War veteran here. Almost lost my legs to a grenade after only 19 days overseas. That said, I'm a HUGE advocate that anyone can have PTSD. Car wrecks, assault, DV, SA, traumatic events of any kind. My worst day is equally as awfully to me, as 'your' worst day is to you. It's not a contest. Let's help each other heal. Awesome video
Forgive me for being literal, but you can't possibly say it's 'equal'. Symptoms of a PTSD episode can vary in type and intensity, even in the same person across different episodes. If there are two people having a PTSD episode side by side, you could probably determine which one is 'worse' in that moment. But I think your point was that all PTSD cases should be treated as equally valid, and none should be dismissed or ridiculed just because they are less intense that someone else's.
They're both my favourites, I'm sad they're not with Smosh anymore but know they both had some bad experiences there so totally respect it. I'm just glad to learn they're friends!
I don't want to make this about Smosh because you both have obviously made so much more than that but DAMN it's so comforting seeing two of my favourite members from SG history just chilling and talking damage. I hope you will do something together later. You two really are the "Spider-Man pointing at himself" meme in this one
It took me literally 2 years IN therapy to accept I had PTSD after the therapist I had been working with for the entire year prior diagnosed me with it. How I came to accept the diagnosis was a friend suggested we get massages so I went in and the room was all calm and serene but the massage therapist kept on telling me to relax to the point where she asked me can you relax? And I realized I was always on alert and could not in fact relax at all. I started crying and left the massage. But 4 years later I am doing great and rarely have PTSD symptoms.
17:50 this comment about tattoos really stuck with me. i have several tattoos and they are all from wildly different times/stages in my life. I might not love them all the same (I was young and dumb for a while) but at one point or another they were all important to me as a person. this gave me a new perspective and new respect for myself and the art i have. thank you Saige!
My first makeup items was just little kids disney princess themed lip glosses/eyeshadows, it was more for playing dressup than looking different or putting on an appearance. Most of my childhood I only had one little eyeshadow palette and a lipgloss. My parents were very strict on makeup for me so I'm just now as an adult discovering the joy of painting my face with these fun colors and exploring what I can do; I've never even worn mascara before. A big part of it is I'm autistic and I'm high masking so when I was young I would almost copy the personality of those around me to try to fit in, and my parents didn't know what this was and thought it was influence from wearing makeup and having cute clothes, so they took away all my nice and fancy things for a couple years, I only had plain t-shirts and jeans, no makeup or jewelry. I think that stunted my growth as a woman a lot and I still struggle with feeling like I can't be feminine or express myself.
My current therapist worries me. She asked the obligatory "Do you, or have you, heard things others can't?" And I explained a time where it did occur only once, during the deepest part of the deepest depression I've ever experienced. She said, "Well maybe that was Gawd!" with an excitement that was unnerving
Hmm, I would suggest looking elsewhere. Idk your situation, but I don't think she's going to help you much. Depression can have those moments (at least, to me) and I don't think it's beneficial to talk about God, unless you're religious maybe
@@Steph-wf2eg I'm atheist, but to be at least a little fair to her she didn't know til seconds after she said the thing. Plus we're in Kansas. I have to go through the VA for mental health and it's not easy swapping therapists. Probably going to see how it goes for a few more months and assess from there
That is an outrageous breach of professional ethics when it comes to therapy… that is not something a therapist should be saying. In fact, I would check to make sure they have a legitimate diploma from a reputable institution… Seriously, for your own good, leave that therapist immediately. If they seem desperate to convince you to stay, it’s because they are. There is obvious bias in the example you provided.
