1:33 Crazy 80's Graphics! 2:54 Silly Crap movie! 3:16 Snake is really that You!? 5:57 John FU Italian Style! 7:49 Play That Funky Music Billy Brooks! 8:38 Martin Rock on on the Drums! 11:44 That will Florida right now! 13:30 Robertson was Right! 15:27 Dam That's Harsh! 16:15 Runaways! 17:57 PS3 Effects! 19:24 Snake says She's Terrible actress! 20:30 Snake Stupid! 21:28 Idoits I am Right Here! 22:10 Why you Motherhammers! 22:49 Dum Snake! 23:12 What What's wrong with this Gun! 24:25 Terrible Cartoon Effects! 25:08 😂😂😂 28:00 Snake ain't got the time to deal with A-hole! 30:49 It's a Trap! 31:50 Surprise Chump! 36:08 Bruce Campbell! 37:52 Shot right on The Chest! 38:16 Shut up Steve! 40:45 Blow them Up!💥 43:03 He just got his A Whooping! 44:24 Turned her around that quick! 46:19 Dump SOB Hunchman! 47:14 Billy Brooks Are you Serious look on his face! 48:20 Real Shot! 49:03 Oh Crap best two of three! 50:05 Terrible Surf CGI And Billy Brooks Escape from Laughing! 51:02 Agree Steve! 52:02 Surf's up Dude and Billy is outta here! 53:12 Bad and Badder Effects! 54:55 Told you he was Dump! 56:54 Cold Blooded! 58:27 Gotcha you're asses! 59:27 The World is Shut down! 1:00:00 Welcome to the Human Race!
Escape from LA was John Carpenter trying to replicate the exploration and B movies he loved as a kid and while i still enjoy it as a Guilty Pleasure it’s tries way too much but Bruce Campbell’s cameo is great and generally a creepy scene
You just can'tt replicate that b movie feel with a 50 million dollar budget movie tho. Although with how terrible this movie looks im sure very little of that went to the screen, Carpenter finessed whatever studio put up the money for that.
The only things funnier than this roast are the John carpenter commentaries featuring Kurt Russell. The two can’t stop laughing when recalling the films they’ve made
As cheesy as it is, this one has a soft spot in my heart. Released in 96, I was 15 at the time and excited for it's release so I partially view it with rose tented glasses. I loved the updated theme along with the Rob Zombie song. I fondly remember the fade to black at the end while sitting in the theater, Snake's voice coming in with "welcome to the human race" right before the end credits..... and then the guy sitting right in front of me looks at his date and says "that was stupid"
It was hilarious that those idiots actually thought that they were going to have talks with Disney and get them to allow the film to shoot the theme park ending at Disneyland.
Sigourney Weaver did a similar thing in 'Alien Resurrection' and got a scored a hoop without looking - you can see Ron Perlman spoil the take in the behind the scenes clips because he was so impressed.
Love Escape from LA. Saw it in the theater four times. Got it on VHS and then on DVD. Own a copy of the original score. I acknowledge the faults with this flick, and can see how it’d be considered a “bad” movie. But, it’s fine by me. Want to give a shout out to Shirley Walker (R.I.P.). John Carpenter is a synth lord. Walker, however, was able to blend his distinct sound with a more sweeping orchestral score that totally works for the movie. It also works listening to it independent of the movie. Woman was a boss level composer. Once again, R.I.P. Also, just wanted to say, really enjoyed Ghost of Mars too. Best adaptation of Doom the big screen ever got.
I love Pam Grier but aside from a few moments this was a bad movie with awful CGI. After Rain Man Valeria Golino I remember her making the Hot Shots movies with Charlie Sheen and kind of just fading away
The helicopter fire was chilling in the back like it was going on a road trip with Snake. It's like when you have a smoking & non-smoking section in a restaurant and the cigarette smoke just knows not to travel over there.
I feel like Escape from New York should've remind a cult classic movie like Big Trouble In Little China, This was just a cash grab sequel that just redo same plotline from original.
I don't think you get what the definition of a cash grab is. ALOT of people seem to fart out that word about things that are clearly not cash grabs because they don't really know what they're talking about. Escape from New York was made in 1981 and was not successful in anyway shape or form. Escape from L.A. was made in 1996 14 years later. A cash grab is made a couple of years after not over a decade later, besides ALL of Carpenter's movies were massive flops except for Halloween. Halloween II was a cash grab. Halloween was made in 1978 and Halloween II was out 1981.
