i have both an ENFJ and an ENTJ best friend, and it’s always incredible how similar yet different they both are. i’ve always thought that ENFJs were underrated in their ambition and ENTJs were underrated in their care. now if the two of them were to meet… - INFJ
i'm an ENFJ who has always felt somewhat misrepresented in the community; i've always (before i found out about MBTI) seen myself as a quite logical and goal-oriented person and even though i am definitely an ENFJ, it still feels odd to me when we're seen as highly emotional/"sensitive" people, whereas in reality (from my experience, at least) we can be quite logical, but also, as you said, contradictional in our logic :) never have i thought about that being because of Ne though! there's definitely a lot of food for thought here... as always, great video harry!
@@CognitivePersonality This video is the single most accurate in-depth analysis I have ever seen in my life about ENFJ's and ENTJ's. This helped me truly understand who I am, thank you so much for this.
if i allowed to guess, i think its because the dichotomies stereotypes of "F" which is both looked down upon and highly misunderstood (in dichotomies theories) when they heard word "F" they think about emotional, sensitive, and other negative stereotypes associated with general understanding of "feeling" based on what i perceived, the word "T" vs "F" in dichotomies is less based on logical/objective vs emotional/subjective, but more on behaviour based which is "object" or "people" oriented, or also "individualistic" vs "cooperative" which is i believe, that the "T" in dichotomies is strongly relate(or if could be explained by) Te-Fi, because their tendencies to be hard in their external world, and more attuned to what they want while F is could be related to Fe-Ti, because their tendencies to be people/society oriented, soft outside, but harsh inside and actually, i believe it could explain your situation, which is atleast you "think" you are logical inside, but if could arrogantly predict, you are more or less friendly in outside manner,
Brilliant video and well articulated and presented. Being ENTJ I really enjoyed how you compared us to not being robots and can totally relate to chasing happiness.
I agree! It made sense when he said ENTJs avoid negative situations sense we don’t know how to handle it. I subconsciously avoid negative people or situations even with family.
@@CognitivePersonality sorry for mentioning you in unrelated comment, but I don't use youtube very much and I hadn't found easier way to speak directly to you, even after googling. (somehow I had problem to mention you in separate coment even with using @, nevermind) I'm considering using Text To Speach engine to voice over this exact video of yours with polish lector just to watch it with my finance. I wonder if you would mind if I then upload this to youtube, or even send it to you to make you upload this. I don't really care who would have it on channel. My main goal is to watch and discuss this with my polish partner, but it doesn't feels like this amount of work would be worth it if nobody expect us would use my work that would be put into voice overing this video. Would you mind? Would you want to put voice overed with polish TTS (text to speach) video yourself if I made one?
@@wappynwappyn6984 Why don't you.... like, put on captions and set the auto translate feature to Polish, and every time there's a wrong translation you can explain what was said? Seems to be the easier option of the 2.
This video is really good! I'm an ENFJ (I finally figured it out after many mistypes), and I relate a lot to what you said! Also, it's funny because I know an ENTJ and I always thought that we were strangely similar in certain ways, but I wasn't sure why! :D
I think it's fairly simple to realize that one is a extroverted decider. But I find it incredibly difficult to distinguish within myself whether I'm extroverting my thinking or feeling predominantly. For months I thought I was ENFJ, but as I survey the function and attitude descriptions across multiple sources, I begin to realize that perhaps what I thought was extroverted feeling was me looking at my own Fi. Wearing your heart on your sleeves, seeking creative solutions, trial by error -- these are new ideas I need to take into account. Great video, thank you. Fe and Te are absurdly similar in so many ways.
Loved this video! I'm an INTJ, but I find ENFJs absolutely fascinating. I've noticed this shared belief in changing ourselves to better fit our reality of the world, and your video does a great job of explaining why that might be. I'd love to see an ENFJ and INFJ comparison video in the future! I have a few friends who are confused. It's VERY clear to me, but I also hesitate to tell Fe users who they are due to my experience with how they absorb/reflect on those type of comments. Looking forward to more videos in the future!
I loved this video. I'm an ENFJ and in my work and social life I make friends with ENTJs all the time. It's always a fun work relationship because were so focused on results.
I don't see these two types as opposed in the slightest - as you say, both are often highly focused, results-oriented individuals who can contribute equally in both ideas and workload. It does sound fun! Cheers for your comment!
Thankyou! First time I've heard logic mentioned with ENFJ. I started to put my own focus on research compulsions down to the fact that I've been with (dating and married) an INTP for decades or perhaps that I was in fact an ENTJ mistyped but your explanations resonated and cleared things up. Thankyou again! Blessings.
I'm so glad that you did this video! ENFJ and ENTJ tend to be a common case of mistyping as each other i think. Because of Ni authority, both tend to be very charismatic, forward moving, attention grabbing individuals, and often very successful. As you said, both employ alot of Fe and Te alike, but the motivations behind it are different. The main difference comes with the divergent stack, othervise they are very similar. So for this reason, many people preceive Enfjs as Entjs, and vice versa. Personally, i've always liked Enfjs because no matter how capable and confident they are, they are always kind, humble, caring and team workers... I hope to see more Enfj content! 😊
Hi Harry, this is pure magic. Thank you so much for providing so much clarity on a subject that has been tormenting me for months. For the first time, I feel seen and fully understood. When I was typed recently by an ISTP and their conclusion was that I was an ENTJ, it completely fractured my confidence in my long held ENFJ identity. I could not explain why it affected me so or how upset I have truly been since that day. Now, with this video allowing me to joyously borrow your logic to patch back together my broken parts, I feel at last I can rest back into myself and continue working to unveil more of my unconscious psyche. Please keep doing what you're doing; it's amazing!
I would love to see an INFJ vs ENFJ - I feel like I learned so much about the difference between these two types, and I have tested as both INFJ and ENFJ.... Honestly, I feel like I know myself in a new way already. Wow! Thank you!!
Wow, I found this video SO MUCH BETTER than the one about "5 signs you are not ENTJ". Now I feel like I understand a lot more about ENTJ AND ENFJ. I have watched every "5 signs you are not" videos, but this "knowing the difference" style videos is really much better for learning (at least for me, anyway). It might be because when you are comparing similarities to other types, it helps me to construct a visual mental network 👍👍
This video PERFECTLY summarizes why I don't relate to any ENFJ memes. A lot of the MBTI meme makers don't realize there's a lot more to us than local Mother Teresas (who wasn't even an ENFJ lol).
