For current pricing of the Dualtron Thunder click here: bit.ly/Tim-Dualtron-Thunder For current pricing of the KAABO WOLF WARRIOR 11 click here: bit.ly/Tims-Wolf11
Hey Tim... wanted to get some advice... I’m 6’2” and 350 lbs. All 3 of these list 330 as the max load. Would I be ok riding them? Also, I’ve looked at the Emove cruiser and it’s max load of 352lbs; but I’m worried that it won’t have enough power. Any suggestions? ( I’m not looking to spend over $3000, and there doesn’t seem to be any choices.)
Hi Brian, great questions...so if you have a flat terrain and you're looking to basically go around 20mph/32kph then the Cruiser would be a good fit. I'm only 6' tall and found all of these perfectly fine to ride...the Dualtron stem height was lower than the Wolf and Zero...sadly I don't keep up on the pricing but if you found a Wolf Warrior II ..I think you would be quite happy...but as I mentioned if weight is an issue (lifting it up stairs etc.) then the Cruiser might be a better fit...as to max weight...I'm not really sure...they all seem really well made the best made scooter of 2021 is a category I might add to next year's review video...but I actually think the Dualtron is the best made which matters the heavier you are the more wear and tear you're going to put on it....hope that helps a bit :) I'm actually going to be doing a collab video with a rider/TH-camr that has put 20,000 miles on his Dualtron...so longevity is awesome :)
Do you know where or who sells replacement scooter stems, I was thinking of cutting one alittle shorter to fit me better being 5'3 and owning a zero10x..
I actually don't know...but I'll ask in my next video if someone knows :) ...also I would try it out as it's not super high...the Kaboo for example is quite a bit taller...you might try it first before you get it trimmed :)
Great video review. I'm a big guy too and I'm 6'2. Not sure how tall you are....how was the handlebar height between the 3. I'm especially looking at the wolf. Are the bars too low?
great question John...I'm only 6 foot tall....I actually wouldn't have even noticed that the Dualtron was lower than the other two...it's just when you ride one after the other you notice these things.....I think you'll be fine ....they're all excellent...I probably would choose the Dualtron...but that's just me and what I would look for in a scooter in the city...hope that helps ;)
That's a really good question...my memory on this isn't great but I think the Wolf Warrior II was the shortest...sadly I can't check until next week ....but if you can wait until then I'll bring my trusty tape measure in and measure them for you :) reply below if that would help :)...p.s. I'm only 6' tall and they were all comfortable...I think it really depends on what you're planning on doing most of the time on the scooter...off-roading, cruising, etc :)
I will be getting the Wolf Warrior X Pro soon. It's dual 1,100 watt motors 75 pounds Fast long lange 60 volt 28 amp hour battery. I like the bigger scooters but they weight a lot more.
Hey buddy Thank You so much for doing these videos I’m researching every scooter from $2000.00 to $3500.00 taking my time and I am so happy I’m 6ft tall 307lbs so I’m loving these videos STAY SAFE AND GOD BLESS
Thanks Tim, it is really great to see a bigger guy like yourself testing scooters out. We are not all stick thin so you are giving valuable information to help in making a scooter choice.
I subscribed and I liked :) I have a question. I can buy a used wolf Warrior X at fluid free ride for 1600 or I can buy a wolf Warrior 11 on Facebook marketplace for 1800. I've done a little research and it seems like the wolf 11 will be a better value for me because I am a bigger and taller girl than most. What I'm afraid of if I don't know too much about scooters and of course I'll test drive the 11 but what kind of problems could I run into and are they pretty expensive to fix? The wolf Warrior x has a 60 day warranty through fluid but Facebook obviously there is no warranty. I can get a warrior 11 new for $3000 and a used one for $1800 I really don't want to pass it up
honestly, I think you'll be happy with either...I haven't tried the X yet....but can you let me know what you think of it? I'm guessing it's smaller than the 11...I like that there's a warranty though if you go through Fluid
@@TimsElectric thanks for replying back! Hope you and the family are doing good:) I test drove the warrior x and it’s feels a lot more nimble and lighter. It felt plenty powerful and I k is I would be happy with it. Getting the 11 used I feel like could be an amazing value that I’m having trouble passing up. The owner sent me a video of it and he showed me it can charge properly. I’ll test drive it this Friday and have done some research as to what to look for when buying a used scooter. What’s drawing me to the 11 is the longer range.
@@Dreamfoodreviews All well here :) thanks for asking...personally range doesn't usually become an issue unless you're doing trail rides or something...but typical use scenarios usually don't push the distance I need to travel....of course an Emove Cruiser with gobs of range is good but I find with long range batteries I just don't charge it as often...it doesn't impact my use...if that makes sense :)
Great video, man. I was going to buy the Dualtron Thunder. However, after watching your video and do some research, I will buy the Zero 11x. I’m 6’2, 245 lbs. The money that I will “save” from purchasing the Zero 11x instead of the thunder will be used to buy some gear to ride safely and anti-theft lockers (my bike was stolen at the DFW, TX, after two days I bought it.) Keep it up with the excellent work. I really appreciate people like you out there making good content and helping us to make the best decision before investing huge amounts of money in these vehicles.
