It was great to see them release Avatar 2 on blu ray 3D long after most big distributors stopped offering the immersive 3D format. An incredible 3D film that exceeds the 3D of the first and that 3D fans can thankfully enjoy at home. Please release Avatar 3 on blu ray 3D as well! The 3D fans will return to support it.
@@inigogc if you have ps4 , you can see Blu-ray 3D disc with the psVR . I Don't know how it will look , but i read have a good quality if you don't have or Don't want to buy a 3D projector . I think the psvr are very cheaper than a projector
@@inigogc for 90 or 100 $ ( in my case , € ) you have the psvr , but thats depend of the place where do you buy it . I think pay that is better than pay 1000 for a projector 😄
Being someone who does all their 3D viewing on projectors since 3D bluray came out, I'm definitely in for the 3D disc as well. The quality of 3D these days with the JVC laser series, like my NZ9, is just phenomenal, especially with a 150" image. You can't achieve that kind of immersion on a flat panel TV. Just annoying the format has dwindled down to barely anything just as the consumer display tech has gotten this good.
Amen to that... 4K 2D OLED cannot match my 65in 3D plasma with a well formatted 3D movie so can only give thanks for people like James Cameron keeping 3D technology moving forward..
@@JohnFHendry Glad it's working well for you. I've never been able to get enough immersion when viewing 3D on a TV panel. But with projection it's whole different ball game :)
Yes I can see that. I started on a 50in to 55in to 65in plasma 3D TVs and noticed the bigger the screen the better the 3D effect. It's great 3D can be played on a projector as it keeps the tech moving forward. Be nice if new over 83in OLEDs bring 3D back. @@chairmannow2297
In 2023, I'm still using the 2 3DTVs from a decade ago. The main one is a 65" Samsung Plasma from 2011, the other, my own personal TV, a 2012 Panasonic passive TV. I love that they still work flawlessly after all these years :)
Absolutely awesome that you are still reviewing the (sadly very few) 3d blu-ray releases we're still getting Shane thank you😊. And tremendous to hear it's spread across 2 discs brilliant 🎉! Can't wait to receive my Pre-ordered copy soon. I'll be watching it on my thankfully 🙏 still working LG 3d OLED - may she keep living for many years yet I pray 🙏. And that at least one tv manufacturer might see the light and start producing a 3d TV again 🙏!
If only passive 3D the way it’s presented on OLED was the standard from the beginning, I think we would have gotten several more years worth of 3D content for the home. #3DOLEDGANG
Ive got an 8 year old Optoma 141x projector and two pairs of cheap 3d glasses. This is the way to watch Avatar 2 in 3d, much better than what a tv can do. So its the way to go if you have to ungrade your old tv to watch 3d movies.
@@mrjeff6257 You dont need an old projector, many new 4k projectors still feature 3D support. Recently upgraded my jvc x500 to an np5, and man, the 3D on this is amazeballs :D
Nice one Shane. 100% 3D Blu-ray all the way for me on this one; zero interest in ever watching this one flat, however 4K crispy the 4K disc might be... Good point about those flat wide shots: James Cameron's not a fan of hyperstereo so, for good or bad, has always avoided "unrealistic" three dimensional landscape shots. PS To *really* try to replicate the film's cinematic HFR look, you'd have to turn your motion interpolation on & off every few seconds..!
Yeah, I can understand why Cameron keeps making the wide shots flat. But if it were left up to me, I'd probably say "Why not make the wide shots hyperstereo? It's a 3D movie isn't it? Why not use the 3D to its full advantage?" Thankfully though, those shots weren't too often and were heavily outweighed by the great shots. About the HFR, it's a little disappointing that didn't come with the 3D Blu-ray release. But honestly, I'd say it's a miracle we go the film on 3D Blu-ray at all.
I'm so glad they split the 3d discs. I'm using an Optoma UHD51a projector and 7.1.4 set up in my home theatre. I use that more for watching 3d than my slim samsung plasma tv as that has a lot of ghosting.
Avatar the way of water is my favorite movie ever. The original made me want to make movies for a living, and I saw the new film 3 times thanks to AMC a list. I use a Sony KDL55HX800 Active 3DTV from 2010 for 3D viewing. I already got my 3D Blu-ray pre-ordered, and I can't wait.
Great review! Already preordered from Amazon. Currently I still able to watch 3D Blu-ray with a 2011 Panasonic 58" Plasma 3D TV (which come with original AVATAR 3D Blu-ray), and a Epson Pro Cinema 4050 4K Projector on 100" screen.
I only saw it in 3D at the cinema, thanks for the review . I needed this review as was wondering if it was spread across 2 discs and if worth it. Thanks to your review I am ordering both 3D version and 4K. Just wish the would do a 4K and 3D pack save buying the 2 versions. I be watching it on my Sony 3D projector 👌👌
Thank you for still reviewing optical media ! And reviewing the overall quality of the latest releases! The 3D Blu-ray of Avatar 2 is superb ! and thanks for suggesting the high frame rate ! I am watching on a Sony PS3 Super Slim with Sony Active shutter 3D on my beloved oldie but still substantially superior goodie; the Sony Bravia XBR65Z9D! After watching Avatar2 3D Blu-ray I watched Resident Evil After life 3D ( it was also filmed on Avatars Sony Fusion 3D Cameras). And I was so blown away by the gorgeous detail and depth of the Image and especially the lighting such as flash lights! I don’t care how many nitts an Oled or QLED can push ,when seeing the flashlights for the first time in 3D this is a whole nother level of realism and depth .Same can be said about Avatar with its water and glowing night and heavy daylight scenes . This depth leaves you with an actual 3rd dimensional memory imprint of the movie .which is an imprinted feeling of had been there in real life compared to any 2D 4K TV that is forgettable. I hope Apple helps 3D return with its pro vision. Also what you see on the Avatar 2 ,4K transfer is up scaled as a true native 4K rendered CGI film is decades away because raw processing power to run real-time proxy previews is non existent . Keep doing what your doing and don’t forget to have fun.
Will likely pick up the 3D version to enjoy on my 75Z9D. 👍 I think a reason you’re not seeing a big resolution difference between this and the 4K UHD disc is because your Panasonic does an amazing job upscaling. I recently watched Avatar 1 3D on my UB820 and it looked like a 4K disc no joke. I was mesmerized by how good it looked.
