man the illustrations around 7:00 - 9:00 are so beautiful. Probably would have been a really fun project for the artist, it looks like the ark spared no expense with the lovely (digital) paintings.
Lord Billionaire Black Belt von Hugecock You mean other than Honduras,Venezuela, Swaziland, Guatemala, Jamaica, El Salvador, Columbia, Brazil, Panama,and Uruguay. If you are going per capita. If you are just going by total deaths regardless of size, then we rank 17th in homicide.
I'm claustrophobic. The ark looks terrifying - though the *navigation charts* (wtf?) in Captain Noah's room might have made me laugh enough to take the edge off.
Thank you for a very professional and interesting video. The interviews with people's reactions to it were very helpful in understanding the visitor's feelings about the encounter. I appreciate the challenge of trying to do all that with two young kids in tow! But Dinosaurs? I thought they went extinct around 65 Million years ago (I checked this on Google). How could Dinosaurs be on the Ark if they were extinct already? If you do get a chance to go back, I'd like to know more about that.
because those morons teach that the earth is only 6000 years old. man rode dinosaurs...havent you seen the creation museum? you should, they are so cringe worthy
6000 years? What? There have been people living in my country for 12,000 years (Scotland) so that cannot be true. So if I understand you correctly, they have made up a story which doesn't fit the evidence and then changed facts to make Dinosaurs fit the story. Are museums allowed to tell lies in America?
they call it a creation museum to support their lies. go watch a youtube video i think its called "atheists at the creation museum". you wont believe the crap ken ham tries to peddle
EdCranium, I am very openminded and able to consider two sides to an argument before making up my mind and before scoffing at the "other side" whom I believe mistaken. So don't take this summary as an endorsement: That said, the standard Young Earth Creationist timeline of universal history is different than the standard modern cosmologist's timeline. The disagreement stems from differing epistemologies: cosmologists think we have zero historical or prophetic evidence that goes back far enough, so we ONLY have natural-empirical evidence; YEC's believe we have *some* historical evidence (genealogies) and some prophetic evidence (the revelation to Moses recorded in Genesis) on top of the natural-emprical evidence and the three must be coordinated. About 51% of working scientists believe in a God or gods (www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/) but few of those subscribe to the ideology of "Creationism". If you want to get to know the three views, you might try this book (www.amazon.com/dp/B0050J1NVG/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1#nav-subnav) For more on how some creationists try to rectify the age of the universe with the Genesis story, see sixdayscience.com/six-days-2/. For more on how old-earth cosmologists date the age of the universe, see Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_universe
It looks like a rather fun thing to see. Kinda like a jurassic park or disney world ish thing.... Hey.. jurassic world? I however would not pay anything to go there. Like no damn way would I be a part of the payment for whoever tries to trick the kids there. XD
+Caim Pact - 1:30 - It is not a boat. It is a building with a wooden facade in the shape of a boat from one side. It is secured by concrete pillars to the bedrock and the whole thing is bolted to a concrete platform. It is not a boat. Of course, Noah, never had any boat either, so it is accurate in that sense.
Without mechanical ventilation and lots of it, All animals would have died. Also in the model, how would 8 old people been able to stand up all those vertical columns without cranes which hadn't been invented.
15,000 people worked for 30 years on each pyramid. A 2000 lb stone can easily moved by 100 people but not by just 8. In the arc 2000 lb logs had to be moved by 8 old people without modern machinery. Can't be done. As for stonehenge, lots of workers ropes and ramps could muscle those stones into position. It has been duplicated using the same methods. The common denominator is lots of manual labor.
At 18:47--"Ken Ham just says's hay you're wrong." No. That isn't what Ken says. What he says is: "You dare disagree with me? You will be tortured for all eternity for your effrontery." What a nice man.
Thanks for watching to the end -- more than what some others did! But what do you say to Ken Ham? "How dare you disagree with me? You will live the rest of your life in ignorance, leading others into ignorance, until you die and disappear." Neither one is nice. I like when someone doesn't play kissie face with his opponents, don't you? Give me the respect of calling me WRONG.
So, Noah didn't need to bring all of the sea creatures, because all water life live in salt water? Oh wait, only in fresh water? Wait, wait, oh hell forget it. This never happened.