@@N0Bah_D-666 That's fair, I wondered if it was going to be hard to switch if you decided to. It's a good plan to see how it goes but it don't be afraid to put boundaries. It's okay to say "this approach doesn't seem to work for me, can we try something else?" That way you both get a fair shot at having this work out, she should be open to trying other ways of approaching a situation because one thing doesn't work for everyone. I hope it works out well, therapy is hard even if you have someone that you connect with. Just remember it's worth it, you'll get to a point where you realize you haven't been as upset/sad and that moment feels good. There's be ups and down but that's okay. I also go to therapy if you can't tell lol, we're all in your comments rooting for you ❣
both of my queens ?? Im so happy!!! 🖤✨ "Is there comfort in being stressed for you?" followed by "Stress makes me feel important" broke a thread in me... I'll be taking a midweek hiatus now, ty bye This episode was so beautiful, it was over too soon 🖤
14:45 As a man, I hated how small I was most of my life. A lot of my friends in school were girls and I got zero sympathy, "Oh WOW, how sad for you that you're too skinny /sarcasm" so I stopped talking about it. I would wear bulky jackets and work out to make myself look bigger (it didn’t work). It was only after I got an office job and started getting a bit chubby and stull I hated my body that i realized; I just hated myself and my body was a tool I was using to hurt myself. It was a long journey after that realization to unlearn that behavior. I can wear crop tops and shorts now. I had friends in school who knew me for a decade and never saw my knees. Now I work out to look better, not because I hate how I look, but because I am fine with how I look now and I want to look better. The distinction is worlds apart for me.
I dunno if you’ve mentioned it before, but learning in this episode that you have C-PTSD, Boze, truly just brought me so much comfort. I’ve adored your content for a while now, and your opinions on pretty much every case you cover, this reallly hit for me though. I went a long time feeling like I was playing a game that I was never given the rulebook for, and still sometimes feel like that even after my diagnosis. Especially with C-PTSD where there is pretty limited information and resources, finding out that someone I already admire and relate to shares that same diagnosis, I dunno, feels special. Small moment in the podcast, big moment for me 💛 thank you for sharing
I feel this girl on another level when it comes to getting ready. Like point by point!! It really is one of my fav acts of self care and i loveee fashion so its so greatt
The way this popped up on my feed and wow I NEEDED this, making me feel way better about starting to figure out my CPTSD and neurodivergency Would love a pt2 with Saige again!
11:07 I completely get all of this, I used to use makeup and fashion to try and "make myself look prettier" and "fit in" but, idk when, at some point the process just turned therapeutic and I found my style. I started to love to do it and not just to make myself more conventionally attractive but to explore fashion, art, and history. Im an art and art history major so at some point i guess my body became a canvas for me to express myself with and its really fun, my ultimate grand artwork. I could go on and on cus I relate to wayyyyy to many things in this video 😂
"I don't drink and I never have" is something that feels so validating to hear. I used to have to call myself "lame" to people whenever I told them I don't drink and I could never give them a reason that I thought was good enough. But hearing someone in the same boat is so nice and makes it feel like a more valid choice
I first saw Saige on Geek & Sundry's Gather Your Party, and i loved when she was on other G&S shows and on SMOSH! Geek and Sundry introduced me to so many great people i enjoy watching, and having G&S and SMOSH cast members crossing over on each channels shows always made me happy!
you should look up HYper RPG they did a WItcher game (run by Smosh games new channel producer Emily actually) where she played Ciri was where i first came across her
Omg what an incredible crossover! I never realized how similar y’all were, but I can’t unsee it now. Game recognizes game for real. What a great discussion!
this episode is me talking to myself. The part of me obtaining everything I learned from therapy, the other dissociating trying to figure it all out 👁️👄👁️ I hope to see more content from yall in the future! This conversation was VERY healing
I need to say, this is my ABOSULTE FAVORITE guest episode you've done. I'm going to save this and rewatch it when I'm not feeling myself. THANK YOU ❤ I hope you have Sage on again! ...soo er rather than later.
this was such a good episode! i always end up emailing my dr at 1 am like “i’m smelling peanut butter for no reason but didn’t just freak out about it at one am sorry i just needed you to know. the chronic illness panic email edition
Boze, you and Saige are just talented, kind, and lovely women. I always find you to be a stunningly engaging and generous human. I am old enough to be your grandmother. I am hopeful that you and Saige continue to sparkle as role models for young females and males. You give me hope.