@@lutherheggs451I mean you can have a cash grab but it's gotta be made competently. Godfather 2 came out two years after the first and the first was a paycheck movie based on a paycheck book
1) Firstly, this movie is not set in our world, so the LA depicted in it is not even remotely connected to our LA. In this parallel universe, in 1988 there was a war against an alliance of China and the Soviet Union. This included a Battle for Leningrad in World War III (which is where Plissken lost his eye). The entire West Coast of the US becomes a no-man's land, and the nation's population is gradually being driven insane by nerve gas that was used on US soil during the events of WW3. None of which happened in our world obviously. This of course, being the main driving factor for the maximum security prison on Manhattan Island in New York City, a desperate ploy to contain the millions of people who were gradually becoming mentally unstable from the nerve gas attack (and is why in the first movie so many people behave so strangely). Also of course in this alternative reality, the president of the US was attacked by terrorists on Air Force One and captured by a crime gang active in that prison (which also never happened on our Earth). So Escape from LA is a CONTINUATION of the events that happened in Plisskin's universe, including the events of the previous movie obviously. So your continual comments of "LA is not that bad" has nothing to do with the LA of Snake's universe. It's A DIFFERENT WORLD ENTIRELY from ours. That is the point of Plisskin's universe. It isn't ours but a way more fucked up one where things played out very differently in their recent history. 2) The shark is a fake shark which is outside of universal studios that collapsed into the sea (although "yes" the special effect sequence is terrible regardless). 3) The problem with Snake Plisskin (and which is something that the movie addresses several times in throw away lines) is that his "legend" has greatly exceeded the man himself... especially following the population learning about his escape from New York (which was until he did it deemed to be impossible, expanding his already substantial legend even further). These stories have become ridiculous and exagerrated far beyond anything he actually did. They think he is a tall hulking man, impossible to kill, a living legend, a hero, and mass murdering killer etc etc. But the reality is anything but... he is just a ex-soldier veteran, who just happened to be one of the few who survived World War 3 and with his mind still intact. After fighting in this war and returning to the US Snake is disillusioned by the very country he fought for and by the government who sent him and his friends into the meat grinder, and in his disgust turns mercenary/criminal building up his reputation in the underworld and becoming a symbol of "anti-government" to the people... and who now has attained a legendary status among the population of the US simply for always refusing to lay down and daring to always survive. So the "henchmen" are not stupid, because they genuinely think that Plisskin could kill them all easily without breaking a sweat, and that they wouldn't have a chance if he chose to shoot them (which of course is not true, they had him at a severe disadvantage and likely would have killed him easily if they had just opened fire). Snake uses this peceived "legend" he has attained to his advantage to gain the upper hand, and the henchmen actually genuine think that Plisskin is being benevolent by "giving them a chance" by not drawing until the can hits the ground... which he exploits to his advantage (like he often does). 4) Snake isn't stupid either. There was no reason whatsoever for him to think they were holograms, and was perfectly fine with dying then and there and killing the president rather than be used as a patsy again like the last time. Also, there was no way for him to know the first clip had fake bullets in it (credit to the bad guys for knowing Snake would kill them and predicting it though). Near the end, Snake was not fooled either. If he genuinely believed that the virus was real he wouldn't had been using a hologram (how would he be given the vaccine before the timer ran out if he was hidden somewhere else not there to recieve the vaccine?). He played he fool to sell the con as by that point he had learned from Hershe earlier that it was very likely a fake tactic being used on him to do the job. Plisskin wasn't tricked... he was playing them all from the moment he walked out of the crashed helicopter. BTW... that was the "give away" that it wasn't really Snake walking out of the crashed helicopter (he had obviously already jumped out before it crashed and was already using the hologram). They should have suspected (as should have you guys) when he walked out of a impossible crash without a scratch on him... except again, it was Snake using his fake legendary status to trick others into believe that he could survive such an impossibility. Using it to his advantage again, this being just another exploit he used to beat the odds and turn things in his own favour. THIS IS a major part of Plisskin's character, exploiting his legendary status against those trying to manipulate and kill him. This being a useful weapon for him in his tool kit in this dystopian world, especially among those suffering from the mental effects of the nerve gas on the West Coast and many of whom are now either insane or unstable. 5) "Yes" the fucking surfing scene was fucking stupid. Easily the worst thing in the entire movie, I hate it and it should have been cut from the film. The fire explosion in the back of the helicopter didn't make any sense (I suspect that there was meant to be a glass plate between the front and back seat but they forgot or something) and the hang gliding shit looked dumb and was pointless for the plot and should have been cut. The character of the presidents daughter was terribly done and "Eddie" was a disappointing character overall... they should have tweaked both these characters to make them better. I agree on all these points. I also agree the the "big bad guy" isn't really all that great or interesting. All 3 characters should have undergone more rewrites to improve them into something better and more compelling. But (in my opinion) the basketball scene was fine. Firstly, they can't just throw Plisskin into a gladiator arena as it's already been done in the last movie and secondly (again) Plisskin's legend supercedes him... no matter who and what they put up as a fighter against him, the people in the crowd would still expect him to win regardless because of all the "legendary" stories they have all heard about him. So they needed something they knew he would fail at that was not just shooting or fighting and it needed to be done publicly in front of his subjects so Plisskin's legend would transfer to "the man who killed him". And why would Plisskin know how to lay basketball? It is something that doesn't fit the legends and could (would likely) finally kill him. It isn't perfect of course, ad they probably could have come up with something better. But I still don't think it was as bad as you guys were making is out as being. It was fine. Escape from LA definitely doesn't hold a candle to Escape from New York (obviously). It is the inferior movie. But watching your review, I could help but think that you guys were mocking a lot of things that was not the movie's fault but things that you all missed entirely. As a number of your criticisms and mockeries were you guys missing the point of the scenes (not the surfing one though... that's totally legit. No argument).
I remember waiting to see this in the theater. The original is a classic on the basis of story alone and further justifies it with the performances and filmmaking. The behind-the-scenes features on HBO looked great. And then the movie started and just...... sat there. Like, it feels a lot slower than it looks. And it was a lazier remake than one would have thought possible. People talk about some cheap sequels looking like fan films, and none are more guilty than this one. Kurt Russell and John Carpenter got together to have a few beers and allegedly make a movie
Escape from LA is a hood classic. UPN used to show this all the time in the Summer Freddy’s Dead The Leprechaun movies Def By Temptation Tales From The Hood The People Under The Stairs
Lmao. I remember being so confused when this came out as I had only seen Kurt Russell in more comedic roles as a kid. I hadn't seen The Thing or Escape from New York and thought this was supposed to be a comedy and the campiness didn't help much.