I've seen snake rooms among reptile enthusiasts that were more impressive and the kid at three minutes in seems like he could be a natural born sceptic.
do they show the lepurosy cure exibit at the ark. you use a live bird as a paintbrush and paint dead bird blood on the lepurosy parts and let the paintbrush bird go. that cures lepurosy . leviticus 14:7
KC..... Sorry you are WAY off... this is what all PRO baby killers want to see.... Please check more reliable sources other than some modern translation that FITS your views. Maybe King James? Seventeen other translations do not contain the word “miscarries” but rather say something similar to, “May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells and your thigh wastes away” . There is no evidence in the preceding or following verses to indicate that it in any way refers to spontaneous or induced abortion, nor does the original Hebrew carry that connotation.
Lucifer is called the 'accuser of the brethren'... When he tried to tempt Jesus to change His mind and agree with his evil plots... He said "get thee behind me Satan."
As long as you recognise this is just a theme park with no educational value - like those Santa's North Pole experiences that spring up around Xmas - then I guess it could be a fun day out for some people. Personally, I prefer facts to fantasies and would rather visit a proper museum than this Bible/Disney mishmash.
I agree with InformationIsTheEdge that it's a nice video and you that it's quite a spectical. That said boy did I find a lot to complain about. 5:30 This is so incredibly wrong, 1) dinosaurs are extinct if you want to say it was easier to fit an incredible number of species or """kinds""" on the arc wouldn't it be easier to say dinosaurs didn't make it onto the arc so went extinct or dinosaurs were extinct before the great flood? 2) dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago before mankind walked the earth there's no way in hell they could of been on Noah's arc. 3) this doesn't actually apply to the dinosaurs because you know long extinct, but for the other animals a genetic bottleneck of two individuals would cause severe problems for the species, and we would be able to tell by looking at a species DNA that they had been through a bottleneck like that. 4) this doesn't apply to the dinosaurs but there's no global flood layer in the geological column, which we would expect of a global cataclysm like that. 5) the flood would of killed all plants on earth after being underwater for that long, how the heck did the bird Noah sent out come back with a branch? 6) see point 5 what did the animals eat after they left the arc? maybe that's why so many species are extinct? (no) 7) ken ham doesn't believe in evolution, except when it happens at warp speed to get to all of the millions of species we see today from just some 14,000 pairs 8) the way the arc was financed and the employment practices used were a violation of the first amendment. 11:30 why do they need maps? if everything is underwater you can't use them, star charts....maybe. but where are they navigating to? 18:00 debate? fact check? only about the biblical content. Every scientific claim is wrong, no need to check a good high-school education is enough to tell. 18:45 The thing that annoys me the most about ken ham is how wrong he is, no one who ever knew anything about dinosaurs thinks there were around when people where around. 19:00 there is no information about science, paleontology or biology there I assure you.
Here's why I removed my down vote. Keith presented an objective look at what is actually in Kentucky. I may disapprove of the attractions message but I shouldn't punish the messenger.
Your video was good. The presentation was quite good. Questions, attractions, activities... You covered them all quite well. I must still give this video a thumb down because it supports the Ark Encounter. The sooner this brain deadening monstrosity goes away, the better it will be for the children it is meant to indoctrinate.
Keith Buhler See? Now, because you are so amiable and reasonable, I am suddenly rethinking my down vote. It seems I can like you and your video well enough but it is the misrepresentation of science the park itself presents that prompted me to thumb down. I'm glad you and your family had such a good time.
Look, I get it. It's a tribe loyalty thing. Ken Ham is a bad guy, so anyone who says anything remotely nice about him (or even pays the admission fee!) must be part of his tribe and ipso facto a traitor to our side. I just wish I had a few more upvotes from the other tribe to balance things out haha.
+InformationIsTheEdge One of my regrets, honestly, was bringing the kids because they distracted us from the all the readings. If I go back it will be just my wife and I (she has a background in philosophy, and I'm an academic philosopher) so we have the time and space to debate and discuss everything Ham presents -- and to Google everything. I am not emotionally offended by falsehoods (pseudoscience or otherwise), but I do like to come up with a cutting critique.
