What LOUDNESS Reveals About Great Singing & Screaming (Prepare To Be Surprised)
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Let’s do an experiment! Inspired by a genius suggestion in the comment section of a previous video, I’ve got my decibel meter set up in the room, and I’m going to show you what my natural loudness is while moving between my head and chest voice, screaming and varying my vocal compression.
Can you do a video on how to sing like Chris Liepe? That dude has killer vocals!
So kind :) Here!! th-cam.com/video/2VZuDOvu6IA/w-d-xo.html
(:) the problem with this guy is that he s singing, listening to his voice and then he says it's allright when actually it's bad as fvk... he's always sliding into notes, he can't hit a clean note to save his life, his tone is all over the place, his vibrato is utter shite, i mean come on dude... ofc he knows his theory and identifies techniques pretty well but he has to train before showing them off, or just stick to talking about them and quit moaning like a disemboweled goat
I've wondered about this since I was a kid. It's so great to see this covered so thoroughly.
Your videos have changed my life. I was always so uncomfortable with my voice, to the point that I wasn't willing to pay a vocal coach because I thought it was a lost cause. Now I love it. I can't stop singing, and I can't stop watching your videos. THANK YOU so much, very sincerely. To offer this for free is incredibly generous, and it's the only way I would ever have discovered my voice.
Wow, that’s so cool to hear, Chase! Thanks for sharing this with me. I’m honored to be a part of you discovering your voice! :) Here’s another video you might appreciate: th-cam.com/video/6vXUO5stcfw/w-d-xo.html
We love you Chris thanks for all these videos
The pressure he feels at lower frequencies are in the passagio area, that is why he says that at higher frequencies it's less effort.
when he says what he's doing its like an anime where they announce their attack before the do it haha
Bro. You just yoda'd this !
How to increase the power in my falsetto? Its always so soft and just doesnt sound like what i need
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This is hands down the most useful channel there is about singing. What a great coach, I can't thank you enough for putting this out here for free.
I know you take lots of requests, but if you have time and it interests you, i've always tried to figure out what technique Jens Kidman from Meshuggah uses. From the Obzen era onwards. Thanks again! Keep up the great work!
Wow, thank you! Great ideas/suggestions too!
Matteo Muscas seriously he’s the best
Chris Liepe You’ve completely transformed my singing dude
I Agree with Mateo , the best vocal coaching channel , by faaaar
I tried Ken Tamplin for instance he just fed us bullshit on YT , Chris did the exact opposite he made us discover thing ! I'm thankful great job Chris
Welcome to Chris Liepe channel where the PROOF!! is in the teaching.
HA!! So Kind!! :)
@@chrisliepe Arigatou sensei for the lessons.
I understood that reference🤣
Would love a "Sing like Serj Tankian"!
Depends on the year.
@@michalszerszen9638 a l l o f t h e m
@@Dimchek970 well... 1998 is unrefined. 2001/2002 is great. 2003 is my favourite. 2005-2010 is probably the best singing/techique wise. 2011 onwards, is... well lets just say its not quite there.
Nice, you got your wish :D
@@michalszerszen9638 In my opinion, he was best in the early years. I don't like his operatic style, I like him aggressive and unrestrained. Everything after 2005 is not as impactful for me.
When you were like, “isn’t that cool” I was like, “yes, that's actually really freeing” and you basically said those same words as I was think it. Amazing.
As a singer that actually benefits from nerding out like this, you are the perfect coach for me. Do you do Skype lessons???
www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/discover-your-voice/
:)
Hory shirt that was quick lol
I got 190.5 dB
I used to sing very loud, the wave would be ridiculously bigger than the spoken voice. But it didn't sound right. Recently I've started focusing on finding the right frequencies and a good color. And even when the level is slightly above the spoken tone, it sounds great and cuts the mix. Loudness sometimes doesn't fit with every single vocal and/or genre, focus on the outcome!
you should try singing shirtless so we can see how much your muscles contract👍👍👍
The voice that has always fascinated me is Devin Townsend. The man is so incredibly diverse and powerful. If you haven't looked into his stuff, I think there's a ton to learn there.
