Ngl this is the most racist thing I've heard this week and i live in germany But why is it that when America hosted the copa we haven't heard a thing about how the violated human rights in Vietnam,iraq,Afghanistan, Korea even laos so many countries i can't even type also don't forget Palestine the media is out of hand fr.
Lol, Saudi Arabia itself isn't even for everyone. This is an incredibly disingenuous comment. It's not about borders on a map, it's about human rights - upon which both the USA and Saudi Arabia have a long way to go.
So mat went to Saudi Arabia last month and saw everyone happy but he assumed there are human rights violation! What a hypocrisy. As a Saudi women we live our life like queens in saudi arabia. Don't try force ur values on us or any other nation. We proud of our traditions, values. Remove this hatred and racist and negativity from you. Learn to accept the differences and live with others in peace. Dogs bark and caravan goes on. Long live Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦✌️
Infantino is ruining football/soccer. 2030 WC is going to be a nightmare. No reason to play in Saudi Arabia other than he and his cohorts are getting paid.
Better for countries like Saudi Arabia to host who can afford the lose than poor countries like Brazil or South Africa who should have built infrastructure for the people
@sully2151 I ain't from the west. Money's ruining football and the rest of the planet. Its ESPECIALLY ruining the lives of the global majority who doesn't live in the west
I think when it comes to Slater's attitude that this has the possibility to be a 'Good World Cup'. I do wonder how much that is Saudi being a genuinely potentially good choice for host nation (Certainly compared to Qatar) and how much that change in attitude is that we as fans and consumers have lowered our expectations after years of general FIFA shithousery. I'm more worried about that sort of unconscious bias slipping into how we evaluate these choices compared to the crude 'journalist has been bought off by limos and penthouse suite' influence.
While it is fair to criticise Saudi Arabia and Qatar hosting the World Cup for their human rights violations -- however, the United States/Canada MUST ALSO be criticised for their human rights violations as well, since they are also hosting the World Cup. Especially in light of the United States' and Canada's involvement in the Israeli occupation of Palestine, why is Western media only criticising and demanding the potential boycott of the World Cup in Saudi Arabia when the United States and Canada are just as bad (arguably even worse)? Or is it just because Americans and Canadians are white and are therefore exempt from being cruel to humanity? Edit: In fact, I'd go as far as to say that Westerns have no say in criticising the human rights violations in Saudi Arabi or Qatar when it is they who are always responsible for war.
Nope. Imagine the opposite, can Saudi criticise the West? They can’t. Their arguments will look a lot more hypocritical than the West’s criticism of the Middle East. As much as you disagree with the West and as low as standards are, they are in fact still standing on higher moral high ground. And the fact that the West is usually split into two, the atrocities are done by one half, the virtue signalling is done by the other half. The morally right half have the moral high ground. In the Middle East, it’s just one voice. You can point to and easily just blame one thing.
There’s plenty of westerners who don’t support what Israel is doing and who don’t support wars that their governments enter into, to suggest that they aren’t allowed to criticize human rights in Saudi simply because they are a westerner is utterly ridiculous.
At least let it make sense... Honestly, I don't understand how people allowed themselves to be brainwashed about Saudi and money. Don't get me wrong, they are doing good economically because they smart and also good at decision-making, But you need to understand that they weren't even in the top 20 on the GDP list prior to 2020, Now they are barley in the top 20 so it not about OiLl MoNnEYy (e.g., Venezuela). Regarding who is going to host it isn't their fault. Let me explain why. First off all Everyone has the right to bid. Others has the same right to bid as well but they didn't. I don't understand how was that their fault. Australia showed some interest but they didn't bid. IN THE END don't submit your brain to others do your own research look at how good their bid actually is. Don't get me started about the other stupid stuff that were mentioned.
@@beezergutler5488With responses like that, you're just giving regimes like the one in Saudi Arabia ammunition to distort the narrative to be about racism, instead of about the fact that they're literally funding terrorist groups.
it's like a funeral around here. Idk why you all are sad about Saudi Arabia hosting the WC there was not competition with Saudi. Stop injecting your hatred for Saudi Arabia into what i thought a professional Podcast. I'm really DISAPPOINTED.
