THIS BLOWS!! Cobra's NEW WHEELS & TIRES are TERRIBLE!!
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- After finding the perfect deal on wheels & tires for my terminator cobra, it was time to throw them on and it was nothing short of disappointing. The fitment was not as good as I thought it was going to be. New plan...
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My 01 I have staggered bullitt wheels that are 17s with 305x35r17s an my setup definitely doesn't have that much gap or at least doesn't look like that. Idk if it's a difference in cobra an gt an Irs an solid axle or not either tho
If you get a fatter sidewall in the rear the cobra should look alright besides the function of gapping some newer cars will make you forget about the way it looks besides you can't see the wheels when you're
I had use spacers an I also did 11 an half wide Cobra rep wheels in back
17x11 an half
Hey derek you ever figure out which way that spacer went in? I ran into this issue today. The bevel go in or out? Lol
Hey Derek!! I don’t think it looks that bad! Maybe for the rear get a bigger side profile/aspect ratio?!? Like a 40 ?! Should close that gap a bit!! They look good imo!
The 315/35/17 will definitely give you a gap usually the rear tires goes smaller on side wall cuz the car is dropped more so they do that to not rub but I’m sure if you put a meatier tires on the rear it will clear that gap definitely a 45 or 50 side wall would do
315/35 is the exact same height as stock 275/40 and stock gt and Mach 245/45 size. The aspect ratio is a lower number but the width is a much higher number so it evens out at the same height overall height and sidewall.
The rear tire size is fine. The problem is the big 275/40s up front. Go with a 255/40 to get more of a raked look. Also the reason the rear looks smaller than the front is because you have the deep dish rear and stock fronts. The spokes of the wheel are more set in almost giving the illusion that the wheel is smaller.
Running a 315/40 or 45 on the rear is gonna look ridiculous and probably rub your fenders if they aren’t rolled. I would change the fronts and lower the car a little more. I recommend h&r supersports or coilovers to dial it right where you want it
@DerekBaranProductions 40 is a taller tire which closes the gap more cause obv the rear is now a 35 sidewall which is smaller, i love the way it looks but i agree with you on the weird look. I say just swap the tire's with a 40 sidewall and it will look just right, btw on blueifer are you running the 19x10/19x11 SVE R355 setup? thanks in advance. Great video as always.
315/35 is NOT shorter than 275/40 they are the same height same sidewall just wider that is a proven staggered combo on sn95 mustangs since before some of yall were born lol. It's amazing how many people don't understand how tire sizing works smh
I personally love cobra wheels, I have a 95 GT convertible and even tho it had the 5 soft spoke best looking OEM wheels but that's not saying much but I found some decent knock off 95 Cobra R 18x9 chrome wheels I bought 265/35 tires and I also put 1.5" spacers in the rear and 1" spacers on the front and wow total transformation! It looks so badass. Unfortunately I hit a pothole and put a flat spot in the front rim, 35s are not ideal in maine but they look so nice, so I need a rim but after seeing it with these 18x9s I really want a couple 18x10 with the dish for the rears, any tire starting with a 3 are pretty pricey but looking I see a 285/30 pretty affordable. Seems there's waaaay more tire choices for 17" for some reason but I so love the look of 18s. Black rims are the in finish these days and I've seen some dropped murdered out ones with black wheels look pretty sick but i personally don't really care for the black wheel look and Lazer red, white top with those chrome cobra 18s sparkling in the sun looks pretty sexy imo.
Full Tilt has come out with good low profile IRS bolts that have a stock style head on it. Can't link them here. If you are not happy with your stock ground down bolts they are $20
Definitely want a set of those!
