How to DESTROY All The Popular Formations in FM23! (Works For FM24)
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- All the info you'll need on how to beat the most popular formations in FM23 compiled into one video! Whether you're coming up against a 4231, 433, 442 or a 3 at the back tactic, this video will show you how to counter them all!
Timestamps:
0:00 How to beat the 433
6:25 How to beat the 442
11:37 How to beat the 4231
17:21 How to beat 3 centerback formations
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This channel is so underrated man... keep up the grind my guy
You're too kind my friend, I really appreciate it!
I used the low block 433 against a 3 CB team in Serie B and it worked like gangbusters, I won 4-1. These type of videos are great and I feel like I learn so much more. I love the simple instructions of "if they have great WB's do this, or if not do that" type of thing. It's a simple way to learn tactics and gives us something specific to watch for. Thanks and I look forward to more!
Thanks man, I really appreciate it! Simple instructions while providing a lot of insights is exactly what I'm going for, so glad the video could help you out! Who are you managing in the Serie B?
Always struggled against 4-4-2, this explanation is perfect!
Man, this is like a ten-minutes coach's license course. And it's for real
Happy to hear you found it valuable!
Fantastic video. This is the type of content that the community needs as opposed to all of the clickbait meta tactic stuff.
Great work man. this video makes me notice carefully opponent's tactic and try some new things to counter them instead of always using favorite tactics. still waiting the results some matches so far, but i see my players play quite positive with new changes. Xin chao from Vietnam 💯
yesterday night i played liverpool 5 times loosing all the games i applied the first tactic i saw from you on how to beat the 4-3-3 and i won finally, thanks man!
Great work. I even write it down so I can remember later. Masterclass! Thank you!
You're absolutely welcome my friend, glad you enjoyed it!
What a class you just gave.. great video, Congrats my guy!! Love from Portugal 🇵🇹❤️
Happy to hear you enjoyed the video, and love to see people all the way from Portugal watching the videos!
Wow this channel is unreal. Liked and subbed. Hope the content keeps coming
Such kind words! This weekend will unfortunately not see a video on the channel, but next weekend we'll get back on track with more FM content!
Wow!, just wow! Your analysis is so apt and easy to understand.
Do you have something like this for FM23/24 mobile versions? Or any other channel that analyses like you?
Great content ❤
Good video man! I'm a defence focused kinda guy and this year I have had good success using a 4-4-2 with 4 different teams
How has the 442 been defensively for you? Are you noticing any issues with being outnumbered in the center?
FOUR FOUR FUCKING TWO LADS!!!
Honestly, I love the simplicity of the four four two, I wish it would come back more.
Great video. i'm now subscribed 💖
Happy to have you hear my friend!
Zo leerzaam. Dankjewel!
Goed om te horen dat je er wat aan hebt!
I love using the 433 but now I know how to defeat one thanks a million man!
You're absolutely welcome my friend!
Only just heard of you and so glad I have,great vid mate
Very happy to have you here my friend, and glad to hear you enjoyed the video!
Excellent work and video ❤
Thanks man, I appreciate it!
Great video. Thanks!
You're absolutely welcome!
Im wating for this and u pop up,keep up man!
Happy to have popped up on the right time then!
Great video mate., cheers!
Thanks man! I'm noticing you're here for almost all the videos, just wanted to say that I really appreciate the support my friend!
Top video Roan, would love to see the ‘Mourinho Tactics’ video ideas mentioned elsewhere in the comments section! Appreciate the content mate 👍🏽
And I appreciate kind words and great suggestions, and you just brought up both, so thank you my friend!
The charm of tactics in FM is to find a way to combat all these popular formations with your own system and It's certainly possible
I definitely agree that building/tweaking your own tactic is one of the most fun things about FM! The way I tried to make this video was to specifically highlight the conceptual strengths and weaknesses to facilitiate people making their own tactics, with example tactics truly just being examples.
I love ur content mate, keep it up. Stay healthy, God bless
Thanks man, I appreciate it!
Best video you've ever done. I'm now subscribed..
Happy to hear you enjoyed it, and welcome aboard!
Nice video mate! i learnt a lot. just a suggestion: timestamps for those that want to come back to certain formations and check things. will watch more of your videos so thanks for this.
Great suggestion, thanks! I'll see if I can add timestamps to the video still
Very nice video
Happy to hear you enjoyed it!
I used your 433 with volante's against a 4231 worked like a charmed. The only change a made was tackle harder on a individual levels to all players except the cd's.
Love that small adjustment! That's what videos like these are all about, take away useful information/examples, but always adjust to your own team and situation!