Wonder what you guys got. I'm male. Small chest (about 88cm)
I got:
Silent room: 20 db
Talk: 40-50
Fry: 50-58
High fry: 60
Chest voice: 74
Head voice: 78
Mixed voice: 80
Falsetto: 75
Belt: 80
(Very Lame) false chord "growl": 56
Can't sing with distortion without pain so haven't tried.
Sitting and measuring in a diesel Ford truck with engine on: 45 db
Talking 60 db
High frys 100 db
Mid-low false cord growls 95
Super loud yelling with vocal break technique and false cords - 110 db
There’s a db app I searched for and downloaded after watching this video called decibel X and it measures dB but also literally says “quiet conversation” or “loud singing” which has been really helpful as well! Sometimes when I’m listening to a studio recorded song it sounds like the singer is hitting it hard the entire time but most likely is just compression added in production. This is definitely helping save my voice during practice sessions!
That’s great it’s been helping save your voice! Glad to hear it. :)
Please teach us how to sing/scream like Ryan Kirby of Fit a For A King!
Definitely FFAK or Jake Luhrs from August Burns Red, both have tremendous ability.
I feel your voice would suit some of Pete Loeffler's stuff from Chevelle. Feel free to check them out if you don't know them, good band. But more great insight as usual👍
I can definitely see that.
@@gageclark2390 they definitely have similar range and tone
Yes please do a video on singing lile chevelle!
By far the weirdest iPhone commercial I've seen
It would be awesome to see a fresh new intro! I like the intro you do have, but I think change could bring some life back to it. 100% just my opinion! Keep rocking! :D
Been thinking the same thing :) That one is almost a year old now!!
Speaking about loudness, the kind of singing that mainstream pop pushes nowadays is the worst kind of singing, in my opinion. It sounds weak, flacid, phoned in and doesn't make any use of loudness or grit like it did back in the day. I dislike how dogmatic the music industry is about it, replacing variety with monotony: all of the performers they push sound the same. There's a place for quiet singing styles, too, but even it was more varied back in the day, because not everybody sounded like Norah Jones.
we DO love well supported head ;)
Are you measuring through your mic or the phone that's laying next to you? i ask because of the distance between you and the decibel meter.
If you want high notes and super cool distortion check out beast in black, yannis papadopoulos
I feel like I sing too quiet, almost like my belt isn't much louder than my talking voice
It would be so much better if everything was just in total dbs in the programs/gear
I was thinking about this decibel thing yesterday! I mean, the only way I can "properly" sing to train scream is with my head shoved into a pillow, or with it very close to my mouth, as to not annoy my neighbours (at least until I get the optimal larynx position for screaming)
I thought I was the only one doing the pillow technique XD XD LOL!...Now that I discovered true power in my voice I can't simply care less about people around XD If it's a normal time of the day I should be free to experiment with my voice...sorry for the neighbors...but a star needs to work to shine, lol....kidding, but it's really true that this discovery process is quite exciting XD
My dad constantly complains when i practice harsh vocals in the shower, is that loud?
Ehm im sorry but please do correct me:
Your DB for shout was ~80 - your allround singing (chest and head) was in the 85+ and your "high compression" was in the 80 and lil above.
How is that relaxed and not doing strain, when talking loud causing strain is in the 70?
Obviously we as the viewer didnt hear a differnce in the video due to audio compression/ limiter and what not (otherwise there would been a massive difference between the DB) but it just left me genuinly confused. That high voice with 90db compared to shout 80 must have been fricking loud?
This was indeed freeing. to see that I actually hit more volume was encouraging.
Now, I don't have any of the control and technique you possess but that's training. My fear of being too quiet is at least out of the equation which is...a lot.
That’s awesome!! Check out this video for more about good control, etc: th-cam.com/video/Oa3JK1-IaPE/w-d-xo.html
Congratulations Chris!!!)))) 100 thousand subscribers!!! Keep it up. You're an awesome teacher. Thank u for everything)))
Thx❤ very interesting and helpful❤
Me: Ok Google, call mum
Phone: Who u want to call?