Thank you very much for the video, very interesting. I also believe that the main difference between ENTJ and ENFJ is based on "doing things" or "making a pleasant environment", "rational" vs "emotional". For the rest, they are so similar. ;-)
Extremely interesting. It’s odd how I can relate to this ENTJ’s description even though I’ve never been able to relate to any ENTJ’s description from MBTI... CPT rocks 🤘.
i loooove how this video series explains how the stacks and their functions work together really well! Great work with the over-all theory as well as these videos!
Zayna Syyed Absolutely. I don’t feel like she ever had the ability to sympathize in any real way. (She doesn’t care about our kids emotions either. Sounds harsh, but it’s true.)
Zayna Syyed Yep it did and I felt very alone with her. It took a ton of effort on my part to get it to last that long. Mostly for religious reasons and the fact that I thought it was better to keep it together for the kids. The stress levels were over the top managing her volatility/impulsivity/anger. When we finally separated, a stress headache that I didn’t realize I had, went away. Major feelings of relief.
I've taken an intensive Myers Briggs and I it showed me pretty close between some aspects, but listening to this, I am SO an ENFJ. I am pursuing a PhD in History in my 70s, no surprise. I am logical and organized, persistent in my goals, very ethical and reliable, and value consensus and harmony in my relationships. I rely on myself and the environment I create for my happiness. I like people but I share my innermost self with a select few to whom I am very loyal. I absolutely compromised myself, knowing I was doing it, to preserve a very abusive relationship, and still feel guilty about that; I lived the life of being very competent in my work life but lost my bearing behind closed doors. Very illuminating!
Great Channel to watch. The most insight and detailed information in one place. Loved this one the most. I’m a ENFJ. My son is an ENTJ. I’ve watched this episode with him and twice without him. I learned so much. And it quite literally helped me to understand.my son and over 15 years miscommunication and not understanding why the disconnect. I would love to see each one of these topics by themselves.
I'm ENTJ and my finance is ENFJ I stopped after 13s to write this: I'm am thinking logical hard-ass and my gf have feeling communal kind of personality. Understimated fact is just that we have much more strong sides, and that we are not that stupid to be trapped be all bed sides of these personality threat. For Example I can easly act 100% logical and ignore all of my own emotions, but I learned that it's not a great idea in longer term. And my "secound half" helped me to understand emotions way better than I did before, and shown me it's importance. All our "atributes" have strong and weak sides, we just should learn much enough to get to selfawerness level where we do not hurt ourself, but we find a way to use our strenghts to to avoid getting our weeknesses on ours ways.
I'm ENTJ, my bf is ENFJ and I highly relate to your comment. My bf has helped me soften my views on people to a degree. We can be an absolute power couple or completely butt heads 😂
I think where the ENFJ (as an ENFJ) is actually coming from is a place of hard coded logic after all Ti is the backbone of our cognition...if you want to get anywhere in life inevitably you have to be able to work people; they are more than mechanistic machines that are extremely complex...there's always a reason we create good vibes...it's not an end in itself which is the important take away it rather makes logically cohesive sense & it just so happens that we're good at manoeuvring people subtly or directly such is convergent FeSe...the bulldozer effect rarely works (not that ENTJs necessarily do this it's contingent on many variables). Not that you implied this but to think that we're just these loving people machines is a real misnomer...we're probably the most calculating individuals you'll meet whilst simultaneously being the most authentic in our assertions ie what is logical.
So... You suggested I might be an Exxx after my comment that I still felt the 38 tests saying I was an INFJ were wrong. So I investigated the Exxx's and identified with quite a bit from the ENFJ. Except for a few critical aspects everyone seems to associate with ENFJ's. 1. ENFJ's are people magnets. I think my magnetic poles are reversed. 2. Harmony above all and avoid conflict at all costs. Pretty sure not one person that knows me would say this about me. 3. Loves big crowds and has a gazillion friends. No and no. And here you are the first one actually mentioning that ENFJ's don't like big crowds unless they can experience them as one entity. Thank you! --> very much me this. I called it being in my bubble observing the crowd, not being part of it. As for friends, it takes a long time before I call anyone friend. I can count the ones I have on 1 hand. I'm very picky as to who I want to hang out with and I spend 99.99% of my time alone and have done so for decades. I tend to feel exhausted after social gatherings and end up wondering why the hell I went in the first place. this is part of the reason why I did identify with quite a bit from the INFJ but still, I'm not anywhere near their assigned unicornish magical etherical gorgeousness. I like my introverted friends because they make silence comfortable. If that makes sense.
You have written just the right thing for ENFJ. Speciall that part, they aren't part of the crowd, they stay inside bubble and observe the crowd. 😆😆 Just me. Another thing, they are feelers, but not express any sadness, difficulty to anyone, atleast for me.
Forgive me, I’m drunk as I write this. My brother had me take the MBTI when he was in college. I was 15 and had no idea, nor cared what this test meant, results? ENFJ. I took it again years later in in college, Psychology 101. ENFJ. When MTBI became popular on social media, I took the test and posted my results. ENFJ (with that cute protagonist avatar, holding a mighty sword- Ha!) I’m 32 now and have had a few major life changes, and have been contemplating which career I want to pursue to the fullest. Out of laziness, I took an online quiz that I thought would give me results of a job title. My results were “You’re an ENFJ!!” With a picture of Oprah smiling. I always have a roundabout way of saying things, but- I hate being an ENFJ. I absolutely adore my INTJ boyfriend. He’s pretty much incapable of being a phony. He takes his time formulating thoughts, and whether or not he’s correct, it’s 100 percent genuine. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve become more cynical, especially towards people. I want to help them, but I feel like I’m juggling lead balloons. I’ve got their numbers, area code, zip code, and know what their motives are. If we were to paint the picture of each MBTI in the worst light, aside from the normal “pros and cons”, I’d say ENFJ’s suck the hardest at life when they’re depressed. That’s all.
I'm not INTJ, I'm ENTJ but my bf is ENFJ...he does NOT handle depression or the downsides in life well. Your dynamic reminds me of my bf and I in a way.