Keith Buhler There you go again, being all reasonable and likable. In the reasonable category, you make a good point. I did down vote because of the emotional aspect. I am quite scared of the power this kind of thing has to do damage to the education of children. Ham's message in particular is especially caustic in that way so I reacted to that. As I indicated in my original post, your video was quite good and presented very well. If it were a water park or Disney attraction, I would not have down voted. To escape the charge of hypocrisy, I shall remove my down vote. Keep up the good work!
I can appreciate that you are presenting it as-is without commentary I do have a problem with you saying "Ark Encounter is a museum, not a theme park". Although it is not at the quality of Disney or Universal they are in the same category of immersing you into a fantasy world.
I see your point (and understand you are making a pointed joked) but I stand by the categorization. Museums are a genre, whether or not what they present is true. Renaissance painting museums don't even purport to display truth, they display paintings.
That is the PROBLEM with Ken Ham, that he says "we" are wrong. The science robustly and conclusively has proven that Flintstones model of Ken's wrong over 150 years ago, and 99% of all working scientists and ALL published scientific research has refuted his model. So Ken saying "you are wrong" is not based on anything but bluster, and is evidence of his dishonesty. And you got what you needed out of the experience with the visuals. The placards and posters are all non-Biblical artistic license taken to the extreme. Flood geology and an Ice Age in the last 5000 years has been disproven and is nonsense. Ken Ham is preying on the ignorance of most of the guests, especially the children.
+Keith Buhler - Are you merely uniformed or are you willfully deceitful? Liar Ken has made it clear from the start his intentions to use this to indoctrinate children. There is a lawsuit pending, which AIG is fighting, to keep schools from having field trips to this disgrace. He has been interviewed DOZENS of times about this and believes that children need to be taught about gods genocide. Don't pretend this is not about preaching nonsense to kids. And incest. Lots and lots of godly incest.
Yeah that's right, Yahweh murdered all the children. As a matter of fact, Moses was 600 years old and he was only allowed to take three sons and their wives? What about all his grandchildren, and great grandchildren. He must have see them all drown, mustn't he? No wonder he got drunk.
Pot Dragon, are you asking complex questions or wilfully drawing false dilemmas? I suppose you'd prefer to teach kids that each and every one of them will eventually die, that the human race will eventually go extinct, and all light and energy will disperse -- so nothing really matters in the end. Good luck selling that!
"I suppose you'd prefer to teach kids that each and every one of them will eventually die, that the human race will eventually go extinct, and all light and energy will disperse" Those things are all true, so we have to teach them. You are the one who concludes that the truth means nothing matters--its; your moral defect that you'd prefer to spend the rest of eternity singing hosannas to a genocidal monster. That would be meaningless.
It seems like a lot of comments come from people who are hurt and offended by the Ark's existence and horrified by its teachings to children. Dare I suggest you can enjoy the visual spectacle without believing it? And that you can pity all those who believe it without despising them?
Visual spectacle? In what sense? It is a fairly small building with a wood facade that is already weathering in an unattractive manner. Oh, that's right, you think it is a "boat". Sigh. If it were in the water and floating it would be a fairly small boat compared to large vessels. I guess in Kentucky, where they are dumb enough to build this monument to incest, it must be impressive.
Without despising them? When they try to enact laws based on their book of mythology that would force their religion on me? I am not offended by the attraction. I am offended that public funds were used (indirectly) to build it and that it lies to children.
I could explain it to you, but it's better to go. Why is six flags cool? The rides. Why is surfing cool? The waves. Why is the Ark cool? The exhibits, the woodwork, etc. If you never see it, that's cool too. Where you from?
I do actually think it's kind of rotten all the down votes but put yourself in our shoes. Most people don't hate you for your beliefs, it's more sadness about what your children are learning. The "ark" story isn't just kind of nonsense, it doesn't mesh with what ALL of reality tells us happened. I don't find it to be child abuse but I think a lot of us would like soee children educated with real evidence and actual science, You seem like a legitimately nice person and I'm sure you feel attacked but I think people are disappointed with their fellow man, they don't hate them. It turns my stomach to see how they manipulate facts with colorful images and all the children that will believe it!
