Yeah but get into the actual franchise, since 16 isnt a jrpg and should've never been called 16 to begin with. Its a spinoff title sold as a mainline one
@vostok_76 its hard to even call it an action rpg, and it plays nothing like a final fantasy game. We had a spinoff that played like 16, but i guess it doesnt sell as well as calling it 16
You must be like 12 if think something not going mainstream has any relevance to the quality of the product , also it’s pretty disingenuous to say vf is an unknown discord fighter , it’s had a steady scene since vf 1, why do u think they got away with rereleasing vf 5 like six times . Vf may have lost it’s market share in the ps1 era due to being exclusives on doomed sega consoles but they gameplay has always been really good . Any legitimate complaints about vf are based on presentation . Again u sound young because to even argue that vf wasn’t huge is just silly , it’s one of the first legit fun 3d games ever and saying it sucks just screams of recency bias . Also Tmmswe was incredibly bad faith about vf, he said it’s slow and clunky lol. Come on dude it’s ok if u can’t box dash day one .
@@aeson6294 You can't take everything he says seriously. He's a content creator, after all. He knows a big portion of his chat because he's been growing his community for a while now, which is why they troll each other. When you pay attention to how he treats his irl friends and son, you can see he's a pretty down to earth guy. As for being obnoxious, I just don't see it. There are a billion more "content creators" who fit that bill, but even though I don't agree with you I'll respect your opinion because I don't think his streams/videos are for everyone.
@@avoidthevo1d why does that matter? its still a final fantasy game even if the gameplay has been tweaked a lot, ff15 was different from ff10? but its still considered a ff game, ff14 is a mmorpg
@@PunkPaine Thats the only good part. "Exploring" normal areas couldnt be worse. Literally 2 types of enemies in each location and you just stun lock them forever..
I love how the collab makes Tekken player tries FF16 and the other way around. Saw some people in r/FFXVI wanting to try Tekken a few days after Clive's announcement
@@smurfdaddy420 sucked because people "prefer old style" games and living in the past, dont listen to them since they didnt know what they talking about, the game is absolutely fun and enjoyable.
I got it on PS5 just haven't touched it yet. I am one of those who prefers classic Final Fantasy, but I'm not the crazy all good or all bad kind of guy, I loved FFXIII liked FFXV but didn't finish it, As long as it's not the modern day woke slop I'm open to it.
Yeah but both of the characters represent the games that do not reflect the franchise at all lmao. Imagine how surprised they will be to discover that jrpg genre exists. That final fantasy used to be a jrpg giant before and not this spinoff sht they sold as as a mainline titles
@@avoidthevo1d For the last time. The whole point of mainline ff games is that each new mainline title is drastically different than the others in some or most ways No mainline ff game is similar, especially with how battles work
@oneofthekindscarf8612 And yet they were still rpg games of some kind with progression and stuff to them. Not mentioning that the overwhelming majority of the games were classic jrpgs. 16 isnt even like an action rpg, its a hack n slash game at this point, it feels like that one recent spinoff game we got
@@avoidthevo1d go be negative somewhere else, tryna read comments and you're being a dick to everyone. It's an FF game, just not a game you like (nor one I like either) so deal with it 😂
MainMan THANK YOU. This is exactly what I had hoped for when we learned Clive was coming to Tekken, that it would find a new audience who could appreciate it. I'm an unequivocal fanboy abt this game and watching people be EXCITED about FF again makes me happy
I'm so glad how postively you've been about CLive. In a sea of the itnernet being horrible (as usual) you've just been very cheerful and having a blast both with Tekken and now with FF16. As someone who loves both games this is awesome to see!
