Avoid These Digital Movie Collecting Mistakes | How to Build & Manage an Apple TV iTunes Library
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- In this video I talk about a major movie collecting mistakes I made with my Apple iTunes library of content. I also go into detail how I manage and curate my digital collection and am working around the failure mode of buying too many digital codes instead of always just purchasing direct from Apple. I also give a variety of tips for cost effectively build your iTunes collection.
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I find the easiest way to check for deals is to add movies to your wishlist in the store then just check your wishlist every few days. The prices will update.
Oh yes, good call. I do this too. 👍🏻
Where is the wishlist in the store?
I wish all platforms would include free upgrades to the highest resolution besides Apple. It's gotta be a mess to repurchase the same movie in order to upgrade.
Just torrent ghe 4k movies bro if you have already bought the movie (in other resolution)
Just found the channel man, love the work!
Awesome, thank you!
Great video. I am a disc buyer, but I'm not foolish and won't buy any digital I ( I used my codes myself as well ). Many titles have never went to Blu Ray but are available in 1080p via streaming. I initially started with iTunes several years back, and then switched to Vudu because they were the first to really get into 4K, plus they would initially redeem a lot of TV shows as well with digital codes, also they have an upgrade path from 1080p to 4k. However, I went back to full iTunes when the last generation Apple 4K TV came out ( Since then I have upgraded to the latest Gen). iTunes has by far the greatest sales going on their content, and I too wait and buy the expensive stuff when it goes on sale, and you usually do not have to wait long. Plus they have the best quality. Thank you for your iTunes upgrade tip, that's something I did not know. 😄 As before, I mentioned that I buy Disc's. I've been ripping my discs for approximately 14 years. I think I started with a Pop Corn Hour, then went to Plex when nobody really knew who they were, and now still use Plex, but I have a newer Zappiti Neo as well. Never went the Kaleidescape route, but have watched them for years. Great videos thanks!
Nice! Thanks for watching and sharing!
Excellent video. You schooled me a bit on Apple movies. I didn't know about the upgrades and the use of iTunes. I forgot all about iTunes when one of the oS upgrades back in the day removed it from our MacBooks. Lately I have been struggling with which route to go. I have almost 2,000 movies on my circa 14' HTPC running PLEX and gave some thought to upgrading to more modern specs so I could start putting 4k movies into my PLEX library. However, I read over on the AVS forums that some people were running into issues with copyright when ripping a 1:1 UHD. Reminds me of the 1080 days to be honest with you. So, then I thought about purchasing physical media again along with a Panasonic player to get the best possible picture and sound. I know housing a bunch of physical movies will get old again pretty quick - even if some of the steelbook art is awesome. I thought about Kaleidescape but I don't like the ideal of spending so much money to get started plus not having the ability to merge my already large collection. I get why, but it's a bummer. We have about 10 (sad, I know) Apple 4K titles, so perhaps I could start growing there but now that were adding atmos into our theater I wanted to take advantage of the best pq and sq that only physical media (or the Kaleidescape) can bring. But the question is, will I even notice the difference? Shane over at sparechange seems to boast about the differences. At the end of the day I prefer the UI such as what PLEX, Kaleidescape, Apple, and others offer. It's nice having your movies all in once location. Streaming has spoiled us in that regard. Since you have a Kaleidescape what differences do you notice between it and Apple? Is the PQ and SQ really that noticeable? Do you see yourself purchasing movies on both or mainly sticking to Apple? Thanks - Judd
This is such a huge topic for me and something I debate and swing back and forth on all the time. In my experience, the difference from watching movies on Apple iTunes to K or disc has really diminished, especially on the video side. If I sat you in my room, true blind volume-matched test, I bet you'd fail an A/B between iTunes and disc/K. I bet I would as well.
That said, we spend all this money on our rooms and gear and I agree with the idea of wanting to feed it the highest quality source content available, which is disc or K. Both have their pros and cons there too. K wins so much on convenience, ease of use, access, and elegance. It's just really expensive, but if you have the money, who cares.