Skating rinks we’re super popular hang outs in Pittsburgh in the 2000s. Ours were usually roller rink and then a skateboarding area, where they also had concerts. One of ours had the All American Rejects play at them. It was pure the punk/emo/skaters hung out.
i love having fun makeup and outfits. i love how i look without makeup but i love how i feel with my signature makeup. it’s my look it’s like a part of my chosen identity along with my purple hair and my tattoos. its just how i choose to present myself in the world and i love it
I grew up with super shimmery and colorful and fun makeup. When my cousin moved in with us, they ended up becoming my favorite person ever and taught me how to do makeup as well as how to express myself. I wore make up, and still do, because they taught me it and I felt fun with make up on. Now makeup is an art form where I enjoy doing it and I enjoy the results. I’m very alternative so a lot of my make up isn’t "normal" per se, but I absolutely love doing make up and how fun I look afterwards. I love how I look without make up, but make up is always fun. I love my cousin and they're who I am today and who keeps me, me.
I love this. I dont keep many female friends for a lot reasons so identifying with so many things yall have brought up is kind of eye opening in a super safe place (on this side of the screen lol)
While watching(or should I say, listening to)this, I’ve realized that I may have CPTSD as well lol. I was literally reflecting on my life when y’all started talking about that and I’ve realized so many instances that has caused trauma in my life that has made me who I am today.. just me casually self diagnosing 😂… I watch and listen to your videos because I can get perspective on life, different lives of others and to also try to understand perspectives and also learn about true crime, on the more psychological reasoning behind it as well, which is why I vibe so well with the videos. Not to mention your hilarious Karen videos and funny content and out of pocket personality 😂. Btw: My partner got to visit you at twitch con last year(or almost 2), got a video for me of you saying my name and happy birthday, that made my year since I’m an avid listener to your content lol. The funniest part was that the first video was accidentally a photo so my partner found you again for another short happy bday video. If you read this far, thanks and sorry! 😂…
I didn’t get a personality till my 20s toooo holy shit It makes me so happy to hear it from someone else. I legit say that exact thing all the time when people ask what I was like. Kids today have more social experiences than I’ve had my whole life I swear.
This is exactly what I needed in my life and I didn’t even know I needed it so much of what boze and saige are saying are so relatable honestly thought it was just me
Hearing saige talking about knowing she needed therapy but putting it off for years, im currently in that state, ive tried to get it, but everytime i start the process i pull out because of many fears of many things, knowing that one day ill be fully ready to commit to doing it and getting better, thank you for this!
Not to be soft but I feel so lucky to have content creators that open my mind and help me see perspectives that I otherwise wouldn’t get, I already go to therapy but being able to just relax and listen to other people be vulnerable is so comforting
It was so nice to meet Sage! You both perfectly articulated some thoughts, feelings,and personality traits that I have been trying to explain to myself and others. I feel a little less lost and alone now. 🥹Even the whole “stress makes me feel useful” sentence that sage said left my mind blown. I’ve been telling people that I like being a stressed out business lady like the ones in the 90s movies that are always busy busy busy! Now I can say, “it makes me feel useful and driven.” Maybe now people in my life won’t look at me with that puzzled expression or tell me I’m being silly I should calm down hahaha
Its been really nice to listen to Boze, but also it was great to hear Saige! I tried to follow both of yall on twitch endeavors, but I'm just not the kind of person who likes live content. So things like this make my heart happy!
I was a teenager in the 80's. Trapped in a tiny town where all rhe girls had bleach blonde spiral perms. I was the weird girl with a purple bob that covered one side of my face wearing six different colors on my lids. I looked like a lisa frank pencil and i loved it.
Didn’t realize how similar I was to both of y’all ADHD, CPTSD , MDD, GAD , insomnia and OCD I am finally in therapy and being medicated. Listening to y’all made me feel so much less alone
"You know what, I blocked it out for a reason..." I felt that SO hard. Something major came up that was like "hey, you may have experienced this thing as a child but been so young that your brain completely blocked it and also, it would explain why half of your childhood is missing from your memories." And I just went, "I do not want to find out if that is true or not. I'm gonna continue living in this blissful ignorance where that is not my known existence, thank you"
Boze's level of excitement and being comfortable is really cute. I'm like, "let her talk Boze," but in that way where you just chuckle and let two friends have their fun.
