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Steam Ages in Reflourished is GREAT: Here's Why

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  • this video is an honourary Here's Why video because heck you this video took me ages to make jesus christ.
    So, Reflourished. Probably the biggest mod we've seen PVZ2 have for years and years, and yet it took me this long to talk about it. Of course, I then made it into the second longest video on my channel (First longest is OMORI, if your curious. This video is way better than that one, duh). I have a lot to say about this collection of 32 levels through a mix of overanalysis, and my overwhelming addiciton to Plants VS Zombies 2, it seems.
    Still, Reflourished is a heckin' cool mod. And as it has finally gotten an update (a few months back now. I started this video close to when it released, if you can believe it. Whoops!) that I think most people can agree on as genuinely great, its very much worth discussion. I may never have a chance to do this again so screw it. We are making this long. Very long.
    With all that said, as is becoming my staple, I am sorry this took so stupidly long to make between uploads. I think I've given up having a consistent schedule, and instead want to make videos I want instead of videos that you want. Because you are all beneath me apparently. Ha.
    But yeah, hope you enjoy. If you want to play Reflourished, it'll be linked beneath for Android/Android Emulators ONLY. I do seriously recommend it.
    Reflourished Download: • Installation Tutorial!...
    Reflourished Discord Server: / discord
    My Discord (which contains my mod as well wink wink): / discord
    Timestamps:
    0:00: Intro
    4:03: Steam Ages: in summary
    5:40: Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic, Mechanic
    10:58: The Eternal Dingus Parade
    18:11: The Steam Siege
    24:00: Big Boom Man
    26:49: The Plants
    37:24: The Pits
    42:50 The Level Design Shift
    52:45 Conclusions
    Footage is from:
    Plants VS Zombies 2: Reflourished
    Plants VS Zombies 2: AltverZ
    Plants VS Zombies 2: Eclise
    Plants VS Zombies 2: Garden Rush
    (all are fan created mods)
    Plants VS Zombies. 2
    Plants VS Zombies 2 Chinese Edition
    The Sandman Short Film (Spook): • Sandman, The (1992)
    Music used (in order of appearance):
    Trees... - OMORI
    Eternal Dungeon - OMORI
    A Home for Flowers (Tuilip) - OMORI
    Steam Ages Demonstration Minigame - PVZ2 Reflourished
    PRANKED. - OMORI
    Showdown - UNDERTALE YELLOW
    Rigor Mormist (in-game) - PVZ1
    Chemistry On and On - OMORI
    Another Medium - UNDERTALE
    Forest Frenzy - OMORI
    Steam Ages (original) - PVZ2 Chinese
    Vigorous Terrain - UNDERTALE YELLOW
    Mining Co. - UNDERTALE YELLOW
    Relaxation - UNDERTALE YELLOW
    NMT Choose Your Seeds but in the style of Garden Rush - • Neon Mixtape Tour: Cho...

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  • @taghreedali1948
    @taghreedali1948 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1355

    I love how clockwork zombie has a pufferfish in his head. No reason, it’s just there

    • @razzyromeo
      @razzyromeo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      Swimmy swimmy

    • @macnzee7572
      @macnzee7572 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

      As someone who knows why, my hint to you is "use the commadore"

    • @c5h87
      @c5h87 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      sounds like an attempt to make a heart

    • @Feranogame
      @Feranogame 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

      I love how it is a twist on other robot zombies
      Other robots look like animals but are actually robots inside
      The Clockwork Zombie looks like a robot but is actually an animal inside

    • @AustinFire
      @AustinFire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      It might be a reference to how pufferfish toxins would create "zombies", essentially comatose people who'd wake back up in their grave

  • @Frugthereal
    @Frugthereal 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +800

    "I will not be as negative with mods anymore" Creeps when second half of the video walks in

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Yeah; I lied.

    • @jacksongreen4107
      @jacksongreen4107 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