Glad to see TMM enjoying the game and especially the music, Soken is a top tier composer. Just need to hope he does a full playthrough because Titans fight and OST is Eikonic
16 got a lot of flack for it's combat because people literally couldn't fathom the idea of having a big moveset with fast attacks. Everyone immediately defaulted to mashing square and called the game trash which is a shame. But I'm honestly quite surprised that someone who makes a living off playing fighting games immediately did the same thing. It makes sense why souls games get such praise for their combat when their systems are so restrictive and boring. They just don't allow mashing which tricks people into thinking the games are complex. Hopefully if TMM does a full playthrough he experiments with the combat more. The eikons and torgal allow for some cool stuff alongside having launchers and enemy step
I really like this game but its combat is nothing special. Its super flashy and cool and satisfying but there is 0 depth (except for that odin phase shift ability). Its doesn’t match action games with actual combat depth like dmc5.
@@blackreaperkaneki9900 have you not played other games? Like seriously explain the depth and compare it to something like dmc5. Hell dude I love ff16 but for the large scale boss fights and somewhat the story and characters not for its deeep gameplay
@@blackreaperkaneki9900ignore him the game combat is great with all big moveset and many ways to do combos ... people complain about the bosses having too much health well ofcourse you are not doing any combos just mashing square
Mainman if you stick with this game you are in for a treat my guy. Also crazy how many ppl are spoiling tf outta the game for him smh is it really that hard to just shut tf up and let him experience it for himself? 😂
I know the beginning feels quite long, but that's because the game is pretty massive, and they really wanna make you feel immersed early on in the world.
One of my favorite final fantasy games in the series. The combat is a beautiful cinematic art piece and the music is amazing. The only con that stands out is that it's horribly optimized during cutscenes and some areas in the game but i recommend messing with the dynamic/super resolution to resolve frame rate issues. I hope to see you continue the game and make this a series on your channel ❤
1:58 I was thinking that immediately before main man said it 😂😅, I was like why am I having flashbacks of gandalf fighting that huge demon monster in LOFTR 2
only reason i never finished the game was because of that perfomance and my pc isnt even bad, really wish this shit got optimised because I was so into it until I ran into a certain area were my fps literally halved for a full hour
Yeap that's the drawback of console games that gets ported to PC. That is why I bought a console to get a good experience. Only play console games with a console then PC games just for PC
Guys hear me out. Imagine how hard the internet would break if the next guest character happens to be Kratos from god of war. Just imagine how cool that would be
FF16 is really cool and I'm glad TMM is enjoying it, but next time he shits on anime for being lame because he thinks it's all basically Naruto we're gonna have even more ammo to throw at him for being a closet weeb
Insufferable commentary mainman it suites your tekken gameplay but not for this game . Read the room dude you’re way to cringe for this kinda playthrough tone it down and you might actually understand what’s going on in the game . Keep asking questions to answers you chatted makka over and missed 🤦🏽♂️ .
this was really unbearable to watch. he sets the tone for his chat and his chat is even more insufferable. And I watch TMM for a lot of Tekken related stuff. I actually got into FF16 after the collab. Once again I'm reminded why I dislike most of the Tekken community
@seeNoEvilhearNoEvil_ its like just play and enjoy the game but every second is tekken terminology homing this and that. Just enjoy the game lol don't need to bring tekken into the game cus both are very different.
@mainman this game has many high quality moments just like this demo but it is weighed down by quite a lot of busy work and filler in between these moments. My advise would be to skip side quests and just focus the main story if you want to stay immersed.
I dreamed about you playing this game days earlier before you actually played it, like literally, it was the laggy end part. I never watched any videos or ever played this game. Not the first time, the other game you played was Wakes in the Deep or what's it called. Strange.
That could be it, however the PC port is an unoptimized mess. I'm guessing that poor 8GB 2070 Super ran out of VRAM Pretty much needs framegen enabled to get some sort of visual smoothnesss
@@Jay-mx5ky You're not wrong, but there are more elegant solutions that many other games make us of. Instead of massive framedrop the highest res version of the textures simply won't load in
For the PC version of FF16 the big reason why it frame drop that badly is the super resolution, u should try to switch Nvidia to Legacy, it a bit downgrade but still look good but fix the frame decently the issues a lot
Can’t believe Clive from Tekken 8 got a standalone game before Kazuya.
