I have both of these shoes and they consumed most of my miles this fall and winter. The NB3 was my daily trainer and mile eater. The Speed3 was my tempo/speed day shoe. Great one two punch.
Great comparison, I have both also and feel that the Novablast 3 TR is great for fall and winter training into the spring, with it slightly better grip. With that said the when I’m getting ready for my run and know I’ll be doing mixed efforts easy w/some tempo mixed in I find the NB-3 is a better all around. Sacouny Speed is reserved for faster workouts with dry roads.
I have wide feet. Had been searching for ages (without success) for a speedier shoe that accommodates a wider foot - the Speed 3 has solved that issue (even though not available in a 2e). Thought worth mentioning in case anyone reading is in a similar position
Love this comparison, these are my 2 current road shoes. I am aligned with your thoughts on both! The ES3 is more nimble and the upper fits my feet a bit better (esp in length). The NB3 is a bit long in length. Both shoes for me have gotten better the more miles I've put on them. I naturally run a quicker pace in the ES3.
Got the TR version at usd 105. Just get the TR version and call it a day. Don't worry about the wet grip / longevity of the outsole with the TR. Speed 3 for those who wants a faster shoe.
Thanks for the great conparison Andy!! Iam using Novablast 3 the same way you are. I prefer to put them in my moderate training like I did in my Novablast v1 (the best Novablast in my opinion). As speed 3, Iam not sure if, having Novablast 3, they would be useful in my training block, however they must be amazing daily trainer shoes. Greetings from Brazil!
Good unbiased review Andy... I've got the speed 1 and NB3's and agree with everything you've said... however just imagine the NB3 with a nylon plate .....I think it would knock the speed out of the park👍🏃♂️
The Novablast 3 is a beast! I've made my halfmarathon PR in that shoe and I ran a 20min 5k in it too! I don't care much for the speed, the rockered sole feels uncomfortable and unnatural to me.
Great comparison, Andy. For a couple years now I've felt the Endorphin Speed is the most versatile shoe out there. I've used it for pretty much every type of run under the sun. When I got my first pair I was thinking workouts and long runs, but I was pleasantly surprised how much I liked them during easy and recovery days as well. And for those who don't want to fork over the money for a carbon plated shoe to race in, the Speed is a great option for racing as well. That being said, the Novablast is my go-to long run shoe. It's so comfortable and smooth with my running gait, a gem of a shoe for sure. If you have the means to afford both, they're my top 2 shoe recommendations.
Owned both Speed V1 and Speed V3. Saucony definitely created a true break between the Pro 3 and Speed 3. The Speed 3 plate really only provides lateral stability, and perhaps some rocker assistance. Still a great shoe, but no longer has the top end that the Speed 1 did, for me. The one major problem I have with the Speed 3 is the hardness of the heel pocket and potentially a smaller left foot. If I wear it on longer runs (20+ KM) I will get a blister on my left heel, which I can solve with a piece of KT tape, or bandaid, but it's annoying. So I now use it for middle distance HMP/MP interval days where I am putting in 10-15KM worth of work. If I have to go faster (Takumi Sen8) or longer (Tempo Next%). Like you, I have a decent stable of shoes for particular use cases. As mentioned by a few other people, these comparison videos have huge value, keep it up!
I also have issues with the top of the left heel counter rubbing me. I seem to not have it at quicker paces as much but have a similar experience as you. I have not had the issue as much lately and I think it could be due to only using the shoe for quicker paces.
@@saramims1592 It's really odd. I have worn ALOT of different shoes and I did experience it to a lesser extent in the Speed 1, where I wore a hole inside the heel counter after 550km. I've just chalked it up to something with the Speed shoe last that my left foot doesn't agree with. Annoying, but manageable for such a great shoe.
Big fan of this format Andy - it really contextualises the shoes you are reviewing which means we can make a more informed opinion when buying. I use NB 1080v11 as my everyday shoe and was thinking of replacing them with Novablast v3 if/when my current pair pack it in.
I have both. TR version of the NB. Probably the most comfortable shoe I've run it. I found that the speed 3 is closer to the Pro 3 than it is to the speed 2. The speed3 feels identical at tempo pace to the pro 3, it's only when you go to race speed you can feel the difference with that carbon plated pop.