HEY DOUBLE TOASTED CREW, please remember to catch up on the Andrzej Bartkowiak directed movies! You still need to cover "Cradle 2 the Grave (2003)" and "Doom (2005)" Sure, he directed movies after Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li (2009) but that one was his last notable movie, so yeah, we can end it chronologically after the 2009 movie. But we're missing those 2 in between the movies you already did, alright?
I am 54 now and director John Carpenter's Escape from New York (1981) is a classic. However I cannot say the same for this 1996 sequel. They failed miserably just like film critic Gene Siskel once said when he and Roger Ebert review the movie back then on their show from the windy city of Chicago Illinois 🇺🇲
I haven't watched Escape From LA since it came out. Looking at the movie now, it's like John Carpenter was trying to recreate the vibe from Big Trouble in Little China.
Sorry to burst your bubble but that is a perfect description of LA today. "Is ravaged by crime and immorality" describes current year California perfectly.
"This came out in 1996". Man. Not every movie and tv show was Jurassic Park in the 90's. You forget the 90's was also home to the Mortal Kombat movies, Beast Wars, Reboot, and all kinds of cgi slop. Comparing every movie to Jurassic Park would be like asking why every car isn't exactly like a Tesla? It just isn't.
also most of the best effects in JP are a hybrid of CGI and extremely detailed practical effects from the studio that pretty much wrote the book on modern blockbuster minatures. the pure CG stuff like the reveal of the dinos in the meadow looks pretty damn ps1 like by todays standards. That being said Carpenter didnt even TRY to make the efx shots look good in this movie.
He has said that Escape from L.A got made because the studio wanted him to make another movie and he worked the deal so that he could make Escape from L.A. He and Kurt Russell really wanted to do a sequel.
Pretty much 2:54 John is angry 😡 5:57 Got to be honest I love that music 🎵 7:49 It's even better 🎧🔥 8:38 Pretty much Florida 11:44 Oh my that's bad 17:57 Lmao 21:28 The gun is not effective 😭 23:12 More bad effects 24:25 Was that a shark?! 🦈 😭 25:08 Gun is now super effective! 28:00 I don't trust that ☣️ 30:49 Lol that was fast 💀 31:50 So fake 🔥 40:45 Billy lol 50:05 No they didn't just do that 🌊😭 52:02 Can it get any worse? 53:12 John Carpenter is not perfect but wow this movie, it's so over the top I love it! Bruce Campbell and Steve Buscemi are awesome as always Also if anyone doesn't know poor Steve Buscemi got punched recently. 🤕😩
I think that the reason why John Carpenter made Escape from LA was mostly because of in my opinion & RedLetterMedia’s opinion Hollywood was not exactly kind to John Carpenter in terms of studios and this movie was what John Carpenter thought of Hollywood. And also you guys should do a bad movie roast on one of John Carpenter’s other movies called Vampires which is based on a 1990 horror novel by John Steakley. It stars James Woods, Daniel Baldwin, & shockingly Sheryl Lee (aka Laura Palmer from Twin Peaks). A lot of people have said that this movie is a guilty pleasure mostly because of James Woods’ performance. Even though the author did like the movie he has said that the film had a lot of the books’ dialogue and none of his plot. So yeah definitely do a bad movie roast on that movie.
The first thing people forget is that, LA is not a prison. Its a "free state", meaning those deported have lost all rights as a citizen to the United States and have to live there. It has not government structure, no economy, so it would be just living to survive. If they still use money its probably scarce. If anything its in trade or more "liquid" meaning gold and gems. New York on the other hand was a prison. thats why there was no guns food anything. So thats why in this movie they have guns and factions everything.
I never cared about this movie because I found the first one boring. Well acted and great production design, but I never cared about Snake or the stuff happening in New York. So the fact that this movie is bad doesn't really matter to me much.
I honestly thought at the time that there was gonna be like 10 sequels to this. And the were just gonna go to the next sh$&y city. Escape from Miami, escape from Atlanta, escape from Detroit. Lmao. 😂
Escape from Montreal, Escape from Paris, Escape from Hong Kong (the Chinese pandering movie), Escape from Planet Earth, escape from the Milky Way, etc.
This is one of those movies that should’ve been really good and had no excuse to be as ridiculous as it ended up being. I had such high hopes, being someone who loves the original, and writhing the first five or ten minutes of the movie (if that), I pretty much went, “Oh, no. Motherfucker…” It has some great ideas within it and a lot of potential (especially with a lot of it being unnervingly relevant today), but it just wastes them at almost every turn. And I say this as a big fan of John Carpenter-that man has made some of my all time favorite films.
Just had this on last night. "Friday 1900 Hours" I thought yeah, why not? Compared to the first one, it's like a Snake Plissken Saturday Morning Cartoon. I still like that the surf scene was filmed at Schlitterbahn.
You guys should see Stacy Keach’s hair in the horror anthology film, Body Bags (1993). John Carpenter presents each story as a ghoul and directs a couple of the stories.
I like it. Its not at all good in any way, but I have a soft spot for it. I still think its hilarious that the idiot actually thought he was going to talk to Disney and get them to allow him to film the end of the movie using Disneyland as if they were going to give up all the money they make on the park to shut it down to allow a movie like that to be filmed there.