I absolutely love those wheels, in fact I have always said I would do that same wheel setup on my 03/04 Cobra if I ever got one. I hopefully will be adding one to my garage with my Shelby in a year or 2…
The 18” set would definitely look better in my opinion but try a 40 sidewall if you’re going to keep them. Sounds like a very small difference but you will definitely see a difference. My 03 mach1 had 35 sidewalls and my buddys 04 gt had 40 and it was a huge difference looking at em next to eachother. And if that wheel gap still doesn’t go away maybe try take out the rear spring isolators and just wrap the top and bottom of the springs with electrical tape to ensure no creaky noises. That should give u maybe a quarter to half an inch too.
Not to say that the 17’s look bad by any means because they don’t, I totally love that you are keeping it like oem plus.
Yeah that was my next step
I’ve never needed low profile IRS bolts.. even with 11.5” CCWS..
But it was darn close!
Good wheel company’s know how to get the offset perfect where you don’t need it. But you do need rolled fenders with the 11.5s.
If it doesn’t get the grinder out.
looks good man. I think it would look better with the matching fronts and it definitely needs a taller tire in the rear, but it looks better than stock for sure
Yeah bigger tore definitrly
I totally understand what you mean by the weird look of the rear tires, they're definitely to small, probably best to upsize the rear tire, orrr downsize the fronts to a 35 sidewall, either should make it look better. But with smaller tires you probably wanna lower it more. Either or bro they look clean I'm glad you're going with a purist look on the cobra it's gonna look perfect when you dial it in!!
315/35 is the same height as 275/40. Idk why people think it's shorter because it has a 35 aspect ratio. I don't think most people understand how tire sizes work lol.
@@midnight347 the problem is the rear looks to small. Doesn't matter if they're the same size height
I bought SVT center caps on ebay for $100 and they fit in perfect with my LMR aftermarket staggered wheels (same as you just got)... BUT, my car came with CCW's, so im assuming the previous owner shaved that bolt down and/or replaced the center cap bolt bolt to help the caps fit. Thats probably what happened.
Ahhhh okay
Taller rear for sure maybe throw an inch spacer on it too. Maybe lower it just a notch but its definitely not horrible. In my opinion, I like the chrome better though, give s it more of a cruiser look. You should throw some LED side markers on it too bro
Yeah ima see what i can figure out
You should have went with the 18” AFS replica wheels like on my car! They are the “right look” for a better than oem look.
And my fenders aren’t rolled either, check out the fitment 👍.
And my terminator isn’t a maintenance queen lol🙈
I agree and I can also respect trying to kept the car original as possible but if ya gana switch up factory wheels then the 18s will not only look amazing but help with the wheel gap..
They are impossible to get right now and people want too much for a used set. I like them too but not for 2k +
I have the same set up he just threw on Medusa and would absolutely do AFS replica's too, IF I could find them...
CCWs > AFS
18 in are too big my dude 17s are like the perfect ones without making it look gangster.
Bro. It’s a point of perspective…if you ran larger spacers on those originals you had in the back, you’d see the same gap. I think, in my opinion here, enjoy it now, and when it’s right get you the coil overs you want for Medusa. OR…you could cut your springs one full coil, depending on how low you want it. THEN, still need it lowered?…cut .5 coil out of it and check that out. Good luck my brother. Good catch on those set of wheels too. OH!…one more thing: stock 245/45/17 are 25.7” tall. Those 315/35/17?…yep. Same. 25.7” tall.
It really doesn't look bad, but I feel your pain. Those rear tires that came with the new rims don't have a lot of life left like you said. Just buy a set of taller tires sooner or later depending on how long you can live with the current set up. I don't know the size of your original rims compared to the new ones, but would the original tires work on the new rims?
I had the same wheels on my 04 Terminator. Had a 275 front tire and 335 rear. Absolutely loved the stance! I have missed that car everyday since I sold it.
Bro I love that flat face up front and the lip in the back, but you need to run a 315/45/17 in the rear and that will fill in that wheel gap. You could probably even get away with a 305/45/17
Trueee
You need to go 18s. Any deep dish wheel should be 18s or 19s. 17s only look good if your slammed. I have 18” AFS Cobra Reps (check profile pic) and they sit just perfect. A great 18” deep dish wheel is Cosmis XT005R and they look nice on these cars.