😁i like the sliding scale, you incorporated into the videos. It suits my visual working brain. At the moment, there still is some inconsistency, which side the faster paces are. If i may make a suggestion, keep it in the way of this video, where your left hand was the side of the faster paces🤣( different from last video) i am all for the format of compare/contrast👍
in another words, Novablast get faster and the Endorphin Speed get slower in their 3rd version which made them closer to each other. I own both them and love both.
"I have actually done an easy shoe in this run" 😆Nice to give us a little smile there Andy!! You probably know that Kieran from Manvmiles ran the entire length of the Danube last summer, starting in the Speed 2 then he ran through 2 pairs of the Speed 3… quite a testament !! Thanks for another comparison, kinda miss them!! 🙋🏻♀️🙋🏻♀️
Happy New Year Andy! Very interesting to even see these shoes being compared. I found the NovaBlast 2 to be a mushy pillow with no ability to move fast! Now I have hope for the NB3! But you know I love everything about the Endorphin line! Keep pushing my friend!
For me the speed is an all round better shoe but the NB3 is very close to it. When clocking up the miles it's better to have a shoe without a plate in. So I think the NB3 wins because u can get a better plated shoe than the speed. Can't get a better non plated recovery shoe than the NB
Great review! I have my first half marathon around 2h with Novablast 3 TR, such great balanced shoes! I'll keep using it as a daily/slow-run trainer. At the same time, I'm looking for new racing shoes for my future half marathon and my ultimate goal is sub 1:30-1:45. Should I buy Saucony Endorphin pro 3 or speed 3 will be enough for this goal?
I bought the Speed 3 shoes for Christmas. I had to send them back. The winged plate pulled into my instep. I wish they did not turn the plate up at the sides
Last video: Do we need all these shoes? This video: when you want to go a little slower, get the Novablast. When you want to go a little faster, get the Speed. Plus, I’m using a different shoe for easy days. And a different shoe to work on my cadence. And obviously, a different shoe for racing. So I guess we DO need all these shoes! (I know I do 😊)
Hey Andy, great comparison video. Which would you say has the best traction in wet weather? I was also wondering if you might compare the endorphin pro 3 to the adios pro 3?
One option would be the Novablast 3 TR it has a bit more aggressive outsole, but not too much that interferes with its ride. I’m currently using the TR version for light trails, with that said both shoes are great. I just prefer the TR during winter or rainy wet days. Hope you have a great day…
Novablast 3 is terrible on the wet surface. Speed 3 is much better in the wet. But Asics has the Novablast 3 TR which is a better choice for wet weather.
Thanks Sam! Yes the comment below is a good one, I think the TR version of the novablast is the winner, but out for these two, the speed is better, novablast is a bit dicey in the wet 🫣
Love the Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 just finished a hill sprint session in them and they were flying.. I will be doing easy days and long runs in them as well. Amazing shoe
On sizing for both shoes, how much room do you leave at the end of the toe? I’m wearing a full size up from true measured foot size and have a thumbnail and a half extra room at the front of the shoe, but the sides are snug. Does this affect the push off and the sweet spot of the shoe? Im wondering if I need to go a half size down and deal with my outer foot and pinky toes jamming.
My issue with the Novablast 3 is that when running my feet slap the ground fast.. I had this also with the Vomero.. Like slapping your foot every step? I am a heel striker so probably the transition from the heel to the forefoot in to fast?
Never seen these shoes on discount in Canada yet :(. Novablast 3 just become available in Canada less than 2 months ago. Which one has a wider toe box?
I have both. Very similar in use but very different in feel. I find the Speed 3 excellent for my long runs being less bouncy and firm.. Speed 3 much softer and better energy return but the softness is annoying when I begin to slow down at the end of the long run. So for Tempo runs Speed 2 and 3 are amazing. Long runs Novablast 3 and Triumph 20. Both Novablast 3 and Speed 3 excellent for wide feet.
Hey i also have the speed 3 i like it a lot. Is the Triumph more leg gently? I normaly run around 4,15-4,45min/km? How much slower do you think is the Triumph 20vs the Speed 3?
@@woidmoasta4673 Triumph 20 not much slower in time but feels much slower running.. I find the Speed 3 unstable at slow speed being a heel striker. Triumph 20 is heavier so it will get you tired faster but its more comfortable running slowly in the Triumph 20. In the Triumph 20 less bounce and less feeling of the rocker doing the work for you.
Speed 3 all day. Better upper and fit, more bouncy and snappy midsole yet stable. Can use from easy to race day which same can't be said for Novablast 3.