Each of your eyes are seeing a completly seperate 1080p image (with shutter glasses anyway). 3D always looked razer sharp to me on my projector vs a 1080p 2D as your brain is seeing 2 slightly different views of the world (seeing different details) and joining it all up in your head to produce what is effectively a high detail/resolution image than 1080p 2D, if that makes sense.
Should be getting the 3D Discs in the mail tomorrow. Super excited. I use the Sony ubp-x800m2 as my 3D Blu-ray player and my 65 inch LG Oled C6 as my 3D TV.
Great review. Definitely 3D for me. Glad you mentioned Pacific Rim. I LOVED that movie in 3D. With how amazing that movie was in addition to the first Avatar movie who would have thought the state of 3D at home would be what it is today. With that said I can't wait to watch this movie in 3D. So glad they released it on 2 discs rather than 1. I actually had my TV convert it in 3D when I bought the digital release so I can't wait to see how much better the 3D disc will be. I am still hoping for a 3D Blu-ray of The Abyss. I really hope that happens. My 3D Blu-ray player is my PS3 and my 3D display is an LG HD 3D TV.
@@PrinceVegeta9891 Cameron is notoriously slow with producing his films in the latest technology. It took years for him to release Titanic on Blu-ray. Blu-ray, y'all.
@@kevinstrother8712 But when he did it was amazing in 3D along with the 3D release of T2. I know right now the Avatar films are taking all his time but a Blu-ray 3D of The Abyss Extended Edition would be an instant buy.
Running a Sony XBR-75X940C in 2023 for both my 3D and 4K selection. I appreciate you keeping it alive. I hope they bring back home 3D in the future with higher resolution.
I’ll be picking up the 3D version. I have a 3D tv, but will be replacing it soon. Sadly they don’t have the tech in newer TV. Eventually I’ll have to get a projector to have 3D
Am just picking up the 3d version and skip the 4k. I use a projector to watch 3d on but I still have few Panasonic plasma's hanging around also I can watch on.
I discovered I can watch 3D movies with Oculus Quest 2. I never really watched any from beginning to end yet. My first experience was really bad and ditched the idea, but I later realized it was because of low quality half side by side conversion (probably meant for 3d tv's) . I'm now converting Avatar 1 myself, testing different quality setting but I'm already quite impressed with some 10 minutes of watching.
Still rocking my Panasonic 50EX750 3D TV!!! 😁 Gonna be upgrading soon though - and the other half does NOT want a projector of ANY kind, so will miss my entire 3D collection (which is quite sizeable now) until I can convince her otherwise. Sadly, that might not be for a few years yet (think like, another 10, rather than another 2 years!) 😔
Spot on review and mega props for shouting out Pacific Rim. I so agree... It is my go to 3D demo movie. There are movies that may have a singularly impressive scene or pop out but from beginning to end there is just something about Pac Rim that makes it stand head and shoukders above.
Sounds like another must buy title, thanks for the review! Yep Still cranking 3D in 2023 here, Epson tw7100 (hc3800) with mostly Samsung Bluetooth glasses, via a Panny UB820 at 120" still a great experience.
Thanks for the review Shane. Covered everything the average 3d nut wants to know. 😉. I'm running an sony hw55es and epson hc3500. Elite tab tension 1.3 gain 120" isf certified. Yamaha aventage rx a3070 in 7.2.4. A mix of xpand glasses and bluetooth. A bit of projector / screen positioning adjustment in the last week has resulted in no ghosting using bluetooth which i'm pretty gobsmaked about tbh after being a bit dissatisfied with it for 2 years. There always seem to be something to learn for this hobby..
Hi Shane, great review - I have the 3d discs coming soon on pre-order. I am running projector based systems, using Sony 40 ES and 45 ES (SXRD) Projectors and Denon 6300H and 6700 H amplifiers. I use a REL TX9 sub and B & W speakers using HTM 71’s for the L,R and C channels which have enough bass response to do without the REL’s except for music listening and all the other speakers are B & W switchable direction speakers. The screen is a Grand View aluminium framed fixed screen. Best demo disc perhaps ‘Journey to the Centre of the Earth’?
Shane, thanks for your sacrifice (13 viewings! Whew!) and review. Having seen this in the theater in 3D, I didn’t hesitate to pre-order the 3D set. Your honest review reassures me I made the right call
I saw this in 3D twice in cinemas, I felt it was great in the beginning, but not so much at the end, and I wondered if maybe my eyes were adjusting and ignoring the 3D depth as anything special at the tail end of 3 hours, or if the effect wasn't consistent throughout (or maybe a bit of both). I am picking up the 3D version, but Sweden is not getting its own 3D release so I'll have to import it. Haven't seen Pacific Rim in 3D, wasn't the biggest fan of that movie when I first saw it. For me personally my reference for great 3D is Thor Ragnarok, I will always watch that one in 3D for as long as I have 3D equipment.
I preordered the 3D from DMC. I have an Optoma HD143X (DLP) projector and 84” screen with a 5.1.2 Atmos setup. I also have nearly 200 3D Blu-ray titles, and growing.
This is the way. What do you do for sound though? I don't know of an app that plays atmos tracks and even if it could how does vr headset output to a receiver.
@@xXSinForLifeXx Is this a steamvr setup? Ive only ever done stand alone or mobile. But it sounds like that's the way to get vr watching with atmos sound.
Founds a Sony 3d player at the thrift store for $10 and then snagged an old lg 3d tv on Facebook market place and talked him down to $90. It’s been a lot of fun watching 3d movies. May take a little time do recreate my setup for cheap, but not difficult or impossible.
i'm a 3D fan also, and appreciated your review and information. You mentioned in your review about the LG oled 3dTV which is a passive 3D TV like in the theaters. You also did a review of the Sony XW6000es Projector using an expand 3d kit and RF glasses. My question to you is: Can the Sony projector do Passive 3D as well. The projector specs say "full 3D support" does that mean it can produce the 3D image; with passive glasses used like the Theaters and my passive LG OLED 3DTV. RF glasses gives me and the family headaches. My Sony 46" 3DTV with RF glasses are headed to the dumpster. ps. I bought the Avatar 3D movies.
Really enjoyed the review. I received my disc Friday from Best Buy, I'm watching 3d movies on my 65in LG E6. I think I would be hard pressed to find a better 3d display. Thoughts? Thanks again for reviewing the physical media!