Wasn’t as good as New York but I had some fun with this one. The look Steve buscemi gave him when he sold him and say him riding the wave was 😂😂😂. You’re about to make me watch both today
Starman needs way more love. It was Carpenter making a studio budget friendly 👽 movie after ET sank The Thing as a f*** you to ET but I feel Starman is way deeper & way better written for adults then ET IMO.
YES.....Because no matter how much Faux Noise and NewsHacks viewers fart out the garbage they hear on those propaganda networks. YES Florida is trash and California is nothing even remotely close to what "special" people hear on Tv,Twatter, etc. Unlike Florida, California is the 4th largest economy in the world.
Escape From LA is like a cash grab by Paramount Pictures to make money even bringing back Snake while surfing the waves. As gullible as this premise, it’s not worse than Ghost of Mars. I hating that film since I seen it in 2001.
Ghosts of Mars was supposed to be Escape from Mars, but because of LA's failed success it was renamed and Ice Cube took over the main role (like he did for Vin Diesel in xXx). If you notice, Ice Cube is wearing Snake's outfit in the Mars movie.
I wasn't ready for that lady to get shot like that 😂😂😂
An f out for that woman.😂
Nor was I 💀💀💀💀
That was the highlight of the bad movie roast I fell out the chair dying when Korey showed it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well to be fair it is LA
No matter what the movie, Kurt Russell is always cool as hell as Snake Plisskin, dude reached peak “Clint Eastwood” levels of cool
Ur comment made me smile ❤
Before Solid Snake, Old Snake, Naked Snake, Punished Snake, we got: Snake Plissken
Also Venom Snake Big Bosses Phantom.
MGS 2 had Iroquois Plitskin
OMG Metal Gear!
Snake....Snake!?.....SNAAAAAAAKE!!!
We were there when He was Big Boss.
When Billy laughs at the beginning of the episode you know it’s going to be a good time
And boy did I have a good time 🤣🤣🤣
Billy's "He ain't built for that!" in regards to Stacy Keach's long hair SENT ME. 😂😂😂
Of course, Stacey Keach has had long hair in many other movies.
so, Stacy keach's hair has "..got more too it" is what you said
Carpenter's worst is still Ghosts Of Mars. Escape From LA at least has camp value.
As awful as "Ghost of Mars" is, I used to watch it on cable all the time....like you'd do with a car crash.
Ghosts is so bad it's good
Was it that bad?
Ah the one with ice cube an pam
Grier.😂
They put pam grier head on a stick.😂
Another fun fact: Tony Hawk was Peter Fonda’s Surfing double.
"She could sound like Keith David, eating peanuts...." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😩🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Happy birthday Pam Grier! 🥳🎉🎁❤️🎈🎂
GTAV and MGS4 are PS3 games. Calling what we have in this movie ''PS3 graphics'' is an insult lol. This is the Sega Saturn.
lol
1:33 Crazy 80's Graphics!
2:54 Silly Crap movie!
3:16 Snake is really that You!?
5:57 John FU Italian Style!
7:49 Play That Funky Music Billy Brooks!
8:38 Martin Rock on on the Drums!
11:44 That will Florida right now!
13:30 Robertson was Right!
15:27 Dam That's Harsh!
16:15 Runaways!
17:57 PS3 Effects!
19:24 Snake says She's Terrible actress!
20:30 Snake Stupid!
21:28 Idoits I am Right Here!
22:10 Why you Motherhammers!
22:49 Dum Snake!
23:12 What What's wrong with this Gun!
24:25 Terrible Cartoon Effects!
25:08 😂😂😂
28:00 Snake ain't got the time to deal with A-hole!
30:49 It's a Trap!
31:50 Surprise Chump!
36:08 Bruce Campbell!
37:52 Shot right on The Chest!
38:16 Shut up Steve!
40:45 Blow them Up!💥
43:03 He just got his A Whooping!
44:24 Turned her around that quick!
46:19 Dump SOB Hunchman!
47:14 Billy Brooks Are you Serious look on his face!
48:20 Real Shot!
49:03 Oh Crap best two of three!
50:05 Terrible Surf CGI And Billy Brooks Escape from Laughing!
51:02 Agree Steve!
52:02 Surf's up Dude and Billy is outta here!
53:12 Bad and Badder Effects!
54:55 Told you he was Dump!
56:54 Cold Blooded!
58:27 Gotcha you're asses!
59:27 The World is Shut down!
1:00:00 Welcome to the Human Race!
Escape from LA was John Carpenter trying to replicate the exploration and B movies he loved as a kid and while i still enjoy it as a Guilty Pleasure it’s tries way too much but Bruce Campbell’s cameo is great and generally a creepy scene
You just can'tt replicate that b movie feel with a 50 million dollar budget movie tho. Although with how terrible this movie looks im sure very little of that went to the screen, Carpenter finessed whatever studio put up the money for that.
Carpenter's greatest masterpiece wasn't any of his movies, but nailing prime Adrienne Barbeau.'
Kurt Russell and steve busciemi. It's going to be great🤣
The only things funnier than this roast are the John carpenter commentaries featuring Kurt Russell. The two can’t stop laughing when recalling the films they’ve made
I STILL say DT should do a Retro Movie Review of Big Trouble in Little China. One of my FAVORITE movies from my childhood. ❤
As cheesy as it is, this one has a soft spot in my heart. Released in 96, I was 15 at the time and excited for it's release so I partially view it with rose tented glasses. I loved the updated theme along with the Rob Zombie song. I fondly remember the fade to black at the end while sitting in the theater, Snake's voice coming in with "welcome to the human race" right before the end credits..... and then the guy sitting right in front of me looks at his date and says "that was stupid"
Oh, great. The sequel that is an almost scene for scene remake of the original, but with a 90's flair.