He actually did, it's called Super Smash Bros. Had a bunch of guest characters like Mario
@@conraeinche means standalone game
@@conraeinc first of all, you don't understand what "standalone" means. second, you missed the joke.
@@eileen88 no way you just typed this bro 😭😭 negative billion aura
Man you're corny
Clive was so hype he actually started playing Final Fantasy, he was not joking. Maybe it's finally my time to get in the franchise.
A couple of my friends have started it as well because it is as well. Seems to be a common trend, fortunately.
FFX remastered and VII remake/rebirth are great places to start
Yeah but get into the actual franchise, since 16 isnt a jrpg and should've never been called 16 to begin with. Its a spinoff title sold as a mainline one
@@avoidthevo1d why cause it's an ARPG?
@vostok_76 its hard to even call it an action rpg, and it plays nothing like a final fantasy game. We had a spinoff that played like 16, but i guess it doesnt sell as well as calling it 16
I love his Tekken content, but watching him play other games is great and refreshing
Not watching him misrepresent virtua fighter that was cringe
@@finnmarr-heenan2397 it’s not a misrepresentation to say that something sucks that never managed to make it big and was always a discord fighter
You must be like 12 if think something not going mainstream has any relevance to the quality of the product , also it’s pretty disingenuous to say vf is an unknown discord fighter , it’s had a steady scene since vf 1, why do u think they got away with rereleasing vf 5 like six times . Vf may have lost it’s market share in the ps1 era due to being exclusives on doomed sega consoles but they gameplay has always been really good . Any legitimate complaints about vf are based on presentation . Again u sound young because to even argue that vf wasn’t huge is just silly , it’s one of the first legit fun 3d games ever and saying it sucks just screams of recency bias . Also Tmmswe was incredibly bad faith about vf, he said it’s slow and clunky lol. Come on dude it’s ok if u can’t box dash day one .
Really? I find him pretty obnoxious. It's like watching a child attempting to be interesting. It's a good thing he's good at Tekken.
@@aeson6294 You can't take everything he says seriously. He's a content creator, after all. He knows a big portion of his chat because he's been growing his community for a while now, which is why they troll each other. When you pay attention to how he treats his irl friends and son, you can see he's a pretty down to earth guy. As for being obnoxious, I just don't see it. There are a billion more "content creators" who fit that bill, but even though I don't agree with you I'll respect your opinion because I don't think his streams/videos are for everyone.
I did not expect for TMM to pick up my Favorite FF this soon and Love it. I CANT WAIT FOR MORE!! MAKE THIS A SERIES YOU MASKU MAN!!!!!
I second this. This game is on my Top 5 ps5 games.
The ps5 only has 5 games @@PunkPaine
@@EggscellentTreemaybe it’ll be 6 games when they release the ps6🙃
@@SlaineReigns your favorite ff is the game that doesnt play like an ff game? Maybe you dont like ff?
@@avoidthevo1d why does that matter? its still a final fantasy game even if the gameplay has been tweaked a lot, ff15 was different from ff10? but its still considered a ff game, ff14 is a mmorpg
I played this game a few times, only to play the Titan and Bahamut battles again. Those battles are so cinematics and I love them.
Ascension is a great OST
@ agree. Listen to it while working on at the gym is a great feeling.
@@PunkPaine Thats the only good part. "Exploring" normal areas couldnt be worse. Literally 2 types of enemies in each location and you just stun lock them forever..
I spam Arcade mode a lot whenever i replay haha
I love how the collab makes Tekken player tries FF16 and the other way around. Saw some people in r/FFXVI wanting to try Tekken a few days after Clive's announcement
I hope more people give FFXVI a chance too, this game is a great journey
And I will get this game
Yep even though its a chore half way it was a fun experience nevertheless
i thought it kinda sucked tbh
@@smurfdaddy420 sucked because people "prefer old style" games and living in the past, dont listen to them since they didnt know what they talking about, the game is absolutely fun and enjoyable.
I got it on PS5 just haven't touched it yet. I am one of those who prefers classic Final Fantasy, but I'm not the crazy all good or all bad kind of guy, I loved FFXIII liked FFXV but didn't finish it, As long as it's not the modern day woke slop I'm open to it.