Finally, someone did this shit. I’m struggling to find this since fm 2015. Great job, mate!
Very happy to finally scratch that itch for you!
hey coach, thank you for this video. its very usefull. can you also make a video about how to beat 442 diamond tactic?
Happy to hear you enjoyed the video! I'm currently not sure if I'll make a video on how to beat the 442 diamond, as it would be very similar to the how to beat the 442 video, just with some small adjustments for the CAM/CDM instead of the 2 CM's. If there is anything specific you would want advice on though, I'd be happy to help you out!
Coach Roan u legend 🙌
Right back at ya! Great to see you back in the comments again!
Hi, great video! Really helpful! What tactic would you recommend to beat the first alternative against the 4-3-3 suggested? (The 4-3-3 with 3CDM’s 2 being Segundo Volante’s)
Thanks, happy you enjoyed the video! The 433 with 2 Segundo Volante's leaves a lot of space between their attack and their midfield, so I would look to use a quality defensive mid as a playmaker, and then use fast attackers to get in behind their defence, where the DM can ping through balls over their defence.
@@coachroan amazing, I appreciate the response! Have you any tested tactics you’d suggest? (Links appreciated!) no matter what I seem to play 3-4-2-1, 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 etc I seem to get beat!
@@pho3n1x_t16 Don't currently have any downloadable tactics I'm afraid, as I want to promote people to try and make their own tactics with my channel.
What I would say, is that a tactic is only as good as the players playing it. If you keep losing with multiple different formations, I would advice you to look deeper into your squad and where their talents lie, to then build your tactics to utilize those strenghts. Hopefully that can change the tide for you!
nice video
Thanks, happy to hear you enjoyed it!
Great video! Which tactic is stronger for possesion? 433?
Happy to hear you enjoyed the video! If you want to play a possesion game, I always like a 433 or a 4231. Great central pressence while also stretching the pitch with the wingers out wide
I like to use a back 3 on my teams, and it doesn't matter what I do, I always get scored when the other team throws long balls. The 3 central defenders make so many mistakes it's unbelievable. In my current save I have a back 3 with Thiaw, Scalvini and Ajer (3 years into the save, so they are pretty good) and even with those names, they don't know how to follow ONE striker. Idk if it is a problem with the IA or what, but it's frustrating. I changed formation and used some of your tips and they actually work, it's pretty cool to win against a 4-3-3 just by making them tired themselves lol
Very happy to hear the video helped you beat 433 formations!
To be completely honest, defending throw ins is a nightmare. Often times your team doesn't set up how you designed it in your defending set pieces set up, so unfortunately there's not much you can do. Hopefully this is improved upon in FM24 with their set-pieces overhaul
Thanks a lot, Roan. I've been looking for a proper defensive/counter attack system and yours seems to be really interesting. I'll try it out. Is there a link to download them?
You're more than welcome buddy! Unfortunately I don't have a download link for these tactics, and I don't think I have them saved on my computer anymore. Hopefully you can recreate the ones you like based on the video, and if not you can always ask a question or two, as I'd be happy to help you out!
no worries. I will pause the video and create them. What tactic would you recommend against Guardiola's 4-3-3? The 4-2-3-1 DM wide or the 4-2-4 DM wide? I'm on FM23@@coachroan
I love roan he seems to love fm so much
But you know what I love more? Comments like this!
Awesome video! I wish you would have shown actual in game examples of this working because without that, this is only a theory.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it. The reason why I chose not to incorporate in game examples was to not focus on these particular tactics, as they are truly just examples. The important thing I wanted to emphasize was the tactical insight to understand how these formations worked, so you can then build/tweak your own tactic with that knowledge. Going more in-depth in the example tactics would have put more focus on those tactics specifcally, which isn't my goal really. Let me know if you agree with this thinking!
@@coachroan definitely understand and I really still enjoyed the video and did learn from it. You gained a sub from me.
@@mantorras7752 thanks man, always appreciate a good discussion on the videos! I'll try my best to keep earning that sub!
Top gedaan!
Thanks maat!
Hi coach, can you teach me more about opposition instructions with all formation like this ??!! please!
A video on opposition instructions is for sure coming the channel!
Thanks man, Very helpful. Did you manage to beat jurgen klopp's Liverpool? I don't understand how they're very hard to beat. 😂
You're welcome! I did indeed manage to beat Liverpool!
@@coachroani'm finally able to beat klopp's Liverpool, been trying for months now, even throw away a 2 - 0 lead with very defensive. They're monsters. This is very helpful 🙏
@@marjanhadiyan3412 congrays man! Taking down a team like Liverpool is certainly no easy task, so you can be proud of yourself!