I've forced myself to attend stuff when I know I'm not good and have started crying in front of everyone lol I just say "this dress is really tight" or "the food is very spicy" and try to humor my way out of looking insane like oh she's crying again. It's better than "I'm off my meds and wanna die" or "It took 3 energy drinks to get me here"
More Saige collabs, please! 🖤 You introduced me to her with this episode, and now I've spent three months catching up on all of her company/channel's (Pixelcircus) TTRPG content (if you're a queer woman or non-binary person, you absolutely need to watch _Salt & Serpent)._ I can't believe I didn't know about her given the number of TTRPG content creators I already follow who actively collab with her. Now that I'm a fan of you both, I need more content. 😅🙏💛
okay, this CPTSD and therapy talk is so relatable. being diagnosed hit me like a ton of bricks (years ago), and everything y'all are saying here is so real.
My first makeup was a caboodle full of Avon samples at my grandparents house 😂 Hope this doesn't age me as much as I think it does. Also diagnosed with Complex trauma and chronic stress 🫠
My first expression of my looks was when I was in middle school I was super insecure about my bushy eyebrows/unibrow. I decided to take a body razor down the middle and for years my eyebrows were wayyyy too spaced out.
My boyfriend skimmed through and sent this to me and I’ve found a new channel to listen to! Absolutely loved this episode and just how relatable all the talking points were :) love to hear humans enjoying other humans company and just shootin the shit 😌 keep doin your new and taking care of yourselves 😊 hope y’all are doing well❤
My prefrontal cortex was developed by the time I lost my flower. Dude was no gardener. Luckily I married the pool boy who moolinghted as a gardener at 24. We're approaching our 20th wedding anniversary and have 2 teenagers. For me, being an unpopular late bloomer who's first bf took her flower and second bf became my prince charming. I'm literally typing this from our house we own with an actual picket fence 😂
War veteran here. Almost lost my legs to a grenade after only 19 days overseas.
That said, I'm a HUGE advocate that anyone can have PTSD. Car wrecks, assault, DV, SA, traumatic events of any kind.
My worst day is equally as awfully to me, as 'your' worst day is to you. It's not a contest. Let's help each other heal.
Awesome video
> My worst day is equally as awfully to me, as 'your' worst day is to you. It's not a contest. Let's help each other heal.
Fucking words to LIVE by.
Forgive me for being literal, but you can't possibly say it's 'equal'. Symptoms of a PTSD episode can vary in type and intensity, even in the same person across different episodes. If there are two people having a PTSD episode side by side, you could probably determine which one is 'worse' in that moment. But I think your point was that all PTSD cases should be treated as equally valid, and none should be dismissed or ridiculed just because they are less intense that someone else's.
@@jerotoro2021 you're forgiven.
@@GrenadeLegs you are pretty cool grenade legs
Wow. I love this
As a Smosh viewer, I've been waiting for this for years! I've thought you were so similar since she joined
Gonna rewatch all Saiges Smosh videos now
This has nothing to do with the video but we have almost the exact same profile picture it’s actually crazy 😱🤩🤭🐈⬛
The pair up we always dreamed of.
They're both my favourites, I'm sad they're not with Smosh anymore but know they both had some bad experiences there so totally respect it. I'm just glad to learn they're friends!
I’ve always thought that Boze and Angela would get along well 😂
"i'm so happy to be here!"
"i'm so sorry!"
LMAO
The second I heard this I knew it was gonna be great! 😂
I don't want to make this about Smosh because you both have obviously made so much more than that but DAMN it's so comforting seeing two of my favourite members from SG history just chilling and talking damage. I hope you will do something together later. You two really are the "Spider-Man pointing at himself" meme in this one
incredibly goated crossover
Love your wording for that 🫶🫶
BOZE’s SMILE after saying “maybe you feel like you’ll lose a piece of yourself if you take a break” was so devious😆
It took me literally 2 years IN therapy to accept I had PTSD after the therapist I had been working with for the entire year prior diagnosed me with it. How I came to accept the diagnosis was a friend suggested we get massages so I went in and the room was all calm and serene but the massage therapist kept on telling me to relax to the point where she asked me can you relax? And I realized I was always on alert and could not in fact relax at all. I started crying and left the massage. But 4 years later I am doing great and rarely have PTSD symptoms.