Wish i could find those
AFS 18x9/10.5 look great on these cars, but you just can’t beat the look of a nice set of 3pc wheels. I sold my AFS wheels years ago ( when they cost $950) thinking that I would retreat it, but that wasn’t the case. Go with 18s and you’ll be amazed by how much better the car looks.
I am surprised you went with a deep dish in the back. Imo deep dish wheels themselves look way smaller than a normal wheel. If you want a stock look I would do the 18" afs chrome cobra wheels. You can still get a 315 or 335 r888.
Yeah i might look around for some different ones
The car will settle down a little more once you go for a drive. Make sure the spring isolators are out of there. You don’t need them. I’m running H&R race springs on my cobra without isolators and it sits lower.
What i would do is just drive to a tire&rim store have a store employee take a couple different size wheels from 17-20 inches with different widths and offsets to see how it will fit the car before spending the money most shops are happy to help or atleeast guide you in thenright direction you gotta take the initial ride height into account if you havent lowered the springs i did my wheels rims lowering springs control arms new bushings & bearings new rotors & brakes new calipers new sway bar all at once to save time & cost of labor its a completely different car now but more work to be done
That Black Termi is The One to have! 04 Termi black with the Dark seats and a whipple and the chrome wheel set up is perfect to me!
Ayeeee
Remove the isos in front and rear, I'm running H&R race springs with no isos and the gap is perfect and then if you still don't like the side wall difference, go to a 255 40 17 and the front sidewall will be slightly smaller and will give you a little bit more of a raked look
Ohhhh okay okay good deal
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Yeah, I think the stockies look better. The new rears don’t look aggressive @ all.
It's not low enough and the deep dish looks like trash on terminator style wheels. Regular stock style 10.5 inch rears look much better.
@@midnight347 the deep dish wheels don't look bad at all on these cars. All my mustangs always have 17x8 at the front with 17x9s at the back, gives them a really good look especially if the tires are Mickey Thompson's at the back. Regular dish all the way around just doesn't look good and deep dish all the way around just looks retarded.
Yea if the fitment on those wheels is for a straight axle and not IRS it won’t be pushed out enough. It looks pretty good tho atleast. You want a 305 or 315 / 35 / 18. Front 275/ 35/18
I never ran low profile IRS bolts or shaved mine down. That interference your seeing is only when the car is off the ground. When it’s on the ground there is tons of room. I never had an issue running 315s on 10.5 wheels.
I kinda did the same thing you did to my Challenger I had 315/35/20 wheel gap was hideous even with eiboch sport line lowering springs I ended up going with 305/40/20 made a huge difference with a taller side wall.
They don't make a 315/40 in 17 inch size 315/35 is same height as stock 275/40 he just needs to lower the car more.
Oh nice!!
@@midnight347 ya the 315 was what I said was on my Challenger rt he may need to go with a 275/40/17 I know Nitto makes that size but not sure on a 305/40/17
@@midnight347 they do make a 305/45/17 though which is probably what he needs to fill all that well gap.
I run the same size setup with some 10th anniversary reps. Definitely not that much wheel gap in the rear. Maybe mins a little lower
I did H&R reds…and 25 mm spacers in the back..which by the way gets rid of any wheel hop…the wheels are original Ford Racing FR500 wheels…which went out of production in 2008..nice Cobra…keep up the good work…😀😀
Dude i love how the R888Rs grip but the fitment in new edges is hard to get right. I have a vortech 2 Valve Bullitt (Miss you Blue 2V😢) with 295 30R-18s and its even worse looking. But i like my 1.8/1.9 60 foots with only having 390 whp😁
I'm currently running the same 295-30-18s and believe it or not this size is wrong (too small/rubber band) and with 295s we need 35 or 40 to get it right 🤷🏻♂️
Ahhhhhh okay i see
@@manaaalsuwaidi3643 yes very true. I had the fitment looking great with Nitto NT555RIIs that were 305-40R-18s. Had to roll the fender a little. But they are a little pricier than the R888Rs.
