Newly-ratified Employment Equity Act unpacked

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  • Chief director of labour policy at the Department of Employment and
    Labour Thembinkosi Mkalipi, Solidarity deputy CEO Anton van der Bijl
    and labour analyst Michael Bagraim unpack the newly-ratified
    Employment Equity Act.
    Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more.

ความคิดเห็น • 85

  • @christinefinniss6263
    @christinefinniss6263 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Utter rubbish by Department of Labour. The economy is not delivering precisely because of labour laws. What does the ANC government know about running business? They can’t even run the country. Every SOE has failed. #VoetsekANC

    • @kellyalexander7347
      @kellyalexander7347 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing we had a president that only has his grade 3 running this country so what can we expect .

  • @craigclifton7254
    @craigclifton7254 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    what a load of crap, this country has had bee for years and has not worked,look at Eskom Prasa Post office SAA etc

  • @christinefinniss6263
    @christinefinniss6263 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Department of Labour and Employment should change name to Department of non Labour and unemployment.

  • @CitiesForTheFuture2030
    @CitiesForTheFuture2030 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Our economy should be so successful that EE shouldn't be necessary. If the governmenr had done its job (good governance) our economy should be thriving and ALL people would have access to income generation opportunities nulifying the need for EE. So, the failure of EE is a reflection of government ineptitude, corruption & uninterest in good governance in ALL sectors - including social & urban management & services, supporting small & micro businesses, education, skills development, supporting the informal economy etc etc etc. As our economy shrinks (including due to our energy crisis) jobs become scarcer. EE reflects a failure of good SA governance.

  • @riteshhurryjith2737
    @riteshhurryjith2737 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please all this transformation is political weapons...when a human wakes up and seek employment and if he has the skills to do that job so let it be. You cannot take away a humans individual rights. Each human must make his life matter. Don't use peoples company as a voting station. We ask for Indvidual human rights not by race but as a human. Please companies this is your company, you have a right to employ and make your company grow don't let someone to run your company. We are tired!

  • @sphemakh
    @sphemakh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lol 😂 the analyst (neutral party) on employment equity opens with " it's worse than apartheid and nazi Germany" 😂😂😂

  • @sagesse9551
    @sagesse9551 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SA Stats shows who the majority are in the country. Over breeding is the reason we have this problem of poverty and unemployment. When will a new Amendment Act be enforced that you may NOT have children you CANNOT afford to have. Most children in this country are left to the street to fend for themselves. Parents MUST step up people!

  • @hussaingool1859
    @hussaingool1859 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These Politicians can see that what they are now proposing for the Private Sector, is being employed in the Public Sector and what a MESS has resulted in these DEPARTMENTS. Do they want the Private Sector also to be MESSED UP IN THE SAME WAY. JUST WONDERING.

  • @azeemhoosain4004
    @azeemhoosain4004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you cannot solve an issue by disadvantaging another group, start fixing and working on fixing unemployment.

  • @Hendrid9376
    @Hendrid9376 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    our Country has lost its Think Tank....Kick them out 2024

  • @charlesvanonselen6251
    @charlesvanonselen6251 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Has this guy from dept of labour never heard of experience???? They seem to ignore that aspect of the job! You need qualifications AND experience!!!

    • @kellyalexander7347
      @kellyalexander7347 ปีที่แล้ว

      These fools have no clue

    • @lengaumosotho
      @lengaumosotho ปีที่แล้ว

      Experience comes from opportunities given, if you are in management with low qualifications, someone gave you the experience through opportunities which somehow people with qualifications are not getting. On what basis did you get those opportunities to gain that experience? Is it merit? on what basis?

    • @charlesvanonselen6251
      @charlesvanonselen6251 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lengaumosotho experience can be gained from working with/under someone who has it, and through time spent at that level. The problem in our current working environment is that people are job hopping! From the moment they get a position, they are already applying for the next one up. The end result is not much experience gained at every level so you end up with a "manager" who actually has no experience at the previous levels on which to fall back on!

    • @lengaumosotho
      @lengaumosotho ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesvanonselen6251 Which people are hoping and which ones are not. Are you sure that all those that have 'experience' are not hoping? My point is focus on who is given opportunities to gain experience, if you don't address that, it will always be oh look, skill shortage, 'merit', experience

    • @charlesvanonselen6251
      @charlesvanonselen6251 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lengaumosotho You gain experience through TIME, by performing the job at a high level (SUCCESSFULLY), on a continuous basis. Nobody GIVES you opportunities to gain experience.

  • @lorrainebeaumont480
    @lorrainebeaumont480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Government must uphold the law and they all need to go to jail for corruption, theft and using the legislation for their own benefit. They are lawless

  • @peterlukas1964
    @peterlukas1964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oooo God the BEE didnt work , you can see it in the shops , Its like Im doing you a faver helping you , they are thinking they paid me for helping me paying for my stuff, South Africa if you got the skills you get the job

  • @tibbydudeza
    @tibbydudeza ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More rules and regulations but the economy is shrinking and joblessness rate is growing - only thing the govt is good at.