8x in the theatre thank you AMC Alist. I am anxiously awaiting my 3D bluray to watch again on my 2015 LG. I always loved the floating ash after the Jake wakes up amidst the smoldering Home Tree in the original.
Great review, what hardware is everybody running? I have 2 Sony 55x9005b tv's, a Sony playstation 3d monitor, a Sony KDL 43w805c and a Royole Moon headset. For 3d players I use PS3 (mostly) and my PS4. At the moment I do not have a 4K player, but I'm looking to buy a Sony x800m2 player. And maybe a 3D projector in the near future.
Did they make an update for the Sony’s that disabled 3D on Active models? Heard something about that so I have been on the fence about getting a Z9D (plus the other glasses synching issues some people have been complaining about)
Can't wait! Delivery arrives soon. Ill be watching on my LG OLED C6P. But im also selling the LG OLED (Curved screen) to buy a projector. (just need ro save some more money lol) Anyone wanna buy the LG from me?? Lol.
We need to convince Kaleidescape to carry 3D movies. It takes you out of the movie switching disk. They would also have a lot of movies that aren't available in the US
@@therealshaneleehat they need to have are downloadable native HDR12 files for the high cost of their ecosystem. Studios lend them 12 bit HDR ProRes mezzanine files, so they could encode their files as 12 bit 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 rather than 10 bit 4:2:0. Then there would be little need for Dolby Vision support, which they lack anyway.
Hi Shane, Great video, I am new to home theatre but building a house with a dedicated room, I game a lot and love 3D movies, I will go through your videos for references but was wondering if you had suggestions for someone with around a 25k budget (whole room) I would love a 9.2.4 setup with Atmos and was thinking of Klipsch or KEF for the speakers, and the Sony VPL-VW295ES as a native 4k that's still supports 3D. Would love some suggestions or alternatives if you have any!
I’m getting the Scandinavian 4K of each movie. Plus the German 3D steelbook of way of water. I still got my old 3D version on blu-ray of the first movie. I’m watching 3D on my old Philips tv. With the glasses from the cinema.
Watched today on my Valve Index in Bigscreen. Nothing like watching a 3d movie in VR while looking at a 100 foot screen. Even though the screens you are actually looking at are smaller than your average smartphone.
I just watched the video on your review. Fasten your seatbelts, Shane Lee! I still have, in terrific condition...just haven't used it in a moment, a fully operational Sony Play station 3 3D-display I have watched my 3d movies on including the original Avatar a few years back. One of the best 3d presentations was Marvel's "The Avengers" (2012), with the play station 3d glasses that came with the tv the battle in New York jumped off the screen including that one long shot following each Avenger during the battle.
I don’t have a 3D tv, but if it’s a worthwhile upgrade, I may consider it, for my next tv, in about 2-4-6 more years… but then it will depend on how the quality differs between the blue ray and the 4K blue ray, as well with the hdr, and Atmos…
Shane, great review as always. I have the JVC NZ8 with the 3D emitter and glasses. I will definitely be buying this version of the disc. The first "Avatar" movie was just okay in my opinion, that's why I haven't seen this one yet. Sorry that you have had to watch this movie 13 times! 😂
I started this on my Samsung JS8500, and it looks incredible in 3D. After watching the 4K disc first, I have to say 3D is the best way to watch this movie.
Great review. I can't wait to finally watch this flick on 3D Blu-ray. I reviewed this film in 3D at the theater when it first came out and it was hands down the greatest 3D experience I've ever had, in theater or at home. The first Avatar also had reference quality 3D. But in my opinion, I think there are a few films, including this one, that just edge out over it. This one in particular just had more to work with in terms of 3D because of all the water scenes. That's just my thought though. Still, while I am curious to see for myself how the 4K version works out, I know 3D will still be the definitive way to see it. It's definitely a real shame that 3D Blu-ray nowadays is kinda on life support. It's up to people like us to keep it alive. Personally, I'm still holding out hope that Puss in Boots 2 and Jaws (1975) will make their way onto 3D Blu-ray someday.
Awesome video, Shane! 3D is the ONLY way to watch this movie at home. I will buy several versions of the 3D (steelbook, standard, etc) - and NONE of the 2D versions. I use a JVC NZ8 to watch 3D. WE NEED JAWS 3D Blu-ray NOW after avtar 2 has been released!
Watching it on the BenQ 7050i ultra short throw projector. As always, thanks for the review. I didn't think they were going to release it on 3D at first.
Hung on to my 3D TV for too long but I had to go 4K and there are very few 3D 4K TV options out there. Thankfully the Quest 2 plays 3D movies excellently
Can’t wait for my copy to arrive as I missed it in the theater. I’ll be watching on my good old plasma: Samsung pn60f8500afx Shane I’m trying to understand your 3d strength rating now: if Avatar is a 10 but pacific rim is stronger, yet there are movies with even stronger 3d such as comin’ at ya, journey to the center of the earth, a turtles tale: Sammie’s adventures, thunder and the house of magic, Thor Ragnarok, dr. Strange, ghost in the shell - do these movie with stronger 3d now occupy a space above a 10?
i have a 3D RCA TV but unfortunately the sound does not work on the tv any more...i did get external speakers BUT they won't work for the 3D that has to played on PS3. the speaker are connected to the tv but only work when im using my computer and the TV. If anyone knows a work around please let me know. Thx :)
Anyone watching 3d movies on VR headsets? and is it any good? I have a 4K setup but want to buy the 3D version for now, thinking of buying the Oculus 3 when released for 3D movies.
Please make sure that you see a 3D movie (particularly this one) on a Virtual Reality screen at some point in your life (recommend Skybox VR for playback). It's a game changer. And headsets will only get more comfortable and higher resolution. And before you totally crap on my comment if you hate VR, remember, 3D is booming there and it just may keep the 3D home viewing industry on life support and into recovery.
Can anyone give me information on how to obtain a VR-compatible version of Avatar 2? Seeing Avatar 2 3D in theaters was very cool, but not ideal. (the glasses setup was kind of janky, there was glare, etc.) I was browsing TH-cam one day and discovered a 4k 3D trailer of Avatar 2 on TH-cam that utilized stereoscopic 3d, and it was incredible. If anyone has a VR headset to view these trailers on I highly urge you to try it. I imagine the full movie in this format would be some of the most immersive content out there.