Me: CALL MUM
Phone opens Google Maps: Here is mum close to you
Me: 12:17
Dude that killed me hahaha
Would be awesome if you did a video on Conor Mason of Nothing but Thieves. Amazing dynamic range.
You are by far the most helpful singing intructor online, IMO! This REALLY helps with gauging how things should and shouldn't feel! Thank you! \m/
This is a fantastic thing! I always wondered about how "loud" singers are actually being that the vocals live and on a recording are some compressed.
Greatest vocal coach out there. What's interesting to see is that throughout all his examples, the larynx remains relatively neutral and doesn't move a whole lot! Thank you so much Chris! ❤️
I noticed as I starting singing with a mic my body backed off a lot on intensity, which caused a freedom in my range. Less is more, I guess.
Yep. The worst thing you can do for your voice is sing in the car with the music turned up loud. By contrast, it is always easier to hit the notes and tone you want in your quiet bathroom, or with a mic.
One of my coolest recorded screams was just louder than a whisper, but it sounded awesome
This is so interesting... I've had to move to an apartment and have been thinking about and trying to understand this whole 'loudness' thing. And I found someone saying to practice in a mic (as if I'm performing, that's what I'm going to do anyhow). And kind of the same experience... and also I can hear more what my voice is doing and play with it more. Good to hear I'm not alone
I asked this a couple of weeks ago so not sure if was only one, thanks so much either way for doing the video I can now have some references to compare with! You’re great!
I do see that Mixed Voice was the loudest, but can't it be quiet with only using only just enough air and good support?
It can! The point to consider is that loudness is relative all the time. With the right techniques, you can do anything along a range of loudness and this furthers the ability to express in varied ways!
And there it is! Thank you for gettin The dB meter! This clarified my thoughts about doing some things too silent.
Why can't I do grit and distortion and compression over the larynx... it feels like it's inside the larynx. :(
Practice clearing your throat high in the throat vs. low in the throat... Can you feel a difference? If you can, you're on the right track!
Hi, Chris! I would love to see same dB/loudness tests on lower notes of extreme vocalists. When I listen to something like Dethklolk or Cannibal Corpse I wonder how loud is actual voice of a particular singer at particular songs. Would I be able to hear it at all, if the person singing like guttural or growling style didn't use a microphone and compression on it? Can this style of extreme singing exist without microphones? Sth. like acoustic death metal vegan edition? xD
Thanks for the suggestion!
Look up the dude from Slaughter the Wicked who certainly gets monster volume out even without mic.
My Apple Watch says very often "Hey dude, 96db is loud. Protect your ears" 🤔 im not sure... should i protect my ears from loudness or the singing 😅
haha... both! :)
That's pure head
Sing Like Lewis Capldi!!
Awesome Video!
I like this video because is not only explanation but also demonstration. Very good.
Could you possibly do a "How to sing like" Chris Motionless? Mainly with the higher, distorted notes he hits like in the Chorus of Soft, when he sings "My Disguise! In Disguise, and so on. Definitely would be a good one, I think.
I once hit 123 or 125 dB on a meter quite a while ago when I used to do Dani Filth high screams.
That’s awesomely loud!!
@@chrisliepe The "Max" mode on the meter that remembers the highest peaks helped as well, I believe.
You should have hearing protection above 75db or so…thoughts on that?
Above 80 for extended periods should use protection I think. What they taught me in school too :)
Yay! I was getting worried because when I first started learning to scream, it wouldn't feel like it was too much louder than just doing mix, glad to know I'm on the right track
Just gotta keep practicing now
Hey Chris, could we get more videos about writing and recording your own music? There's a lot of things about writing and recording that I don't know and as someone who has a goal of becoming a home recording musician your insight would be incredibly valuable.
I'd LOVE to do more of those videos! have you checked out my free recording course yet? You can find a link in the video info :)
@@chrisliepe No I haven't, thanks for telling me. One thing I'm curious about though is how to write drum parts. I can't play drums myself and don't know anything about arranging drums. A video about that would be helpful.