They remove peoples hands for stealing, the have the death sentence for LGBTQ ppl, they MBS has had his political opponents arrested and killed to take power.
They don't allow women to drive on their own, most women need a male guardian to make sure she's oppressed. Ppl in KSA are young and yet have never been able to vote, children as young as 14 have been found to have been tortured for protesting for the right to vote and children that young have also been killed by the state security forces
So, they're happy to be part of the Asian confederation when they want the WC, but they'll abandon it at the first talk of Champions League football for SPL clubs 🙄. Let's be honest: FIFA had to recoup the lost EA Sports money somehow. Corruption was the quickest way.
this made me think about ea losing the licensing to brand their game as “fifa”. because honestly if i’m ea i have the biggest football video game, do i really want it to be associated with this corrupt organization?
You're right about FIFA, but clearly you need to do some research on EA if that's what you think. They were voted the worst company in America on multiple occasions, and the criticism of their business practices is so enormous, that it has its own Wikipedia article. They are absolutely the type of people to get in bed with a corrupt organisation like FIFA.
I thought I'd never see someone more corrupt than Blatter but Infantino is something else. Not talking about this decision but about all the other questionable things he has done.
When are the clubs going to wake up to their valuable assets, the players, being used and abused by FIFA for its enrichment? All the while the clubs paying huge wages to the players. Surely some of the players must see what is going on and refuse to play in these games. International Football as run by FIFA is just an unending huge money grab.
You didn't mention that this regime literally cut into pieces an opponent in the Saudi embassy in Istanbul.... Why don't you interview his wife to know what she thinks about all this ??? What about terrorism? Aren't they financing terrorist groups ??? Like Qatar, this is a horrible choice for a World Cup....
What a load of tosh! Strangest conversation ever, people and countries are different and have different values, we should embrace them and not expect everyone to be the same.
We should embrace North Korea? Should we embrace the Victorian age in uk and and make our kid work in factories with no heath care? Things change and things should change.
@@Goonershhhh they said they want to change, they want western sports and what we value for their monetary gain. guess what they should have to change to welcome us.
The applause instead of vote reminds me of the Star Wars quote: “ so this is how decomocracy dies… with thunderous applause “
Infantino **is** the senate.
Money, saved everyone 50 minutes
I didn’t think FIFA could get any more corrupt after Blatter but they have managed to do it. Hypocrisy on an enormous scale.
because they paid Infantino the most money to his personal bank account?
"Cant wait to go to Saudi Arabia on vacation!" - absolutely no one ever
'Saudi Arabia unlike Qatar is a genuine football nation' - honestly quite hilarious coming from someone like Matt and I'm not even Qatari lol.
Ngl this is the most racist thing I've heard this week and i live in germany
But why is it that when America hosted the copa we haven't heard a thing about how the violated human rights in Vietnam,iraq,Afghanistan, Korea even laos so many countries i can't even type also don't forget Palestine the media is out of hand fr.
exactly
This is a genuinely based take. I'm glad people are finally getting wise to American propaganda.
Bribery
guys, football is not just for europe... its a global sport so accept it and move on
Lol, Saudi Arabia itself isn't even for everyone. This is an incredibly disingenuous comment. It's not about borders on a map, it's about human rights - upon which both the USA and Saudi Arabia have a long way to go.
I suggest for everyone one want the real answer for this question . Go look for Saudi bid and evaluate by your self without being influenced by media.
And it all come backs to human rights when countries other than the west and europe host the world cup
If they want the wests wealth and influence then they have to change.
Are you telling me that football is an industry embedded in global capitalism!?!?!?! NO WAY!