@@DerekBaranProductions try the NT555RIIs at 305-40R-18. Or NTO5Rs since your gonna do that Hellion Hellraiser twincharged kit😉
I’ve been trying to get a spacer for my rear for so long. Hasn’t come back in stock, can’t wait to do it, makes the rear way more aggressive
CJ pony has them
@@DerekBaranProductions I usually go to American muscle, but I guess I should widen my search lol. Gonna look nice on the stang. Also love the Cobra, my dream ride right there.
got this setup except without the larger ones in the back, but for 200 in st. pete FL
You can sale the ones you just got and get the replica in 18s and just go with beefier wider tire in back. They come in offset for the 18s. The back wheel is 18x10. The 18s will fill up the fender gap.
Still can’t get over how shiny the original paint is outstanding! Thank god for Joel! If you lower the back will it look better? I think it will!
He came in clutch forsure!!!
Loving the cobra..I’m a purest when it comes to stangs..but saw a 03/04 cobra in my town rocking 2020 GT500 Shelby fender badges on there’s..and wow!!!!looked like it belonged on there..there a tiny bit bigger then the stock cobra’s on the fenders and new appearance of them would look sick on your ride..food for thought😃
40-50 side wall would fill the tire gap so 315/45/17 315/40/17 315/40/17 I’d start there or get a 30 side wall in the front but then you’ll have major gap
They don't make very many tires in those sizes if any at all. A 315/45 would be HUGE like a 28 inch tire at least idk the math right off but it's way taller. They come stock with 275/40 which is the exact same height as 315/35. 275/40 and 315/35 is a proven staggered combo for 17s on these cars they're the same height just wider on the rear.
Looks decent but never was a fan of the deep dish cobra wheel. A stock style 10.5 wheel would be my vote. Perhaps a tad more drop in the rear and installing the matching fronts would look ok in the meantime.
Yeah thats the style i originally wanted
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@@kmjmotorsports it’s a lil hard but if you use an ice tank and remove the front tank it’s rite there when you look down.
I’ve got the same rear deep dish on my car , don’t even think about putting micky et street r on them they will rub the fenders and cut the tire , and yes same springs h and r race .
I also want to sell mine as well .
I’ve been rocking the look way too long .
DD Cobra's reps were never a hit for the reasons you point out. The dish made the rear wheel look smaller in diameter.
Ahhhh maybe thats whats going on
@@DerekBaranProductions Also the tape trick was around the inner portion of the cap ring to keep is secure in the hub not the lip edge on the wheel.
I think it looks decent but you could try IRS bushings with less thickness to raise subframe which would reduce the gap. Just a thought.
Yeah this IRS was rebuilt already too
Welcome to my current world, seems like everytime I do a upgrade to my New Edge that I think is cool something has to go wrong and either look horrible or not fit right, I'm so exhausted and annoyed I'm taking a few months break then regroup on solutions...
It happens!
I think the faced stock wheels up front and lipped wheels in the back look weird. I've seen a few cobra's what 315s on stocks on Google. Not sure if they ran spacers or not
Get yourself a pair of 18s black chrome rovos like blue had the black rims get the black chrome for this and slap the toyo 335 18 30 on it and it would look killer. 17s will always look too small
I like the 17s look on newedges
@@DerekBaranProductions I mean hey, you get to do you my man. excited to see whats next for the cobra regardless! is it going to mustang week with bluesifer ?
My friend has 18x12 on his 04 cobra and it fills it in perfectly. I think he said he used to run a 325 or 335 on it
Also had rolled fenders
Oh dang!!
@@DerekBaranProductions I believe the brand he has are American Renegade. They are the black deep dish cobra replicas.
I hate when I buy new items and it doesn't work out. I know you will get it figured out!!
Just a slight delay!