@@CommanderClyde yes, i can never seem to arrange a drum part that sounds right. it always sounds jumbled up and unorganised.
Man, you've got that Chris Cornell distortion on those high notes. I'm so jealous. I wish I knew how to do distortion.
Ok mine are:
Sitting and measuring in a diesel Ford truck with engine on: 45 db
Talking 60 db
High frys 100 db
Mid-low false cord growls 95
Super loud yelling with vocal break technique and false cords: 110 db
@@@@CHRIS LIEPE@@@@ First off THANK YOU for these videos! I am STRUGGLING with trying to get the right sound. My Goal is to be able to Sing AC/DC songs. Halestorm is somerone I have been trying to mimic. Right now I sound squeaky and dont know why? Any chance you can post a video breaking Halestorms vocals down?
Please and Thank you!!!!!
Awesome video! Really love your grit. I know you already did a couple videos on that topic, but it would be super cool if you could go even more in depth on the sensation and the placement of the grit in an upcoming video. Keep it up! :>
Right on!! :) Thanks for the feedback.
You have no idea how much this helped. I immediately subscribed after seeing this.
Thanks so much for the sub Andrew!
I have a lot of problems with volume only while SCREAMING, because of the way you need to hold air back, it just kills my volume.
This was a great idea for a video. I think I have a bad habit of trying to make my screams as loud as possible, and my voice starts to suffer after doing it for prolonged periods of time as a result. This is yet another good example of prioritizing technique over volume.
Zero dislikes for the best vocal coach on TH-cam.
I need to figure out the "add compression above the larynx instead of below" thing. That part is confusing to me.
This free course will help you out a lot!: www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/7-highly-effective-vocal-exercises
@@chrisliepe Already enrolled, D00D! Thanks for making stuff like this available. I gotta say, the way you play around with your voice and make sounds that appear to be ridiculous has really helped me figure out a couple of things. Being able to play and not always try to sound perfect makes things a lot more free. It's a lot of fun. :)
I would love a video on Jay Buchanan the lead singer of rival sons he is pretty loud and soulful
What I'm getting from your videos is that in the voice we have these knobs, in the same way a keyboard has
.Volume (Support muscles,poop muscles)
.Pitch (Vocal cords)
.Tone (Soft palate/tongue/larynx)
.Compression. ( false vocal cords??)
Please, feel free the comunity to add anyone or correct
Chris, gratitude to you.
Chris,
Thank you for all of the tutorials you have given so far. I was wondering if you could do a David Lee Roth / Steven Tyler type of screaming for effect tutorial?
My vocals are only about 85-90 at my absolute loudest, I’m 14 and I’m wondering if I need to sing louder or not?
You are the best youtube teacher out there. And I follow A LOT of channels. I hope your channel gets huge. Thank you for sharing all of this!
I was watching your vid on Cobain's scream. Reminds me of Lizzy Paplinger's ability to push her voice, particularly in LPX's "Tremble." Ooof, great.
Your voice reminds me of Trevor McNevan from 1000 foot krutch. Please make a video of his vocal technique. Ty
Thanks for doing this, I can't check my singing yet but my speaking in a 30db room seems to be around 70-80, so I guess there's some validity to people who get mad at me for talking too loud lol
Haha!!
Another hugely helpful video, thank you!
I've been wanting to sing and work on my voice for a long time and your videos are really helping me to begin to do that and show that sounds and pitches I could only dream of using are not entirely unachievable for me. I've just signed up for your free course and am looking forward to working through it. Thanks again!
loud scream at a comfortable note, c weight scale 115.8, phone in my hand held out no more than 18'' away. probably not very accurate im guessing , decibel x pro app
hey could you do one of your vocal technique dissection videos on Blackie Lawless of WASP? i'd love to hear some insight on how he achieved that savage howl from the early albums. it's a sound I've chased for a long time, and this video kind of got me thinking about it. I can mimic the voice pretty well at lower volumes but adding any kind of projection sort of ruins it. should I maybe not and just like the mic do the work?