So mat went to Saudi Arabia last month and saw everyone happy but he assumed there are human rights violation! What a hypocrisy. As a Saudi women we live our life like queens in saudi arabia. Don't try force ur values on us or any other nation. We proud of our traditions, values. Remove this hatred and racist and negativity from you. Learn to accept the differences and live with others in peace. Dogs bark and caravan goes on. Long live Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦✌️
Whats Wrong With Saudi Oil??? UK Exports Crude Petroleum never heard a problem with that 🤣
They will want the women’s World Cup next
Good coverage by Matt, underappreciated
Excellent and thoughfull debate
So the measurement of progress towards a civil society is measured by how happy someone looked in a football stadium.
Poor jacob just wants to cover the toon man
Infantino is ruining football/soccer. 2030 WC is going to be a nightmare. No reason to play in Saudi Arabia other than he and his cohorts are getting paid.
SAUDI will host WC in 2034, so after 10 years dummy lol
Better for countries like Saudi Arabia to host who can afford the lose than poor countries like Brazil or South Africa who should have built infrastructure for the people
Jacob looks knackered, i would be too if i had to consistently talk about the downfall of football
downfall? the west were saying that before the WC in Qatar, and it was one of the best WCs in the history.
@sully2151 I ain't from the west. Money's ruining football and the rest of the planet. Its ESPECIALLY ruining the lives of the global majority who doesn't live in the west
@@sully2151no it wasn’t
I think when it comes to Slater's attitude that this has the possibility to be a 'Good World Cup'. I do wonder how much that is Saudi being a genuinely potentially good choice for host nation (Certainly compared to Qatar) and how much that change in attitude is that we as fans and consumers have lowered our expectations after years of general FIFA shithousery. I'm more worried about that sort of unconscious bias slipping into how we evaluate these choices compared to the crude 'journalist has been bought off by limos and penthouse suite' influence.
While it is fair to criticise Saudi Arabia and Qatar hosting the World Cup for their human rights violations -- however, the United States/Canada MUST ALSO be criticised for their human rights violations as well, since they are also hosting the World Cup. Especially in light of the United States' and Canada's involvement in the Israeli occupation of Palestine, why is Western media only criticising and demanding the potential boycott of the World Cup in Saudi Arabia when the United States and Canada are just as bad (arguably even worse)? Or is it just because Americans and Canadians are white and are therefore exempt from being cruel to humanity?
Edit: In fact, I'd go as far as to say that Westerns have no say in criticising the human rights violations in Saudi Arabi or Qatar when it is they who are always responsible for war.
Nope. Imagine the opposite, can Saudi criticise the West? They can’t. Their arguments will look a lot more hypocritical than the West’s criticism of the Middle East. As much as you disagree with the West and as low as standards are, they are in fact still standing on higher moral high ground. And the fact that the West is usually split into two, the atrocities are done by one half, the virtue signalling is done by the other half. The morally right half have the moral high ground. In the Middle East, it’s just one voice. You can point to and easily just blame one thing.
There’s plenty of westerners who don’t support what Israel is doing and who don’t support wars that their governments enter into, to suggest that they aren’t allowed to criticize human rights in Saudi simply because they are a westerner is utterly ridiculous.
And western media reported on the abuses in Qatar on behalf of the families of people who *DIED* to build their stadiums. Should they also shut up?
At least let it make sense... Honestly, I don't understand how people allowed themselves to be brainwashed about Saudi and money. Don't get me wrong, they are doing good economically because they smart and also good at decision-making, But you need to understand that they weren't even in the top 20 on the GDP list prior to 2020, Now they are barley in the top 20 so it not about OiLl MoNnEYy (e.g., Venezuela). Regarding who is going to host it isn't their fault. Let me explain why. First off all Everyone has the right to bid. Others has the same right to bid as well but they didn't. I don't understand how was that their fault. Australia showed some interest but they didn't bid. IN THE END don't submit your brain to others do your own research look at how good their bid actually is. Don't get me started about the other stupid stuff that were mentioned.
Why not ?
Australian got stiched up vs Qatar, we would never run against oil money again.
I don't understand, why it's wrong that Saudi hosts a world cup? Every country wanna do it for money, not just Saudi.