A 40 or 45 sidewall would close that gap up pretty good! My gfs step dad runs 315/40s on his but he’s running cosmic rims so I’m not sure what inch size they are
They don't make that size in 17. 315/35 is the same height as 275/40 it's a proven staggered setup on these cars same height just wider. If he wants the wheel gap gone he needs to lower it or lower it more if it already has a minor drop. These cars sit look 4x4 stock and need tk come down.
@@midnight347 so your trying to tell me a 35 sidewall is the same as a 40 with the same tire brand? Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think it works like that.
That sounds like it would fit nice!
@@DerekBaranProductions they look pretty clean I’ll try and get his tire size later today and I’ll dm it to you! And he’s running r888s as well
Let the rear suspension settle by driving it when you jacked it up with park brake on it extended your rear shocks now just need to drive it to settle back down looks great though ( needs bagged )
Oh trueee
You should throw the stocks back on and put half inch spacers on. That would look great!!
honestly i love the deep dish over the stocks however you either need a larger side profile on the tires or lower it more
The cobra looks good black but I’m hoping one day you do get it wrap bright Atlantic blue it would sick!!!
AFS 18” reps are the way to go to keep the stock look, but 18’s look way better. Plus they have the right fitment for no spacers
Yeah im about to look to see if i can find some
Damn, I didn't think I would find someone more particular then me with my cars LOL. I think it looks good, but you know what you're gonna be happy with, do what you think is best!
I’m running a the same thing but I found out it’ll look better if you were to run like a 315/50
I ran into a similar issue buying used wheels for my Shelby a 315/45/17 will make a world of difference🤝
Trueeeee
I think because both front and rear are 17inches is what is affecting the look.
This could be
Yeah DBP just get a bigger side wall tire for the rear like a 315 40 or a 45 r17 to close the gap cause on my coyote im running a 285 45 r19 with the same lowering spring front and rear cause as long as yopu have the side wall matching the front spec it will turn out the same look
Deep dish over stock, 7 days a week. Lower front 1/2 inch, up size to a 40 sidewall in the rear then go from there on fitment fam. If you still selling blue2v old drag pack hmu
Yeah man didn't sit right, either a taller tire or a whole different set up. But I know you'll find something that works, those headlights are lookin super fresh too
On my sn95 I ran a 305 40 17 look fine filled all wheel gap
The r888r would look better on the stock cobra wheels but will still have the same gap you're going to need coilovers.
It doesn’t look bad I’d run a 40 sidewall in the rear and I’d throw the fronts on too looks a little off with the fronts not being deep dish
If you want the sauce, get sve 19x11 and 45mm spacers. 295/40r19 are BIG BOIS
Haha those are big
@@DerekBaranProductions whole lotta traction 💪🏻 🤣
Tbh i ran a 295/45/18 on 10.5 fr500 and it was the best fitment out of any of my cars!
Oh nice!
Put a big meat Larry Hoover 305 comin live on the stocks with the spacers you got from Ed. You said you got a good deal on the aftermarket jawns. I'd sell them and go with an aftermarket forged 5 spoke wheel 🤷♂️ you can still keep an oem look while simultaneously having a noticeably classy upgrade.
So many Mustangs in Richmond. you won't have a problem selling them
Seen those wheels and tires on Facebook. They sold kinda quick lol Whoever wasn't asking much, but the tires were almost gone in the rear.
Also the deep dish terminator style wheels don't look that good imo. Better off with a stock style 10.5 inch wheel imo. Deep dish looks good on these cars just not that style wheel.
Yeah i can agree
I’m with you Derek! I’m not digging the wheel to fender gaps. 😬 Maybe try another tire.
Should really invest in a 1/2” impact with impact sockets. The 3/8” gun with extension and chrome socket you used make me cringe.
Yeah i know i need some
Hey Bro... I don't think it looks to bad at all... Just my opinion... Maybe get a different lowering spring set up....