Thanks for your comment. I totally get it. But thanks for getting my P.O.V. too! The downvotes suck but I asked for it by making the video (the force is strong with internet atheists.) I actually love you guys. I am no longer agnostic but I used to be and still am active with my campus Secular Student Alliance. Regarding the ark, I'm not teaching my kids (4 and 2) it's true or false yet because they don't "get" the difference between true and false much. I have already taught the older one Santa Clause is just pretend, which I think he gets. (You have to talk about Santa Clause cause so many damn kids books are about him.) And I've taught him dinosaurs are not pretend, even though they are very old and we don't see them anymore so all the cartoons/movies are just pretend. I teach him natural science as we go -- learning about the constellations, for example, and how sunlight causes plants to grow, how the digestive system works -- whatever he is obviously curious about. I try to match the curiosity with scientific knowledge without overloading him. The point is, it's honestly rather advanced epistemology to draw distinctions between "never existed" (dragons) and "extinct" (dinosaurs) so I'm not so worried about it until he gets older.
Absolutely... It's fascinating to me and I am thrilled you were able to go visit. I was just wondering what happened to my first post.. it disappeared! :) I was mentioning how great your vid was ...etc.
many things are better left to the "imagination" perhaps better to say the "mind's eye" especially things related to our faith. To make a picture of Jesus, or other persons or things in the bible actually detract and pull down our depth of faith
Ken Ham is wrong and has been proven so time and time again. He is also low on the scale of the top Christian apologists but even the best lose under serious scrutiny. If the religion was so correct, why does it need defended so heartily? Couple things stood out to me in the video, first was the children. Indoctrination was oozing off the content when the children were seen, skepticism not required for recognizing that one. The horrible biblical story of the beginning which only led to death and destruction was hurtful to watch and after that pops up the words, "God Revives Man's Hope." As the story goes, where does this hope come into play, man was put into exile and woman were cursed because of Eve. Cursed with a painful childbirth as if this natural reproductive process could possibly be painless. The discrimination of women has gone on for thousands of years and humanity is finally beginning to recognize why. Islam is worse of course. Ken Ham's attempt to teach the Ark as some sort of historical and factual event instead of a tall tale is a joke. I noticed the verse of the fountains of the deep being opened, the waves would have been so unimaginably huge that the Ark as described would last no more than minutes. The theory is that the Ark was not afloat for the first forty days but floated only a few months once the earth was covered. How a person in their right mind could believe such fiction is beyond me.
man the illustrations around 7:00 - 9:00 are so beautiful. Probably would have been a really fun project for the artist, it looks like the ark spared no expense with the lovely (digital) paintings.
This has to be the largest monument to gullibility I've ever seen.
I'm American -- I love the largest anything! www.worldslargestdoc.com/
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I stand corrected sir... This is the second largest.
Lord Billionaire Black Belt von Hugecock
You mean other than Honduras,Venezuela, Swaziland, Guatemala, Jamaica, El Salvador, Columbia, Brazil, Panama,and Uruguay. If you are going per capita. If you are just going by total deaths regardless of size, then we rank 17th in homicide.
carl witt we rule the planet on accidental gun deaths.....kids
Shame Noah had the only boat on the entire planet at the time? - LOL
Uhm, this isn't replica. You can't build a replica of something that never existed in the first place.
100% correct
can you find out where noah kept his power generator
Next to the sprinkler system. All wood structure + fire = no bueno.
Beside Noah's Air Conditioner....
I'm claustrophobic. The ark looks terrifying - though the *navigation charts* (wtf?) in Captain Noah's room might have made me laugh enough to take the edge off.
Thank you for a very professional and interesting video. The interviews with people's reactions to it were very helpful in understanding the visitor's feelings about the encounter. I appreciate the challenge of trying to do all that with two young kids in tow! But Dinosaurs? I thought they went extinct around 65 Million years ago (I checked this on Google). How could Dinosaurs be on the Ark if they were extinct already? If you do get a chance to go back, I'd like to know more about that.
because those morons teach that the earth is only 6000 years old. man rode dinosaurs...havent you seen the creation museum? you should, they are so cringe worthy
6000 years? What? There have been people living in my country for 12,000 years (Scotland) so that cannot be true. So if I understand you correctly, they have made up a story which doesn't fit the evidence and then changed facts to make Dinosaurs fit the story. Are museums allowed to tell lies in America?
they call it a creation museum to support their lies. go watch a youtube video i think its called "atheists at
the creation museum". you wont believe the crap ken ham tries to peddle
I'm astounded. Speechless. I thought all of America was an advanced civilisation. Clearly not. Thanks for the heads up.