It was hilarious that those idiots actually thought that they were going to have talks with Disney and get them to allow the film to shoot the theme park ending at Disneyland.
This movie is looney tunes compared to the first one
Just like the Republican party. 🤷🏻♂️ So dude’s ‘Trump’ comparison works all the way. 😂
Sigourney Weaver did a similar thing in 'Alien Resurrection' and got a scored a hoop without looking - you can see Ron Perlman spoil the take in the behind the scenes clips because he was so impressed.
It's too bad that we never got the 3rd movie Escape From Chicago.
I think Escape from Earth was supposed to be next.
Escape from Florida sounds much better.
@@flameroad123 Escape from Hollywood
It's been a while since Billy's laughter, Martin's cackle and Korey's giggle has synced up at the same time in the intro.
Love Escape from LA. Saw it in the theater four times. Got it on VHS and then on DVD. Own a copy of the original score. I acknowledge the faults with this flick, and can see how it’d be considered a “bad” movie. But, it’s fine by me. Want to give a shout out to Shirley Walker (R.I.P.). John Carpenter is a synth lord. Walker, however, was able to blend his distinct sound with a more sweeping orchestral score that totally works for the movie. It also works listening to it independent of the movie. Woman was a boss level composer. Once again, R.I.P. Also, just wanted to say, really enjoyed Ghost of Mars too. Best adaptation of Doom the big screen ever got.
I love Pam Grier but aside from a few moments this was a bad movie with awful CGI. After Rain Man Valeria Golino I remember her making the Hot Shots movies with Charlie Sheen and kind of just fading away
Watching that clip of him at the con is actually pretty upsetting, he got genuinely mad there. I really think he was about to cry.
Well here's the thing though. I'd said to his face "f**k him" for making a terrible sequel to a great film. Even the DT crew said as much.
he is not of your sissy man generation, he doesnt cry
So many years seeing this I never knew that the Plastic Surgeon was Bruce Campbell
The helicopter fire was chilling in the back like it was going on a road trip with Snake.
It's like when you have a smoking & non-smoking section in a restaurant and the cigarette smoke just knows not to travel over there.
I feel like Escape from New York should've remind a cult classic movie like Big Trouble In Little China, This was just a cash grab sequel that just redo same plotline from original.
Oh like Megamind vs the doom syndicate Edit: but less insulting.
I don't think you get what the definition of a cash grab is. ALOT of people seem to fart out that word about things that are clearly not cash grabs because they don't really know what they're talking about.
Escape from New York was made in 1981 and was not successful in anyway shape or form. Escape from L.A. was made in 1996 14 years later. A cash grab is made a couple of years after not over a decade later, besides ALL of Carpenter's movies were massive flops except for Halloween.
Halloween II was a cash grab. Halloween was made in 1978 and Halloween II was out 1981.
@@lutherheggs451I mean you can have a cash grab but it's gotta be made competently. Godfather 2 came out two years after the first and the first was a paycheck movie based on a paycheck book
This is a fun bad movie. I like Kurt Russell as Snake Plisken
If Not For The Shoddy CGI, It's A Solid Dystopian Sci-Fi B Movie With Very Relevant Allegories.
1) Firstly, this movie is not set in our world, so the LA depicted in it is not even remotely connected to our LA.
In this parallel universe, in 1988 there was a war against an alliance of China and the Soviet Union. This included a Battle for Leningrad in World War III (which is where Plissken lost his eye). The entire West Coast of the US becomes a no-man's land, and the nation's population is gradually being driven insane by nerve gas that was used on US soil during the events of WW3. None of which happened in our world obviously.
This of course, being the main driving factor for the maximum security prison on Manhattan Island in New York City, a desperate ploy to contain the millions of people who were gradually becoming mentally unstable from the nerve gas attack (and is why in the first movie so many people behave so strangely). Also of course in this alternative reality, the president of the US was attacked by terrorists on Air Force One and captured by a crime gang active in that prison (which also never happened on our Earth). So Escape from LA is a CONTINUATION of the events that happened in Plisskin's universe, including the events of the previous movie obviously. So your continual comments of "LA is not that bad" has nothing to do with the LA of Snake's universe. It's A DIFFERENT WORLD ENTIRELY from ours. That is the point of Plisskin's universe. It isn't ours but a way more fucked up one where things played out very differently in their recent history.
2) The shark is a fake shark which is outside of universal studios that collapsed into the sea (although "yes" the special effect sequence is terrible regardless).
3) The problem with Snake Plisskin (and which is something that the movie addresses several times in throw away lines) is that his "legend" has greatly exceeded the man himself... especially following the population learning about his escape from New York (which was until he did it deemed to be impossible, expanding his already substantial legend even further). These stories have become ridiculous and exagerrated far beyond anything he actually did. They think he is a tall hulking man, impossible to kill, a living legend, a hero, and mass murdering killer etc etc.
But the reality is anything but... he is just a ex-soldier veteran, who just happened to be one of the few who survived World War 3 and with his mind still intact. After fighting in this war and returning to the US Snake is disillusioned by the very country he fought for and by the government who sent him and his friends into the meat grinder, and in his disgust turns mercenary/criminal building up his reputation in the underworld and becoming a symbol of "anti-government" to the people... and who now has attained a legendary status among the population of the US simply for always refusing to lay down and daring to always survive.