Yeah might try that
It's not terrible but does look a little weird. Almost looks like you need an 18in rim or you'll have to get a more meaty tire. I can feel your frustrations. I'm sure you'll get it buttery tho
I run 295’s on the back on my 04 Roush with 1 inch spacers and it’s perfect.
Very nice!
@@DerekBaranProductions Love the termi man, hope you get that perfect wheel setup you like!
lol got same tires on my 98 ls1 maro but i lowered my car so the fitment is there
Oh nice
LOWER the car more! The tire setup is as it should be 315/35 is the same height as 275/40 just wider. It just needs to be lowered more go coilovers and slam it they don't make good drop springs for cobras. Those springs are not low enough that is why you have a big gap.
Might look into some coils!
My old 04 dsg car had that exact same setup. Personally I loved it.
Just cut the end of the axles flush for the center cap to fit. Doesn’t hurt anything , everyone does it with their cobra.
315/35 is supposed to go with 18s not 17s 🤷🏻♂️ that's why it's looking a little bit small, sad to say mate but you better with another tires size 🤷🏻♂️💯
315/35 is same height as 275/40 stock tires that is a proven combo on these cars it needs to be lowered more.
Think i need to lower it more
@@midnight347 I'm sorry I mixed up and made a mistake,
1. 315/35/17 is the correct size (315/30/18 is the one that I was referring to)
2. Nitto tires are always (and well known) for being 1 size smaller always , so if you get two 315/35 tires one nitto & one another brand ; there will be a difference in size! (That's I've been reading for years over SVTP)
3. Lowering it won't fix the problem, it will be looking like a Gasser (front end sitting higher) + visibility issues (at least with my Mach 1shaker hood scoop, i would say remove the springs iso's and see how to do you like it, but end of the day: you need another tires 🤷🏻♂️🥲
I used the narrow double sided tape to hold center caps
There you go
I’ve never been a fan of those wheels. Get the same style you have but with a bigger offset and ditch the deep dish replica
Think so?
@@DerekBaranProductions 18” reps would be 👌🏼
Drive it around the block and see if it lowers any. But it might just need a meaty rear tire, like 315/40 or 315/45
They don't make those sizes in 17. 315/35 is same height as 275/40 which is what they come with stock. If he wants the rear tire tire to be taller than the front he's gonna have to go lower profile on the front. Best thing to do is lower the damn thing and get ride of the gap that way. 315/35 and 275/40 is a proven 17 inch staggered combo for these cars. Same height on rear just wider. It is crazy how many people don't know that much about tire sizing and how it works. People see 35 they think that means less sidewall than 40.....that only works if they're the same width.
True!!!
@@midnight347 bruh I know how tire sizing works. The second number is a ratio (percentage) of the first number (the width) for the sidewall height
A 45 in height should easily do the trick and make it look beefy
True true
Looks good…
3 days lay tuh
Gotta get them HRE or CCW’s
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those wheels look fire i don’t know what your talkin abt
looking forward to racing videos with the terminator. Is bluficer still down ?
Random question, but what shift knob is this? Thanks!
I’m running 315/45r17’s on mine and it definitely filled the gap
See how it looks with the fronts you bought. Maybe it will match up better?
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I think it looks sweet bro, but on the other hand if you don't like it I will buy them and put them on mine lol.
Yeah i might sell them
Well I ya do bro hit me up I will take them.
Just a little taller tire on the back maybe. Looks good tho
Just bought 315/30/18 r888 yesterday 660$ for the 2 rears
Shesh
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Oh yeah!
Honestly it doesn't look bad. Like the tread on the tires. I would use them. Then put the others back on.
Yeah ima see what i can figure out
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Bro it looks nice af man got that muscle look love the set up it’s a hate or love thing but I love it !!!
Little more tire in the back and 👌. Honestly it looks pretty good with it like tht but i get it im just like u when it comes to wheel/tire gap. 🤘
Those new wheels for medusa are so shiny and nice 😁