I think it's likely that the next TV iteration after 8K will be 8K/4K 3D with HDR. That would be a way that TV manufacturers could bring me to buy a new TV after owning a 4K HDR OLED already.
Sounds like 3D is the winner for me. A DTS 5.1 or 7.1 should never have better bass than an Atmos mix. Doesn’t sound like I have much reason to double dip, so 3D it is!
The best way to watch this movie is. In a middle ground between 4k and 3D. What you do is put the 4k version on and then select the 2D to 3D option on your 3D tv. The resolution will stay at 4K but with a slight pop
So SiCK of turning my volume up to MAX jus to watch a movie. I really hope when Abyss & True Lies finally comes out. We won't hav to Break the volume knob jus to hear it. And hav to make our own Bass sound & feel. Jus to make a Impact.. Smh, Disney SUCK!!! Good Review!!🤩
3D TV surpasses 2D TV, but like Polyphonic Aftertouch with release velocity on electronic synth keyboards used to create movie soundtracks, 3D TV was dropped because of majority consumer choice allowing it. There is a reason 1990's low resolution DVD's at Walmart still outsell Bluray and 4K disks to be used on high definition 4K TV's in 2023, which is somewhat like buying a 1.4 meg floppy disk sold during the same DVD format time period for use with a new 2024 laptop computer. But consumers don't like being taken advantage of and learn as technology grows and many people now want 3D TV brought back just like Polyphonic Aftertouch which is now a much desired "new" feature being implemented again better than before thanks to ASM and KORG as well as a few other companies like Waldorf and Yamaha putting Poly AT back in use. So 3D TV will be brought back too IMO with immense improvements but not until consumers stop buying DVDs when replacing their worn out 4K TV for another 4K or 8K TV. Selling DVD keeps Blu-ray prices up, and having both outdated formats still available keeps 4K disk prices up even higher. One issue 3D TV encountered adding misinformation was the discovery some people have poor 3D eyesight in need of correction due to one weak eye causing eyestrain and even headaches for a small minority of people resulting in enough bad reviews to make 3D seem like a gimmick to people who never tried it and a problematic format due to the small minority of people with poor 3D eyesight making a lot of noise about it. In reality watching 3D TV can correct a weak eye like an eye patch put on the stronger eye to balance out both eyes restoring normal balanced 3D vision. If you use a telescope a lot you will find the eye in use becomes the strong eye and when you switch eyes you don't process what you see as well showing the brain has something to do with it as well so can't wait to see what 3D TV becomes in time.
Just connected my Blu-ray player to Vudu. Anyone know if they have frame packed 3D? The one movie I tested (a free with ads one) played in side by side format.
It was great to see them release Avatar 2 on blu ray 3D long after most big distributors stopped offering the immersive 3D format. An incredible 3D film that exceeds the 3D of the first and that 3D fans can thankfully enjoy at home. Please release Avatar 3 on blu ray 3D as well! The 3D fans will return to support it.
Perhaps for you. I still need to buy a 3D projector. It’s expensive. Hehhe😂
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Viewsonic sells a 3D projector in the $400 range. But yes, I see most sell for $600 to $1000+.
@@inigogc if you have ps4 , you can see Blu-ray 3D disc with the psVR . I Don't know how it will look , but i read have a good quality if you don't have or Don't want to buy a 3D projector . I think the psvr are very cheaper than a projector
@@masterkey_d cool. Thanks. I didn’t know. Still pretty expensive though
@@inigogc for 90 or 100 $ ( in my case , € ) you have the psvr , but thats depend of the place where do you buy it . I think pay that is better than pay 1000 for a projector 😄
Ordered the 3D version, as I want it before it goes out of stock. I will pick up the 4K version later.
Being someone who does all their 3D viewing on projectors since 3D bluray came out, I'm definitely in for the 3D disc as well. The quality of 3D these days with the JVC laser series, like my NZ9, is just phenomenal, especially with a 150" image. You can't achieve that kind of immersion on a flat panel TV. Just annoying the format has dwindled down to barely anything just as the consumer display tech has gotten this good.
Can report the disc definitely does not disappoint. The 3D is a perfect replication of the what was seen in cinemas.
Amen to that... 4K 2D OLED cannot match my 65in 3D plasma with a well formatted 3D movie so can only give thanks for people like James Cameron keeping 3D technology moving forward..
@@JohnFHendry Glad it's working well for you. I've never been able to get enough immersion when viewing 3D on a TV panel. But with projection it's whole different ball game :)
Yes I can see that. I started on a 50in to 55in to 65in plasma 3D TVs and noticed the bigger the screen the better the 3D effect. It's great 3D can be played on a projector as it keeps the tech moving forward. Be nice if new over 83in OLEDs bring 3D back. @@chairmannow2297
In 2023, I'm still using the 2 3DTVs from a decade ago. The main one is a 65" Samsung Plasma from 2011, the other, my own personal TV, a 2012 Panasonic passive TV. I love that they still work flawlessly after all these years :)
For watching 3d content I use an Optoma P2 with a 120" screen and I use a Panasonic P65ST30 plasma tv.
Wishing we could get new 3D Oled and 4K 3D support... Maybe in a another life :/
Absolutely awesome that you are still reviewing the (sadly very few) 3d blu-ray releases we're still getting Shane thank you😊. And tremendous to hear it's spread across 2 discs brilliant 🎉! Can't wait to receive my Pre-ordered copy soon. I'll be watching it on my thankfully 🙏 still working LG 3d OLED - may she keep living for many years yet I pray 🙏. And that at least one tv manufacturer might see the light and start producing a 3d TV again 🙏!
If only passive 3D the way it’s presented on OLED was the standard from the beginning, I think we would have gotten several more years worth of 3D content for the home. #3DOLEDGANG
Japan is still releasing Marvels in 3D, and i recently picked up the australian Dominion and Spider man no way home (the spidermans are still sony).
Ive got an 8 year old Optoma 141x projector and two pairs of cheap 3d glasses. This is the way to watch Avatar 2 in 3d, much better than what a tv can do. So its the way to go if you have to ungrade your old tv to watch 3d movies.
