I'm just like Kronii, too, due to family issues I never managed to go to college so working doing regular jobs to help keep the family afloat. At my 30's me being a Dishwasher thinking how my life went so south... a co-worker knew I was good at art and drawing was like "hey you know in my public college there's a 3D program for Animators you should give it a try" Me in my mid 30's was like "should I? Am I worthy?" I realize I was an adult already so I took the program, failed the first attempt, tried again and made it the second time around, I graduated, I worked in some Hollywood films and Netflix shows as an Animator, life was finally getting better now in my 40's finally I was living a decent life for once with a career and things getting together, late but it was going well, then A.I. came along, thousands of Animators including me lost our jobs and I'm back doing regular jobs and trying to push my youtube channel. So I do get the doomer mentality Kronii has. 😅
…..life really did you dirty, I ain’t talking like kicking a man while he’s down type dirty. I’m talking you climbed a steep hill only to get the Sisyphus treatment and sent right back down. I just hope you can find the strength to get back up again.
I rarely had friends in any of my classes. We'd talk in class, maybe get together outside to work on something, but that was about it. Well, there was one exception, I asked one of the rare girls in my major out in one of my classes in my last semester whom I eventually got married to for 6 years; we had several classes prior so knew each other. The people I became friends with were mainly people I met in various campus clubs/organizations; it helps when you share a common interest.
well done Kronie! To me I'm still struggling to get "friends" cus most of the kids my generation care about things wildly different from my own. I'm a hardcore souls fan and love talking about the lore, I also like shows and stories that are very dark like Berserk or Invincible. But my generation likes tiktok, insta, moba games, gacha games, and sports :(
Nah, different people different experience, the only thing you can generalize is that the older you're the harder it is to make friends, for a lot of reasons.
Time and energy, mostly. I work 60-65 hours a week for most of the year and going out and doing stuff was a lot easier when I was 25 than 35. And at 15, you're around a lot of people all the time, all of them also looking for friends
Yeah, I'm too tired and want to catch up on sleep. I know I should just go to bed early, but the lack of responsibility on my day off negates any interest in socializing
@@aerthreepwood8021 The school years are, by far, the most social time in anyone's life. There's an exponential dropoff in the amount of social contact that most people have as soon as they leave school for the final time, whether that be in college or high school. That being said, it isn't necessarily harder to make friends later on. Work friends when you're middle-aged can be some of the most rewarding relationships that you can have in life. Both you and the other people can have much more to talk about because you're adults with adult concerns and interests, rather than college kids.
I commuted to school, same as (it sounds like) Kronii did, and I can confirm that without a reason to linger, as soon as class ends, everyone jumps in their cars and just drives away. It's like a job: as soon as it's quittin' time, you and all your coworkers just get the hell out. Why would you linger at work when they aren't paying you?! Commuting to college runs on the same principle, except they're never paying you, haha. You just simply have no incentive to hang out, so nobody does. I found it much easier to make friends just working in the adult world than I did during my college years. I never befriended a single person during my four years commuting to school, but I made several fairly quickly once I was hired by my first job after graduation. Edit: THAT being said, and to Kronii's point...I've also never remained in touch with any of my friends after I've left any of my jobs, haha. I guess it's partly me and partly the nature of the world, but a lot of people don't remain in contact with their work friends once they are no longer working together. That's just the way it goes. My Dad is 75 years old and retired now, and he's an extravert who is very gregarious, and even he has not really stayed in steady contact with the people that he used to work with. And he worked with some of them for decades, since he spent his entire adult life working for one company, and despite having built up a very large social repository with some of them, they were only ever casual/work friends, so once he stopped working there, they stopped talking. I think that's how it is for the almost all of the casual friendships that one makes over the course of one's life.
Thats SO true. Im in Uni rn and literally nobody is particularly friendly in the slightest. Im not a particularly nervous person, and im good at socialising with others, yet despite forming classmates with others, nobody ever seems willing to be friendlier. I passed by former classmates in corridoors and they just walk right past me, ignoring me. Almost every time. Im not in a halls so maybe that buggers it for me but still, its absolutely insane. My parents always tell me about meeting their forever friends at university, its the place you truly find yourself. No, not really. My experience of uni is plenty of pretty antisocial people and some extraverts who mostly stick to their groups. It sucks, but ive pretty much accepted that im never going to have any sort of meaningful connection to any other human being for the foreseeable future, probably not until im in my late 30s.
True, I actually find my highschool friends to be the one that will last till the end. University just feels different, it's hard to socialize with fellow students.