I try to convince myself all the time to shed replicate solutions for thing. Simplify life. Try to be minimalist focused. It's not always easy. Right now, I'm still building an iTunes library and a K library (I just bought the entire 25 Bond film bundle last week on K) and even still ripping a bit. One the one hand, I really dislike collecting the same movies twice and having redundant devices and knowing it's kind of wastefully spending, but on the other hand, I can afford to do it. Being able to afford something though, still doesn't make it necessary smart.
Ripping stuff really sucks, to me, quite honestly. It's a time sink. Something you have to manage. Has so many risk factors and pitfalls and shortcomings. All it takes is another copy protection revision and maybe ripping dead ends. And I doubt we see another physical media format after 4k discs, meanwhile internet-delivered content should advance.
I've started a video a couple times on this topic, but it's hard to talk on it and not ramble too much, so I haven't figured out how to tackle it. Maybe a live stream where I could dialog and go down a few roads of thought would be the best format.
If you have the discs you ripped and were considering K, you could hopefully get access to a D2D plan in their store, but you'd have to work with a dealer to do it.
Thanks for the upgrade workaround! Gift it to yourself method..👍🏾
You’re welcome! I use it quite a bit. Works great.
Great video! Is it possible to store the movies on a local drive and share that to your devices within your network rather than streaming everything? Our only ISP available in our neighborhood has data limits that we easily exceed with 4k streaming.
Not really with Apple. Even if you download to a local machine/iTunes share or server, you can only download HD quality.
Good stuff, keep it up!
Thanks!
So much has changed, but the best way to do IMO is buy the hard 4k disk and use the digital code that most come with,. Then you have the physical copy and a digital one you didn’t pay for with another transaction. My only complaint is Apple does not seem to let you store things on an external drive anymore so you have to use the Apple Cloud to watch and I dislike their interface. I don’t know about everyone else but I like my movies to start from the beginning each time.
The in,ymovies you can’t download is the 4K editions… all 1080p editions are still downloadable
I started my digital movie collection a couple of years through ITunes, best decision I made because of those free upgrades
Well done! I agree 100%.
I’m really glad I’m not the only nut that likes to buy digital primarily. If there’s a whole series of films that’s in a sizable format that I love. I’ll buy it physically, plus it comes with the codes anyways. It’s a win win all the time. For me at least.
Nice!
Hi there
Great video 👍🏻🙂
Do you download your iTunes Films to Hard Disk Drives?
Thanks! I do not bother downloading my iTunes purchases. There's really not a reason to any more. You can only download in HD quality to a computer anyway.
Hmm, I haven’t noticed that problem, of course I always redeem the movies digital copy, via either iTunes or Movies Anywhere… of course I also did rebuy some movies that I wanted to have the disc version, in 4K regardless….
Nice Video Jaremy! But I have a question for you. Do you know if Movie Codes REDEEMED at iTunes (not from Movies Anywhere) qualifies for the Apple free 4K upgrade?
Yes, if you had redeemed the code directly with Apple then it looks like a direct Apple purchase and should get free quality upgrades.
Hi, i'm a sicilian guy that loves collecting the movies i liked, so i recently found very interesting your channel. I'm learning a lot, so...thanks! I been collecting fisical media for years, but recently i started with digital movies. Especially i use iTunes and i've an apple tv 4k. But..What do you think about sales on prime video? i found many deals in the store section of Prime video. Have you ever tried it? congrats for your content!
Sweet and welcome to the channel! Amazon has some nice prices at times, but I don't trust Amazon streaming quality. I think Apple is the best store from which to buy digital content.
You have SO many movies!!!!! I've recently started building a library. What made you want to start collecting? At first, I just wanted all the movies from my favourite actress, but then I decided I wanted to own my other favourite movies, then I started collecting movies my family members like, and now I want to collect all movies that are "culturally significant", even if I haven't seen them. What was your motivation and did it evolve? And do you still subscribe to streaming services like Netflix, etc.?