@@mrjeff6257 You dont need an old projector, many new 4k projectors still feature 3D support. Recently upgraded my jvc x500 to an np5, and man, the 3D on this is amazeballs :D
3d plasma tv better than oled
Nice one Shane. 100% 3D Blu-ray all the way for me on this one; zero interest in ever watching this one flat, however 4K crispy the 4K disc might be... Good point about those flat wide shots: James Cameron's not a fan of hyperstereo so, for good or bad, has always avoided "unrealistic" three dimensional landscape shots. PS To *really* try to replicate the film's cinematic HFR look, you'd have to turn your motion interpolation on & off every few seconds..!
Nice mini review!
@@garyharper2943 Heh heh!
Yeah, I can understand why Cameron keeps making the wide shots flat. But if it were left up to me, I'd probably say "Why not make the wide shots hyperstereo? It's a 3D movie isn't it? Why not use the 3D to its full advantage?" Thankfully though, those shots weren't too often and were heavily outweighed by the great shots. About the HFR, it's a little disappointing that didn't come with the 3D Blu-ray release. But honestly, I'd say it's a miracle we go the film on 3D Blu-ray at all.
3D instead of 4K for me
Great job Shane. I personally love 3D. My friends not so much. I have the first 3D movie and will get it with a 3D version.
I'm so glad they split the 3d discs. I'm using an Optoma UHD51a projector and 7.1.4 set up in my home theatre. I use that more for watching 3d than my slim samsung plasma tv as that has a lot of ghosting.
Avatar the way of water is my favorite movie ever. The original made me want to make movies for a living, and I saw the new film 3 times thanks to AMC a list. I use a Sony KDL55HX800 Active 3DTV from 2010 for 3D viewing. I already got my 3D Blu-ray pre-ordered, and I can't wait.
Great to see a good 3D title again!
Great review! Already preordered from Amazon. Currently I still able to watch 3D Blu-ray with a 2011 Panasonic 58" Plasma 3D TV (which come with original AVATAR 3D Blu-ray), and a Epson Pro Cinema 4050 4K Projector on 100" screen.
I only saw it in 3D at the cinema, thanks for the review . I needed this review as was wondering if it was spread across 2 discs and if worth it.
Thanks to your review I am ordering both 3D version and 4K.
Just wish the would do a 4K and 3D pack save buying the 2 versions.
I be watching it on my Sony 3D projector 👌👌
Thank you for still reviewing optical media ! And reviewing the overall quality of the latest releases! The 3D Blu-ray of Avatar 2 is superb ! and thanks for suggesting the high frame rate !
I am watching on a Sony PS3 Super Slim with Sony Active shutter 3D on my beloved oldie but still substantially superior goodie; the Sony Bravia XBR65Z9D!
After watching Avatar2 3D Blu-ray I watched Resident Evil After life 3D ( it was also filmed on Avatars Sony Fusion 3D Cameras).
And I was so blown away by the gorgeous detail and depth of the Image and especially the lighting such as flash lights! I don’t care how many nitts an Oled or QLED can push ,when seeing the flashlights for the first time in 3D this is a whole nother level of realism and depth .Same can be said about Avatar with its water and glowing night and heavy daylight scenes . This depth leaves you with an actual 3rd dimensional memory imprint of the movie .which is an imprinted feeling of had been there in real life compared to any 2D 4K TV that is forgettable.
I hope Apple helps 3D return with its pro vision.
Also what you see on the Avatar 2 ,4K transfer is up scaled as a true native 4K rendered CGI film is decades away because raw processing power to run real-time proxy previews is non existent .
Keep doing what your doing and don’t forget to have fun.
As an owner of an LG E6, thank you for posting this!
I am still rocking a Epson 5025UB as my projector along with a Samsung S95B. The 3D is pretty great on this one.
Will likely pick up the 3D version to enjoy on my 75Z9D. 👍
I think a reason you’re not seeing a big resolution difference between this and the 4K UHD disc is because your Panasonic does an amazing job upscaling. I recently watched Avatar 1 3D on my UB820 and it looked like a 4K disc no joke. I was mesmerized by how good it looked.
Does it upscale 3D? …3D is typically 1080p X2, 1080p for each eye, and always looks better to me than 1080p 2D.
Each of your eyes are seeing a completly seperate 1080p image (with shutter glasses anyway). 3D always looked razer sharp to me on my projector vs a 1080p 2D as your brain is seeing 2 slightly different views of the world (seeing different details) and joining it all up in your head to produce what is effectively a high detail/resolution image than 1080p 2D, if that makes sense.
Hate that LG doesn’t support 3d, would look great on new OLED
My old LG does…
Should be getting the 3D Discs in the mail tomorrow. Super excited. I use the Sony ubp-x800m2 as my 3D Blu-ray player and my 65 inch LG Oled C6 as my 3D TV.
Great review. Definitely 3D for me. Glad you mentioned Pacific Rim. I LOVED that movie in 3D. With how amazing that movie was in addition to the first Avatar movie who would have thought the state of 3D at home would be what it is today. With that said I can't wait to watch this movie in 3D. So glad they released it on 2 discs rather than 1. I actually had my TV convert it in 3D when I bought the digital release so I can't wait to see how much better the 3D disc will be. I am still hoping for a 3D Blu-ray of The Abyss. I really hope that happens.
My 3D Blu-ray player is my PS3 and my 3D display is an LG HD 3D TV.
I completely agree on a 3D release of The Abyss. I have wanted that one released that way. Would love to see that in 3D.
@@PrinceVegeta9891 Did they convert that one to 3D recently? If so, I completely missed the memo.
@@the3ddinosaur87 Not that I have heard but I really want them to. It would be fantastic in 3D if done right.
@@PrinceVegeta9891 Cameron is notoriously slow with producing his films in the latest technology. It took years for him to release Titanic on Blu-ray. Blu-ray, y'all.
@@kevinstrother8712 But when he did it was amazing in 3D along with the 3D release of T2. I know right now the Avatar films are taking all his time but a Blu-ray 3D of The Abyss Extended Edition would be an instant buy.
3D and Apple Vision Pro.
Running a Sony XBR-75X940C in 2023 for both my 3D and 4K selection. I appreciate you keeping it alive. I hope they bring back home 3D in the future with higher resolution.
I’ll be picking up the 3D version. I have a 3D tv, but will be replacing it soon. Sadly they don’t have the tech in newer TV. Eventually I’ll have to get a projector to have 3D
I still have my LG Cinema 55” 3D tv I had since 2016 still in great condition I hv Like 125 3D movies still
Definitely got to get the 3D version! I have an Epson 4010 projector.