So the "henchmen" are not stupid, because they genuinely think that Plisskin could kill them all easily without breaking a sweat, and that they wouldn't have a chance if he chose to shoot them (which of course is not true, they had him at a severe disadvantage and likely would have killed him easily if they had just opened fire). Snake uses this peceived "legend" he has attained to his advantage to gain the upper hand, and the henchmen actually genuine think that Plisskin is being benevolent by "giving them a chance" by not drawing until the can hits the ground... which he exploits to his advantage (like he often does).
4) Snake isn't stupid either. There was no reason whatsoever for him to think they were holograms, and was perfectly fine with dying then and there and killing the president rather than be used as a patsy again like the last time. Also, there was no way for him to know the first clip had fake bullets in it (credit to the bad guys for knowing Snake would kill them and predicting it though).
Near the end, Snake was not fooled either. If he genuinely believed that the virus was real he wouldn't had been using a hologram (how would he be given the vaccine before the timer ran out if he was hidden somewhere else not there to recieve the vaccine?). He played he fool to sell the con as by that point he had learned from Hershe earlier that it was very likely a fake tactic being used on him to do the job. Plisskin wasn't tricked... he was playing them all from the moment he walked out of the crashed helicopter.
BTW... that was the "give away" that it wasn't really Snake walking out of the crashed helicopter (he had obviously already jumped out before it crashed and was already using the hologram). They should have suspected (as should have you guys) when he walked out of a impossible crash without a scratch on him... except again, it was Snake using his fake legendary status to trick others into believe that he could survive such an impossibility. Using it to his advantage again, this being just another exploit he used to beat the odds and turn things in his own favour. THIS IS a major part of Plisskin's character, exploiting his legendary status against those trying to manipulate and kill him. This being a useful weapon for him in his tool kit in this dystopian world, especially among those suffering from the mental effects of the nerve gas on the West Coast and many of whom are now either insane or unstable.
5) "Yes" the fucking surfing scene was fucking stupid. Easily the worst thing in the entire movie, I hate it and it should have been cut from the film. The fire explosion in the back of the helicopter didn't make any sense (I suspect that there was meant to be a glass plate between the front and back seat but they forgot or something) and the hang gliding shit looked dumb and was pointless for the plot and should have been cut. The character of the presidents daughter was terribly done and "Eddie" was a disappointing character overall... they should have tweaked both these characters to make them better. I agree on all these points. I also agree the the "big bad guy" isn't really all that great or interesting. All 3 characters should have undergone more rewrites to improve them into something better and more compelling.
But (in my opinion) the basketball scene was fine. Firstly, they can't just throw Plisskin into a gladiator arena as it's already been done in the last movie and secondly (again) Plisskin's legend supercedes him... no matter who and what they put up as a fighter against him, the people in the crowd would still expect him to win regardless because of all the "legendary" stories they have all heard about him. So they needed something they knew he would fail at that was not just shooting or fighting and it needed to be done publicly in front of his subjects so Plisskin's legend would transfer to "the man who killed him". And why would Plisskin know how to lay basketball? It is something that doesn't fit the legends and could (would likely) finally kill him.
It isn't perfect of course, ad they probably could have come up with something better. But I still don't think it was as bad as you guys were making is out as being. It was fine.
Escape from LA definitely doesn't hold a candle to Escape from New York (obviously). It is the inferior movie. But watching your review, I could help but think that you guys were mocking a lot of things that was not the movie's fault but things that you all missed entirely. As a number of your criticisms and mockeries were you guys missing the point of the scenes (not the surfing one though... that's totally legit. No argument).
Yessir, I still watch Escape From New York. Extremely dark, love Kurt and Isaac.
I remember waiting to see this in the theater. The original is a classic on the basis of story alone and further justifies it with the performances and filmmaking. The behind-the-scenes features on HBO looked great. And then the movie started and just...... sat there. Like, it feels a lot slower than it looks. And it was a lazier remake than one would have thought possible. People talk about some cheap sequels looking like fan films, and none are more guilty than this one. Kurt Russell and John Carpenter got together to have a few beers and allegedly make a movie
As silly as this movie is it still has one of the best and most bad-ass endings ever!
Escape from LA is a hood classic.
UPN used to show this all the time in the Summer
Freddy’s Dead
The Leprechaun movies
Def By Temptation
Tales From The Hood
The People Under The Stairs
Man!!!! The good ol days! UPN had horror Sundays. They use to play all kinds of horror movies
Lmao. I remember being so confused when this came out as I had only seen Kurt Russell in more comedic roles as a kid. I hadn't seen The Thing or Escape from New York and thought this was supposed to be a comedy and the campiness didn't help much.
its not a comedy?
I’ll agree with everything you guys said EXCEPT.. the new theme song is absolutely better
I concur.
James Bond kinda stopped Goldfinger when he played golf but it definitely paid off 🤣
Oh man another classic! I still get creeped out by the Beverly Hills plastic surgery people
This explains why we never got a
Part 3.😂
There was no PS3 in the 90's.🤣
There was barely a PS1
HEY DOUBLE TOASTED CREW, please remember to catch up on the Andrzej Bartkowiak directed movies! You still need to cover "Cradle 2 the Grave (2003)" and "Doom (2005)"
Sure, he directed movies after Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li (2009) but that one was his last notable movie, so yeah, we can end it chronologically after the 2009 movie.