I am an ENTJ and I never ever forget where I put stuff. Also I remember stuff with a nearly steel-trap memory. It's not perfect but I have an incredible memory
I also have a good memory. But I have noticed that under high stress I will forget where I put stuff, because suddenly my usually reliable memory bends sharply, usually when tired or hungry. I get around this by inventing systems of only leaving items in certain places.
This video is just phenomenal! Your videos are very informative and also make me always satisfied because 9 times out of 10 my questions are answered in a detail and logical way . Also the editing is really good in this one , Keep it up harry
I had some doubts about being an ENTJ or ENFJ: I took several tests and always resulted ENTJ, which I identify with under many issues, but for the lack of empathy and emotional intelligence that are often described as typical features. After watching this video I definitely believe to be an ENTJ, a quite "emotionally acute" one to quote you; still I have to admit I recall some of those "slips" you talked about hahaha. Thank you for your work! Could you please suggest some further readings on CPT ENTJ?
This is exactly what I hope to hear in response to my Knowing the Difference videos - so glad I could clear that up for you! I have a more thorough description of the ENTJ cognitive type in the CPT eBook, and also touch on the type in my 16 Types of Introverted Intuition video :)
@8:32 !! @10:28 So this is why i kept typing as an INFJ for most of my life until now. I always felt something was off about the descriptions, like i maybe i was more ExTP though i kept thinking it was because i was a more "turbulent/unhealthy/more logical INFJ just trying to actually get things done but ending up sensitive when they dont work out efficiently" ... when in actuality i realized im an ENTJ.. im completely passionate about what i think and visualize yet i have a terrible handle on my own true emotions and needs that i bulldoze others if i feel they are getting in my way of external harmony (Te apparently, not Fe). For example at my work, for years i kept doing more than i probably had to do individually. I kept saying i did it because i knew i could tackle it most efficiently and so others could focus on easier tasks or ones that best suited their own skills. But even when we had enough people competent and capable enough to do it (or learn) i was still frustrated and didnt understand why i felt so unrelaxed and just wanted to get it all done myself. My problem seems to be i cant just accept other people's style of doing this if i feel its effecting or stopping my vision of getting to a certain outcome. This is how i realized Fe was not present. I kept thinking i did all i did for everyone but i realized the truth was i was too anxious and wanted to comfort myself, but was so disengaged with how i even felt to begin with and just wanted to go to action. Anger has always been a complex for me and i often attributed it to being an HSP or sensitive to the chaos and feelings of other people. I kept thinking its because of their disharmony i had to try and help organize or innovate ways to make things more pleasant in the environment. This turned out not to be Fe like i thought-- i was way too selfish by comparison and because of my repressed Fi function i couldnt tell at all and just thought everything i worked towards was for some greater cause and no one understood that vision i had. After talking and meeting with other actual INFJs i realized i had way less empathy and feeling compared to my thinking function. I felt guilty for it for a long time and couldnt understand why until now. Im happy i do now so i can stop apologizing for my differences or "weaknesses" that i couldnt get a grip on and just now start to recognize my true strengths and motivations. This video really spoke to the gaps and holes in my thinking of the types and functions. Being led to believe i was just a confused INFJ for years to finally being able to understand why i think or do the things i do truthfully feels so great.
Oh yeah. I have no awareness of my own vulnerabilities unless someone is actively trying to do a driveby on me. Which my neighbor is. It's annoying. I mean, whatever happened to talking to people? Gee! Well, I am not sure I am ENTJ or anything at all, at this point. Or, actually, since the age of approx. 24, so about 30 years ago. I had a psych eval that said I was WAY too sane and that I had "deviant" thinking, as in it conformed to neither of the two main thinking patterns. Unfortunately, I did not get to talk to the person who interpreted the evaluation for much time at all. But they said about 50% of the population thinks in one thinking pattern and the other 50% in a different one. Then, there is a third pattern that something like probably 3% of all of humanity has thought like. I have learned how to talk like other people enough to get by, most days. I had a friend who loved me enough, for a time, to learn to talk more like me. I've met many people I could understand enough and/or vice versa. So, I imagine it can't be too far off. One thing she did say is that it in no way means I wouldn't get to the same conclusions as other people. It just means I wouldn't use the same path to get there. I didn't learn what the difference between the patterns is. I have never been able to find that information, except once and that was only enough information to see that what I remembered her telling me is true and accurate.
Hi creator - I’m not sure what your name is, sorry. As far as the Si, ENTJ - I will probably remember how things were done - but I’m not going to reflect on it (or retain much of it), especially if I think there was and is a BETTER way (systems, processes, etc) - but I will remember. As I get older I am learning to be in that Ne space, becoming more emotionally aware (Fe) and better at those social harmonizing desires that are more typical of ENFJ, but I completely respect your mention of “slips” as I do have those from time to time. You are so bright. Such a fast talker! I agree with other commenters: excellent video, enjoying your insights and depths, as always - and love your N-speak. 😉 That just makes it all the more enjoyable for me.
My old best mate who I lived with for a few years was an ENFJ so I actually have a good real life example to go off, and I can honestly say alot of the information you gave in the video is eerily accurate. Too bad Ti explainations sound like mumbo jumbo to me sometimes, and I struggle to make sense out of it haha. But awesome vid and I'm curious as to where you get your information from???
A very clear video about my type, Enfj, You should definitely make some memes about us, bc memes in social media are really inaccurate. Plus, memes are more constructive, because we love it)
@@CognitivePersonality And, all the S-type people hate my new implementations until about one year has elapsed from the time I initiated the implementation. Can't they see what I see?! Nope.
@Dude Sweet Well I look at it with a bias on the other side. I am slightly more of a ENFJ than ENTJ, but I used to not like it, because ENFJ comes across to me as this... a bit emotionally unstable, overreactive kinda type. So for a long time I used to incorrectly claim myself as a full ENTJ.
I can totally relate. Mine was 51 x 49 and sometimes it seems to me that I don’t exactly match with the ENFJ description, it’s just too passionate and idealist, I’m not like that, although I do have this empathetic way of living my relationships
agreeing with this comment section entirely lmao, but one question what do you guys now type yourselves as? With such a small difference, which do you say you are when asked, ENFJ or ENTJ?