Am just picking up the 3d version and skip the 4k. I use a projector to watch 3d on but I still have few Panasonic plasma's hanging around also I can watch on.
I discovered I can watch 3D movies with Oculus Quest 2. I never really watched any from beginning to end yet. My first experience was really bad and ditched the idea, but I later realized it was because of low quality half side by side conversion (probably meant for 3d tv's) . I'm now converting Avatar 1 myself, testing different quality setting but I'm already quite impressed with some 10 minutes of watching.
Still rocking my Panasonic 50EX750 3D TV!!! 😁 Gonna be upgrading soon though - and the other half does NOT want a projector of ANY kind, so will miss my entire 3D collection (which is quite sizeable now) until I can convince her otherwise. Sadly, that might not be for a few years yet (think like, another 10, rather than another 2 years!) 😔
Spot on review and mega props for shouting out Pacific Rim. I so agree... It is my go to 3D demo movie. There are movies that may have a singularly impressive scene or pop out but from beginning to end there is just something about Pac Rim that makes it stand head and shoukders above.
Thanks to your recommendation, I’m rocking a Sony VPL-XW6000es Projector with the XPAND Vision 3D emitter! I’m loving my 3D setup!
Sounds like another must buy title, thanks for the review! Yep Still cranking 3D in 2023 here, Epson tw7100 (hc3800) with mostly Samsung Bluetooth glasses, via a Panny UB820 at 120" still a great experience.
Thanks for the review Shane. Covered everything the average 3d nut wants to know. 😉. I'm running an sony hw55es and epson hc3500. Elite tab tension 1.3 gain 120" isf certified. Yamaha aventage rx a3070 in 7.2.4. A mix of xpand glasses and bluetooth. A bit of projector / screen positioning adjustment in the last week has resulted in no ghosting using bluetooth which i'm pretty gobsmaked about tbh after being a bit dissatisfied with it for 2 years. There always seem to be something to learn for this hobby..
Hi Shane, great review - I have the 3d discs coming soon on pre-order. I am running projector based systems, using Sony 40 ES and 45 ES (SXRD) Projectors and Denon 6300H and 6700 H amplifiers. I use a REL TX9 sub and B & W speakers using HTM 71’s for the L,R and C channels which have enough bass response to do without the REL’s except for music listening and all the other speakers are B & W switchable direction speakers. The screen is a Grand View aluminium framed fixed screen. Best demo disc perhaps ‘Journey to the Centre of the Earth’?
3D for my oculus quest 2 streamed from my PC! Listening to it on my audio Atmos receiver! Easy choice
3D if my copy ever shows up! My Benq HT 3550 projector does a fine job.
Is there a reason the atmos was left off the 3d? technical? or driving 4k sales?
Disney/Fox doesn't put Atmos on standard Blu-rays only 4ks, them and Sony are still the only ones that do this
My OLED LG E6 65" is waiting for this disc like never before.
These things sold out fast am glad I pick mine right up after the review
Shane, thanks for your sacrifice (13 viewings! Whew!) and review. Having seen this in the theater in 3D, I didn’t hesitate to pre-order the 3D set. Your honest review reassures me I made the right call
I might get it on 3d my Xbox one x upmixes soundtrack to Dolby Atmos.
Doesn't it support it natively?
@@markus19999 no
I saw this in 3D twice in cinemas, I felt it was great in the beginning, but not so much at the end, and I wondered if maybe my eyes were adjusting and ignoring the 3D depth as anything special at the tail end of 3 hours, or if the effect wasn't consistent throughout (or maybe a bit of both). I am picking up the 3D version, but Sweden is not getting its own 3D release so I'll have to import it.
Haven't seen Pacific Rim in 3D, wasn't the biggest fan of that movie when I first saw it. For me personally my reference for great 3D is Thor Ragnarok, I will always watch that one in 3D for as long as I have 3D equipment.
Pacific Rim is really great in 3D its a must own imo. I have a fairly large collection of 3D blurays, and it's in my top 3.
I preordered the 3D from DMC. I have an Optoma HD143X (DLP) projector and 84” screen with a 5.1.2 Atmos setup. I also have nearly 200 3D Blu-ray titles, and growing.
I watched it yesterday on my AWOL 3500 on a 135” Elite Screen.
i use my Meta Quest Pro headset to watch the most immerserve 3D movies. its the best way to watch them
This is the way. What do you do for sound though? I don't know of an app that plays atmos tracks and even if it could how does vr headset output to a receiver.
@@lghdr6365Connect it to a PC with the movie running on the PC and receiver connected to PC.
@@xXSinForLifeXx Is this a steamvr setup? Ive only ever done stand alone or mobile. But it sounds like that's the way to get vr watching with atmos sound.
I did see the dolby 3D in the theaters and this movie should be watched in 3D
Founds a Sony 3d player at the thrift store for $10 and then snagged an old lg 3d tv on Facebook market place and talked him down to $90. It’s been a lot of fun watching 3d movies. May take a little time do recreate my setup for cheap, but not difficult or impossible.
i'm a 3D fan also, and appreciated your review and information. You mentioned in your review about the LG oled 3dTV which is a passive 3D TV like in the theaters. You also did a review of the Sony XW6000es Projector using an expand 3d kit and RF glasses. My question to you is: Can the Sony projector do Passive 3D as well. The projector specs say "full 3D support" does that mean it can produce the 3D image; with passive glasses used like the Theaters and my passive LG OLED 3DTV. RF glasses gives me and the family headaches. My Sony 46" 3DTV with RF glasses are headed to the dumpster.
ps. I bought the Avatar 3D movies.
Still using my Panasonic VT60 to see 3D movies ... it is 10 years old now, holy moly.
Really enjoyed the review. I received my disc Friday from Best Buy, I'm watching 3d movies on my 65in LG E6. I think I would be hard pressed to find a better 3d display. Thoughts? Thanks again for reviewing the physical media!
3D dlp projectors can be had for not too much money and they throw very bright images.
@@therealshanelee perlisten d212s in the back ?
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8x in the theatre thank you AMC Alist. I am anxiously awaiting my 3D bluray to watch again on my 2015 LG. I always loved the floating ash after the Jake wakes up amidst the smoldering Home Tree in the original.
Great review, what hardware is everybody running?