EdCranium, I am very openminded and able to consider two sides to an argument before making up my mind and before scoffing at the "other side" whom I believe mistaken. So don't take this summary as an endorsement:
That said, the standard Young Earth Creationist timeline of universal history is different than the standard modern cosmologist's timeline. The disagreement stems from differing epistemologies: cosmologists think we have zero historical or prophetic evidence that goes back far enough, so we ONLY have natural-empirical evidence; YEC's believe we have *some* historical evidence (genealogies) and some prophetic evidence (the revelation to Moses recorded in Genesis) on top of the natural-emprical evidence and the three must be coordinated.
About 51% of working scientists believe in a God or gods (www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/) but few of those subscribe to the ideology of "Creationism". If you want to get to know the three views, you might try this book (www.amazon.com/dp/B0050J1NVG/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1#nav-subnav)
For more on how some creationists try to rectify the age of the universe with the Genesis story, see sixdayscience.com/six-days-2/.
For more on how old-earth cosmologists date the age of the universe, see Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_universe
It looks like a rather fun thing to see. Kinda like a jurassic park or disney world ish thing.... Hey.. jurassic world?
I however would not pay anything to go there. Like no damn way would I be a part of the payment for whoever tries to trick the kids there. XD
I was thinking more like an ancient Greece or Aztec mythology park. And yeah, even for a laugh I wouldn't want to fund it.
I would stop to take a look from the outside tho. As a building, it looks rather good.... Even tho it would probably sink strait away. XD
OMG. How fun would that be? If there was a flood there and the ship got killed. XD
+Caim Pact - 1:30 - It is not a boat. It is a building with a wooden facade in the shape of a boat from one side. It is secured by concrete pillars to the bedrock and the whole thing is bolted to a concrete platform. It is not a boat.
Of course, Noah, never had any boat either, so it is accurate in that sense.
Pot Dragon
??? Wait what? Im confuzled. XD I did find the last part funny tho...
Without mechanical ventilation and lots of it, All animals would have died. Also in the model, how would 8 old people been able to stand up all those vertical columns without cranes which hadn't been invented.
Magic....
They address that. You should go check it out ;-)
At what point in the video do they address that?
Not on the video; in the Ark Encounter. It's speculative, but interesting.
You gotta wonder, likewise, how Egypt built the pyramids, Stone Henge, etc.
15,000 people worked for 30 years on each pyramid. A 2000 lb stone can easily moved by 100 people but not by just 8. In the arc 2000 lb logs had to be moved by 8 old people without modern machinery. Can't be done. As for stonehenge, lots of workers ropes and ramps could muscle those stones into position. It has been duplicated using the same methods. The common denominator is lots of manual labor.
At 18:47--"Ken Ham just says's hay you're wrong."
No. That isn't what Ken says. What he says is: "You dare disagree with me? You will be tortured for all eternity for your effrontery." What a nice man.
Thanks for watching to the end -- more than what some others did! But what do you say to Ken Ham? "How dare you disagree with me? You will live the rest of your life in ignorance, leading others into ignorance, until you die and disappear." Neither one is nice. I like when someone doesn't play kissie face with his opponents, don't you? Give me the respect of calling me WRONG.
I would love to see Ken Ham and everyone else from Answers in Genesis try and sail this thing across the ocean.
I feel sorry for all the trees that gave their lives in vain to make it. :-(
well its true ignorance breeds religion .religion breeds religion keep them dumb keep them religious
Was it worth the cost of admission?
For me, yes. For most of the people I asked, yes.
So, Noah didn't need to bring all of the sea creatures, because all water life live in salt water? Oh wait, only in fresh water? Wait, wait, oh hell forget it. This never happened.
I hear it's as popular as Disney Land, except for actual visitors.