But we're missing those 2 in between the movies you already did, alright?
I am 54 now and director John Carpenter's Escape from New York (1981) is a classic. However I cannot say the same for this 1996 sequel. They failed miserably just like film critic Gene Siskel once said when he and Roger Ebert review the movie back then on their show from the windy city of Chicago Illinois 🇺🇲
I haven't watched Escape From LA since it came out. Looking at the movie now, it's like John Carpenter was trying to recreate the vibe from Big Trouble in Little China.
Definitely. It's kind of the Gremlins 2 to the first movie's Gremlins. It's an over the top and satirical kitchen-sink style action romp.
Crime is worse in LA than in Florida
Sorry to burst your bubble but that is a perfect description of LA today. "Is ravaged by crime and immorality" describes current year California perfectly.
Disney going downhill is also something the movie prophetically got right
"This came out in 1996". Man. Not every movie and tv show was Jurassic Park in the 90's. You forget the 90's was also home to the Mortal Kombat movies, Beast Wars, Reboot, and all kinds of cgi slop. Comparing every movie to Jurassic Park would be like asking why every car isn't exactly like a Tesla? It just isn't.
also most of the best effects in JP are a hybrid of CGI and extremely detailed practical effects from the studio that pretty much wrote the book on modern blockbuster minatures. the pure CG stuff like the reveal of the dinos in the meadow looks pretty damn ps1 like by todays standards. That being said Carpenter didnt even TRY to make the efx shots look good in this movie.
There's actually a whole story too about how they got fucked over by the CG artists over-promising shit too
Tesla are the worst cars though.
I feel like I heard somewhere that Carpenter made the movie the way it was on purpose because he hated the idea of sequels or something...
He has said that Escape from L.A got made because the studio wanted him to make another movie and he worked the deal so that he could make Escape from L.A. He and Kurt Russell really wanted to do a sequel.
Billy nearly walking out after that surfing scene had me losing it. He was in DISBELIEF. 😂
I love Escape From La and even Ghosts of Mars. John Carpenter has some underrated films.
Pretty much 2:54
John is angry 😡 5:57
Got to be honest I love that music 🎵 7:49
It's even better 🎧🔥 8:38
Pretty much Florida 11:44
Oh my that's bad 17:57
Lmao 21:28
The gun is not effective 😭 23:12
More bad effects 24:25
Was that a shark?! 🦈 😭 25:08
Gun is now super effective! 28:00
I don't trust that ☣️ 30:49
Lol that was fast 💀 31:50
So fake 🔥 40:45
Billy lol 50:05
No they didn't just do that 🌊😭 52:02
Can it get any worse? 53:12
John Carpenter is not perfect but wow this movie, it's so over the top I love it!
Bruce Campbell and Steve Buscemi are awesome as always
Also if anyone doesn't know poor Steve Buscemi got punched recently. 🤕😩
I think that the reason why John Carpenter made Escape from LA was mostly because of in my opinion & RedLetterMedia’s opinion Hollywood was not exactly kind to John Carpenter in terms of studios and this movie was what John Carpenter thought of Hollywood. And also you guys should do a bad movie roast on one of John Carpenter’s other movies called Vampires which is based on a 1990 horror novel by John Steakley. It stars James Woods, Daniel Baldwin, & shockingly Sheryl Lee (aka Laura Palmer from Twin Peaks). A lot of people have said that this movie is a guilty pleasure mostly because of James Woods’ performance. Even though the author did like the movie he has said that the film had a lot of the books’ dialogue and none of his plot. So yeah definitely do a bad movie roast on that movie.
The first thing people forget is that, LA is not a prison. Its a "free state", meaning those deported have lost all rights as a citizen to the United States and have to live there. It has not government structure, no economy, so it would be just living to survive. If they still use money its probably scarce. If anything its in trade or more "liquid" meaning gold and gems. New York on the other hand was a prison. thats why there was no guns food anything. So thats why in this movie they have guns and factions everything.
I never cared about this movie because I found the first one boring. Well acted and great production design, but I never cared about Snake or the stuff happening in New York. So the fact that this movie is bad doesn't really matter to me much.
I honestly thought at the time that there was gonna be like 10 sequels to this. And the were just gonna go to the next sh$&y city. Escape from Miami, escape from Atlanta, escape from Detroit. Lmao. 😂
Escape from Montreal, Escape from Paris, Escape from Hong Kong (the Chinese pandering movie), Escape from Planet Earth, escape from the Milky Way, etc.
Take him to Detroit.
@@NYOlly15escape from Toronto, escape from Seattle, escape from Texas, escape from Brazil, escape from France
Escape From A Black Hole
@@kalkhalinzhui1753”NOOO! NO NOT DETROIT PLEASE! ANYTHING BUT THAT! NOOO..”
Chairman of the board had a more convincing surf scene
California is starting to look exactly like this movie
Whenever i think of Escape From L.A.,I think of that cgi surfboard scene.
This is one of those movies that should’ve been really good and had no excuse to be as ridiculous as it ended up being. I had such high hopes, being someone who loves the original, and writhing the first five or ten minutes of the movie (if that), I pretty much went, “Oh, no. Motherfucker…” It has some great ideas within it and a lot of potential (especially with a lot of it being unnervingly relevant today), but it just wastes them at almost every turn. And I say this as a big fan of John Carpenter-that man has made some of my all time favorite films.
I think that basketball scene in the film is because John Carpenter is a big hoops fan.