That's a great topic for a video! I've always been a movie fan and a have long had a collector mentality with various things, so I guess it made sense to merge the two. :) I do still sub to various services for the exclusive content they produce.
Thanks for letting me know I can re buy the movies on 4k to email myself
You bet!
Thanks for this video Jeremy. I had this same problem with only one movie, which was “Elysium” my only mistake is that when I bought the Blu-ray Bundles I already owned two of them in my iTunes library 4K HDR but once the code redeemed I got one movie added to MoviesAnywhere labeled as HD. Now I can’t have an upgrade or repurchase from iTunes, stuck with the HD version. So frustrating
Do the gifting trick to yourself. You'll have to buy the movie again, but it will get you the 4K version.
@@Techthusiasm Thank you so much Jeremy, I’ve purchased the UHD version from Prime Video for $6.99 and now it’s updated every where. :D
Nice! I wish Apple made this easier to re-buy something you already own for the upgrade.
I purchased The Force Awakens, the last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker by mistake. It’s been a couple of years now. I want to get rid of them permanently but I can’t delete my other collection of movies, music and tv shows in my library
You can hide purchases in iTunes, and they won't show up in your library any more.
I wish Apple still used that old iTunes with the vertical posters. Ah, I miss that. Even on my phone, tablet, and TV. I want vertical posters back!
And let me change the "sort as" title across all platforms without downloading it. Sometimes, I want a series all together in order, but the first word is different.
Apple needs more library customization for our collections, for sure.
I once purchased on iTunes Dracula Untold on HD but I never got the 4k upgrade for some reason, I still have on HD only
Sometimes an updated release of a movie in iTunes is done as a new and separate listing. It’s really lame when they do that though. In that case you won’t get an upgrade.
Great video! I hate when the studios don't include any iTunes extras for no reason. Perfect example I bought Kick Ass 1 and 2 yesterday on iTunes for my digital collection so Kick Ass 1 comes with iTunes extras but, Kick Ass 2 dose not. I thought that was odd so I looked up the physical release and, yes Kick Ass 2 dose come with audio commentary and other features. Also Kick Ass 1 is in 4k but, 2 is only in HD on iTunes. So why can we have Kick Ass 1 in 4K with iTunes extras but, not Kick Ass 2?
I think KA2 has not yet had any kind of 4k release. I would say in general iTunes is one of best platforms for special features access as well, but there’s always an odd piece of content or whatever missing them.
Is there any digital movie platforms that have a shuffle feature?
I saw your notes on my other video about Kaleidescape with a similar question, so check my reply there.
Can you take movies out of VUDU and watch your purchased movies outside of VUDU? or is it the same kind of thing with Apple TV with accessing bought movies?
I'm not aware of any way to do that with VUDU. Note as well that VUDU is changing coming up into Fandango.
Fandango? Wait, I don't understand that last sentence. Also Would you still recommend Apple TV over VUDU, even for non apple users?@@Techthusiasm
Yes, I recommend Apple over Vudu 100%. www.theverge.com/2024/2/16/24075041/vudu-fandango-at-home-rebranding-new-name
sir, recently i downloaded a digital movie from an android app. the movie was labeled as 720p, but vlc showed that the actual resolution was 1280xless than 720.
a similar thing happened with a movie labeled 1080p. vlc media player showed that the actual resolution was 1920xless than 1080.
why does such a difference in resolution exist?
btw...thanks for your video
No idea on that kind of content source, sorry,. Thanks for watching!
Hey I’m in Germany and have bought everything from German iTunes so far, which is fine for movies. Now I’m trying to get two shows which would run me third of the price through US iTunes. I know how to get them but can’t find info on what switching between us and German library would look like. Do you know? If the convenience of Apple TV gets bastardized too much I might not consider the saved money worth it. Thanks in advance
Sorry, I don't have any guidance to offer for doing that.
Great video again. IMO if you are only buying digital media then I agree that buying directly from the iTunes Store is the way to go. I currently have 1853 digital movies in my library and some of them are duals exactly for that reason the original Scream comes to mind that I just rebought. I find most of the time the one I’m rebuying didn’t come with iTunes Extras and the new one does plus the bump in video and/or audio upgrade.