$100,000,000 Fairytale
55 bucks per adult PLUS parking fee of $15, that's the joke right there!
Ken Ham is The biggest Joke in avarice
I've seen snake rooms among reptile enthusiasts that were more impressive and the kid at three minutes in seems like he could be a natural born sceptic.
Thank you for the video.
do they show the lepurosy cure exibit at the ark. you use a live bird as a paintbrush and paint dead bird blood on the lepurosy parts and let the paintbrush bird go. that cures lepurosy . leviticus 14:7
KC..... Sorry you are WAY off... this is what all PRO baby killers want to see.... Please check more reliable sources other than some modern translation that FITS your views. Maybe King James?
Seventeen other translations do not contain the word “miscarries” but rather say something similar to, “May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells and your thigh wastes away” .
There is no evidence in the preceding or following verses to indicate that it in any way refers to spontaneous or induced abortion, nor does the original Hebrew carry that connotation.
You are wrong. period. And I won't lower myself to the level of your filthy mouth to make my point... I will pray for you.
Lucifer is called the 'accuser of the brethren'... When he tried to tempt Jesus to change His mind and agree with his evil plots... He said "get thee behind me Satan."
All religion aside, those are some gorgeous illustrations, damn.
That's what I'm saying. Regardless of belief, seeing the artistry and craftsmanship, plus the boat itself, were worth the visit.
As long as you recognise this is just a theme park with no educational value - like those Santa's North Pole experiences that spring up around Xmas - then I guess it could be a fun day out for some people. Personally, I prefer facts to fantasies and would rather visit a proper museum than this Bible/Disney mishmash.
I agree with InformationIsTheEdge that it's a nice video and you that it's quite a spectical. That said boy did I find a lot to complain about.
5:30 This is so incredibly wrong,
1) dinosaurs are extinct if you want to say it was easier to fit an incredible number of species or """kinds""" on the arc wouldn't it be easier to say dinosaurs didn't make it onto the arc so went extinct or dinosaurs were extinct before the great flood?
2) dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago before mankind walked the earth there's no way in hell they could of been on Noah's arc.
3) this doesn't actually apply to the dinosaurs because you know long extinct, but for the other animals a genetic bottleneck of two individuals would cause severe problems for the species, and we would be able to tell by looking at a species DNA that they had been through a bottleneck like that.
4) this doesn't apply to the dinosaurs but there's no global flood layer in the geological column, which we would expect of a global cataclysm like that.
5) the flood would of killed all plants on earth after being underwater for that long, how the heck did the bird Noah sent out come back with a branch?
6) see point 5 what did the animals eat after they left the arc? maybe that's why so many species are extinct? (no)
7) ken ham doesn't believe in evolution, except when it happens at warp speed to get to all of the millions of species we see today from just some 14,000 pairs
8) the way the arc was financed and the employment practices used were a violation of the first amendment.
11:30 why do they need maps? if everything is underwater you can't use them, star charts....maybe. but where are they navigating to?
18:00 debate? fact check? only about the biblical content. Every scientific claim is wrong, no need to check a good high-school education is enough to tell.
18:45 The thing that annoys me the most about ken ham is how wrong he is, no one who ever knew anything about dinosaurs thinks there were around when people where around.
19:00 there is no information about science, paleontology or biology there I assure you.
Here's why I removed my down vote. Keith presented an objective look at what is actually in Kentucky. I may disapprove of the attractions message but I shouldn't punish the messenger.
Your video was good. The presentation was quite good. Questions, attractions, activities... You covered them all quite well. I must still give this video a thumb down because it supports the Ark Encounter. The sooner this brain deadening monstrosity goes away, the better it will be for the children it is meant to indoctrinate.
Thanks for the kind word; I disagree with your decision to downvote but understand.
Keith Buhler
See? Now, because you are so amiable and reasonable, I am suddenly rethinking my down vote. It seems I can like you and your video well enough but it is the misrepresentation of science the park itself presents that prompted me to thumb down. I'm glad you and your family had such a good time.
Look, I get it. It's a tribe loyalty thing. Ken Ham is a bad guy, so anyone who says anything remotely nice about him (or even pays the admission fee!) must be part of his tribe and ipso facto a traitor to our side. I just wish I had a few more upvotes from the other tribe to balance things out haha.