When I add compression I feel a little pain in my vocal chord (well, don't know if it's pain but it's uncomfortable). It sounds great and I'm sure it is not the cooky monster, what could be?
Literally anything
Interesting and helpful. Never thought to test this and I even already had that spl app as I use it to check monitor levels for mixing.
Results…im loud lol, but I knew that. FoH has mentioned that to me before. But the helpful part is that my head voice isn’t super far off from my chest 100 v 110 ish.
That’s really helpful. I had long avoided any head voice as thought my timbre was just awful. Turns out when I actually recorded it at my sister’s urging for some songs, I apparently only have that phenomenon where I hear myself differently for my head resonances. I sound recorded, speaking, chest voice, exactly like I think I sound.
But man I would’ve thought the volume was way off too. Another reason I’ve be subconsciously avoiding using it more.
wow like i never thought id come across some1 that takes singing coaching seriously...
I meant quieter than you demonstrated. Basically the volume of a standard chest voice volume.
This was great! Really helps to see things from another perspective.
Insanely beneficial!
I sing very loud
in order for decibel readings to be meaningful, you need to measure the distance between your mouth and the recording device. 3 feet or a meter are common standard distances. The difference in dB between different techniques is still meaningful so long as the distance and angle are consistent, which appears to be the case in your video.
Very cool! That's a great lesson, that mix doesn't need so much air and "effort" to be loud and cutting.
How to sing like Daniel Heiman. Good luck to us.
i gotta say dude, i keep coming back and getting inspired from every video you put out. love it dude, though im sure i get some weird looks when im in traffic xD
Definitely do the free course! I noticed enough improvement that I decided to join the 12 week program. I've been singing since I learned to speak and this is the best my voice has ever sounded
Amazing video as always! Can you teach us how to maintain the volume of your mic in the same level all the time?
Btw, seeing your channel growing up is fantastic! Greetings from Brazil ^^
i can only reach about 80 db when i sing on chest and head voice, is that too quiet?
This is even more thorough than I thought it'd be! Thanks for answering my question, Chris. It's a real eye opener.
You bet!
You're the best teacher out there my man. Great vídeo as always!
Thanks!!! Spread the word!! :)
How do you set GAIN for singing? Cuz obviously they say to make it go MAX ( when singing loudest note 10db and when normal singing 18db.... is that exactly right or no?
how is that possible because you can’t exactly sing always making it stay in between them sooo......
Should I sing loudest note and set it by that
OR
sing my normal loudness and set it by that
Sing your loudest and then set the gain. But there is a lot more on signal chain to take into consideration. Join my free recording course at MyMusicalVoice.com
What mic is good for loud singers
Shure Sm7b
Someone else hear nessun dorma arpung 5:45??
I once saw a video where a guy made guitar sounds with his voice and it’d be cool if you went into how specific instruments sound and how to achieve that sound too.
@chris liepe : at 13:33 you sound a lot like Zoli from the band IGNITE :
th-cam.com/video/XwuJMdr_KOU/w-d-xo.html
I think you both have a similar range and tone.
Can you do a how to sing like Karen Clark sheard video preferably when she sang - I owe you praise live?
Thank you so much! This was wonderful. God bless you brother! ❤🙏
Hey man, as usual, great content! I have to keep this in mind. Could there be a video about mastering a vocal track? I am trying to learn mixing and mastering and I won't find a better coach than you on TH-cam
So many people say that you should stay the same volume all the way through the range. I'm so glad that I refused to except that...because it's just not true. Staying quite means going to headvoice early and I don't always want to got to headvoice early...sometimes I want to sing around C5 in a chesty mix...and that is not going to happen at a speaking volume. Yet another great lesson, thanks again Chris
RIGHT! ya I've always said that you should be able to sing any note at any volume... That's VERY different than staying the same volume throughout. Although I can see how that could be construed as limiting, when it is actually freeing. Don't force yourself to stay at the same volume. Realize that you can be at any volume you want on any note because you want to express something in a certain way!! FREEDOM
Really exciting, thank you! :)))