      I think it's more of a "reverse clickbait warranty." The negativity is qualified and reasoned, and you need to actually watch the video and hear the reasoning, which reduces the likelihood it will be taken out of context. Creeps has recognized that they have an significant audience, and is taking care to ensure nobody gets overly influenced to dislike something by just the thumbnail.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Its curious because so far (20 minutes in) is one of the first Creeps videos im starting to disagree with.
      I may make an edit once I watch it all , maybe.
      So, edit; one thing I specially disagree IS on the take that overall is a bad thing to make the world overwhelming and/or too niche.
      Now, I may imagine why they this, and its because power creep, funnily enough;
      As this is probably the last world you may gonna play for Reflourished, making It on a diferent take as other worlds is actually a good thing for me. Adding that this world It make me to use plants that otherwise I wouldn't think I would use It.
      Power Creep also explains tanky zombies. Lets be completely honest here; PvZ2 always had these trait integranted on It design maybe to incentivice some actions -microtransactions- or maybe to always use the newer plants.
      So having an strong treat isn't as weird as It may sounds. Personally, I enjoy strong treats mini Boss like zombies that acts diferent as Gargantuars, and mechanic zombie seems a good idea on general. Most plants does a very good job as well if you know how to use them. I Saw here peanut as a very reliable early game plant and combined with Pumpkin It was a very powerful defense. Same I could say about other plants (this world clearly incentivices Pumpkin imo)
      Otherwise, I actually agree with this video, I could imagine where Creeps came from, is a very mechanical person on that regard for what I often see from his videos, but I actually would put SA much higher and why not, HM as well on that funni tier list.
      Maybe because I also give credit on other things such as style and music, and most of players as well (NMT being a main favorite makes me think so) so its no wonder why so many people enjoyed as much as me.
      Maybe because I overall enjoy more Reflourished, but opinions are good to differ to not make world monotone, eh?

    • @jacksongreen4107
      @jacksongreen4107 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@JoseViktor4099 Hey, that's good! In the end, what people find fun is objective. Game Design isn't an exact science. Disagreement is totally valid, people with followings just have to be a little more careful with how they express their opinions.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@jacksongreen4107 Indeed. As always , I think that is good for a person to express a sincere opinion that, while careful, doesn't need to appeal the masses,while the people who hear It to consider that opinion, instead of straight Up disagreeing or worshiping It, to think about It and make their own conclusions.

  • @nickk3077
    @nickk3077 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +335

    Whaaaat? I love the sound effects of gentleman zombie. He’s hilarious. It’s not like this hasn’t been done before. The pirate zombie makes exclusive words that no other zombie makes.

    • @averagerick9581
      @averagerick9581 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I fancy a cuppa

    • @menialbee
      @menialbee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      "brains on toast" nearly killed me

    • @TheBananaMan971
      @TheBananaMan971 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      "braaaaaains ahoyyyyy"
      "braaaainssssss, guvnaaa"

    • @katifis27-levyoftheabyss98
      @katifis27-levyoftheabyss98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I agree! I really enjoy the Gentlemen Zombie’s lines. They are very fun and give the zombie a whole lot of personality. I don’t care what Creeps thinks of it, it brings me a lot of joy

  • @lilharm
    @lilharm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +244

    it’d be cool if the buckethead’s candle went out when it’s been chilled
    it wouldn’t have any practical impact, but it’d be a neat detail

    • @agentmanface6255
      @agentmanface6255 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Hardcode

    • @hothdog
      @hothdog 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@agentmanface6255 newspaper

    • @agentmanface6255
      @agentmanface6255 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hothdog Doesn’t work like that

  • @velky_reeds
    @velky_reeds 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +166

    I dont think people realize that during the production of Steam Ages in Reflourished, the actual steam ages boss in the Chinese version hasn't realeased yet, and by the time that the steam ages pt. 2 update was realeased in reflourished, the boss that the mod team made was almost completely identical to what the chinese version had, which is insane because it goes to show that the mod team could literally run their own game at this point

    • @pora5000
      @pora5000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      The devs said on Discord that the first concepts of the Chinese Steam Ages boss were already revealed during RFL Steam Ages’ development. The Steam Ages boss in RFL is their own take based on that first concept, while 2C also develops another Zombot design over time. Admittedly the Chinese version did way better on the latest Steam Ages Zombot’s visual design, but the gameplay experience in RFL is still way better than 2C nonetheless.

    • @rayman3521
      @rayman3521 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@pora5000I wonder, will the Reflourished team update the Steam Ages boss so that it's closer to the Chinese version? I don't like how it just has 2 attacks and one of them is a barely different version of the Zombot Plank Walker's Imp attack.

  • @scotterboi9
    @scotterboi9 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +602

    Wait didn't Timmy die? Clearly, the only way for this to make sense is if Timmy is actually canonically Jesus reincarnate.

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Mo killed him

    • @InsanitySands
      @InsanitySands 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes.

    • @heatherhallfo5179
      @heatherhallfo5179 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Or hes secretly a zombie

    • @zepplinkiwigamer8217
      @zepplinkiwigamer8217 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      MO NOT AGAIN

    • @camwoodstock
      @camwoodstock 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Intensive Carrot Carl used his favorite plant to revive him, duh.