Will you make how to beat 4411,4141 or how to beat tactics like tiki taka route one or counter attacks?
Future videos on how to beat certain formations/tactics are definitely on the list for potential videos, so keep your eyes on the channel!
Which would be best to counter Man City 433?
i stick with 3-2-5 transition from 4 back based formation still the best to cope any formation of any AI type of managers ❤
What is your formation to achieve that 325 in transition?
Creating that shape is definitely one of my favourite ways to attack this year, so I couldn't agree more!
I want to develop an old catenaccio system or a Jose Mourinho's Chelsea 15 goals conceded Premier League team. It would work perfect for my Fiorentina save, any recommendations?
As a small little tease, I might be posting videos on how to play like former teams/managers relatively soon, so keep your eyes on the channel!
For now, a Mourinho tactic would be all about defensive solidity and being dangerous on the attack. i would suggest keeping your defence compact by keeping your defensive lines close together, getting stuck in and playing high tempo counter attacking football. Look at roles like an AF, an IF and a Winger all on attack to create a dynamic attack on the counter
@@coachroan I would totally love to watch that type of content, I suggest that you can try to make small rebuilds 1 to max 3 years with those themed tactics to see them ingame also thanks for your suggestions, I'll definitely try them and fits perfect with Fiore's strong wing players González and Ikone 👍🏽*
@@andreecelis2093 Hmm combining it with a rebuild could be interesting... Thanks for the suggestion, will definitely take that on board!
I play a 5-3-2 with 6 units on attack and it works at all levels, from amateur to pro, and its an amazing underdog tactic. Everyone defends , everyone attacks, with a DLF and an AF, you can often see the DLF go help defend in the wings if needed, and a CB go wide to support the wingbacks and even cross if technically gifted. Generally, wingers cant defend or lack the mental attributes to make significant defensive contributions, hence, Mezzalas > Wingers. Most of the weaknesses pointed out on a 3 CB system pointed out on this video are negated by simply having a DLP on DM position or just a regular DM. its almost like having 4 CB or 3 CB and a BPD in front of them. The only real weakness is luck from set pieces and switch up plays really, I even invite the opposition to cross, so my CB's can head the ball to the DLP and initiate an immediate deadly counter , if the opponents are better or really fast up front, just drop the line and watch Counter-attack magic. From experience, which is subjective I must add, the central space right in front of defence is the most crucial area to control on FM23, the team that does it better, has the highest chance of winning the match, 2 strikers also works better than lonely striker. if you're interested in checking it out Coach Roan, i'd love to see what you think of it, I could send you the tactic file somewhere if you find the time. Good job on both the video and dissecting all the strengths and weaknesses of the popular formations. Last thing to add is, even if the tactics do work, teams that switch tactics often will struggle with tactical familiarity, so even if it makes sense on paper, the execution may fail because of this.
I'd love to have a look at your tactic! You can send it to me via on Twitter, or to my email, which you can find on the channel page
@@coachroan Just sent it via e-mail, hope you find it interesting, at first glance it looks very defensive, but its quite the opposite xD . Thats the default tactic, tweaks can be made depending on opposition.
@@diogocotrim9945 send you a reply as well!
I'm a beginner, because each team has different tactics, should I change my tactics for every game, or stick with one set of tactics? Should I consider the team's familiarity with the tactics and the players' role familiarity?
Your team's familiarity is quite important to maintain throughout the season. What I would advice is to make one or two "main" tactics that you train throughout the season, and then make slight adjustments based on the opponents formation and tactics
Great tutorial but can someone please tell me what tactics to use when your up against what the author as described in his description ie 4-4-2 4-3-2-1 3 at the back etc
The video tries to explain what you can do against these formations? Is there something that is still unclear for you? Maybe I can explain something in more detail if you want
@@coachroan ok thanks I’ll after watch it again but I never take owt in lol. Basically I just wanted to know what tactic to use for each formations your up against I’m better taking it in this way.
Cheers
Hey Coach!
Could you please help me with tactics?
I play 4-1-2-2-1 DM Wide.
I have a Cautious mentality.
I have Regroup when lost ball.
I have Low Block, Much Lower defence line, Much Less often trigger press, and Drop off in out of possession.
I play with CD-De and W-De from each side, defs have no any traits at all.
No tighter marking, as rare pressing as possible.
But my defs always try to press and that's where I concede most of the goals. What can I do to stop them to run forward?