I am new to your channel. In another video of yours I mentioned having a $1,500 budget for a scooter but as I watch this video I see I may need to save for another year and double or more my budget. These look and sound like what I am looking for. Sound was impossible to tell because of the music. I would have loved to hear how each motor sounded going up that hill. You can always tell how strong a motor is by how it sounds going up a hill and putting that extra strain on the motor. I am hoping other videos I watch do away with the music so I can actually hear the electric scooter. Possibly a GoPro mounted on the helmet at an angle to be able to show you riding the scooter and how it reacts to you going over bumps, hills, and straight aways. I watched another video of yours comparing an ebike to an electric scooter. You mentioned how each one handle bumps on a bumpy road way. Or walkway(cannot remember which) so would have been nice to see and hear that portion to visualize what is being discussed and compared. So,no I’m not a fan of playing music during electric anything reviews . Ebikes,escooters, or even electric cars. I cannot tell what is being reviewed if I cannot hear anything. But I did get enough to tell that i really liked how that zero 11x handles a bigger guy like me at 260 lbs . Just means a lot more saving. ....of to find more of your reviews of more of these electric scooters.
The 11x is an amazing machine. I'll be doing more reviews of it and the 10x and 10x 60v and 10x Ltd edition, later this spring. Music is a thing I like to add but get what you mean...I have added a "Hill of Death" so people can hear the motor and as I experiment and improve my EV film making skills and of course add cameras a third camera may indeed make it's way into another position...I keep learning and experimenting and love doing it :) ...thanks for the feedback Cheers
I truly appreciate your reviews, especially from a "big guy's" perspective. I am 6'2" 240ish pound dude who is on the fence about which scooter to buy. My use for a scooter would be primarily as a means of entertaining myself on the weekends or after a day's work during the week. The area I live in is a bit hilly, so that's a factor I must consider. Most streets have sidewalks. Anyway, I want to spend less than $1000 USD.
Typically for us bigger guys, I recommend twin motor scooters...but I happen to ride on a single motor scooter (Zero 9)...you might also look at the Leger and Emove Touring...I have videos on all of them :) I'm thinking of filming a Zero 9 vs Zero 8 vs Emove Touring vs Leger in the next few days as single motor (around $1000) is an interesting price point. :)
I think the dualtron thunder is the best electric scooter ? Because I bought one two days ago it is a monster. The Dualtron thunder Climb 45° hill under the bridge no problem .
@@fishinman69 I have tried a few and only comment on the ones I've ridden...I think that's what you were saying...but looking forward to trying others this spring :)
great question Dean! I actually made a video about my decision here: th-cam.com/video/7X__rwIO9KA/w-d-xo.html Check it out and let me know what you think...this Spring I'll be doing a Zero 9 after 2000kms review :)
I’m 6’6”. Was thinking of the Zero 11x as it seems like the better fit for a taller guy. You’re in Victoria? I also live in BC but in the central interior. I assume Victoria must be a very escooter friendly city with laws and such. :)
@SpazTek Warrior I really liked the Zero 11x, it has a stem height of 39" but the Wolf Warrior GT Pro has a stem height of 40" They're both crazy powerful machines :) Victoria is awesome for scootering around :) but we don't have any laws yet...maybe in the next couple of years. :) Let me know which one you go for :) Cheers Tim p.s. I did a review of the Wolf :)
@@TimsElectric Will check that one out … Is that the same as the Wolf King GT pro? I see your video for that with a 39” stem. The names of these seem to blend a bit :) Thanks for the reply. :)
Yes, the names blend for me too...I'm only 6' but I did find some scooters feel almost dangerous with the lower stem height. The Wolf King GT or sometimes with the Pro on the (same thing) I think is 40"...I checked on the Voro Website. Anyway, amazing machine...loads of power for going on the trails/roads and if you hit any hills...it just eats them up...so much power :)
I think that's a fair assessment Kevin...I think the Zero 11x is just super power with such high voltage and battery size and delivery...when you hit the beans it just leaps forwards :) like a carnival ride or riding in Tesla :)
Hey Tim can you do a comparison zero 10x 60v- kaboo mantis pro- nanrobot d6- as there all very similar scooters and would be great to here your opinion on then and can't seem to find this sort of comparison on line anyway Many thanks
Cool idea! I don't have a Mantis or Narobot access yet...but I need to reach out to a bunch of Scooter Manufacturers to demo their machines :) hang tight :)
BC looks so beautiful. I have family in Montreal and i thought it was beautiful out there but being near the water is amazing. great video keep it up!!
Body size and weight do the matter , thanks for sharing it . Waiting for real range test I know from other guys when you start using throttle at maximum your range should decrease then 25km will be the maximum range. Riding with limit to 20mph / 30kmph 45km range should be possible.