  • @johnbendicio2637
    @johnbendicio2637 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    2:14 I do remember that modern day 49 of reflourished is the only level where i lagged when i was choosing the plants due to the sheer number of zombies present on the preview screen and it took me ages to choose my setup 😂

  • @CoralReaper707
    @CoralReaper707 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +563

    Steam Ages if it was actually polished:

    • @porgnotfound3170
      @porgnotfound3170 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      It is

    • @iaminsideyourwalls2021
      @iaminsideyourwalls2021 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

      ​@@porgnotfound3170They're referring to the Chinese version which is buggy and laggy

    • @-rlmn
      @-rlmn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@porgnotfound3170if you say that if someone plays chinese steam ages at 3am their phone will break people will believe

    • @Idk_what_to_put_here
      @Idk_what_to_put_here 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@iaminsideyourwalls2021 its not actually really buggy

    • @FunnyTopHatFrog
      @FunnyTopHatFrog 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      the exploding furnace zombie:@@Idk_what_to_put_here

  • @sunmoonfx8251
    @sunmoonfx8251 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Gentleman: "Bloody plants."
    Creeps: "time to turn off sound effects"

  • @nickk3077
    @nickk3077 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    I love the atmosphere of this world. I just find it so cool to have a time period about innovative, steam-based inventions. The sounds of metal clangs and train whistles, along with the flying air balloon zombie and the clockwork zombie give off this air that the world has been mechanized in a completely unique way. Also, the gentlemen zombies are really funny saying stuff like "blimey" and wanting their tea.

  • @elfrangofrito
    @elfrangofrito 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    It's interesting to see you think Holiday Mashup is a bad world, I thought it was fine at worst and pretty fun at best.
    It feels like you're an extremely hardcore tower defense fan that knows the strengths and weaknesses of the genre in and out, which is great in isolation, but maybe not a great fit for analysing a game mod that's mostly very casual.
    Nevertheless I really love your videos and how insightful they are and this is no exception.

  • @PdotUdotSdot
    @PdotUdotSdot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    I think the reason inventor zombie can be healed by repair imp is that the balloon is mechanical and they want the balloon to be healed however since inventor is the same zombie balloon or not the game also heals inventor without the balloon

    • @eldritch_whispers1654
      @eldritch_whispers1654 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      he explained what happened in the video: Inventor zombie is considered a mechanical zombie (because of the balloon, obviously), but the Balloon itself counts as armor, which the repair imp CAN'T heal. That means the balloon isn't getting healed, just the inventor

    • @memerboi7128
      @memerboi7128 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@eldritch_whispers1654insert joke about objectifying women

    • @PdotUdotSdot
      @PdotUdotSdot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@eldritch_whispers1654 thanks, I missed that while watching the video

    • @PrismaNotTerra
      @PrismaNotTerra หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah
      The problem is that, internally, the only way to do it properly would be to turn Inventor from Balloon into Jetpack
      As in, she can't fall to the ground
      But that would just make her even more useless
      But I don't know why she was included in the first place if they knew that this was a problem

  • @primalpeashooter
    @primalpeashooter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    my only major criticism for this world is that the clockwork machines and clockwork zombies are too strong (imo) but other than that i think it's an amazing world.

    • @emilydavidson8844
      @emilydavidson8844 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Magnet can remove the headgear

    • @primalpeashooter
      @primalpeashooter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @emilydavidson8844 yes but it's really difficult to keep magnet shroom alive at the front and manholes at the back and can only take one at a time which can be way too long considering how much a level can use them

    • @emilydavidson8844
      @emilydavidson8844 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@primalpeashooter pumpkin

    • @primalpeashooter
      @primalpeashooter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @emilydavidson8844 pumpkin its quite expensive (for a wall) and has a long recharge, it also takes 2 seed slots to use magnet and pumpkin which isnt worth it and specials like barrel zombies and coal zombies completely nullify pumpkin as well

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@primalpeashooter Pumpkin underrated. Carried me for all Steam Ages.

  • @enderallygolem
    @enderallygolem 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    I thought the tanky zombies were what made pt2 steam ages great to be honest.
    When every zombie doesn't die in 3 seconds, you actually have to strategise your defence against them. Strong specials are fun to deal with. Plus you can actually make tough levels that don't rely on ridiculous amounts of rush since this is vanilla pacing we're talking about.

    • @GrindyVine
      @GrindyVine 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The problem is that some High HP zombies is sometimes spam spam spam, or just have annoying abilities on top of their bulk

    • @victory8928
      @victory8928 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It helps that there is a relatively less tanky special that exploits this tankiness but when you add that tankiness and gargs which can take 2 instas and live ish it becomes a bit of a slog especially when you are just reusing similar builds over and over again.

    • @jdg6192
      @jdg6192 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@victory8928cough cough far future having 3 tanky zombies and a shield cough

  • @maniadotcom6539
    @maniadotcom6539 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    MD-49 is my favorite level in RFL. This level IS the Ultimate Battle. Everyone is after you!