+InformationIsTheEdge
One of my regrets, honestly, was bringing the kids because they distracted us from the all the readings. If I go back it will be just my wife and I (she has a background in philosophy, and I'm an academic philosopher) so we have the time and space to debate and discuss everything Ham presents -- and to Google everything. I am not emotionally offended by falsehoods (pseudoscience or otherwise), but I do like to come up with a cutting critique.
Keith Buhler There you go again, being all reasonable and likable. In the reasonable category, you make a good point. I did down vote because of the emotional aspect. I am quite scared of the power this kind of thing has to do damage to the education of children. Ham's message in particular is especially caustic in that way so I reacted to that. As I indicated in my original post, your video was quite good and presented very well. If it were a water park or Disney attraction, I would not have down voted. To escape the charge of hypocrisy, I shall remove my down vote. Keep up the good work!
I can appreciate that you are presenting it as-is without commentary I do have a problem with you saying "Ark Encounter is a museum, not a theme park". Although it is not at the quality of Disney or Universal they are in the same category of immersing you into a fantasy world.
I see your point (and understand you are making a pointed joked) but I stand by the categorization. Museums are a genre, whether or not what they present is true. Renaissance painting museums don't even purport to display truth, they display paintings.
That is the PROBLEM with Ken Ham, that he says "we" are wrong. The science robustly and conclusively has proven that Flintstones model of Ken's wrong over 150 years ago, and 99% of all working scientists and ALL published scientific research has refuted his model. So Ken saying "you are wrong" is not based on anything but bluster, and is evidence of his dishonesty. And you got what you needed out of the experience with the visuals. The placards and posters are all non-Biblical artistic license taken to the extreme. Flood geology and an Ice Age in the last 5000 years has been disproven and is nonsense. Ken Ham is preying on the ignorance of most of the guests, especially the children.
Thankfully, the Ark is not designed for kids.
+Keith Buhler - Are you merely uniformed or are you willfully deceitful?
Liar Ken has made it clear from the start his intentions to use this to indoctrinate children. There is a lawsuit pending, which AIG is fighting, to keep schools from having field trips to this disgrace. He has been interviewed DOZENS of times about this and believes that children need to be taught about gods genocide.
Don't pretend this is not about preaching nonsense to kids. And incest. Lots and lots of godly incest.
Yeah that's right, Yahweh murdered all the children. As a matter of fact, Moses was 600 years old and he was only allowed to take three sons and their wives? What about all his grandchildren, and great grandchildren. He must have see them all drown, mustn't he? No wonder he got drunk.
Pot Dragon, are you asking complex questions or wilfully drawing false dilemmas?
I suppose you'd prefer to teach kids that each and every one of them will eventually die, that the human race will eventually go extinct, and all light and energy will disperse -- so nothing really matters in the end. Good luck selling that!
"I suppose you'd prefer to teach kids that each and every one of them will eventually die, that the human race will eventually go extinct, and all light and energy will disperse"
Those things are all true, so we have to teach them. You are the one who concludes that the truth means nothing matters--its; your moral defect that you'd prefer to spend the rest of eternity singing hosannas to a genocidal monster. That would be meaningless.
It's not a museum.
It seems like a lot of comments come from people who are hurt and offended by the Ark's existence and horrified by its teachings to children. Dare I suggest you can enjoy the visual spectacle without believing it? And that you can pity all those who believe it without despising them?
Visual spectacle? In what sense? It is a fairly small building with a wood facade that is already weathering in an unattractive manner.
Oh, that's right, you think it is a "boat". Sigh. If it were in the water and floating it would be a fairly small boat compared to large vessels.
I guess in Kentucky, where they are dumb enough to build this monument to incest, it must be impressive.
Without despising them? When they try to enact laws based on their book of mythology that would force their religion on me? I am not offended by the attraction. I am offended that public funds were used (indirectly) to build it and that it lies to children.
I could explain it to you, but it's better to go.
Why is six flags cool? The rides. Why is surfing cool? The waves. Why is the Ark cool? The exhibits, the woodwork, etc. If you never see it, that's cool too.