Clive has people trying both Tekken and final fantasy lmao. Same happened with a friend who played noctis.
Yeah but both of the characters represent the games that do not reflect the franchise at all lmao. Imagine how surprised they will be to discover that jrpg genre exists. That final fantasy used to be a jrpg giant before and not this spinoff sht they sold as as a mainline titles
@@avoidthevo1d For the last time. The whole point of mainline ff games is that each new mainline title is drastically different than the others in some or most ways
No mainline ff game is similar, especially with how battles work
@oneofthekindscarf8612 And yet they were still rpg games of some kind with progression and stuff to them. Not mentioning that the overwhelming majority of the games were classic jrpgs. 16 isnt even like an action rpg, its a hack n slash game at this point, it feels like that one recent spinoff game we got
@@avoidthevo1d go be negative somewhere else, tryna read comments and you're being a dick to everyone. It's an FF game, just not a game you like (nor one I like either) so deal with it 😂
@@avoidthevo1d bro you forgot to put your 🤡 on
A man of his word, said he might try it and he actually did it
It's better than people give it credit for. Im about done with it, and I feel like it was well worth my time. The VA work is really good.
You should play the DLC’s before finishing the game.
@@blackreaperkaneki9900 really? Ok, fair enough.
1:20 that explosion was so bright it nuked tmm's camera too lol
Peak, the guest character did his job. It's my favourite FF.
Really happy you decided to give this game a chance, you won't be disappointed.
Oh hype, I just started playing this. I didn't think Clive would get me into Final Fantasy but here we are
MainManSWE needs a new MainManPC
MainMan THANK YOU. This is exactly what I had hoped for when we learned Clive was coming to Tekken, that it would find a new audience who could appreciate it. I'm an unequivocal fanboy abt this game and watching people be EXCITED about FF again makes me happy
Clive from Tekken 8 got a spinoff game? That's awesome! Hopefully this one ends up better than Death by Degrees.
Negan from Tekken 7 got his own show. These guest characters must be really popular.
1:57:02 I can't stop laughing after tmm's pc bricked during this cutscene
did the game forget to clean up after previous cutscene?
@@Hjortur95 not too sure but i'm glad it did lol
looks like i'm not the only one who bought the game after playing him in tekken
I really enjoyed this I hope he makes it a series
I'm so glad how postively you've been about CLive. In a sea of the itnernet being horrible (as usual) you've just been very cheerful and having a blast both with Tekken and now with FF16. As someone who loves both games this is awesome to see!
Glad to see TMM enjoying the game and especially the music, Soken is a top tier composer.
Just need to hope he does a full playthrough because Titans fight and OST is Eikonic
Clive is basically FF Jon Snow.
Damn thats accurate
16 got a lot of flack for it's combat because people literally couldn't fathom the idea of having a big moveset with fast attacks. Everyone immediately defaulted to mashing square and called the game trash which is a shame.
But I'm honestly quite surprised that someone who makes a living off playing fighting games immediately did the same thing. It makes sense why souls games get such praise for their combat when their systems are so restrictive and boring. They just don't allow mashing which tricks people into thinking the games are complex. Hopefully if TMM does a full playthrough he experiments with the combat more. The eikons and torgal allow for some cool stuff alongside having launchers and enemy step
I highly doubt that he’s going to experiment with the combat and do some flashy combos.
I really like this game but its combat is nothing special. Its super flashy and cool and satisfying but there is 0 depth (except for that odin phase shift ability). Its doesn’t match action games with actual combat depth like dmc5.
@ 0 depth???? Have you not seen the shit you can do?