    • @yanderekobeni911
      @yanderekobeni911 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Same, Modern Day-Day 49 is just pure chaos and I love it.

    • @diputsnoob3815
      @diputsnoob3815 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I love that penultimate level (before zomboss 2.0 fight) of each world is pure chaos
      No strategy, just go full gun blazing

    • @yanderekobeni911
      @yanderekobeni911 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@diputsnoob3815 The finale before the boss fights in PVZ2 Reflourished are good because it's the calm before the storm.

  • @DTMP
    @DTMP 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    felt bad for stealing the first comment so here's an actual tidbit that Creeps forgot:
    Mechanic is doubly dangerous because of how he is coded. the game will spawn a new wave of zombies if the previous wave is damaged enough, usually. with Mechanic it is different: his HP DOES NOT count for this process. so you can kill Mechanic first and the next wave won't be triggered. however, because Mechanic has so much HP, it's far more common that you will hit other zombies first, and now the next wave is triggered while you have a 3k HP zombie spawner to deal with. and if said next wave has another Mechanic... you can be combo'd to death easily. out of all the traits Mechanic has, this is what makes him such a pain to deal with.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Huh, and Clockwork Zombies work diferent? Rather is a similar thing?

    • @DTMP
      @DTMP 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@JoseViktor4099since Clockwork is spawned from Mechanic, they don't count towards wave progression either.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DTMP Ah, I see, so I suppose It shares Code with the LC Imp.
      Pd: Btw hats off for your mod, I haven't played the new release yet, but It looks amazing Indeed.

  • @marcosettembre
    @marcosettembre 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    You forgot to mention how mechanic is impervious to lawnmowers

    • @Dijinut
      @Dijinut 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He's WHAT?

  • @ironmilutin
    @ironmilutin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Do you think that the gimmick would've been less of an issue if you unlocked pumpkin instead of peanut, and pumpkin worked like a lily pad where it would let you plant non-wall plants onto sewers if they're plugged up by pumpkin?

    • @foxinabox5103
      @foxinabox5103 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Imo maybe, i dont agree with the issue of unlocking pumpkin naturally. Gems are easy to get and you can buy lots of gemium plant without the time limited events.
      But i agree that pumpkin should act like a lily pad for manholes.

    • @LUCAS420BLZ
      @LUCAS420BLZ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Used pumpkin religiously in this world and I wish he was a world plant
      It is understandable he'd counter the mechanics if given for free

  • @aceae4210
    @aceae4210 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    transparent text transcript at 29:45 (text is messy, but is the onscreen text)
    "
    i was always bad with probability but
    i'm pretty sure it would be more
    accurately be some nonsense like 9s
    because of nonsense i do not
    remember maths. get good at it.
    "

  • @RandomDude1487
    @RandomDude1487 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Rare footage of Peanut being useful in PVZ

  • @adweck
    @adweck 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    WTF??? but didn't Little Timmy died already??? The creepsish lore is messed up....

    • @TickleMyPickle_
      @TickleMyPickle_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      intensive carrot revived him its fine

    • @qwacktrap1459
      @qwacktrap1459 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Little Timmy revived himself to watch his favorite TH-camr that he has a very parasocial relationship with

    • @rhinowithInternetaccess
      @rhinowithInternetaccess 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Maybe this a prequel to his death

    • @jmatt440
      @jmatt440 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      little timmy multiplied years ago and creeps never mentioned it

  • @nickk3077
    @nickk3077 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I love this world, but I have some big problems with it still. You can't plant non-instants on the tiles that the mechanic takes up, which is annoying if you want to plant a spike weed and a lot of the right most tiles are already being occupied by the manholes. Basically, when the mechanic shows up, the two rightmost lanes are basically all dead tiles aside for instants. The fact that the mechanic can't be defeated with a lawnmower is really, really dumb in my opinion because being one of the most threatening zombies that can't be destroyed by the lawnmower makes him overpowered to the point where he is probably the most overpowered zombie in the game. This is more a recurring problem with the game in general, but I wish that if a zombie carries something, that it isn't countered by burning and electric plants. That just feels like an awkward counter because it makes no logical sense that a fossil from Jurastic Marsh or a metal machine can get burned up, especially when no animation shows the object getting burned. It just makes the counter of magnet shroom less optimal than something that makes less sense like a fire pea.

    • @jdg6192
      @jdg6192 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mechanic is using the code of general zombies and it's hard coded

    • @nickk3077
      @nickk3077 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jdg6192 Yeah. I asked the Discord and they told me that. Makes sense.