I might be the only one saying this but the Novas (3) give me sheen splints when i try some speed in them..the tongue is the devil for me..i feel like something is missing where my curve of the foot is, which should have supported me..
@@TheFODRunner minimal wear, they just feel nothing like the first 100 miles. Most disappointing shoe of 2022 for me. Won’t get sucked into the hype again.
I have both of these shoes and they consumed most of my miles this fall and winter. The NB3 was my daily trainer and mile eater. The Speed3 was my tempo/speed day shoe. Great one two punch.
I like that… “great one two punch” 👍
Great comparison, I have both also and feel that the Novablast 3 TR is great for fall and winter training into the spring, with it slightly better grip. With that said the when I’m getting ready for my run and know I’ll be doing mixed efforts easy w/some tempo mixed in I find the NB-3 is a better all around. Sacouny Speed is reserved for faster workouts with dry roads.
Nice! Yes the TR is probably better for grip on these wetter months and everyone I speak too says they prefer the TR version
I have wide feet. Had been searching for ages (without success) for a speedier shoe that accommodates a wider foot - the Speed 3 has solved that issue (even though not available in a 2e). Thought worth mentioning in case anyone reading is in a similar position
Thanks I’m in the same boat have sent so many shoes back because they were too tight 😮
@@martinmitchell7183 Ha yes I am also a serial returner of shoes for this reason!
Yes one of the first things I noticed with the 3 was the additional width 👍
Do you live in the us
Me? No I’m UK
Love this comparison, these are my 2 current road shoes. I am aligned with your thoughts on both! The ES3 is more nimble and the upper fits my feet a bit better (esp in length). The NB3 is a bit long in length. Both shoes for me have gotten better the more miles I've put on them. I naturally run a quicker pace in the ES3.
Awesome thanks for letting me know Sara, glad they’re both working for you!!
Got the TR version at usd 105. Just get the TR version and call it a day. Don't worry about the wet grip / longevity of the outsole with the TR. Speed 3 for those who wants a faster shoe.
Fantastic price for the TR version 👏
Thanks for the great conparison Andy!! Iam using Novablast 3 the same way you are. I prefer to put them in my moderate training like I did in my Novablast v1 (the best Novablast in my opinion). As speed 3, Iam not sure if, having Novablast 3, they would be useful in my training block, however they must be amazing daily trainer shoes. Greetings from Brazil!
Thanks! They do cross over a lot so if you’re happy with the novablast 3 then you’re fine 👍
Good unbiased review Andy... I've got the speed 1 and NB3's and agree with everything you've said... however just imagine the NB3 with a nylon plate .....I think it would knock the speed out of the park👍🏃♂️
I agree, would be wonderful to see!
The Novablast 3 is a beast! I've made my halfmarathon PR in that shoe and I ran a 20min 5k in it too! I don't care much for the speed, the rockered sole feels uncomfortable and unnatural to me.
Ah fantastic well done!
Great comparison, Andy. For a couple years now I've felt the Endorphin Speed is the most versatile shoe out there. I've used it for pretty much every type of run under the sun. When I got my first pair I was thinking workouts and long runs, but I was pleasantly surprised how much I liked them during easy and recovery days as well. And for those who don't want to fork over the money for a carbon plated shoe to race in, the Speed is a great option for racing as well. That being said, the Novablast is my go-to long run shoe. It's so comfortable and smooth with my running gait, a gem of a shoe for sure. If you have the means to afford both, they're my top 2 shoe recommendations.
Sounds like you’ve got them working well together in your rotation! I do agree, the speeds versatility is fantastic!
Owned both Speed V1 and Speed V3. Saucony definitely created a true break between the Pro 3 and Speed 3. The Speed 3 plate really only provides lateral stability, and perhaps some rocker assistance. Still a great shoe, but no longer has the top end that the Speed 1 did, for me. The one major problem I have with the Speed 3 is the hardness of the heel pocket and potentially a smaller left foot. If I wear it on longer runs (20+ KM) I will get a blister on my left heel, which I can solve with a piece of KT tape, or bandaid, but it's annoying. So I now use it for middle distance HMP/MP interval days where I am putting in 10-15KM worth of work. If I have to go faster (Takumi Sen8) or longer (Tempo Next%). Like you, I have a decent stable of shoes for particular use cases.
As mentioned by a few other people, these comparison videos have huge value, keep it up!