@@AceYT69 Ok, so I retook the test some time ago, and it was a clear ENFJ this time. I identify as an ENFJ. But I feel like my first test might have been biased, because I tried to make myself more logical than I actually am if that makes sense. But I am sure there are perfect mixes of types and that is normal! You can never ever fit all society into just 16 boxes and expect them to fit perfectly ❤
A little advice. Please don't put your pop out description like at 03:07 in the bottom of the screen. Why? Because some people use subtitle and we can't read your pop out descriptions when subs are on. Otherwise, good video!
i have a question at 5:30 you say, that ENFJ is very trusting of scientific methods to explain reality. But I think what you mean by that is, that ENFJs trust logic a lot, not external sources, which would be the ENTJ who is not concerned with the meaning behind reality at all and therefore does not need it to be logical. This is what gives him the freedom to blindly trust external sources (Te) in the first place to fuel his activities which again allows him to be more playful with reality. He does not need everything to be perfect in a grand scheme of things worldwise. He just needs it to be working perfectly. Would you say this is correct?
Agreed I rarely trust external sources unless they are logically cohesive of course & I'll decide that on my own merit. Bare in mind I'm a divergent ENFJ & rarely trust external sources especially given the domain I work in
Am... Am I ENFJ?? I thought I was an INFJ, and I relate to never reading the instruction manuals and doing things my OWN way, my logic (especially Personality Psychology related things) is built as an massive amalgamation between multiple sources and it's difficult to trust my own logic because I dislike being incorrect. And I am highly guarded with my emotions VERBALLY, but my feelings show on my face whether I want to hide it or not. *identity crisis time cause my Fi is untrustworthy*
I wouldn't say I'm extremely conformist (black sheep who hasn't been given hand- me down archetypes) but I very much relate to lacking this introverted sensing specificity to know why I feel a certain way. It certainly explains why I get this Fi-Ni build up that then goes 'boom' every now & again. My other half is an ESFP with a very highly activated Fi-Si; I'm so glad I came across CPT as it's helping with my relationship; I used to 'think' that he was the problem, wanting to go over all the emotional minutia and that basically he was just being 'illogical' but I now realise I'm just as much a part of the problem. An ENTP on the discord has came up with a really inventive project as to how I might overcome my difficulties with Fi-Si & so far I've noticed that I am making some headway; I'm sticking with it as usually if I don't see instantaneous results I bin it off from the outset
Logic is not a superior form of thinking to rational. This is a logical fallacy that Ti users consistently assert. Logic users develop stacks of Logic to develop pyramids, but at some point they get lazy and don't take the time to verify certain blocks on their pyramid, eventually leading to a logical leap. These leaps are based on logical assumptions that are presumed true. Rational thinking observes these pyramids from the outside, and can quickly identify anomalies and inconsistencies of thought. Rational can also observe the foundation of the Logic, and any flaws in the assumptions. I've never met a Logic user with sophisticated thinking, despite them putting so much weight on their supposed detailed accuracy. The purity of one's logical pyramids is often built on ego and titles, not reality, although you'd never convince a Logic user of this, because they're blind to their logical leaps. The best thinking usually requires someone with Ti and Te to collaborate, wherein both can fine tune any intellectual structure with the proper checks and balances necessary for true accuracy. The reason ENTJ's are the most successful in business as compared to Ti users is because while a Ti user spends an extraordinary amount of time fine tuning a single pyramid, the ENTJ has already abstractly imagined 50 pyramids and discerned the best one to build. Meanwhile, the Ti user will look at the ENTJ's pyramid and proclaim it as "unreliable", not knowing that even if the ENTJ's pyramid functions at 50% efficiency it's still 2000% more efficient than the pyramid the Ti user is currently "perfecting". This is why Ti users are the employees of ENTJ' and ESTJ's, they're best at perfecting one of our pyramids than building their own.
Not really love I'm an ENFJ who employers ESTJs & ENTJs 😂. I think what you've stated is more in playing to ubiquitous MBTI stereotypes. If you'd watched the video ENFJs have ample usage of TeNe convergence. Yes we're logical hard asses but we're also extremely rationale & pragmatic
@Tified96 case in point, using an anecdotal experience to nullify larger rational realities on the logic that if ones the exception than they're also the rule. Enfj's are notoriously irrational, you have Inferior Ti.
It was really hard to process the audio in this video. It might be a combination of the accent, music, and unfamiliar vocabulary. Subtitles would be really cool. Edit: Yay!
This was very interesting. Every time I take a test for personality I get my top as ENTJ... i watched your video and i am beginning to really understand why this is, but i am still confused about one main area. I am an extremely emotional person, but i do my best to make decisions based off logic and rationality because that is what I highly value. Is it possible to have an emotional ENTJ, or have I been mistyped? Everything else in the video seemed spot on when reflecting back on myself, i do have issues identifying my own emotions, but i am definitely NOT a conformist. I am extremely individualistic, but somehow still value the opinions of others. Two areas that really resonated were the forgetfulness and the rewards system. I do run after future happiness and I am forgetful when I lose an item or miss details in a story I'm telling. I am very broad and idealistic in this area. Thanks so much for the vid!
Most ENTJs are incredibly emotional - this is an Fi conscious type, after all; much of the logic the ENTJ instigates is at the behest of their emotions :)
What you have written is accurate for me too.just the same perspective and feeling. The vibe of a ENTJ person is very much visible, and ofcourse different from ENFJ. But when we think for ourselves, there is lot of common qualities. Again thanks, that you have written my thoughts.
ENFJs are often sensitive about their place within the larger collective/relationships whereas ENTJs have a more individualised sensitivity accompanied by a kind of uncertainty. There are no hard and fast rules, however.
If I am an extrovert (reactive to the outer world, according to your definition) but I feel like I apply Te well but in more of a divergent (observational) manner (in a way that might fit how an INTJ/ISTJ might apply it, rather than as an ENTJ), would this assume that I could not have Te in the dominant nor convergent auxiliary position? Also, does this imply that (as an extrovert) I have to have Fe as dominant or as convergent auxiliary?
I agree, based on the convergence/divergence criteria. Those are exactly the types that I’m considering here. My gut feeling is that I’m more likely as a judging/codec dom, but I can’t completely rule out the two lens doms as well.