You may want to re-evaluate how you approach socialising, you mention people not saying hi or ignoring you, are you saying hi to them by name yourself? If you don't really talk they may legitimately not recognise you in passing. You also mention not having connections from highschool as well, which indicates an ongoing issue and not just bad luck with your class mates. It may be worthwhile joining some clubs and doing some reading on how to build and maintain friendships. I say this not to be unkind, I myself have no inbuilt ability to understand facial expressions, body language or tone of voice, people were very confusing as a child, I had to literally study what those meant and how to recognise such things in real life. Social skills are called skills for a reason, there's a large learning component to them, sometimes that doesn't go to plan.
@@XenonPrimeSBSV I hear you and you may be right. Im very good at reading body language and signals, I just always have been very good at reading emotions from others, and I think it means I find it easier to deal with people of most types and on what to say. I guess my main issue that I have concluded on self reflection is that I have an extremely deep seated fear of intimacy. I often cut contact with others to avoid intimacy (platonically speaking), and Its taken me a while to realise I unconsciously ruin my chances by the level to which I cut off. HOWEVER, I still stand by my original idea too. Im not exactly a perfect being but my struggle to connect is exacerbated by: 1. In my country, people are very cliqueish. The people you are friends with in childhoos you're friends with forever. If you dont make friends back then, you're stuffed, and wont ever connect with others easily. My closest friends are all foreigners and first generation immigrants: thats how cliqueish my people are lmao. 2. Nobody puts their foot forward. If someone floats and idea to hang out somewhere, theres a pressure to not cause a fuss. Unless you reaaally badly want to do that thing, then nobody will run you up about it. I find this is worst among uni students. 3. I'm not **that** popular. Im not too sure why and yeah I know how it looks I look like some asshole here but I really dont think im that bad. Its taken me a couple decades of self hatred to conclude im not a horrible person to be around, yet I always seem to just be the other one. I think im just too different to everyone else. Im good at chatter but meaningful communication is non existant in this corner of the world. Idk, im rambling sorry. I tried joining clubs and people were friendly enough but again, I just never got brought into groups or anything. Maybe I screw everything up for myself. Idk. Im too wierd I think. Oh well, thats why I love vtubers! I get to watch friends have fun and get some feeling of intimacy in my life that I severely lack. They fill this very big hole in my heart lmao.
I met my best friend, my current roommate, and several other friends at college, through classes or clubs on campus. The rest of my friends group is mostly extensions of those friendships. To be fair I also moved to a new state my second year of college, so I just made friends at the places I was at. College can be a great place to make friends, you're surrounded by people with common experiences and common interests, but it won't be automatic, it takes work to make friends.
Sally was a big part on Kronii's life, even Kronii took that subject just because Sally did. Kronii who's our oshi who says she doesn't want friends is trusting her only friend. We all need a Sally in our life
Finishing 4th year college and getting my degree, wanted to put this because no matter how much money you have or want to get into something like Kronii here - you put Effort into that and not give up in the thing you will need forward, you focus on you're education, you'll get a small circle of friends who will help you and vise versa to finish and get something that you WILL need later on, if you want to hang out with you're friends that's also totally fine and if you want to stay with them that's also good, but be wary of who you're hanging out with - people know if you're too easy, they will manipulate you. I see what companies do and what people have become now - Cut, Copy, Paste, put the product with no effort, bye bye company shut down and that's it (seriously this happens every time) -read this if you want to succeed, or not (choice is yours)
Man, Kronii just described some my experiences toward the end of college. My burnout was bad, I would literally hope I would get in a car accident just so I didn't have to go to class. I hated the idea that screwing up a single class, most of which I didn't give a shit about, could ruin my whole future. I never tried to make any real friends, just acquaintances for class because I honestly hated it at school. And wouldn't you know it, my bachelor's in biology is practically worthless nowadays.
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I'm just like Kronii, too, due to family issues I never managed to go to college so working doing regular jobs to help keep the family afloat.
At my 30's me being a Dishwasher thinking how my life went so south... a co-worker knew I was good at art and drawing was like
"hey you know in my public college there's a 3D program for Animators you should give it a try"
Me in my mid 30's was like "should I? Am I worthy?"
I realize I was an adult already so I took the program, failed the first attempt, tried again and made it the second time around, I graduated, I worked in some Hollywood films and Netflix shows as an Animator, life was finally getting better now in my 40's finally I was living a decent life for once with a career and things getting together, late but it was going well, then A.I. came along, thousands of Animators including me lost our jobs and I'm back doing regular jobs and trying to push my youtube channel.
So I do get the doomer mentality Kronii has.
