived danger causing their pain. th-cam.com/video/tnU6KBAv5fg/w-d-xo.html
You can find out here if your symptoms are behaving like TMS or not:
www.YourPainTest.com
Dan sir please help,, take my all money n property, l living daily death life
@@Inge508 I try every day
@@Inge508 mam I am indian my language hindi....... Thank you so much
@@Inge508 thanks mam , I all ready watching sumit kumar video
@@Inge508 thanks
No fear if anxiety been threw that before constant TMS so look forward to that coming no getting somewhere though still have anxiety over pain when it's unbearable