Because Saudi is buying up every sport they can get their hands on in an attack on western culture. Let them stick to camel racing.
@@beezergutler5488With responses like that, you're just giving regimes like the one in Saudi Arabia ammunition to distort the narrative to be about racism, instead of about the fact that they're literally funding terrorist groups.
Fans can always organise their own world cup with lower league players.
it's like a funeral around here. Idk why you all are sad about Saudi Arabia hosting the WC there was not competition with Saudi. Stop injecting your hatred for Saudi Arabia into what i thought a professional Podcast. I'm really DISAPPOINTED.
They un alive journalists, cry more
They remove peoples hands for stealing, the have the death sentence for LGBTQ ppl, they MBS has had his political opponents arrested and killed to take power.
They don't allow women to drive on their own, most women need a male guardian to make sure she's oppressed. Ppl in KSA are young and yet have never been able to vote, children as young as 14 have been found to have been tortured for protesting for the right to vote and children that young have also been killed by the state security forces
Assuming the rules don't change, des this mean that CONCACAF gets 2038?
So, they're happy to be part of the Asian confederation when they want the WC, but they'll abandon it at the first talk of Champions League football for SPL clubs 🙄.
Let's be honest: FIFA had to recoup the lost EA Sports money somehow. Corruption was the quickest way.
Money makes the World go round as they say Simple as that
it's a rethorical question I hope , right?
this made me think about ea losing the licensing to brand their game as “fifa”. because honestly if i’m ea i have the biggest football video game, do i really want it to be associated with this corrupt organization?
You're right about FIFA, but clearly you need to do some research on EA if that's what you think. They were voted the worst company in America on multiple occasions, and the criticism of their business practices is so enormous, that it has its own Wikipedia article. They are absolutely the type of people to get in bed with a corrupt organisation like FIFA.
I thought I'd never see someone more corrupt than Blatter but Infantino is something else. Not talking about this decision but about all the other questionable things he has done.
When are the clubs going to wake up to their valuable assets, the players, being used and abused by FIFA for its enrichment?
All the while the clubs paying huge wages to the players. Surely some of the players must see what is going on and refuse to play in these games.
International Football as run by FIFA is just an unending huge money grab.
The dog barks, but the caravan goes on
Money!
FIFA, sports washing, Saudi, 100 million payments. it's all a bit shady.
"Might Saudi Arabi be a good choice for a world cup?"
Oh, so they've paid you guys as well then!
Money.....I wonder will fans ever actually do anything about all the crap being dumped on them lately in this "sport"
Greed is the answer
Let me guess: Money and lack of interest from other nations. But mostly money.
Because fifa is corrupt
Money 🤑💰💰💰 that's it
You didn't mention that this regime literally cut into pieces an opponent in the Saudi embassy in Istanbul....
Why don't you interview his wife to know what she thinks about all this ???
What about terrorism? Aren't they financing terrorist groups ???
Like Qatar, this is a horrible choice for a World Cup....
Corruption!!!
Corruption.
Oh great, another world cup i won't watch.
Oh, what loss for humanity !!
@@moustafabenzian1345 You jest, but the corruption of the World's greatest sport is a great loss indeed.
Will you be watching the American one? 😊
@@Mrivlian it has always been corrupt.
cope
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£££££
What a load of tosh! Strangest conversation ever, people and countries are different and have different values, we should embrace them and not expect everyone to be the same.
We should embrace North Korea? Should we embrace the Victorian age in uk and and make our kid work in factories with no heath care? Things change and things should change.
@ yes fine if your country has those values but to then try to impart them same values onto others isn’t right. Almost new age colonialism
@@Goonershhhh they said they want to change, they want western sports and what we value for their monetary gain. guess what they should have to change to welcome us.
@@darrell5403 you can always not watch and protest in your own way.
@@Goonershhhh ok….? Why are you making assumptions about me? Did I say I’m protesting? Did I say I’m not watching?
Crazy killing the planet nonsense. Unsub
Bye 🙋♂️
Why not?