😅
…..life really did you dirty, I ain’t talking like kicking a man while he’s down type dirty. I’m talking you climbed a steep hill only to get the Sisyphus treatment and sent right back down. I just hope you can find the strength to get back up again.
I rarely had friends in any of my classes. We'd talk in class, maybe get together outside to work on something, but that was about it. Well, there was one exception, I asked one of the rare girls in my major out in one of my classes in my last semester whom I eventually got married to for 6 years; we had several classes prior so knew each other. The people I became friends with were mainly people I met in various campus clubs/organizations; it helps when you share a common interest.
well done Kronie! To me I'm still struggling to get "friends" cus most of the kids my generation care about things wildly different from my own. I'm a hardcore souls fan and love talking about the lore, I also like shows and stories that are very dark like Berserk or Invincible. But my generation likes tiktok, insta, moba games, gacha games, and sports :(
Nah, different people different experience, the only thing you can generalize is that the older you're the harder it is to make friends, for a lot of reasons.
Time and energy, mostly. I work 60-65 hours a week for most of the year and going out and doing stuff was a lot easier when I was 25 than 35. And at 15, you're around a lot of people all the time, all of them also looking for friends
Yeah, I'm too tired and want to catch up on sleep. I know I should just go to bed early, but the lack of responsibility on my day off negates any interest in socializing
Older you get the more tired and busy you get. By your mid 30s and beyond you mostly make acquaintances.
@@aerthreepwood8021 The school years are, by far, the most social time in anyone's life. There's an exponential dropoff in the amount of social contact that most people have as soon as they leave school for the final time, whether that be in college or high school.
That being said, it isn't necessarily harder to make friends later on. Work friends when you're middle-aged can be some of the most rewarding relationships that you can have in life. Both you and the other people can have much more to talk about because you're adults with adult concerns and interests, rather than college kids.
I commuted to school, same as (it sounds like) Kronii did, and I can confirm that without a reason to linger, as soon as class ends, everyone jumps in their cars and just drives away. It's like a job: as soon as it's quittin' time, you and all your coworkers just get the hell out. Why would you linger at work when they aren't paying you?! Commuting to college runs on the same principle, except they're never paying you, haha. You just simply have no incentive to hang out, so nobody does.
I found it much easier to make friends just working in the adult world than I did during my college years. I never befriended a single person during my four years commuting to school, but I made several fairly quickly once I was hired by my first job after graduation.
Edit: THAT being said, and to Kronii's point...I've also never remained in touch with any of my friends after I've left any of my jobs, haha. I guess it's partly me and partly the nature of the world, but a lot of people don't remain in contact with their work friends once they are no longer working together. That's just the way it goes. My Dad is 75 years old and retired now, and he's an extravert who is very gregarious, and even he has not really stayed in steady contact with the people that he used to work with. And he worked with some of them for decades, since he spent his entire adult life working for one company, and despite having built up a very large social repository with some of them, they were only ever casual/work friends, so once he stopped working there, they stopped talking. I think that's how it is for the almost all of the casual friendships that one makes over the course of one's life.
I love Kronii's doomer personality
Thats SO true. Im in Uni rn and literally nobody is particularly friendly in the slightest. Im not a particularly nervous person, and im good at socialising with others, yet despite forming classmates with others, nobody ever seems willing to be friendlier. I passed by former classmates in corridoors and they just walk right past me, ignoring me. Almost every time.
Im not in a halls so maybe that buggers it for me but still, its absolutely insane. My parents always tell me about meeting their forever friends at university, its the place you truly find yourself. No, not really. My experience of uni is plenty of pretty antisocial people and some extraverts who mostly stick to their groups. It sucks, but ive pretty much accepted that im never going to have any sort of meaningful connection to any other human being for the foreseeable future, probably not until im in my late 30s.
True, I actually find my highschool friends to be the one that will last till the end. University just feels different, it's hard to socialize with fellow students.
@@Lazy_Wulf I dont really have many highschool friends either, so im in a bit of a pickle these days.
That way of thinking is probably the reason tbf
You may want to re-evaluate how you approach socialising, you mention people not saying hi or ignoring you, are you saying hi to them by name yourself? If you don't really talk they may legitimately not recognise you in passing.
You also mention not having connections from highschool as well, which indicates an ongoing issue and not just bad luck with your class mates.
It may be worthwhile joining some clubs and doing some reading on how to build and maintain friendships.
I say this not to be unkind, I myself have no inbuilt ability to understand facial expressions, body language or tone of voice, people were very confusing as a child, I had to literally study what those meant and how to recognise such things in real life.