@@blackreaperkaneki9900 have you not played other games? Like seriously explain the depth and compare it to something like dmc5. Hell dude I love ff16 but for the large scale boss fights and somewhat the story and characters not for its deeep gameplay
@@blackreaperkaneki9900ignore him the game combat is great with all big moveset and many ways to do combos ... people complain about the bosses having too much health well ofcourse you are not doing any combos just mashing square
Watching this guys pc run these cutscenes way worse than my ps5 is pretty funny
Mainman if you stick with this game you are in for a treat my guy. Also crazy how many ppl are spoiling tf outta the game for him smh is it really that hard to just shut tf up and let him experience it for himself? 😂
OMG YES, I hope u make this into a series
I’m glad he didn’t just talk shit about Clive and saw what the hype is all about.
Amazing game
I know the beginning feels quite long, but that's because the game is pretty massive, and they really wanna make you feel immersed early on in the world.
@@Nikita_Runato add if you dont read the active lore it gives or pay attention to the politics a lot can fly over your head
I didn't think Main Man would actually play 16. This is going to be good, I look forward to this!
1:57:00 man the soundeffect here had me crying of laughter with the framerate problems, i’m in tears!
Well then, time to wait for the whole series.
His Silent Hill playthrough was a treat.
One of my favorite final fantasy games in the series. The combat is a beautiful cinematic art piece and the music is amazing. The only con that stands out is that it's horribly optimized during cutscenes and some areas in the game but i recommend messing with the dynamic/super resolution to resolve frame rate issues. I hope to see you continue the game and make this a series on your channel ❤
He ran out of VRAM
Who else was screaming at their screen everytime that mainman did a perfect dodge without counter hitting?
1:58 I was thinking that immediately before main man said it 😂😅, I was like why am I having flashbacks of gandalf fighting that huge demon monster in LOFTR 2
Bro, it only gets better after Clive fights more and more powerful ennemies. Extremely epic adventure
Will you do a full walkthrough?
Hope TMM sticks up to the Bahamut fight, see this game go absolutely bonkers. Amazing game imo, wasn't expecting it to be as engaging as it was.
Fuckin love to see Tekken players loving FF16. I knew this game would definetely find its audience on PC
You have to play the whole game now! We want to watch you playing it!!
Gotta have more, this is awesome
Away is still my favorite OST in this game.
Ascension is no.2
Wait till you fight Gigas. Your mind will explode with joy.
Man tried watch it but dude was annoying….who complains about the soundtrack when it goes with the scene the he’ll.
I was here for the entire stream and I loved every second. I can’t wait for part 2 today!
i platinum ff 16 u will enjoj it alot, best scenes ever seen,will give you chills.
I just checked out Lord of The Rings 2 Towers intro. It's the exact same 😂😂
No way! 😂
TMM on my favorite game of all time ? You love to see it
Final Fantasy 16 Frames per second
This is amazing! I would love to see you playing FF16, my other current favorite game right now, apart from tekken 8!
Masku the goat
FF XVI is AMAZING and it was my GOTY 2023.
Streamer gameplay is always so hard to watch but the rest was so fun keep em coming.
Yoooo😂 you played it bro. Want to see your combos for it❤️🔥
Real talk, since clive came out, I've just been tanking the main story and it's been great! Hope you enjoy it
only reason i never finished the game was because of that perfomance and my pc isnt even bad, really wish this shit got optimised because I was so into it until I ran into a certain area were my fps literally halved for a full hour
yeah i refunded cuz performance was so bad. hope they patch it
Yeap that's the drawback of console games that gets ported to PC. That is why I bought a console to get a good experience. Only play console games with a console then PC games just for PC
@@adventurertako1316the fact that it got ported from console explains everything now jesus christ
ngl watching this made me buy the full game, really hooked into ff again 🔥🔥🔥
He finally saw the light and his playing this gem of a game i couldn't be proud 😢😂
Yo mainman i highly recommended using a controller for this game 😂
Guys hear me out. Imagine how hard the internet would break if the next guest character happens to be Kratos from god of war. Just imagine how cool that would be
8:14 the shock! 😆
During my playthrough I forgot about him and when i saw him again my first reaction was "i dont like this chic" 😂
FF16 is too much for this man’s PC.
I need him to do a full playthrough
Since when did they have tekken characters in FF?
oh you need to do full game of this !