I think you'll be fine...it was just between them all the Dualtron was lower...still an amazing machine and i probably wouldn't have noticed had I not tried the others :)
@@fctryoffetsh39 oh i see :) I'm fortunate to have some spots here on the island I can escape the people :) Do you have logging roads in KY? or trails in the hills? It' s a beautiful state to drive through :)
I am over six foot and 120kg, I tested a Dualtron Thunder yesterday thinking it would be the perfect scooter for my size. I found the deck too short and there is no rear foot rest like I am used to on my Zero 10X. The dealer could not get the soft start setting to work and the scooter seemed to take off very aggressively lifting the front wheel with even the smallest amount of throttle.
@@TimsElectric I really like the Zero brand, my wife has a Zero10 single motor but she is half my weight and seems to be able to go further than me. I have looked at the Zero 11 and feel it has gotten too big for what electric commuter scooters are supposed to be. I would not like to try and carry one up stairs. Where I live in Brisbane Australia electric scooters are allowed on busy footpaths and seeing these giant powerful scooters zooming amongst ever resentful pedestrians I am worried it could bring us all undone. Like yourself I don't want to go super fast but do like to be able to maintain speed up hills. Thank you for the excellent videos.
I really like the Zero 10....I guess for me I'm resigned to the fact that the occasional hill isn't such a big deal vs the convenience of being able to fold it up and carry it up a bunch of floors...but if you have a safe garage for storage and charging perhaps a dual motor might be a better option for you....so many options right now :)... I am a fan of the range of the Emove Cruiser...I sound like a Cruiser fan boy lol
Kaboo wolf 2 I seen a dude go 64 miles in range I also seen the vessett11+ beat that scooter in a race then I watch the vessett 10+ gold and blk beat both of them in a race was pretty dope watching them race
Great stuff man...your reviews are on point! Subbed! Would love to see you do the comparo I keep hoping someone will do: all titan 8 clones/type scooters. Z10X vs Techlife X7 vs Kaabo Mantis/M Pro vs. Apollo Pro vs. Turbowheel Lightning vs. Nan D6+ etc etc all versions... Maybe minus the ludicrous pro... Cheers!
Thanks for great videos on scooters! I want to know how they differ when riding tight corners fitting smaller passages. I’m a big guy to and awaiting a delivery of a 10x but I’m already looking at these beasts 😀
Good question Daniel! Actually I'm going to be doing a comparison of the 10x next I think (probably against the 10x Ltd.) and....I'm not sure maybe the Zero 8x :) enjoy the 10x...amazing scooter :) As to tight corners the Dualtron Thunder was by far the easier one to manage (lower deck and more nimble)
@@TimsElectric I see, every one doesn’t have such nice and open roads as you have in beautiful BC, I need to go around parked cars and pedestrians everywhere I ride. I bought the 10x for navigating off-road on forest roads and maybe do som jumping due to the great suspension it has. Regarding comparison off the 10x and the limited edition maybe you can show all the different components and make a list off how you can modify your regular 10x to make it a limited one 😀 I have no where to buy the limited one so it would be grate to know if it’s possible too upgrade it. I have the 60a 2400w version of the 10x with hydraulic breaks
@@mrmcbryde2206 impossible for me to say as I haven't tried the King yet,...but hope to soon ;) when I do I'll do a proper big guy review :)...for what it's worth the 11x is fastest scooter I've tried...the acceleration is amazing and the ride is awesome :)
I’m 6’ and 240LB I purchase my first Escooter the Wolf warrior 11 about a weeks ago and I gotta say it is Not recommended for beginners it is way too powerful and can go up any hills with easy it’s absolutely monster lol
lol...yes indeed it's a monster....you can temper it with one motor and on eco I suppose but super fun and won best of 2020 in my year end review in January :)
The Zero 11x has quite a price tag. Good to hear that the value is there as well. In fact it seems that it's also in for the win as the least expensive of the three.
@Amelia Rhodes You are correct. But the thing is, you do not buy these electric kickscooters for the price, most people purchase these for the quality. Especially the Dualtron line-up. I for one have a DT Eagle Pro and been using it as a commuter for my 25 miles daily route. Just waiting for my DT Storm. Kaabo's are okay. Zero's are good too I guess. But if you are after the quality and performance, Dualtron is the way to go. (RION and Weped are also something to look into.)
Absolutely Leigh....both would be amazing to try out..I loved the Wolf II and look forward to trying out the King this year :)...I do need to reach out to Inokim for a demo again :) My channel might be too small :)
@@TimsElectric Pair up with other creators mate, i reckon they'd be happy to do content with you, plus it's a chance for you both to expand into a bigger community & hopefully more subscribers, if you don't know one near by reach out to them and arrange combined reviews, have a chat to ESG, those guys are pretty laid back. I love the idea of the Inokim OXO, the other bigger bulkier scooters can be to large to take a lot of places but the oxo isn't, plus the wolf warrior and 11x do have that motorbike look about them and get unwanted attention sometimes because scooter laws can be really strict in some places.