Social skills are called skills for a reason, there's a large learning component to them, sometimes that doesn't go to plan.
@@XenonPrimeSBSV I hear you and you may be right. Im very good at reading body language and signals, I just always have been very good at reading emotions from others, and I think it means I find it easier to deal with people of most types and on what to say.
I guess my main issue that I have concluded on self reflection is that I have an extremely deep seated fear of intimacy. I often cut contact with others to avoid intimacy (platonically speaking), and Its taken me a while to realise I unconsciously ruin my chances by the level to which I cut off.
HOWEVER, I still stand by my original idea too. Im not exactly a perfect being but my struggle to connect is exacerbated by:
1. In my country, people are very cliqueish. The people you are friends with in childhoos you're friends with forever. If you dont make friends back then, you're stuffed, and wont ever connect with others easily. My closest friends are all foreigners and first generation immigrants: thats how cliqueish my people are lmao.
2. Nobody puts their foot forward. If someone floats and idea to hang out somewhere, theres a pressure to not cause a fuss. Unless you reaaally badly want to do that thing, then nobody will run you up about it. I find this is worst among uni students.
3. I'm not **that** popular. Im not too sure why and yeah I know how it looks I look like some asshole here but I really dont think im that bad. Its taken me a couple decades of self hatred to conclude im not a horrible person to be around, yet I always seem to just be the other one. I think im just too different to everyone else.
Im good at chatter but meaningful communication is non existant in this corner of the world.
Idk, im rambling sorry. I tried joining clubs and people were friendly enough but again, I just never got brought into groups or anything. Maybe I screw everything up for myself. Idk. Im too wierd I think.
Oh well, thats why I love vtubers! I get to watch friends have fun and get some feeling of intimacy in my life that I severely lack. They fill this very big hole in my heart lmao.
I met my best friend, my current roommate, and several other friends at college, through classes or clubs on campus. The rest of my friends group is mostly extensions of those friendships.
To be fair I also moved to a new state my second year of college, so I just made friends at the places I was at. College can be a great place to make friends, you're surrounded by people with common experiences and common interests, but it won't be automatic, it takes work to make friends.
Sally was a big part on Kronii's life, even Kronii took that subject just because Sally did. Kronii who's our oshi who says she doesn't want friends is trusting her only friend. We all need a Sally in our life
Physics was the easiest for me. I always found Chemistry and Biology too hard like they were some black magic shtuff.
The way her hair flows is so charming for some reason
Finishing 4th year college and getting my degree,
wanted to put this because no matter how much money you have or want to get into something like Kronii here - you put Effort into that and not give up in the thing you will need forward,
you focus on you're education, you'll get a small circle of friends who will help you and vise versa to finish and get something that you WILL need later on,
if you want to hang out with you're friends that's also totally fine and if you want to stay with them that's also good, but be wary of who you're hanging out with - people know if you're too easy, they will manipulate you.
I see what companies do and what people have become now - Cut, Copy, Paste, put the product with no effort, bye bye company shut down and that's it (seriously this happens every time)
-read this if you want to succeed, or not (choice is yours)
4:07 i felt the same way too until i got a part-time job doing that (which pays really well btw) and went “……oh that’s why”
As a college student, the longer I continue watching this clip the more I relate to Kronii
I think Kronii needs a BIG HUG.
Clearly, she doesn’t sound like she has a chip on her shoulder at all. 😂
I’m so glad I went to trade school, then after that I went to serve in the Air Force for awhile
Does she really not realize how much i.... mean chat want to marry her😭
Okay Arararalalagi kun.
No you've said the name wrong, it's "Araragi" with 2 "ra"s
Sorry I fubbadabad it >_
@@ASongOfDestiny No, you did it on purpose
Shes just like me fr fr
Kronii got a lot of baggae huh
Man, Kronii just described some my experiences toward the end of college. My burnout was bad, I would literally hope I would get in a car accident just so I didn't have to go to class. I hated the idea that screwing up a single class, most of which I didn't give a shit about, could ruin my whole future. I never tried to make any real friends, just acquaintances for class because I honestly hated it at school.
And wouldn't you know it, my bachelor's in biology is practically worthless nowadays.
Doing my bachelor's in biology right now lol, so far I've been lucky to have a lot of easy classes.
7:21 Kronii isn't a part of the system
Damn she super smart
07:09 what did kronii says, Bseries?
Bursaries
@@HandoruKiipa thank youuu~
I forget was it Harvard or Yale that was discriminating against certain races of people? One of those two.
The real friends are from the fraternities/sororities.