I disagree with you man. ENTJs want to win. Fe takes a back seat. The outward projection of Fe in other types to ENTJs will annoy the hell out of most ENTJs. ENTJs don’t chase a place where they are independently happy. Why are our billionaires mostly ENTJs or INTJs, they make frameworks that work for the masses, for both customers and employees.
There's often good reason ENTJs are known for their charisma and it is not owing to sociopathic button pressing, but rather something more authentic and enjoyable. ENTJs tend to perceive status as a means towards happiness, though saying that every (or even most) ENTJs are unstoppable and on the extreme end of extraverted proclivity in every case is a little bit too much of a stereotype for me.
...what do you constitute as the outward projection of Fe? I'm an ENFJ & I'm the most serious stoic person you can get...it's hardly this lovey dovey atmosphere.
Hi Harry, What do you make of the Objective Personality system and Socionics? There seems to be various models of Socionics. I'm still getting my head around the archetypal names of each role..
They've both made some wonderful contributions, for sure. Socionics types tend to be similar to MBTI types in name only, there can be overlaps but it is largely a different paradigm based on what a function is 'seen' to be doing. OP takes this to another level and has almost contrary definitions of functions. An OP type will seldom correspond to an MBTI type, and it is again about what is explicity *seen* in a demonstrable way :)
ENFJ here, i was confused about a number of things such as the contradiction you highlighted. At work i remember being able to work efficiently and organize myself however i have a hard time getting off my couch, and i have been also spending alot of time engaging my Ti to conform to what i value. Also I recently took a big 5 test that confused me due to the assumption that enfjs are supposed to be agreeable due to their Fe, but i guess my Ti prevents me from being agreeable , so i guess disagreeableness is not a trait which is specific to the entj. Does this make sense?
@@CognitivePersonality I can confirm as an ENFJ that I'm far from agreeable; not that I go deliberately out of my way to be an ass but logic does take precedence.
I was in doubt if im entj or enfj because my high empathy. I really feel the pain of the other peoples as it was mine, i can really walk in another people shoes and I also relate a LOT more with the Fe definition than the Te definition. Buuuuut, I can offer solutions to them to feel better. And even when I try my best to be sentimentally caring, It seems its not my strenght to do so. I really want to help the people with their feelings, but Im afraid that I really suck with that. And some negative emotions are difficult for me to handle in another person (even with mine!). I only know how to give the persons around me a physical reward to help then feel better (sometimes my friends says me that im so materialistic). Now I can relate more to entj, but i have a doubt. You can be highly empathetic being an entj?
I present the different nuances in this video to display in part how different cognitions can very much 'mix' in terms of behaviour - cognitive type itself, however, doesn't mix between similar dichotomies. E.g. an ENTJ and INTP can mix, as can an ENFJ and INFP, but not ENFJ and ENTJ :)
@@CognitivePersonality oh i think i got it! u mean developed functions outside their stack? like enfj FeNiSeTi but being able to develop a Te or as in socionics?
I always get both entj and enfj in the test I feel like I am both I care if I hurt people and care about what people think about me but at the same time I will say what I think and do not care if people doesn't agree with me
@@CognitivePersonality I honestly don't know I feel like weak entj and I have social phobia when a lot of people look at me but sometimes I can control I also have intj moments like I like being alone and I would often think People are sooo stupid....
@@nikoletacude8721 almost every Entj I've known or seen on comments on reddit or youtube or any other typology website believes themselves to be an introvert! check out objective personality's video on ENTJ: I hate people something like that! I used to believe I was an INTJ, until I understood the difference between cognitive extraversion and introversion! Harry here has a good video on that subject! An ENTJ's weak Fi makes them feel vulnerable and worthless sometimes, our only savior is the employment of extraverted logic in an environment where we get validation! That's where we become our healthiest, and that's why so many TE doms are married to their work! Fi Reasons
I always wonder, how it is possible to meet all the ENTJs and ENFJs in the comment section, when these People are supposed to be so rare. Cannot really feel Special anymore calling myself one of them hahaha
The ENTJ's conclusions are absolutely not abstract, and only appear theoretical to those outside. We skip past the A-Z for efficiency sake, and occasionally propose A/2-Z/3 as postulative additives.
I found this video to be very inaccurate. The ENTJ is TE NI SE FI, and therefore, they have introverted feeling, not extroverted feeling as you state the ENFJ is FE NI SE TI which makes THEM the Extraverted feeling type. Introverted feeling makes us ENTJ's not trust the feeling function mush or pay attention to it or find it important to dwell in. I think you need to check your MBTI information more carefully before putting out this information.
Hi Susan, I don't use MBTI - that system measures how much a person values a function, whereas CPT explores the pathways connecting functions together. Just because a person has Fi in their default state does not bar them from employing Fe from a Te doorway - Te and Fe are opposing ends of what is in reality the same continuum. I use a fluid model and have no interest in boxes that state a person has x function and not another. Cheers for your comment!
As an ENFJ, more ENFJ content would be appreciated! :)
Has to be done :)
@@CognitivePersonality as an ENTJ I really liked the humorous undertone of that statement
i have both an ENFJ and an ENTJ best friend, and it’s always incredible how similar yet different they both are. i’ve always thought that ENFJs were underrated in their ambition and ENTJs were underrated in their care. now if the two of them were to meet… - INFJ
i'm an ENFJ who has always felt somewhat misrepresented in the community; i've always (before i found out about MBTI) seen myself as a quite logical and goal-oriented person and even though i am definitely an ENFJ, it still feels odd to me when we're seen as highly emotional/"sensitive" people, whereas in reality (from my experience, at least) we can be quite logical, but also, as you said, contradictional in our logic :) never have i thought about that being because of Ne though! there's definitely a lot of food for thought here... as always, great video harry!
Thanks very much! Yes ENFJ's can have solid logic, and the Ne aspect is not to be underestimated :)
@@CognitivePersonality Yes, absolutely!