I have 2 Sony 55x9005b tv's, a Sony playstation 3d monitor, a Sony KDL 43w805c and a Royole Moon headset. For 3d players I use PS3 (mostly) and my PS4.
At the moment I do not have a 4K player, but I'm looking to buy a Sony x800m2 player. And maybe a 3D projector in the near future.
Awesome review!! I am excited for mine to arrive this week.
Will be watching the 3D version using a Pioneer LX500 disc player and a Sony 46HX850 TV
You have convinced me to get this for my Sony Z9D ✌️
Can’t wait to see it since I also have a z9D and outside of Z9K this is a super bright tv for 3D!
@@kingmufasa7981 I thought the ZD9 was the last Sony Z series that did 3D. The Z9k is 8k master series but no 3d?
Did they make an update for the Sony’s that disabled 3D on Active models? Heard something about that so I have been on the fence about getting a Z9D (plus the other glasses synching issues some people have been complaining about)
@@filipmartinez1162 how are you going to order ZD9 Sony that's 6 years old?
@@filipmartinez1162 ….my Z9d is fully up to date and active 3D has never been disabled
Can't wait! Delivery arrives soon.
Ill be watching on my LG OLED C6P.
But im also selling the LG OLED (Curved screen) to buy a projector. (just need ro save some more money lol)
Anyone wanna buy the LG from me?? Lol.
We need to convince Kaleidescape to carry 3D movies. It takes you out of the movie switching disk. They would also have a lot of movies that aren't available in the US
I've asked. They have no interest and it would take a lot of work to have it supported.
@@therealshaneleehat they need to have are downloadable native HDR12 files for the high cost of their ecosystem. Studios lend them 12 bit HDR ProRes mezzanine files, so they could encode their files as 12 bit 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 rather than 10 bit 4:2:0.
Then there would be little need for Dolby Vision support, which they lack anyway.
@@therealshanelee Such a missed opportunity.. We should start a petition. VUDU can do it, I'm sure Kaleidescape can do it.
Hi Shane, Great video, I am new to home theatre but building a house with a dedicated room, I game a lot and love 3D movies, I will go through your videos for references but was wondering if you had suggestions for someone with around a 25k budget (whole room) I would love a 9.2.4 setup with Atmos and was thinking of Klipsch or KEF for the speakers, and the Sony VPL-VW295ES as a native 4k that's still supports 3D. Would love some suggestions or alternatives if you have any!
I’m getting the Scandinavian 4K of each movie. Plus the German 3D steelbook of way of water. I still got my old 3D version on blu-ray of the first movie.
I’m watching 3D on my old Philips tv. With the glasses from the cinema.
Watched today on my Valve Index in Bigscreen. Nothing like watching a 3d movie in VR while looking at a 100 foot screen. Even though the screens you are actually looking at are smaller than your average smartphone.
I just watched the video on your review. Fasten your seatbelts, Shane Lee! I still have, in terrific condition...just haven't used it in a moment, a fully operational Sony Play station 3 3D-display I have watched my 3d movies on including the original Avatar a few years back. One of the best 3d presentations was Marvel's "The Avengers" (2012), with the play station 3d glasses that came with the tv the battle in New York jumped off the screen including that one long shot following each Avenger during the battle.
Thanks for the review. Great content, as always!
I don’t have a 3D tv, but if it’s a worthwhile upgrade, I may consider it, for my next tv, in about 2-4-6 more years… but then it will depend on how the quality differs between the blue ray and the 4K blue ray, as well with the hdr, and Atmos…
3D Tvs no longer exist you would need to buy a projector.
I waiting to my Amazon order to arrive as well, to se the movie on my Sony Z9D, I love the immersion effect on 3D movies.
Have both Bluray's and the DTS-HD sound track is louder by at least 3-5db
66% of the HFR scenes did not have the Soap Opera effect. Namely mostly the underwater scenes did not have them despite always being 48 fps.
Shane, great review as always. I have the JVC NZ8 with the 3D emitter and glasses. I will definitely be buying this version of the disc. The first "Avatar" movie was just okay in my opinion, that's why I haven't seen this one yet. Sorry that you have had to watch this movie 13 times! 😂
I started this on my Samsung JS8500, and it looks incredible in 3D. After watching the 4K disc first, I have to say 3D is the best way to watch this movie.
Great review. I can't wait to finally watch this flick on 3D Blu-ray. I reviewed this film in 3D at the theater when it first came out and it was hands down the greatest 3D experience I've ever had, in theater or at home. The first Avatar also had reference quality 3D. But in my opinion, I think there are a few films, including this one, that just edge out over it. This one in particular just had more to work with in terms of 3D because of all the water scenes. That's just my thought though. Still, while I am curious to see for myself how the 4K version works out, I know 3D will still be the definitive way to see it. It's definitely a real shame that 3D Blu-ray nowadays is kinda on life support. It's up to people like us to keep it alive. Personally, I'm still holding out hope that Puss in Boots 2 and Jaws (1975) will make their way onto 3D Blu-ray someday.
I look forward to your reviews. Terse and succinct!❤
Got the original 3D avatar (i paid £1.00) playing on a 2nd hand LG 3D 50" tv (2011) i recently bought for a pittance. I love it.
Awesome video, Shane! 3D is the ONLY way to watch this movie at home. I will buy several versions of the 3D (steelbook, standard, etc) - and NONE of the 2D versions. I use a JVC NZ8 to watch 3D. WE NEED JAWS 3D Blu-ray NOW after avtar 2 has been released!
Watching it on the BenQ 7050i ultra short throw projector. As always, thanks for the review. I didn't think they were going to release it on 3D at first.
I'd love to see you review more japanese marvel 3D releases!
Hung on to my 3D TV for too long but I had to go 4K and there are very few 3D 4K TV options out there. Thankfully the Quest 2 plays 3D movies excellently
How does it play them?
Can’t wait for my copy to arrive as I missed it in the theater. I’ll be watching on my good old plasma: Samsung pn60f8500afx
Shane I’m trying to understand your 3d strength rating now: if Avatar is a 10 but pacific rim is stronger, yet there are movies with even stronger 3d such as comin’ at ya, journey to the center of the earth, a turtles tale: Sammie’s adventures, thunder and the house of magic, Thor Ragnarok, dr. Strange, ghost in the shell - do these movie with stronger 3d now occupy a space above a 10?