I didn't Martin went the same high school as Michelle Forbes.
🎉The original escspe from ny took place in 1996. This came out in 1997. Close
This used to be my movie!! I forgot how randoma some scenes. The opening scen.😫🤣😭😭DT too funny yo!!! The Florida reference 🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭
Just had this on last night. "Friday 1900 Hours" I thought yeah, why not?
Compared to the first one, it's like a Snake Plissken Saturday Morning Cartoon.
I still like that the surf scene was filmed at Schlitterbahn.
The surfing scene was the straw that broke the camels back
Lol hell naw the theme for L.A was top tier...it needed to evolve being a 90s and it worked. I still get chills hearing the intro credits
I prefer the original film, but I do like the reworked EFLA theme very much.
You guys should see Stacy Keach’s hair in the horror anthology film, Body Bags (1993). John Carpenter presents each story as a ghoul and directs a couple of the stories.
@0:26 😂😂😂
Tonal whiplash!
I like this movie, campy as fuck but I like it
I like it. Its not at all good in any way, but I have a soft spot for it. I still think its hilarious that the idiot actually thought he was going to talk to Disney and get them to allow him to film the end of the movie using Disneyland as if they were going to give up all the money they make on the park to shut it down to allow a movie like that to be filmed there.
0:26 i was not prepared for that🤣🤣
Snake? Snake!? Snaaaaaaaake!!
I absolutely loved this movie when I was a kid, I saw this before New York.
That's interesting-
Having seen the sequel first, did you like the original more or less than Escape From New York?
Just wondering.
@ 31:47 Yoooo 😲🤕
& there goes Billy with that LAUGH
🤣🤣🤣🤣
50:45 now I want a Bad movie roast of Spy kids 3D game over. Now that the meme about the daily Dinkster is gone.
"Did somebody ring the Dinkster?"
Wasn’t as good as New York but I had some fun with this one. The look Steve buscemi gave him when he sold him and say him riding the wave was 😂😂😂. You’re about to make me watch both today
Every Saturday. I look forward to the DT Bad Movie Roasts 😂😂
The Ward with Amber Heard is the worst Carpenter movie. He kinda ripped off Shutter Island's twist.
They wouldn't even need to make Florida seem like a hostile police state!😅
Escape From Sarasota?
I hate when people make fun of special effects in older movies. They’re old.
T2 was old as hell but they still hold up. Same with robocop
“10 seconds down” by sugar Ray is always a good banger but can’t remember if that was in original or sequel
Starman needs way more love. It was Carpenter making a studio budget friendly 👽 movie after ET sank The Thing as a f*** you to ET but I feel Starman is way deeper & way better written for adults then ET IMO.
Misunderstood sequel. Razorfist said it best with his review.
Bond didn't play basketball but he did play a video game in Never Say Never Again.
Most people's problem with the movie is that it is EXACTLY Escape from New York, but in L.A. There were next to zero differences in the premise.
Just started the video, but I already know, I'm gonna' *LOVE* this review!
Gotta love these guys
27:54 That skinhead is Robert Carradine (Revenge of the Nerds... Brother of David Carradine, son of John Carradine).
I love these bad movie reviews so much
Kurt n Sigourney are the hoopin' dream team!
16:26 that kid on Trading Spouses all like "bacon is good for me!"
You guys should review Showdown In Little Tokyo, with Dolph Lundgren and Brandon Lee. That shit is ridiculous.
I know its not a good movie bit ill be a escape from LA apologist cuz it's a goofy action movie from my childhood and I loved every second
"We know today that's Florida".... Korey can't be serious, can he?
YES.....Because no matter how much Faux Noise and NewsHacks viewers fart out the garbage they hear on those propaganda networks. YES Florida is trash and California is nothing even remotely close to what "special" people hear on Tv,Twatter, etc. Unlike Florida, California is the 4th largest economy in the world.
This is the Home Alone of sequels. It's exactly the same as the original only the setting is different. Just like Home Alone 2, Hangover 2, etc
It ain’t great, but I do enjoy this one.
Yoooo I loooooove this movie. It is so over the top but so fun! I never even saw Escape from Newyork lol but escape from LA was amazing.
@juansanchez209 Never SAW Escape from NY in the theaters but LA, me & my friends were LOAF
😂😂😂😂
A BAD But GOOD Popcorn Flick
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@@mrkoolbreeze6998 LOL Awesome! 😁
Always have to fast forward through their "informed" political commentary.
Very well informed I might add. Trump was a terrorist who encouraged people to storm the capitol. You can't twist that.
It's one of those guilty pleasures for me, it's bad but it's also hilarious lol.
Y'all have to review John Carpenter's Ghost of Mars. Its so bad, it's good 😂😂
NY & LA, I Enjoyed BOTH Films. 👍👍
Agree To Disagree Korey 🤔😜
BOTH are Bad but Good Movies 😂😂
Billy getting up & walking off took me out!😂
Escape From LA is like a cash grab by Paramount Pictures to make money even bringing back Snake while surfing the waves. As gullible as this premise, it’s not worse than Ghost of Mars. I hating that film since I seen it in 2001.
Have they done Triple X State of the Union? If you wanna talk about bad effects that’s the standard bearer right there.
Ghosts of Mars was supposed to be Escape from Mars, but because of LA's failed success it was renamed and Ice Cube took over the main role (like he did for Vin Diesel in xXx). If you notice, Ice Cube is wearing Snake's outfit in the Mars movie.
I agree...the theme song from the original is iconic and wonderful!