I can relate to that too. I’m an ENFJ but also when I did the test feeling and thinking we’re very close. Feeling was only 10% more
@@CognitivePersonality This video is the single most accurate in-depth analysis I have ever seen in my life about ENFJ's and ENTJ's. This helped me truly understand who I am, thank you so much for this.
if i allowed to guess, i think its because the dichotomies stereotypes of "F" which is both looked down upon and highly misunderstood (in dichotomies theories)
when they heard word "F" they think about emotional, sensitive, and other negative stereotypes associated with general understanding of "feeling"
based on what i perceived, the word "T" vs "F" in dichotomies is less based on logical/objective vs emotional/subjective, but more on behaviour based which is "object" or "people" oriented, or also "individualistic" vs "cooperative"
which is i believe, that the "T" in dichotomies is strongly relate(or if could be explained by) Te-Fi, because their tendencies to be hard in their external world, and more attuned to what they want
while F is could be related to Fe-Ti, because their tendencies to be people/society oriented, soft outside, but harsh inside
and actually, i believe it could explain your situation, which is atleast you "think" you are logical inside, but if could arrogantly predict, you are more or less friendly in outside manner,
Brilliant video and well articulated and presented. Being ENTJ I really enjoyed how you compared us to not being robots and can totally relate to chasing happiness.
Thank you very much!
I agree! It made sense when he said ENTJs avoid negative situations sense we don’t know how to handle it. I subconsciously avoid negative people or situations even with family.
@@CognitivePersonality sorry for mentioning you in unrelated comment, but I don't use youtube very much and I hadn't found easier way to speak directly to you, even after googling. (somehow I had problem to mention you in separate coment even with using @, nevermind)
I'm considering using Text To Speach engine to voice over this exact video of yours with polish lector just to watch it with my finance.
I wonder if you would mind if I then upload this to youtube, or even send it to you to make you upload this.
I don't really care who would have it on channel. My main goal is to watch and discuss this with my polish partner, but it doesn't feels like this amount of work would be worth it if nobody expect us would use my work that would be put into voice overing this video.
Would you mind? Would you want to put voice overed with polish TTS (text to speach) video yourself if I made one?
@@wappynwappyn6984 Why don't you.... like, put on captions and set the auto translate feature to Polish, and every time there's a wrong translation you can explain what was said? Seems to be the easier option of the 2.
This video is really good! I'm an ENFJ (I finally figured it out after many mistypes), and I relate a lot to what you said! Also, it's funny because I know an ENTJ and I always thought that we were strangely similar in certain ways, but I wasn't sure why! :D
I think it's fairly simple to realize that one is a extroverted decider. But I find it incredibly difficult to distinguish within myself whether I'm extroverting my thinking or feeling predominantly. For months I thought I was ENFJ, but as I survey the function and attitude descriptions across multiple sources, I begin to realize that perhaps what I thought was extroverted feeling was me looking at my own Fi. Wearing your heart on your sleeves, seeking creative solutions, trial by error -- these are new ideas I need to take into account. Great video, thank you. Fe and Te are absurdly similar in so many ways.
Loved this video! I'm an INTJ, but I find ENFJs absolutely fascinating. I've noticed this shared belief in changing ourselves to better fit our reality of the world, and your video does a great job of explaining why that might be. I'd love to see an ENFJ and INFJ comparison video in the future! I have a few friends who are confused. It's VERY clear to me, but I also hesitate to tell Fe users who they are due to my experience with how they absorb/reflect on those type of comments. Looking forward to more videos in the future!
I often find a lot of parallels between the ENFJ and INTJ! Cheers :)
LOL, the same. I'm trying to figure out if Solaria the Monster Carver is an ENTJ or an ENFJ.
I loved this video. I'm an ENFJ and in my work and social life I make friends with ENTJs all the time. It's always a fun work relationship because were so focused on results.
I don't see these two types as opposed in the slightest - as you say, both are often highly focused, results-oriented individuals who can contribute equally in both ideas and workload. It does sound fun!
Cheers for your comment!
Thankyou! First time I've heard logic mentioned with ENFJ. I started to put my own focus on research compulsions down to the fact that I've been with (dating and married) an INTP for decades or perhaps that I was in fact an ENTJ mistyped but your explanations resonated and cleared things up. Thankyou again! Blessings.
ENFJ-INTP is a popular match - seems to work really well. Cheers :)
I'm so glad that you did this video! ENFJ and ENTJ tend to be a common case of mistyping as each other i think. Because of Ni authority, both tend to be very charismatic, forward moving, attention grabbing individuals, and often very successful. As you said, both employ alot of Fe and Te alike, but the motivations behind it are different. The main difference comes with the divergent stack, othervise they are very similar. So for this reason, many people preceive Enfjs as Entjs, and vice versa. Personally, i've always liked Enfjs because no matter how capable and confident they are, they are always kind, humble, caring and team workers... I hope to see more Enfj content! 😊
As a divergent ENFJ, thank you for this comment 😊. I always try to be humble & polite irrespective of who I'm talking to.
Hi Harry, this is pure magic. Thank you so much for providing so much clarity on a subject that has been tormenting me for months. For the first time, I feel seen and fully understood. When I was typed recently by an ISTP and their conclusion was that I was an ENTJ, it completely fractured my confidence in my long held ENFJ identity. I could not explain why it affected me so or how upset I have truly been since that day. Now, with this video allowing me to joyously borrow your logic to patch back together my broken parts, I feel at last I can rest back into myself and continue working to unveil more of my unconscious psyche. Please keep doing what you're doing; it's amazing!
As an ENFJ I would like to say, I like to thrive within the rules or values I subscribe to, not just abide. Great content though😇👍🏿❤️
Thank you!
I would love to see an INFJ vs ENFJ - I feel like I learned so much about the difference between these two types, and I have tested as both INFJ and ENFJ.... Honestly, I feel like I know myself in a new way already. Wow! Thank you!!
Ahh, awesome to hear!!
Ditto! This would be awesome.
Wow, I found this video SO MUCH BETTER than the one about "5 signs you are not ENTJ". Now I feel like I understand a lot more about ENTJ AND ENFJ. I have watched every "5 signs you are not" videos, but this "knowing the difference" style videos is really much better for learning (at least for me, anyway). It might be because when you are comparing similarities to other types, it helps me to construct a visual mental network 👍👍
I really enjoyed this, great info. Could you make a entj standalone vid?
I'll be working on some more snappy standalone videos next month :)
Thanks for your comment!
This video PERFECTLY summarizes why I don't relate to any ENFJ memes. A lot of the MBTI meme makers don't realize there's a lot more to us than local Mother Teresas (who wasn't even an ENFJ lol).