Congrats!! That's great you've worked through your symptoms.
"all of my work was once a hobby" fr
It’s refreshing to see two people just being and talking also appreciating each other. This noice to see that’s all thank you. 🙏
17:50 this comment about tattoos really stuck with me. i have several tattoos and they are all from wildly different times/stages in my life. I might not love them all the same (I was young and dumb for a while) but at one point or another they were all important to me as a person. this gave me a new perspective and new respect for myself and the art i have. thank you Saige!
This is what a healthy conversation looks like.
I love that Bose always uploads when I’m high out of my mind
Definitely gonna rewatch (3rd time today) after getting out the bowl lol, ty for the idea
Because she knows, haha!
lol
I MISSED SAIGE SO MUCH ON SMOSH
My first makeup items was just little kids disney princess themed lip glosses/eyeshadows, it was more for playing dressup than looking different or putting on an appearance. Most of my childhood I only had one little eyeshadow palette and a lipgloss. My parents were very strict on makeup for me so I'm just now as an adult discovering the joy of painting my face with these fun colors and exploring what I can do; I've never even worn mascara before. A big part of it is I'm autistic and I'm high masking so when I was young I would almost copy the personality of those around me to try to fit in, and my parents didn't know what this was and thought it was influence from wearing makeup and having cute clothes, so they took away all my nice and fancy things for a couple years, I only had plain t-shirts and jeans, no makeup or jewelry. I think that stunted my growth as a woman a lot and I still struggle with feeling like I can't be feminine or express myself.
Stranger here, I related to your comment so much I feel like crying. I'm so happy you have begun discovering yourself 🖤
@@nowitchisanisland Thank you for the kind words.
My current therapist worries me. She asked the obligatory "Do you, or have you, heard things others can't?" And I explained a time where it did occur only once, during the deepest part of the deepest depression I've ever experienced. She said, "Well maybe that was Gawd!" with an excitement that was unnerving
Hmm, I would suggest looking elsewhere. Idk your situation, but I don't think she's going to help you much. Depression can have those moments (at least, to me) and I don't think it's beneficial to talk about God, unless you're religious maybe
@@Steph-wf2eg I'm atheist, but to be at least a little fair to her she didn't know til seconds after she said the thing. Plus we're in Kansas.
I have to go through the VA for mental health and it's not easy swapping therapists. Probably going to see how it goes for a few more months and assess from there
Wow. I hope you're able to find a better therapist who is a little better at being unbiased for their client... best of luck to you my friend
That is an outrageous breach of professional ethics when it comes to therapy… that is not something a therapist should be saying. In fact, I would check to make sure they have a legitimate diploma from a reputable institution…
Seriously, for your own good, leave that therapist immediately. If they seem desperate to convince you to stay, it’s because they are. There is obvious bias in the example you provided.
@@N0Bah_D-666 That's fair, I wondered if it was going to be hard to switch if you decided to. It's a good plan to see how it goes but it don't be afraid to put boundaries. It's okay to say "this approach doesn't seem to work for me, can we try something else?" That way you both get a fair shot at having this work out, she should be open to trying other ways of approaching a situation because one thing doesn't work for everyone.
I hope it works out well, therapy is hard even if you have someone that you connect with. Just remember it's worth it, you'll get to a point where you realize you haven't been as upset/sad and that moment feels good. There's be ups and down but that's okay. I also go to therapy if you can't tell lol, we're all in your comments rooting for you ❣
both of my queens ?? Im so happy!!! 🖤✨
"Is there comfort in being stressed for you?" followed by "Stress makes me feel important" broke a thread in me... I'll be taking a midweek hiatus now, ty bye
This episode was so beautiful, it was over too soon 🖤
14:45 As a man, I hated how small I was most of my life. A lot of my friends in school were girls and I got zero sympathy, "Oh WOW, how sad for you that you're too skinny /sarcasm" so I stopped talking about it. I would wear bulky jackets and work out to make myself look bigger (it didn’t work).
It was only after I got an office job and started getting a bit chubby and stull I hated my body that i realized; I just hated myself and my body was a tool I was using to hurt myself. It was a long journey after that realization to unlearn that behavior. I can wear crop tops and shorts now. I had friends in school who knew me for a decade and never saw my knees.
