How Imran Khan was removed, The PTI Cult and Army's intervention - Raza Rumi -
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- Raza Rumi comes on the podcast to set the record clear on everything happening in Pakistan.
Raza explains the Imran Khan phenomenon, the history of his 22 year struggle, how army interferes in politics and the philosophy of how cults operate.
Is politics in Pakistan just elite theatrics?
How do we bring real change in Pakistan?
Why should we celebrate the undoing of the Hybrid regime?
Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.
Raza Ahmad Rumi is a Pakistani policy analyst, journalist who has been the editor of Pakistan's English-language daily Daily Times. Raza Rumi is the founder of Naya Daur and an editor at The Friday Times.
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Shezar sahib thank you very much for bringing Raza Rumi sahib as guest speaker
Shehzad bhai, I believe it's time to bring back syed Muzzamil Shah to the show. We would love to hear his analysis on this current political situation. Please.
Yes yes please do that!
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Excellent interview. I hope Pakistan has a bright future. What ever starts with a lie does not end well. That was the story of Imran Khan's term. Going forward hopefully Pakistan will learn a lesson from this. The Army is a big hindernce to moving forward.
I thought that this was a very good program. However, I was very surprised by Mr Rumi’s sharp retort “Pakistan is a reality, accept it Bro!” The question was about Pakistan national heros. I don't think this question warranted such a defensive response. This indeed left a bad taste.
Well, most in India accept Pakistan. It is not even a talking point.
It looks that many in Pakistan still feel that we Indians resent Pakistans existence. For eg., I was shocked by the reaction of persons like Sheik Rashid, Waqar Younis, Shoib Akthar, etc after the india-Pakistan match last year. No interior/home minister of India has ever said that "it is a victory of Hinduism over Islam" when India has defeated Pakistan in a f****** cricket match. I grew up in a town in India where every morning I would hear the call of the azaan - It never bothered me as a Hindu, and in fact, was quite comforting. So, for Waqar Younis to say that "the best part of the match was " the Pakistani batsmen praying in front of Hindus" is obnoxious.
It betrays a deep hatred for India and Hindus - this is function of your education system, a problem well articulated by authors such as K K Aziz, Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed, etc
It perplexes me that even the more well educated and informed amongst you succumb to this.
Because we are brain washed from school where hate against hindus is propogated in Pakistan Studies. But then every state has its own state policies. Same happens in India about muslims. It is sad,but it does happen on both sides of the border.
@@LovethisLife785 Thanks for your reply. I studied in 3 cities in India. No textbook teaches hatred against muslims. In most schools and work places you have a similar distribution of muslims as the general percentage, I.e., 10-12%. Therefore, generally you don’t think of each other (hindus and muslims) as very different. While there are times when there is friction, generally there is no anti Muslim or anti Hindu narrative
Well said, and to the point analysis.
@@HOG1070 thanks
Excellent analysis. This retort is pretty common among the masses due to ages and ages of brainwashing. But I'm pretty sure certain intellectuals in Pakistan like Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed, KK Aziz and even Raza Rumi or even Shehzad Shaikh do not hold such thoughts. Only way for Pakistan to remove such anti-minority thoughts is by putting more emphasis on secular education.
Such a thought provoking session. It’s so sad that such quality content gets less views🤦🏻♀️
Very jovial and sharp analyst.
Great podcast ! Appreciated
What a brilliant discussion it was! I'm surprised why it has only 6k views.
Very in depth and articulate. Great analysis
Many years ago I was travelling
Next to me two gentlemen were sitting
Both them migrated to some European country
I was working in Saudi Arabia
We had a discussion about the situation in Pakistan
They were saying our children do not want to Pakistan and live in Pakistan
Their remarks were if you want to enjoy living in Pakistan
Then let your children join
Parliament
Beurecracy
Armed Forces
Then only you can live
Respectfully
Comfortably
Great guest. Finally a man with great stature
Shahzad, you are doing impressive work. Keep it up
A lot of analysis here is good. But in reference to what was said by you in terms of being 'biased/partial', this is what it looks like. Not a single word against PMLN was spoken by Raza Rumi sb. And it rarely ever is. Even talked about how ZAB and others called military dictators like Ayub 'daddy'. And also mentioned that Zia brought 'Political forces' to counter PPP in Punjab. Who were those forces? It was Nawaz Sharif and co., the ideological successors of Zia
Love your podcast. Getting clarity about subjects from intellectuals. Keep up the good work.