I also have issues with the top of the left heel counter rubbing me. I seem to not have it at quicker paces as much but have a similar experience as you. I have not had the issue as much lately and I think it could be due to only using the shoe for quicker paces.
@@saramims1592 It's really odd. I have worn ALOT of different shoes and I did experience it to a lesser extent in the Speed 1, where I wore a hole inside the heel counter after 550km. I've just chalked it up to something with the Speed shoe last that my left foot doesn't agree with. Annoying, but manageable for such a great shoe.
Big fan of this format Andy - it really contextualises the shoes you are reviewing which means we can make a more informed opinion when buying. I use NB 1080v11 as my everyday shoe and was thinking of replacing them with Novablast v3 if/when my current pair pack it in.
Thank you 🙏 I used to make these videos all the time, I love it but for some reason I totally stopped and I still have no idea why 😂
I have both. TR version of the NB. Probably the most comfortable shoe I've run it. I found that the speed 3 is closer to the Pro 3 than it is to the speed 2. The speed3 feels identical at tempo pace to the pro 3, it's only when you go to race speed you can feel the difference with that carbon plated pop.
Yeah a lot of people prefer the TR version of the novablast!
@@TheFODRunner Tr version more comfortable than the base version ?
@@iboudekak94 same comfort apparently, just better grip!
Found the Novablast 3 at John Lewis for £67.50 in January sales. Worth checking out in store as weren’t online. Thanks for the video
Wow!
Colorway really is the BEST PRO for the Novablast 🤣😅
The price difference between these 2 shoes is quite wide.
Where abouts are you based? UK? As both have been on sale this last month for under £100
😁i like the sliding scale, you incorporated into the videos. It suits my visual working brain. At the moment, there still is some inconsistency, which side the faster paces are. If i may make a suggestion, keep it in the way of this video, where your left hand was the side of the faster paces🤣( different from last video)
i am all for the format of compare/contrast👍
Ok will do! What I should do really, is create a graphic…. rather than use my hands haha
in another words, Novablast get faster and the Endorphin Speed get slower in their 3rd version which made them closer to each other. I own both them and love both.
"I have actually done an easy shoe in this run" 😆Nice to give us a little smile there Andy!! You probably know that Kieran from Manvmiles ran the entire length of the Danube last summer, starting in the Speed 2 then he ran through 2 pairs of the Speed 3… quite a testament !! Thanks for another comparison, kinda miss them!! 🙋🏻♀️🙋🏻♀️
Thanks Bev! I’d heard he had done than but wasn’t aware of the shoes!
Happy New Year Andy! Very interesting to even see these shoes being compared. I found the NovaBlast 2 to be a mushy pillow with no ability to move fast! Now I have hope for the NB3! But you know I love everything about the Endorphin line! Keep pushing my friend!
Happy new year buddy! Great to hear your thoughts! Wishing you the best 2023 👍
For me the speed is an all round better shoe but the NB3 is very close to it. When clocking up the miles it's better to have a shoe without a plate in. So I think the NB3 wins because u can get a better plated shoe than the speed. Can't get a better non plated recovery shoe than the NB
Great review! I have my first half marathon around 2h with Novablast 3 TR, such great balanced shoes! I'll keep using it as a daily/slow-run trainer. At the same time, I'm looking for new racing shoes for my future half marathon and my ultimate goal is sub 1:30-1:45. Should I buy Saucony Endorphin pro 3 or speed 3 will be enough for this goal?
I would alway say the pro, that’s just because I prefer them for faster work, they’re snappier and make you feel faster!
I bought the Speed 3 shoes for Christmas. I had to send them back. The winged plate pulled into my instep. I wish they did not turn the plate up at the sides
Ah gutted!!
Last video: Do we need all these shoes?
This video: when you want to go a little slower, get the Novablast. When you want to go a little faster, get the Speed.
Plus, I’m using a different shoe for easy days. And a different shoe to work on my cadence. And obviously, a different shoe for racing.
So I guess we DO need all these shoes! (I know I do 😊)
Last video was a debate video to get peoples opinions, this video shows my stance 🤫😉
Hey Andy, great comparison video. Which would you say has the best traction in wet weather? I was also wondering if you might compare the endorphin pro 3 to the adios pro 3?
One option would be the Novablast 3 TR it has a bit more aggressive outsole, but not too much that interferes with its ride. I’m currently using the TR version for light trails, with that said both shoes are great. I just prefer the TR during winter or rainy wet days. Hope you have a great day…
Novablast 3 is terrible on the wet surface. Speed 3 is much better in the wet. But Asics has the Novablast 3 TR which is a better choice for wet weather.