Where on the field are your players pressing the opposition, and how is it exactly costing you goals? It's difficult to say without seeing the tactic in action, but even with these cautious tactics your players will at some point try and win the ball if they think they can get it, so perhaps your players simply don't have the defensive quality to stay solid in a tactic like this
@@coachroan I mean, they just "jump" from the line to press player, when they, as you perfectly described, "think they can get it". Sometimes it happens in the midfield area, sometimes a little bit lower, but still too high for CB
@@drews_doesnt_often_sing in that case I think your players don't have the defensive awareness to stay in the defensive formation. Maybe try a bit more of balanced approach?
@@coachroan yeah, I am in search of my tactic this season. It was 4-3-3, 4-2-4, now it's 3-4-3 2 DM Wide.
All these formations with direct pass and counterattacks, because we are underdogs in low league. So I can't hope that short passing will work well here.
Thank you for advice! Awesome videos, I'd love to see the new ones
@@drews_doesnt_often_sing a 343 2 DMs sounds great for some direct, vertical counter attacking! Thanks for the kind words as well, new videos should be coming to the channel starting next weekend!
Be better if you added time stamps. Just feedback other then that, good work 👏
Feedback is always welcome, especially very valid feedback like this! Timestamps should be added now, thanks for bringing it up!
Keep up the good hard work champ. Start playing this game and it’s helping a lot. Just seem to struggle all the time against the big teams 😭
@@joshb4485 not to self-promote to much, but I do have a video on the channel specifically going into tips for when you're a smaller team. And don't worry, especially if you're just starting out the game can be very challenging. I think everyone started out with a lot of losses and even a sacking or two. You just have to learn from every loss, gather as much information from videos and blogs etc., and before you know it you'll be winning trophies left right and center!
14:24 i died with this xDDD
Coach Roan is what manu needs
Well they had the right idea with bald Dutch managers, they just got the wrong one!
Manage to beat Lazio (4-0) Juve (4-0) Milan (2-1) straight 3 Game week with your tactic. Meet Juventus 4 time in 1 season , beat them 3 time the with 3+ goal. Btw I'm still playing with FM21 Napoli save. Currently running in 2nd season with leading Seria A & meet Liverpool in final UCL in 2weeks.
that's one hell of an achievement, respect! How did the UCL final go (if you already played it)
@@coachroan Win UCL Final 3-1 vs 4-3-3 Liverpool using your 4-4-2 counter formation (2.64 xG) & win Seria A with 7 pts gap. Thanks for inspiration bro
@@wizt098 congrats! happy to help you get some inspiration, but that UCL win is all you! Now, are you going to stay with Napoli and dominate the leagues, or look for another challenge?
@@coachroan just finish top 4 EPL with Leceister.Manage to beat all top 6 at Home. Appreciate u can make tactic facing ten man & tactic ten man vs 11 player.
@@wizt098 Looks like your keeping the great achievements going! Winning against the top 6 in England is no joke.
A video for what to do when you go a man down is also a great suggestion, definitely going onto the list of potential future videos! Thanks you my excellent friend!
at the end of the day its depen on our players
That's definitely true as well, as a tactic is only as good as how well your players can execute it!
you...yyyou .... whhhh.... why are there band-aids on the dogs butt?
Really liked the concept of the video, but not the execution.
All your tactics miss something that it's pretty fundamental to FM tactic building, some miss forward movement partnerships with your striker, some miss defensive pressure on the flanks, some lack solidity, some are flat out too risky etc.
The tactics provided in the video are meant as truly example tactics trying to highlight the tactical principle in question, they're not meant to be fully optimized ready to use tactics. I highly encourage you to take one of the tactics and tweak them to prevent the weaknesses that you see in them! That's also the beauty of FM I think, looking at tactical principles and finding weaknesses that you can then cover up!
@@coachroan But the thing is, you are already building the bases of a tactic. Why not do it in a way that follows FM’s principals?
@@lourencoteles8414 for every example tactic, I want to put the emphasis on the tactical principle/weakness for that specific tactic. That's where the focus goes for each of these examples, instead of building the most optimized tactics
@@coachroan I'm may have not explain myself properly. I'm not talking about optimization, rather talking about principals. If the foundation isn't right, there's no possible optimization.
@@lourencoteles8414 in that case I'm going to have to disagree with you, as I truly do believe that all the tactics provided have at least a solid foundation from which to build on.
But you're absolutely welcome to disagree with me! That's the beauty of making tactics and FM in general. Everyone has their own way at looking at tactics, and everyone will have their own opinions on how to build them
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Thanks for this, i hate playing teams with 3 at the back, now am more confident lol
You're absolutely welcome, let me know how your next games against a 3 at the back go!
@@coachroan Piss easy now lol. Thanks again