  • @tinypvz8238
    @tinypvz8238 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im glad they added plenty more special zombies to this world, as the ACTUAL steam ages onlu had 3 special zombies. (Gentleman, furnace, and coal miner)

  • @JoseViktor4099
    @JoseViktor4099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Reflourished as a whole is one of my favorite mods. They already did an excelent job with Holiday Mashup (the one who decided to have mini-bosses along some levels deserve a -raise- kiss) so it wouldn't surprise me that they took it to make this controversial world , which fun fact one of the developers made a famous video about it and made it so much... Better?
    Damn and its impresive because it this world was released by Popcap this would be one of the best worlds in the game, no question.
    Really talks wonders about the skill of PvZ modding community.

  • @ohhi687itsme8
    @ohhi687itsme8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    47:05 *Hmmm, where else have I seen a level that has every special and "Don't lose X plants" that was bad? I almost can't remember*

    • @cloudy28
      @cloudy28 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      the curse of the bwb day 28
      petition for the next world in reflourished to also have the "don't lose x plants" objective and every special on day 28

  • @NeoBing
    @NeoBing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    This is a really nice summary on your thoughts on Steam Ages (and sometimes of Reflourished in general), it's paced very well and goes into depth on the nice pros and admittedly pretty big cons of the new part of Steam Ages. Seeing this video has definitely made me have some hope for the future of this mod, and I might actually decide to pick it up again if it continues to trend to a good direction. I do still think that your Power Creep video is the best video you've done so far but this video was no slouch either, since the upload schedule has slowed down, I can only hope to see better and better content on its way.
    (also i may start subtitling videos for you again bc damn that intro was hard to understand at points)

  • @nickk3077
    @nickk3077 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Although I don't agree with Creeps on everything, he should be the lead level designer of PvZ3. He clearly has way more passion about PvZ level design that probably everyone else working on that game and would definitely make better choices than them.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Indeed, although Creeps has potential to do rather a masterpiece or Good Timing (dont let him touch Vasebreaker ever again)

    • @nickk3077
      @nickk3077 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JoseViktor4099 still better than PvZ3 vasebreaker

  • @The_30629
    @The_30629 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    so what we can all agree on for mechanic is simple: He's HIM

  • @larrydupp3988
    @larrydupp3988 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I wonder if a reverse version of Mechanic would be possible to create, where something absorbs other zombies until it reaches capacity and makes one big one

  • @H20ZTS
    @H20ZTS หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "i feel like i can let go and enjoy my time"
    The robot zombies: hello there

  • @chinchillinEveryDayEveryWeek
    @chinchillinEveryDayEveryWeek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Please subtitles! I cant understand any of the intro

  • @Wrenchy247
    @Wrenchy247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This video is the definition of "I like this thing, here's why it sucks!"

  • @trinstonmichaels7062
    @trinstonmichaels7062 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Let's hope future modders will learn from reflourished.

  • @TFisthepointofthese
    @TFisthepointofthese 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My brain...hurts...trying to comprehend what you were saying in the intro...Good video though

  • @welkin7321
    @welkin7321 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    this was a really awesome video and it’s rlly cool that you can see how much effort you put into this! i would love to see more comprehensive reviews of mods like this video! that would be awesome if you wanna pursue this stuff more. (but i get if you wouldn’t bc it’s time consuming)

  • @Nar31
    @Nar31 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bowling Bulb is actually insane in this world; would recommend if you struggle against Mechanics

    • @GNVS300
      @GNVS300 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maypop is a flat out upgrade over BB

  • @selk8389
    @selk8389 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    bowling bulb really pops off in this world and holiday mashup

  • @plantas007
    @plantas007 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:48 "repair imp! Could you fix my dishwasher please?"

  • @DARKDERD5854
    @DARKDERD5854 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It`s not GREAT , its GEARt

  • @HoverMelon2000
    @HoverMelon2000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    No way Undertale Yellow music in the background I knew clicking on this video wasn't a mistake.

  • @lesser_thesecond1198
    @lesser_thesecond1198 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really wish that magnet shroom attracted fisher zombie’s hook, disabling it, and maybe snorkel zombie’s snorkel, causing it to surface

  • @kregheckel3628
    @kregheckel3628 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    To be fair, your video didn't sour that mod's reputation.
    That dev who shall not be named was already doing a good job with that before they got exposed for all the vile stuff they did. :v

    • @pommromm
      @pommromm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633Be racist, narcissist and defend a ped* at one point. I'm sure there are many videos on TH-cam about it that you can look up

    • @kregheckel3628
      @kregheckel3628 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633 best thing I can tell you is look it up for yourself because it is not suitable for this comment section.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633Did a lot of things. In one sentence, it did the things you might expect when someone becomes blind of influence. And hate for Vietnamese people as well.