Now I work out to look better, not because I hate how I look, but because I am fine with how I look now and I want to look better. The distinction is worlds apart for me.
Omg yaaaaayyyyyyyyy 🥹🥹🥹🥹 I loved both of you on smosh so much & so happy to see y’all together 😭😭😭 I hope you collab more in the future
I immediately connected with Saige when it came to roller skating being her hobby, it made my heart flutter! 😫
I dunno if you’ve mentioned it before, but learning in this episode that you have C-PTSD, Boze, truly just brought me so much comfort. I’ve adored your content for a while now, and your opinions on pretty much every case you cover, this reallly hit for me though. I went a long time feeling like I was playing a game that I was never given the rulebook for, and still sometimes feel like that even after my diagnosis. Especially with C-PTSD where there is pretty limited information and resources, finding out that someone I already admire and relate to shares that same diagnosis, I dunno, feels special. Small moment in the podcast, big moment for me 💛 thank you for sharing
As someone with CPTSD it’s really helpful to listen to you talk about it
i absolutely love y’all’s dynamic. listening to this ep feels like i’m hanging out with the homies
"i got a tiny trampoline thats whats for me" LOL love it
I feel this girl on another level when it comes to getting ready. Like point by point!! It really is one of my fav acts of self care and i loveee fashion so its so greatt
You both are golden, never diminishing. I am so happy how successful you both are ❤️❤️❤️
I needed this today. Thank you to my two biggest Smosh crushes ever.
The way this popped up on my feed and wow I NEEDED this, making me feel way better about starting to figure out my CPTSD and neurodivergency
Would love a pt2 with Saige again!
18:06
Saige, you just cured a major part of me.
Damn.
Thank you for saying that.
11:07 I completely get all of this, I used to use makeup and fashion to try and "make myself look prettier" and "fit in" but, idk when, at some point the process just turned therapeutic and I found my style. I started to love to do it and not just to make myself more conventionally attractive but to explore fashion, art, and history. Im an art and art history major so at some point i guess my body became a canvas for me to express myself with and its really fun, my ultimate grand artwork. I could go on and on cus I relate to wayyyyy to many things in this video 😂
"I don't drink and I never have" is something that feels so validating to hear. I used to have to call myself "lame" to people whenever I told them I don't drink and I could never give them a reason that I thought was good enough. But hearing someone in the same boat is so nice and makes it feel like a more valid choice
Same.
I first saw Saige on Geek & Sundry's Gather Your Party, and i loved when she was on other G&S shows and on SMOSH! Geek and Sundry introduced me to so many great people i enjoy watching, and having G&S and SMOSH cast members crossing over on each channels shows always made me happy!
you should look up HYper RPG they did a WItcher game (run by Smosh games new channel producer Emily actually) where she played Ciri was where i first came across her
Omg what an incredible crossover! I never realized how similar y’all were, but I can’t unsee it now. Game recognizes game for real. What a great discussion!
this episode is me talking to myself. The part of me obtaining everything I learned from therapy, the other dissociating trying to figure it all out 👁️👄👁️
I hope to see more content from yall in the future! This conversation was VERY healing
I need to say, this is my ABOSULTE FAVORITE guest episode you've done. I'm going to save this and rewatch it when I'm not feeling myself. THANK YOU ❤
I hope you have Sage on again! ...soo er rather than later.
Y'all are both so pretty 😭🖤
Right now, today, Saige's laugh is everything! Great episode. Hard feeling it all the way through
A lot of these questions have been in my head these past few days, and you managed to answer them. Thank you
this was such a good episode! i always end up emailing my dr at 1 am like “i’m smelling peanut butter for no reason but didn’t just freak out about it at one am sorry i just needed you to know. the chronic illness panic email edition
Boze, you and Saige are just talented, kind, and lovely women. I always find you to be a stunningly engaging and generous human. I am old enough to be your grandmother. I am hopeful that you and Saige continue to sparkle as role models for young females and males. You give me hope.
Didn't realize how much i needed this. Would love to see Saige back here again.