@@leighgray8537 thanks so much for your suggestion of chatting with other TH-camrs :) ESG are awesome...I'll reach out :) ...as to Inokim OXO, I'm interested in trying that out too :). Interesting, I hadn't thought about the style of scooter getting extra attention in countries that have strict laws...thanks as always :) take care :)
@@TimsElectric i went from the Zero 9 to the OX Hero and the difference regarding speed, acceleration, stability, suspension and comfort is quite big. The build quality is miles ahead of any other scooter i''ve seen. Just the range during the winter is not so good . I hope i can do more than 25 km when the temperature is atleast 15-20C. But unlocked it and doing 50kmh.
@@TimsElectric Nah, it's not similar price. Quite more expensive. In the EU (Bulgaria) if the Zero 9 is 800 EUR, the the Inokim OX Hero is 1400 EUR. However I've bought them both second hand for really good prices. inokim.com/models/ox/#ox
Atm i think ill be choosing from WolfWarrior and Thunder(if i get a discount on this) They aint same price point. And i do need better range scooter so battery lasts longer with 30km drives each day. Dont like onThunder - it doesnt have anything that should be on scooter out of the shop. Its already expensive, plus you need few hundred euros extra to get lights/horn/decent kickstand and handle/leg rest. yet wolfwarrior has it all out of the fatory and costs much less. Plus even tho ill be riding walks mainly, they are full of potholes and cracks, so offroad should be a btter fit for me. Would be great to know what range you get on these scoots in eco mode without some extreme hill climping or tire burning. Im a bit lighter, but still in same weight class where not many scoots will fit us :)
Mārtiņš , thanks so much for letting me know what you're up to...I really liked the WW11...it was smooth...bit cheaper but solid and more than enough power for a big guy like me ...range tests might happen as the weather improves :)....looks like the weather warms up this week coming...can't wait :) :)
Dude im still waiting for your review for kaabo mantis pro 60v 25aH vs kaabo wolfwarrior 11 60v 25aH Im planning to buy a scooter for my work I need 40km per day mon-fri
For current pricing of the Dualtron Thunder click here: bit.ly/Tim-Dualtron-Thunder
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BIG GUY LIKE ME AWESOME THANKS FOR ALL THE REVIEWS BROTHER. KEEP THEM COMING.
More to come Juan!
Awesome reviewer. Best on TH-cam. I have the 11X. Pleased to hear that's the best. Well done mate great descriptions.
thank you...appreciate it :)
Hey Tim... wanted to get some advice... I’m 6’2” and 350 lbs. All 3 of these list 330 as the max load. Would I be ok riding them? Also, I’ve looked at the Emove cruiser and it’s max load of 352lbs; but I’m worried that it won’t have enough power. Any suggestions? ( I’m not looking to spend over $3000, and there doesn’t seem to be any choices.)
Hi Brian, great questions...so if you have a flat terrain and you're looking to basically go around 20mph/32kph then the Cruiser would be a good fit. I'm only 6' tall and found all of these perfectly fine to ride...the Dualtron stem height was lower than the Wolf and Zero...sadly I don't keep up on the pricing but if you found a Wolf Warrior II ..I think you would be quite happy...but as I mentioned if weight is an issue (lifting it up stairs etc.) then the Cruiser might be a better fit...as to max weight...I'm not really sure...they all seem really well made the best made scooter of 2021 is a category I might add to next year's review video...but I actually think the Dualtron is the best made which matters the heavier you are the more wear and tear you're going to put on it....hope that helps a bit :) I'm actually going to be doing a collab video with a rider/TH-camr that has put 20,000 miles on his Dualtron...so longevity is awesome :)
Do you know where or who sells replacement scooter stems, I was thinking of cutting one alittle shorter to fit me better being 5'3 and owning a zero10x..
I actually don't know...but I'll ask in my next video if someone knows :) ...also I would try it out as it's not super high...the Kaboo for example is quite a bit taller...you might try it first before you get it trimmed :)
@@TimsElectric yeah, that is why I want a second one so I wouldn't ruin it
@@geestang2662 ohhh lol...next level genius :)
Great video review. I'm a big guy too and I'm 6'2. Not sure how tall you are....how was the handlebar height between the 3. I'm especially looking at the wolf. Are the bars too low?
great question John...I'm only 6 foot tall....I actually wouldn't have even noticed that the Dualtron was lower than the other two...it's just when you ride one after the other you notice these things.....I think you'll be fine ....they're all excellent...I probably would choose the Dualtron...but that's just me and what I would look for in a scooter in the city...hope that helps ;)
I'm 6'4". Which dual motor scooter has the highest deck to handle bar distance? Thanks!
That's a really good question...my memory on this isn't great but I think the Wolf Warrior II was the shortest...sadly I can't check until next week ....but if you can wait until then I'll bring my trusty tape measure in and measure them for you :) reply below if that would help :)...p.s. I'm only 6' tall and they were all comfortable...I think it really depends on what you're planning on doing most of the time on the scooter...off-roading, cruising, etc :)
I will be getting the Wolf Warrior X Pro soon.
It's dual 1,100 watt motors 75 pounds
Fast long lange
60 volt 28 amp hour battery.