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633 This is a quote for a TH-cam comment of his responding for some accusations
      "...
      and am I racist? yes, I f**king h*te v**tnamese. take that as whatever you think
      ..."
      I tried to see if this was out of context, but seems that is not.
      Erm.. I dont know what to say about It honestly.
      I have to censor this multiples times now...

    • @JoseViktor4099
      @JoseViktor4099 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@purple_the_guy_who_makes_g8633 This is a quote for a TH-cam comment of his responding for some accusations
      "...
      and am I r*cist? yes, I f**king h*te v**tnamese. take that as whatever you think
      ..."
      I tried to see if this was out of context, but seems that is not.
      Erm.. I dont know what to say about It honestly.
      I have to censor this multiples times now...

  • @rexyht2697
    @rexyht2697 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Pvz2 reflerished is one of my favorite mods alongside altverz and the new worlds can be fun and I am excited to see what's next.

  • @RyanDxxx0
    @RyanDxxx0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Certainly an intro of all time lmao 👏

  • @MutelyMutel
    @MutelyMutel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    40:32 got a smooth bowling bulb to sun transition. You're welcome.

  • @sombizoldado8996
    @sombizoldado8996 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how on the gargantuar note next to the paper that talks about requiring the zombies to take an extra turn at the factory (or something like that) theres a paper looking for an aerodinamic engineer (the inventor) and skilled mechanic (steam mechanic) before they appear on the adventure

  • @PenPenPending
    @PenPenPending 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Don't let children viewers' stupidity control the integrity and genuineness of your content.
    If you think there is a problem in something that you wanna talk about, talk about it.

  • @frankjelica5439
    @frankjelica5439 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aint nothin' good like a Creeps20 video with that OMORI OST

  • @guyfoxyinc.8042
    @guyfoxyinc.8042 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Could you do a video on lava guava? its honestly my favorite plant for some reason

  • @fulookin6701
    @fulookin6701 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    An hour long yapping session 🥱

  • @radiocaster2k
    @radiocaster2k หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I don't want to paint mods in a negative light anymore, that's why I haven't made any videos about them since"
    subtle roast

  • @richardmeulenkamp7343
    @richardmeulenkamp7343 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Steam ages made by PVZ2C as most of the steam age plants this is just high quality

  • @FreakoNek
    @FreakoNek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    bro is speaking xqc

  • @temp1894
    @temp1894 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So is reflourished a “what if” of pvz2 or is there something new or exciting to existing worlds?

    • @mydogghost
      @mydogghost 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah more levels in them it’s pretty cool mod

  • @RandomDude1487
    @RandomDude1487 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:07 Song: Showdown! from the Undertale Yellow OST

  • @Johnny10-man
    @Johnny10-man 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Plant idea: Napalm Tree
    Sun: 175
    Usage: Single-use, instant
    When planted, it blows up, dealing 1 insta-kill of damage in a 3x3 area and coating said area in fire
    -the fire lasts 30 seconds and deals 1.25x pea damage every 1.15 seconds
    -you can plant plants on the affected area while the fire is there, but unless they are fire-based (like snapdragon or fire pea), they will also take damage
    -if affected area includes water, the affected water tiles will boil instead of having fire on them
    -explorers and their varients will be reignited upon entering the area
    -all damage dealt via this plant (by it's explosion or otherwise) is fire damage
    -fire will warm plants nearby and set tumbleweeds on fire
    Probably needs balance, what do you think?

    • @Zeldrake
      @Zeldrake 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      sounds just like cherry bomb 2: boogaloo edition

    • @nightrider7036
      @nightrider7036 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it would be better to make it light an entire row (not lane like jalapeno) instead of being a strictly better cherry bomb.

    • @Johnny10-man
      @Johnny10-man 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nightrider7036 do you mean column?

    • @nightrider7036
      @nightrider7036 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Johnny10-man yeah I knew, I just wanted to be clear about it. (Also haha responded to a month old comment)

  • @GNVS300
    @GNVS300 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Part 2 was underwhelming for me. While all the plant and zombie designs are good, and Maypop Mechanic is easily my favourite new plant in the mod (it's basically Bowling Bulb done right), a lot of the levels just consisted of Mechanic spam, which I'm pretty sure goes against the mod's desire not to spam tanky zombies, and their health is way too high. I did enjoy some levels (notably the Locked & Loaded levels, the 'Don't lose more than X' and the boss was decent too), but found the two Reverse Engineering levels to be ludicrously hard to the point they took the fun out of an interesting Brain Buster.
    Edit: BRUH no way are you slandering Maypop when you defend Bowling Bulb who is probably one of the top 3 worst plants in the mod

    • @RufioTheThird
      @RufioTheThird 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh shit, just looked through newest comments and found the king!