Thank you very much for the video, very interesting. I also believe that the main difference between ENTJ and ENFJ is based on "doing things" or "making a pleasant environment", "rational" vs "emotional". For the rest, they are so similar. ;-)
Cheers for the comment :)
Entj-a here. Great video. Accurate and informativ.
Extremely interesting. It’s odd how I can relate to this ENTJ’s description even though I’ve never been able to relate to any ENTJ’s description from MBTI... CPT rocks 🤘.
Alongside the ENTP I consider the ENTJ to be completely misrepresented by type descriptions :)
i loooove how this video series explains how the stacks and their functions work together really well! Great work with the over-all theory as well as these videos!
Thanks so much!
ENFJ here. I was married to an ENTJ for 14 years. Brilliant video. Spot on 👌
Thanks a lot! :)
Do you ever feel like your entj doesn’t understand/ care about your emotions? I’m asking this as an enfj
Zayna Syyed Absolutely. I don’t feel like she ever had the ability to sympathize in any real way. (She doesn’t care about our kids emotions either. Sounds harsh, but it’s true.)
Tyler Pond your marriage lasted 14 years though?!
Zayna Syyed Yep it did and I felt very alone with her. It took a ton of effort on my part to get it to last that long. Mostly for religious reasons and the fact that I thought it was better to keep it together for the kids. The stress levels were over the top managing her volatility/impulsivity/anger. When we finally separated, a stress headache that I didn’t realize I had, went away. Major feelings of relief.
I've taken an intensive Myers Briggs and I it showed me pretty close between some aspects, but listening to this, I am SO an ENFJ. I am pursuing a PhD in History in my 70s, no surprise. I am logical and organized, persistent in my goals, very ethical and reliable, and value consensus and harmony in my relationships. I rely on myself and the environment I create for my happiness. I like people but I share my innermost self with a select few to whom I am very loyal. I absolutely compromised myself, knowing I was doing it, to preserve a very abusive relationship, and still feel guilty about that; I lived the life of being very competent in my work life but lost my bearing behind closed doors. Very illuminating!
Great Channel to watch. The most insight and detailed information in one place. Loved this one the most. I’m a ENFJ. My son is an ENTJ. I’ve watched this episode with him and twice without him. I learned so much. And it quite literally helped me to understand.my son and over 15 years miscommunication and not understanding why the disconnect. I would love to see each one of these topics by themselves.
It honestly means the world to hear this - thank you!
I'm ENTJ and my finance is ENFJ
I stopped after 13s to write this:
I'm am thinking logical hard-ass and my gf have feeling communal kind of personality.
Understimated fact is just that we have much more strong sides, and that we are not that stupid to be trapped be all bed sides of these personality threat.
For Example I can easly act 100% logical and ignore all of my own emotions, but I learned that it's not a great idea in longer term. And my "secound half" helped me to understand emotions way better than I did before, and shown me it's importance.
All our "atributes" have strong and weak sides, we just should learn much enough to get to selfawerness level where we do not hurt ourself, but we find a way to use our strenghts to to avoid getting our weeknesses on ours ways.
I'm ENTJ, my bf is ENFJ and I highly relate to your comment. My bf has helped me soften my views on people to a degree. We can be an absolute power couple or completely butt heads 😂
I think where the ENFJ (as an ENFJ) is actually coming from is a place of hard coded logic after all Ti is the backbone of our cognition...if you want to get anywhere in life inevitably you have to be able to work people; they are more than mechanistic machines that are extremely complex...there's always a reason we create good vibes...it's not an end in itself which is the important take away it rather makes logically cohesive sense & it just so happens that we're good at manoeuvring people subtly or directly such is convergent FeSe...the bulldozer effect rarely works (not that ENTJs necessarily do this it's contingent on many variables). Not that you implied this but to think that we're just these loving people machines is a real misnomer...we're probably the most calculating individuals you'll meet whilst simultaneously being the most authentic in our assertions ie what is logical.
ENFJ vs ESTP next please 😭
I'm coming from being an ENTJ to ENFJ. Thank you for this video!
My pleasure!
Very ENFJ and related to most of the functions but I HATE rules and conformity. I guess that’s where I can relate to the ENTJ
So... You suggested I might be an Exxx after my comment that I still felt the 38 tests saying I was an INFJ were wrong. So I investigated the Exxx's and identified with quite a bit from the ENFJ. Except for a few critical aspects everyone seems to associate with ENFJ's.
1. ENFJ's are people magnets. I think my magnetic poles are reversed.
2. Harmony above all and avoid conflict at all costs. Pretty sure not one person that knows me would say this about me.
3. Loves big crowds and has a gazillion friends. No and no. And here you are the first one actually mentioning that ENFJ's don't like big crowds unless they can experience them as one entity. Thank you! --> very much me this. I called it being in my bubble observing the crowd, not being part of it. As for friends, it takes a long time before I call anyone friend. I can count the ones I have on 1 hand.
I'm very picky as to who I want to hang out with and I spend 99.99% of my time alone and have done so for decades. I tend to feel exhausted after social gatherings and end up wondering why the hell I went in the first place. this is part of the reason why I did identify with quite a bit from the INFJ but still, I'm not anywhere near their assigned unicornish magical etherical gorgeousness. I like my introverted friends because they make silence comfortable. If that makes sense.
Okay, cool I'm uploading an ENFJ comparison that shines more light on the subject today!
You have written just the right thing for ENFJ. Speciall that part, they aren't part of the crowd, they stay inside bubble and observe the crowd. 😆😆 Just me. Another thing, they are feelers, but not express any sadness, difficulty to anyone, atleast for me.
Forgive me, I’m drunk as I write this. My brother had me take the MBTI when he was in college. I was 15 and had no idea, nor cared what this test meant, results? ENFJ. I took it again years later in in college, Psychology 101. ENFJ. When MTBI became popular on social media, I took the test and posted my results. ENFJ (with that cute protagonist avatar, holding a mighty sword- Ha!) I’m 32 now and have had a few major life changes, and have been contemplating which career I want to pursue to the fullest. Out of laziness, I took an online quiz that I thought would give me results of a job title. My results were “You’re an ENFJ!!” With a picture of Oprah smiling. I always have a roundabout way of saying things, but- I hate being an ENFJ. I absolutely adore my INTJ boyfriend. He’s pretty much incapable of being a phony. He takes his time formulating thoughts, and whether or not he’s correct, it’s 100 percent genuine. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve become more cynical, especially towards people. I want to help them, but I feel like I’m juggling lead balloons. I’ve got their numbers, area code, zip code, and know what their motives are. If we were to paint the picture of each MBTI in the worst light, aside from the normal “pros and cons”, I’d say ENFJ’s suck the hardest at life when they’re depressed. That’s all.