Plan on watching on my BenQ HT3550. Question: is the only way to watch with 48FPS? I was not a fan of the HFR at all in the theatrical showing.
I understood it as it's not in HFR, 3:03
its 24fps. what he is saying is you can use motion smoothing to make it look like 48fps. I would definetly not recommend that.
@@alim998097 I interrupted that as him saying that 4k blu-rays don't support 3D or HFR, SO this is a 1080p blu-ray (because it has 3D and HFR).
@@tofo8144 Ohhh, interesting. Yeah, definitely won't be doing that lol. Thank you!
I have a 2014 LG OLED HDTV and the Sony Z9D 4K TV. I much prefer watching 3D on the older LG set.
I watched the very first Avatar in 3D Imax. I think 3D is definitely the way to go but haven't seen this one yet.
I read the moment we switch from disc 1 to disc 2 was chosen poorly and is quite abrupt. Would you say that as well?
It was at the end of a scene before going into the next one. I didn't have an issue with it.
It was between two scenes, but it could have been done better. It doesn't even fade to black.
Great review Shane. Big 3D fan.
i have a 3D RCA TV but unfortunately the sound does not work on the tv any more...i did get external speakers BUT they won't work for the 3D that has to played on PS3. the speaker are connected to the tv but only work when im using my computer and the TV. If anyone knows a work around please let me know. Thx :)
where does the movie stop and tell you to switch to the next disc?
Is there a way to use VR headsets like the Quest 2 or the new PSVR2?
PS4 and PSVR support 3D Blu-ray but not PS5 and PSVR2.
@@3-dtravel776 How about the Quest 2?
Anyone watching 3d movies on VR headsets? and is it any good?
I have a 4K setup but want to buy the 3D version for now, thinking of buying the Oculus 3 when released for 3D movies.
Please make sure that you see a 3D movie (particularly this one) on a Virtual Reality screen at some point in your life (recommend Skybox VR for playback). It's a game changer. And headsets will only get more comfortable and higher resolution. And before you totally crap on my comment if you hate VR, remember, 3D is booming there and it just may keep the 3D home viewing industry on life support and into recovery.
I can’t understand why they didn’t release this in time for Father’s Day! Would hav been the perfect gift.
I got my 3 copies (A1 4K, A2 4K SS, and A2 3D) on Saturday. It was a Father's Day gift to myself. 😊
@@volcalstone Awesome! Congrats bro! I think I’ll pick up the 3D Way of Water and just stick with my 3D Avatar. This review was really helpful.
That is true!
Can anyone give me information on how to obtain a VR-compatible version of Avatar 2? Seeing Avatar 2 3D in theaters was very cool, but not ideal. (the glasses setup was kind of janky, there was glare, etc.) I was browsing TH-cam one day and discovered a 4k 3D trailer of Avatar 2 on TH-cam that utilized stereoscopic 3d, and it was incredible. If anyone has a VR headset to view these trailers on I highly urge you to try it. I imagine the full movie in this format would be some of the most immersive content out there.
What are the languages that are available? Is there an Russian audio mix?
Hoping Cameron (with Avatar) + Apple (with Vision Pro) will bring back 3D.
Wouldn’t that be something
I think it's likely that the next TV iteration after 8K will be 8K/4K 3D with HDR. That would be a way that TV manufacturers could bring me to buy a new TV after owning a 4K HDR OLED already.
@@bened22 I agree. Let’s hope so
Better not be digital smoke only. We need 3D Blu-Rays
@@bened22 would be nice if they dropped all the marketing bullshit
Sounds like 3D is the winner for me. A DTS 5.1 or 7.1 should never have better bass than an Atmos mix. Doesn’t sound like I have much reason to double dip, so 3D it is!
I'm buying both Avatar The Way Of Water on 4k Ultra HD Steelbook and Blu-ray 3D 👊👊🖤
The best way to watch this movie is.
In a middle ground between 4k and 3D. What you do is put the 4k version on and then select the 2D to 3D option on your 3D tv. The resolution will stay at 4K but with a slight pop
Will I notice anything much watching this on the 4K disc vs watching it on hbo which also offers hdr and atmos?
🤣🤦♂
For me 3D >>>>>> all the rest since 2009
Hype over 9000 for my Germany blu ray 3D steelbook!!!!
So SiCK of turning my volume up to MAX jus to watch a movie. I really hope when Abyss & True Lies finally comes out. We won't hav to Break the volume knob jus to hear it. And hav to make our own Bass sound & feel. Jus to make a Impact.. Smh, Disney SUCK!!! Good Review!!🤩
How would it look in 3D on a 4K DLP projector with 133 inch
3D TV surpasses 2D TV, but like Polyphonic Aftertouch with release velocity on electronic synth keyboards used to create movie soundtracks, 3D TV was dropped because of majority consumer choice allowing it. There is a reason 1990's low resolution DVD's at Walmart still outsell Bluray and 4K disks to be used on high definition 4K TV's in 2023, which is somewhat like buying a 1.4 meg floppy disk sold during the same DVD format time period for use with a new 2024 laptop computer. But consumers don't like being taken advantage of and learn as technology grows and many people now want 3D TV brought back just like Polyphonic Aftertouch which is now a much desired "new" feature being implemented again better than before thanks to ASM and KORG as well as a few other companies like Waldorf and Yamaha putting Poly AT back in use. So 3D TV will be brought back too IMO with immense improvements but not until consumers stop buying DVDs when replacing their worn out 4K TV for another 4K or 8K TV.
Selling DVD keeps Blu-ray prices up, and having both outdated formats still available keeps 4K disk prices up even higher.
One issue 3D TV encountered adding misinformation was the discovery some people have poor 3D eyesight in need of correction due to one weak eye causing eyestrain and even headaches for a small minority of people resulting in enough bad reviews to make 3D seem like a gimmick to people who never tried it and a problematic format due to the small minority of people with poor 3D eyesight making a lot of noise about it. In reality watching 3D TV can correct a weak eye like an eye patch put on the stronger eye to balance out both eyes restoring normal balanced 3D vision. If you use a telescope a lot you will find the eye in use becomes the strong eye and when you switch eyes you don't process what you see as well showing the brain has something to do with it as well so can't wait to see what 3D TV becomes in time.
Just connected my Blu-ray player to Vudu. Anyone know if they have frame packed 3D? The one movie I tested (a free with ads one) played in side by side format.