    • @GNVS300
      @GNVS300 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RufioTheThird haha thanks!

    • @Creeps20
      @Creeps20  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      skill issue

    • @primalpeashooter
      @primalpeashooter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      mate bowling bulb is really good, just use 4 or more instant and stalling plants and you will see how busted he is, personally i use guac, squash, cherry/grape, and stunion

    • @GNVS300
      @GNVS300 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@primalpeashooter literally anything is good when using that many instants and stallers. BB is only decent for Plant Food or when first planted, his aqua bulb is pathetically weak

  • @tylazermk8271
    @tylazermk8271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been playing Reflourished for a few days now, and I haven't had this much fun with a PvZ tower defense in years. It's genuinely an amazing mod in my opinion.

  • @trekkinmain4974
    @trekkinmain4974 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This mod is f*cking awesome. It takes me back man

  • @ItsMeHernandez
    @ItsMeHernandez 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    9:11 female balloon zombie jumpscare

  • @damienshingledecker2312
    @damienshingledecker2312 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Creeps, can you make your next plant specific "Here's Why" video on Spore Shroom? I don't care in what way, I just think it is a super interesting plant

  • @lovesgarfield-com
    @lovesgarfield-com 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Mechanic took about 5 people to animate, including me

    • @Creeps20
      @Creeps20  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      yeah that sounds about right

  • @aceae4210
    @aceae4210 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I know creeps is saying steam ages, but all I'm hearing is "c mages" (sometimes "c majers")
    think it's because I the "t" in ste isn't being said
    really good video disregarding that

  • @MalJaws
    @MalJaws 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Barrel zombie was actually a cut zombie from Pirate Seas! It makes sense how it doesn't fit the theming, it wasn't made for it

    • @januszpolak254
      @januszpolak254 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wasn't he made for Dark Ages ?

    • @MalJaws
      @MalJaws 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@januszpolak254 I thought it was pirate seas but you might be right? Honestly it goes well either way imo

  • @codymead1334
    @codymead1334 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just completed Steam Ages, and I enjoyed it a lot. mainly the music, it's so good! also Citron is my beloved.

  • @mintyaquagreen1675
    @mintyaquagreen1675 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let me just tell you something. A mod that continues the story of its predecessor and tries the proper mechanics is the best kind.

  • @Ashy_Bee
    @Ashy_Bee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    imagine if this world gets extra levels ,furnace zombie could spam from man holes

  • @ripleyandweeds1288
    @ripleyandweeds1288 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the reflourished team put so much effort into Mechanic Zombie and the Clockworks that they made sure you see it in Steamworks, even if it kills you

  • @rogofos
    @rogofos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    who else keeps hearing "C majors"?

    • @GNVS300
      @GNVS300 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Casual song keys for hardcore PVZ fans

  • @NexoNexus
    @NexoNexus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I heard Showdown theme in this video
    Now i cant stop panicking about undertale yellow

  • @Dark_Slayer3000
    @Dark_Slayer3000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    7:00 Undertale Yellow music, awesome!
    This is the song "Undertale Yellow OST: 070 - Showdown!"

    • @Dark_Slayer3000
      @Dark_Slayer3000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      YOOO There are 3 more after this! But I just found out, he did write the names of them in the description already lol

  • @zopriar5
    @zopriar5 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I've never heard of this mod! This world also seems really cool!

    • @chickenpotbiebro202
      @chickenpotbiebro202 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It really is! basically free to play PvZ2

  • @LaserZman
    @LaserZman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bet nobody will see this comment, but full grown ultomato hard counters mechanic. Although if you're only able to get 1 max one due to having a bad economy you can micro it with escape roots, saved me a lot of pain on the later levels

  • @PinkEndymion804
    @PinkEndymion804 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Who knew that The Mechanic is still one of the strongest and popular zombie in both PvZ 2 Reflourished and PvZ GW1-2…

  • @shadowfigure9306
    @shadowfigure9306 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please more of these intros i think they are kinda funny

  • @whywereiborn1148
    @whywereiborn1148 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:28 Primal sunflowers in a staircase

  • @deliriumthewaifu7030
    @deliriumthewaifu7030 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You're hard to hear

    • @logan8445
      @logan8445 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damn 😂

  • @joshualeespiny7172
    @joshualeespiny7172 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Every time you said "Steam Ages" I heard it as "C majors"

  • @Maddox445
    @Maddox445 หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:37 is no one going to mention that he said repair imp twice when he could have said it once, I wonder why

  • @teriso1793
    @teriso1793 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is anyone else who hasnt played reflourished yet absolutely terrified of this world

  • @donanilao7724
    @donanilao7724 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love a second Alterverze x Reflourished crossover just so I can experience Steam Ages part 2 in Alterverze.
    Also, this video didn't spoil my childhood innocence. You absolute scammer, Creeps.