Where you from?
Thankfully it's not designed for children.
Keith Buhler
That's good, because Mr. Ham's "museum" is designed for children.
that thing is disgusting.100% a joke, such a money scam. never take kids to a place like that, indicate the kids with lies!?
It should be called the face palm and sore forehead encounter.
By the way I liked the ROUS reference, I loved that movie lol
It looks really boring to me.
'BULLCRAP".....Cheers
Arguments and evidence can break my bones but sneers can never hurt me. Cheers!
It's disturbing to see children there. It's depressing to see so many people mistaking fairy tales for history.
I do actually think it's kind of rotten all the down votes but put yourself in our shoes. Most people don't hate you for your beliefs, it's more sadness about what your children are learning. The "ark" story isn't just kind of nonsense, it doesn't mesh with what ALL of reality tells us happened. I don't find it to be child abuse but I think a lot of us would like soee children educated with real evidence and actual science, You seem like a legitimately nice person and I'm sure you feel attacked but I think people are disappointed with their fellow man, they don't hate them. It turns my stomach to see how they manipulate facts with colorful images and all the children that will believe it!
Thanks for your comment. I totally get it. But thanks for getting my P.O.V. too!
The downvotes suck but I asked for it by making the video (the force is strong with internet atheists.) I actually love you guys. I am no longer agnostic but I used to be and still am active with my campus Secular Student Alliance.
Regarding the ark, I'm not teaching my kids (4 and 2) it's true or false yet because they don't "get" the difference between true and false much. I have already taught the older one Santa Clause is just pretend, which I think he gets. (You have to talk about Santa Clause cause so many damn kids books are about him.) And I've taught him dinosaurs are not pretend, even though they are very old and we don't see them anymore so all the cartoons/movies are just pretend. I teach him natural science as we go -- learning about the constellations, for example, and how sunlight causes plants to grow, how the digestive system works -- whatever he is obviously curious about. I try to match the curiosity with scientific knowledge without overloading him.
The point is, it's honestly rather advanced epistemology to draw distinctions between "never existed" (dragons) and "extinct" (dinosaurs) so I'm not so worried about it until he gets older.
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Have you heard of the Ark Encounter?
Absolutely... It's fascinating to me and I am thrilled you were able to go visit. I was just wondering what happened to my first post.. it disappeared! :) I was mentioning how great your vid was ...etc.
Absolute idiocy. I can't understand why we cling to our childhood fairy tales.
Yep everyone of sound mind and a rational brain should see it so they would understand how impossible this story could have been.
Yeah church for profit.....God is happy!
Still a better love story than No Man's Sky...
Oh who am I kidding...The Ark and No Man's Sky Suck !
many things are better left to the "imagination" perhaps better to say the "mind's eye" especially things related to our faith. To make a picture of Jesus, or other persons or things in the bible actually detract and pull down our depth of faith
You shouldn't take your kids there, you are filling their heads with nonsense.
Fact check? Google? Pick one. 'Googling' is NOT 'fact checking'. 8^)
Ken Ham is wrong and has been proven so time and time again. He is also low on the scale of the top Christian apologists but even the best lose under serious scrutiny. If the religion was so correct, why does it need defended so heartily?
Couple things stood out to me in the video, first was the children. Indoctrination was oozing off the content when the children were seen, skepticism not required for recognizing that one. The horrible biblical story of the beginning which only led to death and destruction was hurtful to watch and after that pops up the words, "God Revives Man's Hope." As the story goes, where does this hope come into play, man was put into exile and woman were cursed because of Eve. Cursed with a painful childbirth as if this natural reproductive process could possibly be painless. The discrimination of women has gone on for thousands of years and humanity is finally beginning to recognize why. Islam is worse of course.
Ken Ham's attempt to teach the Ark as some sort of historical and factual event instead of a tall tale is a joke. I noticed the verse of the fountains of the deep being opened, the waves would have been so unimaginably huge that the Ark as described would last no more than minutes. The theory is that the Ark was not afloat for the first forty days but floated only a few months once the earth was covered. How a person in their right mind could believe such fiction is beyond me.
What a wast of money, should have built a hospital.
Literally the largest monument in the world to human stupidity.
sad