Skating rinks we’re super popular hang outs in Pittsburgh in the 2000s. Ours were usually roller rink and then a skateboarding area, where they also had concerts. One of ours had the All American Rejects play at them. It was pure the punk/emo/skaters hung out.
Today is a good day! So excited to watch this. Edited to add: this podcast made me feel like I was hanging with some friends. Which I needed today.
i love having fun makeup and outfits. i love how i look without makeup but i love how i feel with my signature makeup. it’s my look it’s like a part of my chosen identity along with my purple hair and my tattoos. its just how i choose to present myself in the world and i love it
I grew up with super shimmery and colorful and fun makeup. When my cousin moved in with us, they ended up becoming my favorite person ever and taught me how to do makeup as well as how to express myself. I wore make up, and still do, because they taught me it and I felt fun with make up on. Now makeup is an art form where I enjoy doing it and I enjoy the results. I’m very alternative so a lot of my make up isn’t "normal" per se, but I absolutely love doing make up and how fun I look afterwards. I love how I look without make up, but make up is always fun. I love my cousin and they're who I am today and who keeps me, me.
21:09 I love this part SO much. 😂 I can definitely relate.
I love this. I dont keep many female friends for a lot reasons so identifying with so many things yall have brought up is kind of eye opening in a super safe place (on this side of the screen lol)
Shit, I never knew how much I missed Saige, until I saw her today. Love you, lil' girl!
While watching(or should I say, listening to)this, I’ve realized that I may have CPTSD as well lol. I was literally reflecting on my life when y’all started talking about that and I’ve realized so many instances that has caused trauma in my life that has made me who I am today.. just me casually self diagnosing 😂… I watch and listen to your videos because I can get perspective on life, different lives of others and to also try to understand perspectives and also learn about true crime, on the more psychological reasoning behind it as well, which is why I vibe so well with the videos. Not to mention your hilarious Karen videos and funny content and out of pocket personality 😂.
Btw:
My partner got to visit you at twitch con last year(or almost 2), got a video for me of you saying my name and happy birthday, that made my year since I’m an avid listener to your content lol. The funniest part was that the first video was accidentally a photo so my partner found you again for another short happy bday video. If you read this far, thanks and sorry! 😂…
I didn’t get a personality till my 20s toooo holy shit It makes me so happy to hear it from someone else. I legit say that exact thing all the time when people ask what I was like. Kids today have more social experiences than I’ve had my whole life I swear.
This is exactly what I needed in my life and I didn’t even know I needed it so much of what boze and saige are saying are so relatable honestly thought it was just me
Guest Request: Angela Giarratana :)
Hearing saige talking about knowing she needed therapy but putting it off for years, im currently in that state, ive tried to get it, but everytime i start the process i pull out because of many fears of many things, knowing that one day ill be fully ready to commit to doing it and getting better, thank you for this!
Former Smosh Games GOATs
This was so relatable & engaging. Awesome episode 🩷
Not to be soft but I feel so lucky to have content creators that open my mind and help me see perspectives that I otherwise wouldn’t get, I already go to therapy but being able to just relax and listen to other people be vulnerable is so comforting
It was so nice to meet Sage! You both perfectly articulated some thoughts, feelings,and personality traits that I have been trying to explain to myself and others. I feel a little less lost and alone now. 🥹Even the whole “stress makes me feel useful” sentence that sage said left my mind blown. I’ve been telling people that I like being a stressed out business lady like the ones in the 90s movies that are always busy busy busy! Now I can say, “it makes me feel useful and driven.” Maybe now people in my life won’t look at me with that puzzled expression or tell me I’m being silly I should calm down hahaha
OMGGG the best collab-😯
i love this! we need more of this healthy friendship!!
I love this SOO much, y'all are the best
Its been really nice to listen to Boze, but also it was great to hear Saige! I tried to follow both of yall on twitch endeavors, but I'm just not the kind of person who likes live content. So things like this make my heart happy!
YOOOO GIRLLLLY TALK YALLLL
I was a teenager in the 80's. Trapped in a tiny town where all rhe girls had bleach blonde spiral perms. I was the weird girl with a purple bob that covered one side of my face wearing six different colors on my lids. I looked like a lisa frank pencil and i loved it.