Now I still buy disc and whether the digital code is from Movies Anywhere or directly from the Studio is movie dependent. I would estimate at least half if not a little bit more of the types of movies I buy on disc the code works directly in the iTunes Store so it’s seen as an iTunes purchase so I receive any upgrade Apple does for that particular movie. Now sometimes a movie will get a 4k upgrade and I will get just that and sometimes if it’s a full blown upgrade with iTunes extra I will get that as well but it seems to depend as you said where I got the code from. Whether is was UV or Movies Anywhere which can be connected to multiple accounts like your Prime Video or Vudu account if you bought movies there.
As far as upgrading I’ve never used the gifting method. As I most use the Apple TV to rebuy movies that have been upgraded that aren’t automatically upgraded I typically only have to do a search on the iTunes Store in the app and the only copy that shows up is the iTunes copy that I don’t have current rights to and I can buy that. For example when the new version of the original Scream came out I thought I already owned it so I looked in my purchase snd sure enough it was there but in HD but in the store it showed the new version in Dolby Vision/ATMOS and of course I don’t own that version and it just let me buy it. I didn’t have the play icon like you showed so maybe that is just a feature of using the iTunes Store on your computer or phone.
My biggest issue it with the library itself and not having the ability to edit the Genre when it is missed labeled. I have some sci-fi movies categorized as Action/Adventure and vice versa. I would love that fixed.
I have no doubt in my mind that we will eventually get lossless audio and though the Bitrate will never be as high as physical media or Kaleidscape I think for 99 percent of the people it will be good enough. And while I support Kaleidscape’s existence and the movie wall is cool, IMO it doesn’t bring real value. Genre separation on iTunes is basically the same thing without all the flashiness. Portability alone makes me choose that over Kaleidscape.
Anyways another great video and keep them coming!
Thanks for sharing and the compliments! On thing that burned me specifically is the codes that ported into my iTunes were HD codes. Then that movie was upgraded to 4k in the iTunes store. In that case, Apple doesn't give you the 4k upgrade. That's where you have to rebuy the same movie and the gifting trick is needed to be able to buy it. I fear the same thing might happen again later one for 4k right ported in if we get 8k or high bit rate 4k. You won't get that upgrade later on 4k ported in rights. We will see. I agree and believe Apple will continue to push quality/bit rates and such in time. They are already doing with music. Movies shouldn't be far behind.
@@Techthusiasm that’s weird. Because most of the codes I have for just Blu-ray Disc were upgraded to 4k if they were redeemed on iTunes as opposed to UV or Movies anywhere. I only say that because honestly I don’t remember which Blu-ray’s were bought there. I know some of the movies you could use the code directly on the iTunes Store redeem function.
Oh, sorry, I see what you mean. There are really two kinds of codes or ported rights. There a codes from some studios that were/are redeemed directly in iTunes itself. And there are codes now from most studios that are redeemed in Movies Anywhere and/or ported into iTunes through MA.
Codes redeemed directly with iTunes are "safe". They function like a direct iTunes purchase. Ported rights coming into iTunes through MA are not. Good distinction. I kind of missed that nuance in my video. Maybe a good follow-up topic.
As it is, most codes now are not redeemed with iTunes directly any more. Most have to go through MA for redemption and then port.
@@Techthusiasm I agree.
How do you redeem movies on iTunes? I can’t redeem on iTunes says codes not valid but I can redeem in movies anywhere or any other place
Not all codes are redeemable directly in iTunes. MA codes need to redeemed in MA itself and then they port to iTunes when you have your accounts linked.
Yeah, I’m having an issue right now in fact, when the 78 version of Halloween got upgraded in iTunes that version since Halloween and it’s in 4K and the version I only from iTunes says John carpenters Halloween and it’s an HD and it did not upgrade and I contacted them and they said too bad I have to buy it again They know about the issue so I don’t know what to do. I would like to have my 4K upgrade. Is anyone else having this problem?