India is the only country which manage 135 crore people by democracy no one can do this
بہت عمدہ گفتگو، نہائت عالمانہ تجزیہ۔ اتنا طویل دورانیہ ہونے کے باوجود اسے یکسو ہو کر سُنا ہے۔ بہت اعلیٰ۔ زبردست، شاباش، ابھی بہت دانشور ہیں جنہیں پلیز بلائیے ان سے گفتگو کیجئیے۔
Rumi sahib
It's a matter of concern to me
When I
Hear
Look
Observe the
Political
Economic
Deterioting situation in Pakistan
It's nearly 2.30am here in Lahore
From the last one hour I am watching different programmes about the
Economic & Political collapse in Pakistan
Two days ago I raised concerns in my family
But no one was serious
Although they had concern
But at the same time their response was
It's a negative tales
Do not worry about it too much
It's all negative reporting
I kept quiet instead of arguing
Marvelous conversation
Once and all all the parties and Establishment should sit together
Find a solution for all the problems
From the grassroots level to the top most
Involving the business community
There has to be a long-term strategy
No one should be allowed to have vested interest
This time i watched complete podcast🥳♥️♥️
One of the best podcasts on TPE!!
wonderful attempt Shehzad bhai. Enlightening views of Raza sb.
Thank you for this podcast! so enlightening. 👏👏👏
Shazad- Kudos to you on your closing Statement. I like your optimism
You are right
From the last 76 years we all are trapped under the Loop
If you study the history of Pakistan
From day one until today
We are continously under
Emergency
It seems Pakistanis are all travelling in the same Ambulance in which our great leader
Qaid e Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah was travelling and incidentally the Ambulance stopped because of petrol shortage or breakdown
We never got a chance to get down out of the Ambulance
I have truly enjoyed your podcasts , I've been educated through these , how you have brought out the illnesses of our institutions and those who preside and blanket cover them . However of late I have noticed the agenda that is being manifested towards Imran Khan , this is pakistan , and I feel it will take a generation to put right what has been endemic in our society as a whole . I'm backing Imran because he is making the right noises , something we have not seen , and yes there are issues but we need a start , back imran , push on him the reforms needed and highlight his failings and address those allegations but back him to steer the nation in a direction its needs to go on , the other two parties can never be trusted again , but please stop this tirade and all join with imran to help open that door so that we can all walk through
🙌
زبردست
Loved the talk
Once I was Insafia but know i am a knowledgeable person
Thanks
Rumi sahib
Kiyun na mumkin hai
Take example of
India
Bangladesh
Did any General ever tried to take over and declare Martial Law in their country
Both the counties are progressing
Politically they are very strong
Economic growth in these countries is far more better than in Pakistan
How did I miss this gem!! Loved this talk! Raza, is podcast mein urdu ka tarka bohat acha laga❤
Love you shahzad bhai ,The great 👍 prodcast🤙
Shahzad please improve your image. It looks quite chalky. It should be soft like Raza Rumi's. It's not first time. I have seen many of your podcasts. Change the position of the light source
Mera bhi Imran Khan kee terhan ek surprise araha hay soon
Best podcast in Pakistan
What are the reasons why in Pakistan
No elected or selected government was allowed to complete their term of 5 years
Is it our politicians have failed to deliver or
The Generals are over ambitious
Since 1947 there's a tussle going on in Pakistan
About supremacy
Who is the best to run the country
Civilians or
Army
If only the small plant of Democracy was allowed to grow into a tree
Things would have been much better in Pakistan
If only our political parties and their leaders
Would have delivered then Pakistan would have been a different country
If only our over ambitious Generals not intertwined into politics and stick to their jobs of
External threat to Pakistan
Maybe we would have been in much better shape
Syed ahmed khan's behaviour towards women education and lower caste muslim's education was absolutely disgusting. I have no respect for that guy.
If I am not wrong
Early 1990 Imran Khan was supported by Jamat e Islami
Pakban tahreek
Great,
Allah Talaa sa Dua hai ki Raza Rumi Shb jald Chairman Senate Banai
Please invite Syed Muzzamil Shah
Bro i got a humble opinion. Please do podcast with guest in person, these zoom podcast have ear itching audio qaulity which obviously cant be fixed because the software is this way.
Hope you take this as a constructive criticism
Don’t you think that Imran has done a favour to the country by keeping the masses riled up on his jalsa so they don’t rebel against the elite ?
Yup please invite Syed Muzamil Shah... Have a detailed podcast on current and recent political scnario...
That guy is genius... 👍
" Paranoids have enemies, too " - Henry Kissinger
How will the military generals buy pizza franchise if army is nuetral
Shehzad: IK ki politics anti-awam hai kyun ke PML-N and PPP ke voters ko kuch samjhty nahi hain, ap patwari hain, ap jiyaly hain sab ghulam hain
Also Shehzad: Cult of PTI and Youthiye
Kya hypocrisy hai yeh?
Military is never leaving the civil scene. Karachi is a sieged city as rangers are sitting on top of people's head for decades now. I feel the guest is not accurate when he says that Pakistan is not as important a puppet as she was in the former decades. The West is not completely disengaged in Afghanistan as the new moves of the powers show.