Really loved this episode, resonated with a lot of the topics :)
Didn’t realize how similar I was to both of y’all ADHD, CPTSD , MDD, GAD , insomnia and OCD I am finally in therapy and being medicated. Listening to y’all made me feel so much less alone
I love how I found both of them from Smosh
"You know what, I blocked it out for a reason..." I felt that SO hard. Something major came up that was like "hey, you may have experienced this thing as a child but been so young that your brain completely blocked it and also, it would explain why half of your childhood is missing from your memories." And I just went, "I do not want to find out if that is true or not. I'm gonna continue living in this blissful ignorance where that is not my known existence, thank you"
Boze's level of excitement and being comfortable is really cute. I'm like, "let her talk Boze," but in that way where you just chuckle and let two friends have their fun.
Roller skating is AWESOME 👍👍👍
one of my fav episodes so far!! loved it
It's none of our business, but I always was curious what happened between Saige and Damian.
I was a kid in the south early 2000s and the skating rink was still the spot on Friday nights tbh
Their energy is amazing!
Came hopeing for smosh tea, left with some genuine mental health realizations
Absolutely loved the episode! Please have Saige on again
I've forced myself to attend stuff when I know I'm not good and have started crying in front of everyone lol I just say "this dress is really tight" or "the food is very spicy" and try to humor my way out of looking insane like oh she's crying again. It's better than "I'm off my meds and wanna die" or "It took 3 energy drinks to get me here"
Wow. It's like watching myself talk to myself... 😂
I would pay so much money to hear you guys talk all day ❤
This is the duo no one knew we needed. I could listen to y'all talk forever. 10000/10 ❤️❤️❤️
Boze, something about your style here is really clicking with me - I love it, it's a vibe 🙌
More Saige collabs, please! 🖤 You introduced me to her with this episode, and now I've spent three months catching up on all of her company/channel's (Pixelcircus) TTRPG content (if you're a queer woman or non-binary person, you absolutely need to watch _Salt & Serpent)._ I can't believe I didn't know about her given the number of TTRPG content creators I already follow who actively collab with her. Now that I'm a fan of you both, I need more content. 😅🙏💛
Love these two together!
Bro I clicked this SO fast! I’ve been getting back into Smosh recently so this makes me so happy :’)
okay, this CPTSD and therapy talk is so relatable. being diagnosed hit me like a ton of bricks (years ago), and everything y'all are saying here is so real.
Feels like this was inevitable! Love your vibes together
Goal orientated walks are so good
Yesss I feel like otherwise i’d just be aimlessly walking aroujd and get lost or somthing
Excited my prefrontal cortex to fully load in
omg there's a person in the other chair
In college I walked a crap ton, but my mental health was a dumpster fire back then.
Boze, what you're saying through the course of where 29:00 that whole convo is SOOOOOOO REAL
I actually really needed to hear this podcast. Thank you.
Love this combo convo ❤
game recognize game 😂😂😭💖
My first makeup was a caboodle full of Avon samples at my grandparents house 😂 Hope this doesn't age me as much as I think it does. Also diagnosed with Complex trauma and chronic stress 🫠
My first expression of my looks was when I was in middle school I was super insecure about my bushy eyebrows/unibrow. I decided to take a body razor down the middle and for years my eyebrows were wayyyy too spaced out.
PLEASE have Saige on again, this was excellent
YESS BOZE N SAIGE
My boyfriend skimmed through and sent this to me and I’ve found a new channel to listen to! Absolutely loved this episode and just how relatable all the talking points were :) love to hear humans enjoying other humans company and just shootin the shit 😌 keep doin your new and taking care of yourselves 😊 hope y’all are doing well❤
Incredibly interesting episode, I love these gals
My prefrontal cortex was developed by the time I lost my flower. Dude was no gardener. Luckily I married the pool boy who moolinghted as a gardener at 24. We're approaching our 20th wedding anniversary and have 2 teenagers. For me, being an unpopular late bloomer who's first bf took her flower and second bf became my prince charming. I'm literally typing this from our house we own with an actual picket fence 😂
this was so lovely