Hi I want to build a digital library and I’m going to start with vudu because they have more movies than ITunes is this a good idea?
I don't find Vudu to be all that great. My preference is iTunes, but lots of folks use and like Vudu, especially if you're not in the Apple ecosystem at all yet. I wouldn't think Vudu has more movies either.
@@Techthusiasm are you able to switch the video quality. Let’s say I want to watch a regular hd version of T2 But Apple TV gave me the 4K version can I still watch the regular edition that’s not 4K Because I’m not a fan of 4K
You can manage in settings, I think. Why would you want to force a down-quality stream though?
How can I upgrade an HD version to 4K now that the movies are on the Apple TV app. It doesn’t give me the option to gift a movie.
Use iTunes on a PC or an Apple device. It'll give you the gift option.
Does iTunes have a shuffle feature for your collection?
If you mean like the Kaleidescape wall, no.
I downloaded Once Upon A time in Hollywood via digital download and I noticed that it is no longer in my iTunes library. I had watched it a couple of times and now it doesn’t even pull up in my recently watched. It’s as if it was completely evaporated from memory. Now it is no longer in my iTunes library and I have to purchase it from the store….. what do I do and has this ever happened to you?
See if it's still missing in a few days. Sometimes a movie might go away because they are fixing something, and it comes right back. I have not permanently lost content with iTunes (or K) other than Transformers, which I lost the HD purchase and it came back and I had to rebuy the UHD entry.
I just got a new windows 11 laptop. My ITunes movies will no longer play on my laptop. Any suggestions?
Uninstall/reinstall the app. Remove authorizations/log out and sign in again. Try some stuff like that.
Is there anyway to create a movie/tv show playlist with Apple TV ??
You cannot do this in the iTunes/ATV apps, yet.
@@Techthusiasm in 2023 ? Still ????
Sadly no. Vudu added custom playlists a while ago, but Apple still doesn't have them. Meh.
@@Techthusiasm I’m looking to set up a bunch of shows to play one after another. Like Saturday morning cartoons for example. The up next doesn’t have the customization to do it
How I delete them? It’s impossible to do it on Apple TV device.
You have to use iTunes on a desktop and you can delete from library/hide purchases.
agree with everything you said, thanks for the video, . And 20 bucks for a 4k movie is darn good deal !
Thanks for watching!
Hey dude. I have a question. why Apple TV can't play hd and 4k in my Mac? Mine always played in SD Definition any conclusion?
Go into Settings -> Playback in the TV app and make sure you quality settings are how you want them to maximize quality.
I tried that already still plays in 480p why is this happening?@@Techthusiasm
Hmm, I don't think I have another suggestion. Is this a much older Mac?
@@Techthusiasm 2017 macbook pro
Hmm, maybe there's a limitation in the older hardware. I'm not sure on that.
Do you download the movies onto a local hard drive, or do you stream them. My internet isn’t great so I wonder if downloading onto a local drive of some form, probably a NAS would be best?
You can’t download movies really any more with Apple or iTunes. You would need a Kaleidescape for that. But you still would want somewhat fast internet for it.
I bought the Mario movie at the store with a HD code through movies anywhere. Imported the movie to my Apple library and then realized that Apple had a 4k version on their digital store. However, I wasn’t able to buy the 4k version bc I already have the HD version. How can I buy the 4k version from Apple?
Gift it to yourself is the work-around to this problem that you have to do. Did I talk about that topic in this video? It is dumb that we have to do that, but it works. Buy the movie as a gift and just have it email you the code. Then redeem that code yourself in iTunes. You'll get the 4K version now in your library as a proper purchase which overwrites the ported MA code.
in Europe alot of big movies are missing from Apple tv like John Wick
Yeah, my perspective is from USA stores/offerings. Kaleidescape is best in the USA as well.