  • @moon160260
    @moon160260 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Read the audit reports of the Municipalitys . Business cannot waste money's as Government waste, that they do not work for.

  • @romanussaal712
    @romanussaal712 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some of us Boesmans/Hotnots are at a braking point, We are tired extremely tired of the European Dutch/German Settlers in our Country, We are tired very tired of a Bantu Settler Goverment in our Country...of all kind of foreign laws and policies or acts imposed on us and exlude Indigenous Coloured communities their rightfull place in South Africa...We want our Land back...We want to Govern our Country...60% of SA belongs to the Indigenous /KleurLinge./.Coloured..in South Africa...We are done with any arguments..
    .

  • @phillipreyneck
    @phillipreyneck ปีที่แล้ว

    Coloured and Indian People given up their
    Proxy as result of consolidating National Coloured Congress and National Indian Congress into Africa National Congress. The only common dominant is Congress.Concerpt learnt from a Workers Union philosophy and framework.Advise to Comrade relationship & unity,People created Jobs not workers create Jobs.

  • @danyon5099
    @danyon5099 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think we should go back to the olden days during apartheid way of school curriculums..sex , gbv.. should not even be mentioned..our young girls can't even shew a button to their shirts..wood working for boys at college level ther more.. everything starts from grass root level..to broaden the minds of our youth...it's impossible for every one to be technically inclined some got to dirty ther hands..and work ther way up

  • @danyon5099
    @danyon5099 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaking about gutter education.,,how and what our children being taught,, I'll call gutter..

  • @nels9577
    @nels9577 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which country is this man living in, there’s so much discrimination against black people in the workplace. Just read CEE report and see which demographics are preferred for leadership positions. The latest excuse being that black skilled candidates are expensive and are job hopping because they are in demand in the market. Majority of black people are sitting at the lower occupational levels as such are the lowest earners still. The insinuation that black people are not educated enough to take these people is absurd.

  • @herbtuck1481
    @herbtuck1481 ปีที่แล้ว

    Helen zille signed for this employment equity act in 2013 the DA is partly to blame for this

  • @danyon5099
    @danyon5099 ปีที่แล้ว

    SA must stop fly to other countries and try implement ther way of education... most people over the age of 55yrs old can use ther minds much better if figering some things out than the youth of today..the youth are to captured with technology and unfortunately the poor of the poorest don't have access to the neccary tec equipment..and not all are set to fill those positions irrespective they being trained

  • @firstcomment749
    @firstcomment749 ปีที่แล้ว

    A country with natutal resources in abundance SA youth is 60% unemployed. The overall policy is one economic deindustrialisation. Education standards is lower than it's ever been.
    Socoial engineering will make it worse - it can collapse what's left of the entire system onto it's footprint. There simply is no short cuts to reverse the deterioration without addressing the root of the various problems asap.

  • @carl4017
    @carl4017 ปีที่แล้ว

    Things would be better if government just left everyone alone. As a business owner youcl can clearly see these people ran nothing in their lives before. Im coloured and all these ministers are just going to do is make us redundant!

  • @dewaldtfourie4241
    @dewaldtfourie4241 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who are they talking to?

  • @senormystery721
    @senormystery721 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shem. Another thing for the tribes to totally fork up. Millions of them and they cannot unite and build a country. Someday perhaps their offspring will invent the mirror to show them the problem. For now we must just keep giving handouts and feel guilty for incompetence on Jan Van Riebeecks part.

  • @beverleyvrieling4977
    @beverleyvrieling4977 ปีที่แล้ว

    Schew, very scary 😮

  • @danyon5099
    @danyon5099 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like most of people over the age of 55yrs old.whom only has a primary education..can read and understand better than most of our matriculants if today..

  • @lgomomo
    @lgomomo ปีที่แล้ว

    Madness, if social engineering does not work why would the constitution achive equality on its own....South Africa remains African land...we want our land back from everyone including the ANC.

  • @lungamasuku6872
    @lungamasuku6872 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    30 Minutes of watching this interview and now I support this bill 100%

    • @charlesvanonselen6251
      @charlesvanonselen6251 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Bill is inherently RACIST. If you objected to Apartheid, how can you agree with this Bill??? Double standards as per usual!!!!

    • @tibbydudeza
      @tibbydudeza ปีที่แล้ว

      Just more Section 189's and more R350 handouts.

    • @tsek5616
      @tsek5616 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a fool you are 😂😂😂

    • @TheCyab
      @TheCyab ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 100% shocked at the “neutral” Labour Analyst

    • @lungamasuku6872
      @lungamasuku6872 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesvanonselen6251 South Africa is inherently racist and who made it that way???and the black people who are still called colored and Indians are not going to miss out because of this bill!,i just finished reading it for the 3rd time and the bill is good for all black and brown South Africans so it’s good by me!