By heroes he mean pakistani worshiping qasim babur ghazni like dacoits . They should worship true heros like Faiz ahmed , raja dahir , edi sahb etc.
Good work Shehzad
Hahahahaha QOM E YOUTH...love it raza
I'm Indian. I'm actually pretty interested in the discussion. Because thing is I could look at this more in unbiased way and i could look at parallels here back in India. What the guest spoke on Middle class is so right. But i don't think an individual is solely responsible for whatever is happening in Pakistan. It is mostly about the historical processes and imran Khan is just a symptom, even if he was not there, there certainly would have been someone who would have been in his place. Our subcontinent is just full of contradictions, now Pakistanis might not like it but existence of supposedly islamic Pakistan with Western democracy is contradictory in itself. So in order to compensate for this contradiction these forces keep coming up and this is not only limited to Pakistan,you can see ramifications of it in India where a right wing party who talks about 56 inch chest and giving back to Pakistan is in power. I think it's India's middle class's knee jerk reaction to Pakistan's existence and Pakistan's "terrorism" policies. In this all, it's only common people who suffer whatever might be their religion. Pakistani army needs India boogeyman narrative in order to stay in power directly or indirectly and India's right wing needs Pakistan to stay the same in order for it to justify it's "hindu" narrative. Sad state of affairs which we can't really stop, it's process which doesn't seem to have end in sight.
1:07:34 this...
Does rumi Sahab think , Altaf bhai will be allowed to make a comeback
following the footsteps of Mr jinnah when Mr raza rumi is going to start pakistan movement in US?
In 6 months you hv 17k views. There are other political vlogs that get this much views in 1 day. Think abt it !
I agree with the Khomani way Or MBS way
مجھے کیوں نکالا؟ - نواز شریف 2017
آپ نے مجھے کیوں چھوڑا؟ - عمران نیازی 2022
Mujhe Kyu Nikala? - Nawaj Sharif 2017
Mujhe kyu Choda? - Imran Niyazi 2022
मुझे क्यों निकाला? - नवाज शरीफ 2017
मुझे क्यों छोड़ा? - इमरान नियाज़ी 2022
Future of pak - US relations ?
Bhai chapter laga diya karo.
I dnt understand why raza rumi didnt said names of bin laden & burhan wani . bin laden & burhan wani both r national heros of pakistan
Raza Rumi saab! You lack info abt current regime of Bangladesh. It is the worst authoritarianism the country ever had :-(
Or rather should Altaf bhai be allowed to make a come back ( comeback kid :)
خود کو تقسیم نہ کرنا مرے سارے لوگو
Why did he leave civil service
Rumi sahab loog to pagal hain na . Aap embassy main kiya karahey theay
You should watch Mr. WaheedKhan's vlog about Imran Khan, he is a well known sports journalist in Pakistan. And you will know how big a liar Imran Khan is!
His vlog goes by the name of Cricketbaaz.
Please do watch.
Ghayas bhae ne saray liberals aik jagah jama kar rakhay hain. Nice.
Waisay intahai envious alfaaz istamaal huwe Rizvi saab k. Shayad mashriki maashara yahi sikha raha.
Bullshit. Aaj pata chal gaya ke Baghlol kyun yeh sab kar raha tha. Raza Roomi ko chahiye ke Ahmad Noorani se rabta kar ke 12 Arab ki chori ka hisaab le lein
Go your house and let me know if anything made in Pakistan has a place in your house. A nation who can’t fix a leaking toilet, the most bottom in invention and in education the most bottom. Your education is speaking good English and using brand name clothing and we talk what car we drive and our families go for brand name not books.
bekari media 😂
Bring syed muzzamil
میری جان جماعت اسلامی
Imran Khan is the MalcolmX of Pakistan, he is up there with revolutionaries like Sankara, Lamumba, Castro, Gaddafi and Nassar .... One man, this Lion of Pakistan has the courage to confront not just all Pakistani parties, the Pakistan Army, the Pakistani elite ... but also the entire western colonizers, including the EU, Britain, USA, Israel and NATO. The biggest celebrations after the ouster of Imran Khan took place in New Dehli and Israel.
LOL
3 months forward app bewakoof lag rahay hoo
Watch what u say
Ur a joke
IK ZINDABAAD 😘
Roomi ap NS ke cult mein mubtala hain
I have just unsubscribed this channel
Funded noon leagui
Aap log direct economy par bat karte ho kabhi normal batein karo
Whatever you guys were blaming imran for and praising pdm for, today pdm is doing exactly what you hated about imran but still you only blame imran. And the roles have reversed 180 degrees but both your views haven't. You were blaming imran for the amount of inflation and today that inflation is 3 times more.but you still support pdm and blame imran khan. Even though pdm is in the lap of the establishment.
bekaar podcast
lovely show... would like to follow you on social media any links please
shahzad bro kitchen word dekh k apko laga wo khatoon hai, naak kata de wokes ki hahaha