Note: I feel like I enjoy the Lallemand Farmhouse Saison more than the impression I may have given in the video. The different carbonation levels of the beers may have had more impact on the difference in taste than I anticipated. I should cycle back and do a triangle test between these two beers.
I do prefer the Lallemand over T-58 but the Lallemand is quite neutral. I might be biased but I wouldn't say these dry yeasts have any chance compared to the liquid ones.
What is your favorite liquid saison yeast? I have liked everything I have made with WLP565 (Dupont, Wy3724). The couple batches I made with Omega Saisonstein were also very good. I have found some batches others have made using some French Saison strains to be nice, but a touch bland (similar to using Belle).
Thanks! I have really been enjoying using more dry yeast lately. With a few tweaks to account for the lower attenuation, I think I could make a really nice version with the Lallemand Farmhouse yeast.
I'm actually pleased that you got an OK result from the farmhouse. I think it would be cool to see a temp comparison between a lower vs higher temp. I wonder if you pushed it up into the 80F range if it would kick off more peppery notes? Anyways, its hard to beat the Dupont strain for saison.
I definitely plan to use Farmhouse a try again. I think a few tweaks to the recipe to dry out the beer a little bit more and some higher fermentation temps might just produce a very nice saison. I have been enjoying the easy of dry yeast, but I am also fine with just harvesting and repitching WLP565 too.
Thanks for this excellent review, there's not a lot of user feedback on it yet! I've used it in a Belgian Blonde and it's really outstanding. It's possibly not as idiosyncratic as the Du Pont strain, but maybe more versatile. Anyway, for me it's head-and-shoulders above Belle Saison and T-58.
Glad you enjoyed the video. I am excited to try Farmhouse again. My girlfriend really loved this beer (better than the Dupont yeast version). I think swapping out a little malt for some sugar to help drive attenuation would help out this recipe a little.
@@CascadesHomebrew For sure, it's still attenuative, just not as nuts as your typical Saison strain. Pushing the temperature higher would be very interesting too, I think it may resemble the Du Pont strain much more if you do so. I'm brewing a Witbier with it atm, it smells and tastes very promising. I think it would be suitable for many Belgian styles considering its alcohol tolerance and wide temperature range.
Nice video! Ive been curios about this strain, but after seeing this I think I need to give it a crack myself! I noticed during your bottling and having different sized bottles - Do you take into account the size of the bottles for the priming sugar addition? I had a Belle Saison going for a little bit now that its been in the bottle for near six months I feel like it has gotten way better!
Give it a try! Yes, I tweak the amount of sugar based on the bottle size. I have to run my kegs at the same PSI at about 2.6 Vols, and I often bottle Belgian beers and target 3 Vols.
I have not noticed "tangy", but so far I have only used Farmhouse in this one batch. I have another pack that I have been wanting to put to use (though I just recently bottled 5 gallons of Saison with Belle, and I have 5 gallons of Brett Saison ready to bottle, so it might be a little while before I brew another Saison).
Note: I feel like I enjoy the Lallemand Farmhouse Saison more than the impression I may have given in the video. The different carbonation levels of the beers may have had more impact on the difference in taste than I anticipated. I should cycle back and do a triangle test between these two beers.
I do prefer the Lallemand over T-58 but the Lallemand is quite neutral. I might be biased but I wouldn't say these dry yeasts have any chance compared to the liquid ones.
What is your favorite liquid saison yeast? I have liked everything I have made with WLP565 (Dupont, Wy3724). The couple batches I made with Omega Saisonstein were also very good. I have found some batches others have made using some French Saison strains to be nice, but a touch bland (similar to using Belle).
@@CascadesHomebrew Can't say I have tried different saison strains very well but WLP566 is tasty and fruity, which is nice.
Cheers great breakdown! I also really enjoy Saison’s I’ll have to check out that dry yeast for sure.
Thanks! I have really been enjoying using more dry yeast lately. With a few tweaks to account for the lower attenuation, I think I could make a really nice version with the Lallemand Farmhouse yeast.
I'm actually pleased that you got an OK result from the farmhouse. I think it would be cool to see a temp comparison between a lower vs higher temp. I wonder if you pushed it up into the 80F range if it would kick off more peppery notes? Anyways, its hard to beat the Dupont strain for saison.
I definitely plan to use Farmhouse a try again. I think a few tweaks to the recipe to dry out the beer a little bit more and some higher fermentation temps might just produce a very nice saison. I have been enjoying the easy of dry yeast, but I am also fine with just harvesting and repitching WLP565 too.
Great video, thanks for posting! The audio sounds great by the way.
Glad you enjoyed it! At some point I probably need to get a better recording device, but I have made some setting changes that seems to help.
Nice video I plan on trying this yeast.
Great! Let me know how it turns out.
Thanks for this excellent review, there's not a lot of user feedback on it yet! I've used it in a Belgian Blonde and it's really outstanding. It's possibly not as idiosyncratic as the Du Pont strain, but maybe more versatile. Anyway, for me it's head-and-shoulders above Belle Saison and T-58.
Glad you enjoyed the video. I am excited to try Farmhouse again. My girlfriend really loved this beer (better than the Dupont yeast version). I think swapping out a little malt for some sugar to help drive attenuation would help out this recipe a little.
@@CascadesHomebrew For sure, it's still attenuative, just not as nuts as your typical Saison strain. Pushing the temperature higher would be very interesting too, I think it may resemble the Du Pont strain much more if you do so. I'm brewing a Witbier with it atm, it smells and tastes very promising. I think it would be suitable for many Belgian styles considering its alcohol tolerance and wide temperature range.
Nice video! Ive been curios about this strain, but after seeing this I think I need to give it a crack myself! I noticed during your bottling and having different sized bottles - Do you take into account the size of the bottles for the priming sugar addition? I had a Belle Saison going for a little bit now that its been in the bottle for near six months I feel like it has gotten way better!
Give it a try! Yes, I tweak the amount of sugar based on the bottle size. I have to run my kegs at the same PSI at about 2.6 Vols, and I often bottle Belgian beers and target 3 Vols.
Is it just me or is the farmhouse really tangy compared to like the belle saison?
I have not noticed "tangy", but so far I have only used Farmhouse in this one batch. I have another pack that I have been wanting to put to use (though I just recently bottled 5 gallons of Saison with Belle, and I have 5 gallons of Brett Saison ready to bottle, so it might be a little while before I brew another Saison).
@@CascadesHomebrew my batch actually had the tartness disappeared, could have been yeasts in suspension all along.