Thanks Sam! Yes the comment below is a good one, I think the TR version of the novablast is the winner, but out for these two, the speed is better, novablast is a bit dicey in the wet 🫣
hey! quick question, can we use Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 to our easy days? recovery pace or a long easy run? thanks man
Love the Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 just finished a hill sprint session in them and they were flying.. I will be doing easy days and long runs in them as well. Amazing shoe
Great aren’t they buddy!
Hi sir! I wear NB3 in size UK8.5 so for Speed 3 what size should i pick ya? Pls help. Thanks!!
On sizing for both shoes, how much room do you leave at the end of the toe? I’m wearing a full size up from true measured foot size and have a thumbnail and a half extra room at the front of the shoe, but the sides are snug. Does this affect the push off and the sweet spot of the shoe? Im wondering if I need to go a half size down and deal with my outer foot and pinky toes jamming.
I usually have just a thumb width, that’s comfortable enough for me and that works well! I find a thumb width and a half a bit too much….
My issue with the Novablast 3 is that when running my feet slap the ground fast.. I had this also with the Vomero.. Like slapping your foot every step? I am a heel striker so probably the transition from the heel to the forefoot in to fast?
The novablast and vomero are very slappy shoes, I don’t think that’s just you, I found it too!
Never seen these shoes on discount in Canada yet :(. Novablast 3 just become available in Canada less than 2 months ago. Which one has a wider toe box?
Ah no! That’s a shame! They’re both quite wide, maybe the speed just edges it!
@@TheFODRunner Thanks
Can these Nova be used as a daily walking around shoe or just running?
I don’t see why not! They’re super comfy!!
hey, is it ok if I have both of these?
Absolutely!
Just by the laces are cinched, I’d say the asics fits you better. Is that accurate?
Correct! The speed 3 is wiiiiiiiide, and I have wide feet!
I have both. Very similar in use but very different in feel. I find the Speed 3 excellent for my long runs being less bouncy and firm.. Speed 3 much softer and better energy return but the softness is annoying when I begin to slow down at the end of the long run. So for Tempo runs Speed 2 and 3 are amazing. Long runs Novablast 3 and Triumph 20. Both Novablast 3 and Speed 3 excellent for wide feet.
Hey i also have the speed 3 i like it a lot.
Is the Triumph more leg gently?
I normaly run around 4,15-4,45min/km?
How much slower do you think is the Triumph 20vs the Speed 3?
@@woidmoasta4673 Triumph 20 not much slower in time but feels much slower running.. I find the Speed 3 unstable at slow speed being a heel striker. Triumph 20 is heavier so it will get you tired faster but its more comfortable running slowly in the Triumph 20. In the Triumph 20 less bounce and less feeling of the rocker doing the work for you.
Ok thx im more a midfoot striker hmm...
It’s great to hear you’ve got them both working well on your rotation!
Novablast 3 feels like barefoot compared to speed 3.
Speed 3 all day. Better upper and fit, more bouncy and snappy midsole yet stable. Can use from easy to race day which same can't be said for Novablast 3.
I knew you’d say that haha
i think speed is better shoe but in Sweden where i live the price difference is big
Speed is much more expensive?
@@TheFODRunner yes it costs around 200 dollars euro and nova around 150
@@TheFODRunner And it's easier to find good offers for nova
I might be the only one saying this but the Novas (3) give me sheen splints when i try some speed in them..the tongue is the devil for me..i feel like something is missing where my curve of the foot is, which should have supported me..
Novablast 3 to big for speed work. Speed 2 and 3 much better for it.
Oh wow, that’s not good! I guess not every shoe works for everyone!
@@TheFODRunner Absolutely right, I'm a big fan of the Gliderides... Should have bought the V3 instead of these..
Easy shoe in this run
Speed 2/3 all day long my novablast 3 completely and utterly dead at 190 miles, zero return.
No way? That’s worn out fast!
@@TheFODRunner minimal wear, they just feel nothing like the first 100 miles. Most disappointing shoe of 2022 for me. Won’t get sucked into the hype again.
That’s totally fair enough, I think I’d feel the same if mine went flat at that stage!
Like for Andy. Interesting comparison. My vote goes to Saucony Endorphin Speed 3. A nice Friday for everyone.🌤️🏃🌞