Torrenting seems like an obvious choice for people wanting digital libraries but you can't stream any of it. Buying through iTunes at least gives you:
1. A way of streaming the content you bought without having to download it.
2. You can download if you want to for offline viewing.
3. You get the upgrades if you bought through Apple.
4. It syncs with more than 1 device. iPhone, iPad or AppleTV? It just doesn't matter.
I have no objection paying for content as I'll happily support the industry. The biggest downside is it's simply one step closer to not owning shit, at least you can decide what to do with an old DVD/Bluray if you don't want it or it stops working.
I wouldn't advocate torrenting your movie library, but I'm with you on preferring iTunes.
@@Techthusiasm Everyone torrents, people just have to be clever and use a VPN if it's a problem in their country. There aren't many options of where to buy films digitally anymore, everything has just turned into paying for access instead of a product.
Well, I don't torrent movies, and honestly, I'm not sure I know anyone else in the hobby that does. I know plenty that rip their own discs, though.
I would rather get the upgrade
Free upgrades are sweet.
You should say don’t buy HD codes but it’s fine to buy 4K codes.
Well, per my other comments, I fear later on when 8k comes or whatever the next step is if you had bought the 4k movie directly with Apple then you'll get that future upgrade. If you ported in a 4k movie right through MA, you're probably not getting that future upgrade. The HD to 4k upgrade issue/rebuy will happen all over again. I am hedging my bet for the future and not buying HD nor 4k codes.
And what happens when Apple decides some old movie, or part thereof has become "problematic"?
If Apple starts doing stuff like that, I'll figure it out then. I'm not worried though of this situation.
all so with iTunes they don't have all the movies or tv shows or complete seasons that you can purchase ??????????
Well, I would consider iTunes to have probably the biggest library of content of any digital provider, but yeah, they don't have everything made or everything that has ever hit physical media.
when you buy digital movies or tv shows say from iTunes can you loose it not like physical media you have it for life ?????????
In rare cases something could be delisted and removed from your account. This is incredibly rare. If something is delisted for sale from the store and you already own it, you would continue to be able to access your purchase.
I only use services like Vudu or Apple for rentals now. If I buy something, I usually go for 4KBD now, sometimes BD if there is a big price difference. But Vudu or Apple to see the movie first and if it's good enough where I'll watch it again more than just a couple times, then I'll go buy it.
Good strategy!
I use a lot google and TH-cam to buy a movie.
The quality of movies in Google & TH-cam are atrocious.
I lost over $3000.00. Dollars of music downloads from iTunes so I stop using them for any content. I wish I knew how to replace it?
Oh my! How did that happen?
@@Techthusiasm Your guess is as good as mine? All I know is that it hard for me to retrieve it back. It happened years ago so I just stopped trying.
save your music to dvd s or cd rws or a flash drive so if you want to delete it would be stored somewhere else
So now I have my library in 2 places: Plex for my 500 blu-ray rips and iTunes for Digital. Also no way to manage meta data on Apple TV app. Not a good idea IMO
Plus I can’t download to a central storage location or to an appletv. So no I need to have massive storage on iOS device, download there and then use airplay when I have no internet. Apple are idiots when in ones to offline viewing
I bought movies and shows from Apple and still have access to them a decade later.
Yep, always buy from Apple directly.
The problem with Apple is grim - I have built and maintained a movie library for years. Then I moved to a different country and I informed Apple about my moved. They then decided to strip off all my movies content because they claimed the movies I purchased did not have a global licence. This is NOT ON APPLE! You are better buying good old DVDs, put them in your suitcase and reinstall them on a NAS when you get to your new destination. Apple owes me $$$THOUSANDS$$$ and I AM NOT IMPRESSED.
That's a bummer, but a pretty unique and specific case.
not serving 4k after purchased movie is bullshit.
You cant save your purchased 4k movies only Apple device can play it. Not for me. I'll just rip my movies.
Never buy bundles they removed the rights to our own bundle
I'm not sure what you mean by this: "they removed the rights to our own bundle". I have good luck and great savings buying bundles on iTunes.
Apple is Bull 💩💩💩 i have bought over 120 digital movies already
Why is it "bull"?