I like the bigger scooters but they weight a lot more.
sounds like an awesome scooter..I haven't reviewed one yet :)
Hey buddy Thank You so much for doing these videos I’m researching every scooter from $2000.00 to $3500.00 taking my time and I am so happy I’m 6ft tall 307lbs so I’m loving these videos STAY SAFE AND GOD BLESS
Glad to help Shawn :) :) Stay safe...more videos coming :) :)
Is the dualtron good for someone who is 5'10 maybe 11 or is it too short ? And is it stable?
it's an excellent machine :) I had no issues with it and I'm 6' :)
Cheers
Tim
Thanks for the video! I am also a heavy rider and ive been looking for a good comparison that best fits my scenario!
Glad it was helpful Brandon! :)
Thanks Tim, it is really great to see a bigger guy like yourself testing scooters out. We are not all stick thin so you are giving valuable information to help in making a scooter choice.
Glad you enjoyed it! I appreciate it Nick :) Love making these videos too :)
Nice video Tim, comparison's can be trick, keep up the good work! Great point about temperature affecting range!
Thanks 👍things we know as Canadians is how the cold affects everything lol :)
I subscribed and I liked :) I have a question. I can buy a used wolf Warrior X at fluid free ride for 1600 or I can buy a wolf Warrior 11 on Facebook marketplace for 1800. I've done a little research and it seems like the wolf 11 will be a better value for me because I am a bigger and taller girl than most. What I'm afraid of if I don't know too much about scooters and of course I'll test drive the 11 but what kind of problems could I run into and are they pretty expensive to fix? The wolf Warrior x has a 60 day warranty through fluid but Facebook obviously there is no warranty. I can get a warrior 11 new for $3000 and a used one for $1800 I really don't want to pass it up
honestly, I think you'll be happy with either...I haven't tried the X yet....but can you let me know what you think of it? I'm guessing it's smaller than the 11...I like that there's a warranty though if you go through Fluid
@@TimsElectric thanks for replying back! Hope you and the family are doing good:) I test drove the warrior x and it’s feels a lot more nimble and lighter. It felt plenty powerful and I k is I would be happy with it. Getting the 11 used I feel like could be an amazing value that I’m having trouble passing up. The owner sent me a video of it and he showed me it can charge properly. I’ll test drive it this Friday and have done some research as to what to look for when buying a used scooter. What’s drawing me to the 11 is the longer range.
@@Dreamfoodreviews All well here :) thanks for asking...personally range doesn't usually become an issue unless you're doing trail rides or something...but typical use scenarios usually don't push the distance I need to travel....of course an Emove Cruiser with gobs of range is good but I find with long range batteries I just don't charge it as often...it doesn't impact my use...if that makes sense :)
Thanks for your test, your Kaboo's Controller probably was my company's product
Very cool 🤠
That was the best hill test I ever seen you do you flew 🆙 that hill with tha wolf 2 and zero 11
thank you :)
I like the bigger tires if feels nice.
The dual stem very stable the Wolf Warrior X and X Pro have turn singles and the best headlight.
and the loudest horn :)
Great video, man. I was going to buy the Dualtron Thunder. However, after watching your video and do some research, I will buy the Zero 11x. I’m 6’2, 245 lbs. The money that I will “save” from purchasing the Zero 11x instead of the thunder will be used to buy some gear to ride safely and anti-theft lockers (my bike was stolen at the DFW, TX, after two days I bought it.) Keep it up with the excellent work. I really appreciate people like you out there making good content and helping us to make the best decision before investing huge amounts of money in these vehicles.
sorry to hear about the bike theft Misael...that suxs :(....hope you love the Zero 11x...it's amazing :) :)
Really enjoyed your review. Thanks
Thanks for watching Mark!
I am new to your channel. In another video of yours I mentioned having a $1,500 budget for a scooter but as I watch this video I see I may need to save for another year and double or more my budget. These look and sound like what I am looking for. Sound was impossible to tell because of the music. I would have loved to hear how each motor sounded going up that hill. You can always tell how strong a motor is by how it sounds going up a hill and putting that extra strain on the motor. I am hoping other videos I watch do away with the music so I can actually hear the electric scooter. Possibly a GoPro mounted on the helmet at an angle to be able to show you riding the scooter and how it reacts to you going over bumps, hills, and straight aways.
I watched another video of yours comparing an ebike to an electric scooter. You mentioned how each one handle bumps on a bumpy road way. Or walkway(cannot remember which) so would have been nice to see and hear that portion to visualize what is being discussed and compared. So,no I’m not a fan of playing music during electric anything reviews . Ebikes,escooters, or even electric cars. I cannot tell what is being reviewed if I cannot hear anything. But I did get enough to tell that i really liked how that zero 11x handles a bigger guy like me at 260 lbs . Just means a lot more saving. ....of to find more of your reviews of more of these electric scooters.