  • @DJ_JOHNN
    @DJ_JOHNN 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please talk about the animations in pvz2 for some of the new elements or plants are severely cut down and choppy asf

  • @shadowstorm_plays
    @shadowstorm_plays 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    14:14
    ...
    BLOODY PLANTS

  • @SpicyMediaReal
    @SpicyMediaReal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reflourished, is Aloe a viable option?
    Put endurian next to an aloe so the zombies get to chomp away at a damaging wall.
    Although that would take 2 seed slots away that could be dedicated to something that actually contributes to the team.
    Or the vents could just not be there or not allow zombies to spawn if a wall is placed there.

  • @youforgotthelinkinthedescr6798
    @youforgotthelinkinthedescr6798 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You need subtitles.

    • @Naggyed
      @Naggyed 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They do have them.

    • @RandomFurry07
      @RandomFurry07 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Naggyedauto generated subtitles don't really capture much accuracy at times

  • @tylazermk8271
    @tylazermk8271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question about 38:30, what makes Sling Pea wrong here? Is it the gems? Because I feel like by the time you get to steam ages you can afford most gem plants, so I might be missing something.

  • @NothingCycle
    @NothingCycle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just watching your video wondering if you upload, definitely didn't expect this!

  • @Death-mg8gc
    @Death-mg8gc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Esteemed colleagues it is the entirety of my pleasure to commemorate this video's long awaited release.

  • @wimby158
    @wimby158 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    52:37 Creeps turns into Pops from Regular Show

  • @ringer1324
    @ringer1324 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I genuinely have no idea what creeps is saying here 0:12

  • @AidenJ-nv9qc
    @AidenJ-nv9qc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    7:02 *Starlo intensifies*

  • @Junkclops
    @Junkclops 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Octo-Zombie or Wizard Zombie were in the same level of a mechanic than it would just be impossible.

  • @vinstatic420
    @vinstatic420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My favourite part was when you said you weren't going to critique the mod in the video intro and then proceeded to nitpick every pixel and every tiny design choice imaginable for 50 minutes. While I understand you're just very passionate about this, sometimes you just got to relax and turn off your brain a little when you play something man... When you get bothered by every single thing on such a microscopic level, I fail to see how anything would satisfy you. But that's just me, I know you repeated a lot how the way you talk about these things is special to you and I respect that, but at some point the amount of overanalyzing becomes counterproductive to both yourself and the developers. The other thing I would mention is how you critiqued RF's Steam Ages for not allowing you to win using dumb strategies like you can in vanilla... and yet you spend most of your channel critiquing how easy vanilla is and continue to play Eclipse which, as I'm sure you know, is even more restrictive to such strategies. I don't get it

    • @mydogghost
      @mydogghost 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Esclie he criticized before also he’s playing a new build of eclipse as he get early access. Also it’s wasn’t made from the original creator goodpea.

  • @chadthedrunkard4941
    @chadthedrunkard4941 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact he points out how many zombies are destroyed by Magnet Shroom and then he shows he never used any in the b-role

    • @azsazazsa
      @azsazazsa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Magnet is very difficult to keep alive in the frontlines of this world. I still use it, but I get not using it cuz it can be annoying. Also he used it several times, one of which at 28:55

  • @ryelo5448
    @ryelo5448 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My favorite thing about steam ages was beating it without any wall plants. It really made me like a couple of levels a lot more then usual. I also only had 6 seed slots and 50 starting sun the entire time as well.

    • @WillMAW2
      @WillMAW2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fellow upgrade-skipping player spotted

    • @ryelo5448
      @ryelo5448 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WillMAW2 fellow upgrade skipping player noted

  • @sterlia5915
    @sterlia5915 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My biggest question is whether the original steam ages world mechanic would have been better. The biggest problem I have with that mechanic is that the sewers would skip almost entire lawns. Of course, this is level design, not the mechanic itself, but it can be frustrating all the same.

  • @turtledoesstuf
    @turtledoesstuf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I misread the thumbnail as “it’s gyatt” 😭😭

  • @reaperz5677
    @reaperz5677 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Am I the only one who can barely understand the intro?

    • @armageddongirl612
      @armageddongirl612 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      no, creeps just doesnt talk clearly
      i cant understand a lot of things hes saying

    • @reaperz5677
      @reaperz5677 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@armageddongirl612Some closed captions would've been nice, honestly.

  • @halfapoptart
    @halfapoptart 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hey creeps i just started watching you again i started watching at when you ad like 5k subs or smth but what app downloader do you use

  • @eden5560
    @eden5560 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Furnace is the Blitzkrieg zombie, the council has decided.