TMM this is an M rated game unlike other final fantasy games 😅
Wait for the final fight That ITS NOT THE FINAL FIGHT, got that feeling 3 times in this game 😂😂😂😂
This is awesome lol. You know it's a good guest character when it gets people to buy the game they're from
Mainman with the Variety. Nice!
I demand a Full Playthru Mainman
FF16 is really cool and I'm glad TMM is enjoying it, but next time he shits on anime for being lame because he thinks it's all basically Naruto we're gonna have even more ammo to throw at him for being a closet weeb
Would love to try FF XVI but I worry my graphics card will die. Did someone try it on a 2060 and managed to get a stable framerate?
Download the free Demo and Test it yourself
Master class of a game in my top 5 FF ever.
Peak comedy I love tmm content man
Insufferable commentary mainman it suites your tekken gameplay but not for this game . Read the room dude you’re way to cringe for this kinda playthrough tone it down and you might actually understand what’s going on in the game . Keep asking questions to answers you chatted makka over and missed 🤦🏽♂️ .
I agreed. Just wished he toned it down more then it comes to these types of games.
this was really unbearable to watch. he sets the tone for his chat and his chat is even more insufferable. And I watch TMM for a lot of Tekken related stuff. I actually got into FF16 after the collab. Once again I'm reminded why I dislike most of the Tekken community
@seeNoEvilhearNoEvil_ its like just play and enjoy the game but every second is tekken terminology homing this and that. Just enjoy the game lol don't need to bring tekken into the game cus both are very different.
part 2?
Also Joshua should of known Rage art is -15 on block
@mainman this game has many high quality moments just like this demo but it is weighed down by quite a lot of busy work and filler in between these moments. My advise would be to skip side quests and just focus the main story if you want to stay immersed.
If you do plan to continue you'll need a new GPU, this game tears through 8GB GPUs.
Shout out to Tulio who made the model of your grace
Why didn't Biast headbutt the rock?
Is he stupid?
The crossover worked
I think you should opt for controller when playing this game mainman
Damn i really thought he played the whole game
I dreamed about you playing this game days earlier before you actually played it, like literally, it was the laggy end part. I never watched any videos or ever played this game. Not the first time, the other game you played was Wakes in the Deep or what's it called. Strange.
Mainman needa new masku pc
He definitely has the money for a top end PC. Probably just lazy about upgrading.
Did you install it on an ssd? Could be the problem with the slowdowns.
That could be it, however the PC port is an unoptimized mess.
I'm guessing that poor 8GB 2070 Super ran out of VRAM
Pretty much needs framegen enabled to get some sort of visual smoothnesss
@@ZimpanX which is sad
@@ZimpanX 8GB VRAM is just not enough for PS5 games with resolutions higher than 1080p these days.
@@Jay-mx5ky You're not wrong, but there are more elegant solutions that many other games make us of. Instead of massive framedrop the highest res version of the textures simply won't load in
this guy beat radahn, i dont think any difficulty in this game will pose any threat
Both versions of Radahn, in fact
This game is not hard at all. Only on Ultimaniac, but this difficulty is arcade mode only
For the PC version of FF16 the big reason why it frame drop that badly is the super resolution, u should try to switch Nvidia to Legacy, it a bit downgrade but still look good but fix the frame decently the issues a lot
Please play more!!!!!!
Audiobalance is quite bad i nthis one, but i'd enjoy the playthrough!!!
TMM If you like this kind of FF, I want you to try FFXII as well.
That was of the funniest streams ive ever seen
Wow that's awesome. You playing it because he dropped in tekken 8😂😂😂
My innocence! 😂
I died at "Final Frames 16"
20:12 sigma emo male ahh zetsy stare 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
😭😭 "i thought final fantasy didnt do..fucking"
if mmswe likes this game then he likes anime
IMAGINE USING PHOENIX SHIFT FOR MORE DAMAGE, i would never....
Does this game run poorly for anyone else?
No, Just Test the free Demo
1:55:09 Ifrit turns into Bryan Fury