The 11x is an amazing machine. I'll be doing more reviews of it and the 10x and 10x 60v and 10x Ltd edition, later this spring. Music is a thing I like to add but get what you mean...I have added a "Hill of Death" so people can hear the motor and as I experiment and improve my EV film making skills and of course add cameras a third camera may indeed make it's way into another position...I keep learning and experimenting and love doing it :) ...thanks for the feedback Cheers
I truly appreciate your reviews, especially from a "big guy's" perspective. I am 6'2" 240ish pound dude who is on the fence about which scooter to buy. My use for a scooter would be primarily as a means of entertaining myself on the weekends or after a day's work during the week. The area I live in is a bit hilly, so that's a factor I must consider. Most streets have sidewalks. Anyway, I want to spend less than $1000 USD.
Typically for us bigger guys, I recommend twin motor scooters...but I happen to ride on a single motor scooter (Zero 9)...you might also look at the Leger and Emove Touring...I have videos on all of them :) I'm thinking of filming a Zero 9 vs Zero 8 vs Emove Touring vs Leger in the next few days as single motor (around $1000) is an interesting price point. :)
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@@FabioMutone thanks so much for mentioning a brand I hadn't heard of ...2000W wow :)
@@TimsElectric yeah , is a great skooter! Try it😊
I think the dualtron thunder is the best electric scooter ? Because I bought one two days ago it is a monster. The Dualtron thunder Climb 45° hill under the bridge no problem .
it sure is awesome Tommy!! :)
Have you tried the other scooters to know that the thunder is the best?
@@fishinman69 I have tried a few and only comment on the ones I've ridden...I think that's what you were saying...but looking forward to trying others this spring :)
Have u still got the scooter if u do what problems have u got on it and is it stable?
is the height of the handlebar long enough for me on the wolf worrior II ,im 189cm i think my zero10x is exactly fine i dont want a shorter stem
HI Ted, sorry, I'll forgot to check..will try and remember today when I'm doing another review to measure it :)
With such good access to so many great scooters, how did you decide on the zero 9?
great question Dean! I actually made a video about my decision here: th-cam.com/video/7X__rwIO9KA/w-d-xo.html
Check it out and let me know what you think...this Spring I'll be doing a Zero 9 after 2000kms review :)
I’m 6’6”. Was thinking of the Zero 11x as it seems like the better fit for a taller guy.
You’re in Victoria?
I also live in BC but in the central interior.
I assume Victoria must be a very escooter friendly city with laws and such. :)
@SpazTek Warrior
I really liked the Zero 11x, it has a stem height of 39" but the Wolf Warrior GT Pro has a stem height of 40"
They're both crazy powerful machines :)
Victoria is awesome for scootering around :) but we don't have any laws yet...maybe in the next couple of years. :)
Let me know which one you go for :)
Cheers
Tim
p.s. I did a review of the Wolf :)
@@TimsElectric
Will check that one out …
Is that the same as the Wolf King GT pro? I see your video for that with a 39” stem. The names of these seem to blend a bit :)
Thanks for the reply. :)
Yes, the names blend for me too...I'm only 6' but I did find some scooters feel almost dangerous with the lower stem height. The Wolf King GT or sometimes with the Pro on the (same thing) I think is 40"...I checked on the Voro Website. Anyway, amazing machine...loads of power for going on the trails/roads and if you hit any hills...it just eats them up...so much power :)
@@TimsElectric
Thanks again!
@@spaztekwarrior happy to help :)
It seems like the Wolf was smoother acceleration than the 11x... Dualtron looks like a beast as well!
I think that's a fair assessment Kevin...I think the Zero 11x is just super power with such high voltage and battery size and delivery...when you hit the beans it just leaps forwards :) like a carnival ride or riding in Tesla :)
Hey Tim can you do a comparison zero 10x 60v- kaboo mantis pro- nanrobot d6- as there all very similar scooters and would be great to here your opinion on then and can't seem to find this sort of comparison on line anyway
Many thanks
Cool idea! I don't have a Mantis or Narobot access yet...but I need to reach out to a bunch of Scooter Manufacturers to demo their machines :) hang tight :)
BC looks so beautiful. I have family in Montreal and i thought it was beautiful out there but being near the water is amazing. great video keep it up!!
It really is Philly! thank you :)
Body size and weight do the matter , thanks for sharing it . Waiting for real range test I know from other guys when you start using throttle at maximum your range should decrease then 25km will be the maximum range. Riding with limit to 20mph / 30kmph 45km range should be possible.
mass mattes :) :) indeed
Thanks for the review!
Glad it was helpful! Cheers more to come :)
im 6,3 do you think the dualtron thunder is too short for me?
I think you'll be fine...it was just between them all the Dualtron was lower...still an amazing machine and i probably wouldn't have noticed had I not tried the others :)
Where do you ride man subbed good videos,I have bike parks but don't see how people can go 50 mph in a 15 mph
thanks for the Sub :)
I ride on the bike trails and then back trails for going faster...far away from traffic and bikes :)
@@TimsElectric ok thanks I just do t want to get it then get in trouble I'm in ky and really nothing up here🤣🤣
@@fctryoffetsh39 oh i see :) I'm fortunate to have some spots here on the island I can escape the people :) Do you have logging roads in KY? or trails in the hills? It' s a beautiful state to drive through :)
@@TimsElectric yup freeman lake I'll find somewhere this is cool I'm loving the q1 by solar,rugged tough and I'd just cruise it
@lvwldpggybckrds48 I haven't heard of Solar Q1 yet...I'll google it :) or do share where you bought it :)
I am over six foot and 120kg, I tested a Dualtron Thunder yesterday thinking it would be the perfect scooter for my size. I found the deck too short and there is no rear foot rest like I am used to on my Zero 10X. The dealer could not get the soft start setting to work and the scooter seemed to take off very aggressively lifting the front wheel with even the smallest amount of throttle.