  • @nels9577
    @nels9577 ปีที่แล้ว

    Essentially, our coloured people are the most impacted by the sectoral targets, with their target reducing by 8% that’s needs to be rectified. The targets for Indian and White people remained the same. In my sector they both slightly increased.
    If interested go read the latest CEE report. You’ll see why we still need to create wealth opportunities for previous disadvantaged groups and why we still need AA. No where in the amendments does it talk about employment termination as a consequence of AA. I must say I like that they increased the scope of compliance analysis.

    • @esahm373
      @esahm373 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where do you get these target percentages from?

  • @vancehodgson5492
    @vancehodgson5492 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make SOE work and be profitable and then come preach to us.

  • @bngmnh3583
    @bngmnh3583 ปีที่แล้ว

    ....just another order from the World Economic Forum

  • @vah-s1442
    @vah-s1442 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neutral analyst lol

    • @OPC-do8dn
      @OPC-do8dn ปีที่แล้ว

      Was going to say the same.
      Michael Bargraim is no neutral party in fact he was the DAs labour spokesperson who advocated for a laissez faire " hire and fire at will " labour dispensation despite what the constitution set out as cornerstone of our constitutional democracy.
      Social engineering is what every piece of legislation is all about. It is basically about positive change to the fabric of society not the uncritical nonsense that Michael is trying to shoe hone social engineering into. Yes Nazism, Apartheid, colonialism, slavery and settler modes of economics were the negative side of social engineering.
      Most of what the two white gentlemen are talking about is retreaded neoliberal attitudes towards labour market related issues.
      Its not true that you have to have growth as a prerequisite for employment government expenditure meaning the fiscus can act as stimulus to effect that growth. We have seen that in the New Deal in US in response to the Great Depression, at the same time w esaw what Nazi Germany did with hoq it geared its economy towards employment, skills development and wealth creation. SOuth Africa post 1994 under Mbeki as president and Manuel as Minister of Trade and Industry and then Minister of Finanance everaged the state through various insteuments such as trade policies, forex regulations, labour regulation etc. Th3 problem with those two gentlemen was that growth under them was not leveraged by the private sector towards employment, skills development and reindiateialisation on the contrary we had jobless growth and companies far more willing to pay penalties to the Departmwnt of Labour for not using the legislation, institutions and funding towrads greater skills development, employment and equity. Their second focus was on greater profits for their shareholders, balloooning remuneration packages for their Csuite executives and boards, illicit financial outflows and primary listings outside the country of corporations who got to where they were by robbing the vast majority of South Africans of fair remuneration and removing a tax(government income) source away from the South African state.
      Those were only the more structural and systemic issues what about the refusal to promote qualified Black employees rather than their preference for white candidates.
      The books about the experience of how the mostly white private sector actually treated Black employees and executive talent have as of yet not been written I know of a couple of cases where that was the practice. Yet these two gentemen are offering us, nearly 30 years into democracy, the same excuses they offered in protest to redress as some of their white buddies then did so nothing ha sloterally changed.
      Therefore legislation therefore policy therefore targets and enforcement.
      Just as we have seen with a botched TRC process hoping that the R would be effeced by a voluntary T nothing is going to change unless it's demanded or enforced through,what Michael so mischievously refered to as social engineering we will have the same arguments in 20 years with a much deeper crisis than now. Problem is these arguments are only advanced in defence of the status qou unless we do something constructively about it.
      However not with the amendeds to the current EEAct.
      Lastly a poor representitive panel. They did not inspire with their analysis and aneothe rwith thwir prognosis and forecasting. The host also did not ask searching questions as I woul have expected him to do.

  • @truth-Hurts375
    @truth-Hurts375 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember the Three Chamber Parlement that was created by your Allmighty PW Botha???? Karma is a bastard !!!!

    • @swartkat3472
      @swartkat3472 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Karma will eventually come to get you to

    • @JamzyZiggy
      @JamzyZiggy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Zimbabwe 2.0 my friend already heading there and fast!

    • @maryduplessis2510
      @maryduplessis2510 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is another saying "the wheel turns". Fact is, if business decides they have had enough of these racist policies and decide not to invest then government is screwed and every South African too....these race based legislations have to go and are not benificial for anybody and also do not pass constitutional muster. You should also take note that people born after 94 are being discriminated against and had nothing to do with apartheid. Yes, the wheel turns.

    • @lorrainebeaumont480
      @lorrainebeaumont480 ปีที่แล้ว

      Our country has been looted because of abuse of these laws for self enrichment. It is not karma when it is engineered by mere men. God takes care of karma and take care of it He will!

    • @lorrainebeaumont480
      @lorrainebeaumont480 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 3 chamber parliament was not created by Coloured people and we were part of the struggle and voted this useless government into power. God help us!