Thanks for sharing Steve! Have you tried the 11x?
@@TimsElectric I really like the Zero brand, my wife has a Zero10 single motor but she is half my weight and seems to be able to go further than me. I have looked at the Zero 11 and feel it has gotten too big for what electric commuter scooters are supposed to be. I would not like to try and carry one up stairs. Where I live in Brisbane Australia electric scooters are allowed on busy footpaths and seeing these giant powerful scooters zooming amongst ever resentful pedestrians I am worried it could bring us all undone. Like yourself I don't want to go super fast but do like to be able to maintain speed up hills. Thank you for the excellent videos.
I really like the Zero 10....I guess for me I'm resigned to the fact that the occasional hill isn't such a big deal vs the convenience of being able to fold it up and carry it up a bunch of floors...but if you have a safe garage for storage and charging perhaps a dual motor might be a better option for you....so many options right now :)... I am a fan of the range of the Emove Cruiser...I sound like a Cruiser fan boy lol
overall!!
ZERO 11X
DUALTRON THUNDER
KAABO WOLF WARRIOR
an awesome top three for sure :)
Kaboo wolf 2 I seen a dude go 64 miles in range I also seen the vessett11+ beat that scooter in a race then I watch the vessett 10+ gold and blk beat both of them in a race was pretty dope watching them race
love to see some live scooter racing :)
Great stuff man...your reviews are on point! Subbed!
Would love to see you do the comparo I keep hoping someone will do: all titan 8 clones/type scooters. Z10X vs Techlife X7 vs Kaabo Mantis/M Pro vs. Apollo Pro vs. Turbowheel Lightning vs. Nan D6+ etc etc all versions... Maybe minus the ludicrous pro... Cheers!
Thanks for the sub! Great recommendations...lots of options there, thank you...stay tuned :) :)
What city are you in? Looks like a great place fot scooters.
Victoria, British Columbia Canada Justin :)
I looked at these but ended up going with flj speedbike 7000w, I love it 😀
wow...that sounds awesome :) :) :)
@@TimsElectric going to do some videos myself, il send you link when uploaded
@@roofingcontractors3349 awesome ...happy shooting :)
That's not a scooter
Thanks for great videos on scooters!
I want to know how they differ when riding tight corners fitting smaller passages. I’m a big guy to and awaiting a delivery of a 10x but I’m already looking at these beasts 😀
Good question Daniel! Actually I'm going to be doing a comparison of the 10x next I think (probably against the 10x Ltd.) and....I'm not sure maybe the Zero 8x :) enjoy the 10x...amazing scooter :) As to tight corners the Dualtron Thunder was by far the easier one to manage (lower deck and more nimble)
@@TimsElectric I see, every one doesn’t have such nice and open roads as you have in beautiful BC, I need to go around parked cars and pedestrians everywhere I ride. I bought the 10x for navigating off-road on forest roads and maybe do som jumping due to the great suspension it has.
Regarding comparison off the 10x and the limited edition maybe you can show all the different components and make a list off how you can modify your regular 10x to make it a limited one 😀 I have no where to buy the limited one so it would be grate to know if it’s possible too upgrade it.
I have the 60a 2400w version of the 10x with hydraulic breaks
Great idea Daniel...was thinking of comparing the two...but will see if I can answer some of your questions about upgrading when I shoot it :)
Should got the zero 11x bro
Would be nice to see a comparison between the zero 11x and the new Kaabo wolf king
that would be awesome...hope to get a chance to review the King first later this year :)
Which one of the 2 you think is better. Not necessarily faster but strong and more in distance
@@mrmcbryde2206 impossible for me to say as I haven't tried the King yet,...but hope to soon ;) when I do I'll do a proper big guy review :)...for what it's worth the 11x is fastest scooter I've tried...the acceleration is amazing and the ride is awesome :)
@@TimsElectric I went on a purchased one today. Thanks.
@@mrmcbryde2206 it's a beast...hope you love it :) :)
The ride footage is great, so smooth! How do you do it?
fimi palm and helmet mount :0 thanks for asking and glad you like it :)
The website for the zero 11x says it can go up to 90 miles, at least in eco-mode
pretty amazing ..I haven't done a range test on this one. :)
I’m 6’ and 240LB I purchase my first Escooter the Wolf warrior 11 about a weeks ago and I gotta say it is Not recommended for beginners it is way too powerful and can go up any hills with easy it’s absolutely monster lol
lol...yes indeed it's a monster....you can temper it with one motor and on eco I suppose but super fun and won best of 2020 in my year end review in January :)
The Zero 11x has quite a price tag. Good to hear that the value is there as well. In fact it seems that it's also in for the win as the least expensive of the three.
you're right Amelia :) big bucks :)
@Amelia Rhodes You are correct. But the thing is, you do not buy these electric kickscooters for the price, most people purchase these for the quality. Especially the Dualtron line-up. I for one have a DT Eagle Pro and been using it as a commuter for my 25 miles daily route. Just waiting for my DT Storm. Kaabo's are okay. Zero's are good too I guess. But if you are after the quality and performance, Dualtron is the way to go. (RION and Weped are also something to look into.)
so looking forward to trying a Rion lol soon :) fingers crossed :)..quality is so key...for sure :)
Can you do a comparison of the Zero 8x vs Mantis 8 pro?
a mantis 8 pro....I'll find out if they have one available :) :) great idea...the Zero 8x need to be compared...maybe to the 10x too?
Inokim OXO comparison would be awesome, or the kaabo wolf king.
Absolutely Leigh....both would be amazing to try out..I loved the Wolf II and look forward to trying out the King this year :)...I do need to reach out to Inokim for a demo again :) My channel might be too small :)
@@TimsElectric Pair up with other creators mate, i reckon they'd be happy to do content with you, plus it's a chance for you both to expand into a bigger community & hopefully more subscribers, if you don't know one near by reach out to them and arrange combined reviews, have a chat to ESG, those guys are pretty laid back. I love the idea of the Inokim OXO, the other bigger bulkier scooters can be to large to take a lot of places but the oxo isn't, plus the wolf warrior and 11x do have that motorbike look about them and get unwanted attention sometimes because scooter laws can be really strict in some places.
@@leighgray8537 thanks so much for your suggestion of chatting with other TH-camrs :) ESG are awesome...I'll reach out :) ...as to Inokim OXO, I'm interested in trying that out too :). Interesting, I hadn't thought about the style of scooter getting extra attention in countries that have strict laws...thanks as always :) take care :)
Will you do a review if the Inokim OX, maybe the OX Hero? Thanks.
excellent idea...I don't have those to try but will reach out.... thank you so much :)
@@TimsElectric i went from the Zero 9 to the OX Hero and the difference regarding speed, acceleration, stability, suspension and comfort is quite big. The build quality is miles ahead of any other scooter i''ve seen. Just the range during the winter is not so good . I hope i can do more than 25 km when the temperature is atleast 15-20C. But unlocked it and doing 50kmh.
wow,....sounds like a blast...similar pricing to the Zero 9? send me a link and I'll check it out :)
@@TimsElectric Nah, it's not similar price. Quite more expensive. In the EU (Bulgaria) if the Zero 9 is 800 EUR, the the Inokim OX Hero is 1400 EUR. However I've bought them both second hand for really good prices. inokim.com/models/ox/#ox
@AKS13V thanks for sharing the link...I'll reach out to them to see if I can get a demo unit :)...sound idea buying a used one :)
A lot of power more than I need The 11X is nice so is the Wolf
they sure are :)
Atm i think ill be choosing from WolfWarrior and Thunder(if i get a discount on this) They aint same price point. And i do need better range scooter so battery lasts longer with 30km drives each day. Dont like onThunder - it doesnt have anything that should be on scooter out of the shop. Its already expensive, plus you need few hundred euros extra to get lights/horn/decent kickstand and handle/leg rest. yet wolfwarrior has it all out of the fatory and costs much less. Plus even tho ill be riding walks mainly, they are full of potholes and cracks, so offroad should be a btter fit for me.
Would be great to know what range you get on these scoots in eco mode without some extreme hill climping or tire burning. Im a bit lighter, but still in same weight class where not many scoots will fit us :)
Mārtiņš , thanks so much for letting me know what you're up to...I really liked the WW11...it was smooth...bit cheaper but solid and more than enough power for a big guy like me ...range tests might happen as the weather improves :)....looks like the weather warms up this week coming...can't wait :) :)
You gotta do a Storm review now!
@Jedi Radek Crif great idea :)
my gransons love it
How old are they? it's a big machine ;) :) super fun though :)
great video , however they all look like a blast
They are for sure Gordon :)
11x 72v has power but no range so depends what u want range or power
true words indeed...not a range machine...but wow...power :)
I hear scooters are illegal to ship if they go over 20 m p h,so company's put a limiters so they can ship
interesting...I haven't seen that :)
@@TimsElectric well I hear it's in america don't know where your at
@lvwldpggybckrds48 I'm in Canada :) :) on Vancouver Island :)
@@TimsElectric ok😁
It's wolf warrior 11 not two
eleven?
As in 11 inch wheels
ohhhhh.....hand hits side of head....like Zero 11, 10 etc :) thank you :) :)
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:) cheers
Dude im still waiting for your review for kaabo mantis pro 60v 25aH vs kaabo wolfwarrior 11 60v 25aH
Im planning to buy a scooter for my work
I need 40km per day mon-fri
haven't forgotten...soon as i can...I don't know if they have a mantis in stock...but if they do ...I'm on it :)
BULLS EYE
thank you :)
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