I'm not INTJ, I'm ENTJ but my bf is ENFJ...he does NOT handle depression or the downsides in life well. Your dynamic reminds me of my bf and I in a way.
I am an ENTJ and I never ever forget where I put stuff. Also I remember stuff with a nearly steel-trap memory. It's not perfect but I have an incredible memory
I also have a good memory. But I have noticed that under high stress I will forget where I put stuff, because suddenly my usually reliable memory bends sharply, usually when tired or hungry. I get around this by inventing systems of only leaving items in certain places.
Ah, fair enough!
I'm an ENTJ with fibromyalgia so you can imagine my frustrations with relation to memory 😂
CPT is making me feel two things: 1.) OMG I have so much to learn...ugh... AND 2.) OMG I have so much to learn! YAY! XD
Ahaha I often feel the same way when planning future installments!
This video is just phenomenal!
Your videos are very informative and also make me always satisfied because 9 times out of 10 my questions are answered in a detail and logical way . Also the editing is really good in this one , Keep it up harry
Love this video, very informational on ENFJs
Thank you! Definitely need to do more ENFJ content :)
I had some doubts about being an ENTJ or ENFJ: I took several tests and always resulted ENTJ, which I identify with under many issues, but for the lack of empathy and emotional intelligence that are often described as typical features. After watching this video I definitely believe to be an ENTJ, a quite "emotionally acute" one to quote you; still I have to admit I recall some of those "slips" you talked about hahaha. Thank you for your work! Could you please suggest some further readings on CPT ENTJ?
This is exactly what I hope to hear in response to my Knowing the Difference videos - so glad I could clear that up for you!
I have a more thorough description of the ENTJ cognitive type in the CPT eBook, and also touch on the type in my 16 Types of Introverted Intuition video :)
@@CognitivePersonality thank you!
we miss what's right in front of us - all types can be selfless once pushed to an extent
not just ENFJs lol
Wow super helpful, I’m always on the cusp of these two types but after listening to this the difference is pretty clear. Thank you for this!
You are the fastest talking infj I’ve seen lol
Haha
Exactly!
Oh thanks sooooo much for doing this video! So excellent 🌺👌💐🌷
My pleasure, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@8:32 !! @10:28
So this is why i kept typing as an INFJ for most of my life until now. I always felt something was off about the descriptions, like i maybe i was more ExTP though i kept thinking it was because i was a more "turbulent/unhealthy/more logical INFJ just trying to actually get things done but ending up sensitive when they dont work out efficiently" ... when in actuality i realized im an ENTJ.. im completely passionate about what i think and visualize yet i have a terrible handle on my own true emotions and needs that i bulldoze others if i feel they are getting in my way of external harmony (Te apparently, not Fe). For example at my work, for years i kept doing more than i probably had to do individually. I kept saying i did it because i knew i could tackle it most efficiently and so others could focus on easier tasks or ones that best suited their own skills. But even when we had enough people competent and capable enough to do it (or learn) i was still frustrated and didnt understand why i felt so unrelaxed and just wanted to get it all done myself. My problem seems to be i cant just accept other people's style of doing this if i feel its effecting or stopping my vision of getting to a certain outcome. This is how i realized Fe was not present. I kept thinking i did all i did for everyone but i realized the truth was i was too anxious and wanted to comfort myself, but was so disengaged with how i even felt to begin with and just wanted to go to action.
Anger has always been a complex for me and i often attributed it to being an HSP or sensitive to the chaos and feelings of other people. I kept thinking its because of their disharmony i had to try and help organize or innovate ways to make things more pleasant in the environment. This turned out not to be Fe like i thought-- i was way too selfish by comparison and because of my repressed Fi function i couldnt tell at all and just thought everything i worked towards was for some greater cause and no one understood that vision i had. After talking and meeting with other actual INFJs i realized i had way less empathy and feeling compared to my thinking function. I felt guilty for it for a long time and couldnt understand why until now. Im happy i do now so i can stop apologizing for my differences or "weaknesses" that i couldnt get a grip on and just now start to recognize my true strengths and motivations.
This video really spoke to the gaps and holes in my thinking of the types and functions. Being led to believe i was just a confused INFJ for years to finally being able to understand why i think or do the things i do truthfully feels so great.
Oh yeah. I have no awareness of my own vulnerabilities unless someone is actively trying to do a driveby on me. Which my neighbor is. It's annoying. I mean, whatever happened to talking to people? Gee!
Well, I am not sure I am ENTJ or anything at all, at this point. Or, actually, since the age of approx. 24, so about 30 years ago. I had a psych eval that said I was WAY too sane and that I had "deviant" thinking, as in it conformed to neither of the two main thinking patterns. Unfortunately, I did not get to talk to the person who interpreted the evaluation for much time at all. But they said about 50% of the population thinks in one thinking pattern and the other 50% in a different one. Then, there is a third pattern that something like probably 3% of all of humanity has thought like.
I have learned how to talk like other people enough to get by, most days. I had a friend who loved me enough, for a time, to learn to talk more like me. I've met many people I could understand enough and/or vice versa. So, I imagine it can't be too far off.
One thing she did say is that it in no way means I wouldn't get to the same conclusions as other people. It just means I wouldn't use the same path to get there. I didn't learn what the difference between the patterns is. I have never been able to find that information, except once and that was only enough information to see that what I remembered her telling me is true and accurate.
Hi creator - I’m not sure what your name is, sorry. As far as the Si, ENTJ - I will probably remember how things were done - but I’m not going to reflect on it (or retain much of it), especially if I think there was and is a BETTER way (systems, processes, etc) - but I will remember. As I get older I am learning to be in that Ne space, becoming more emotionally aware (Fe) and better at those social harmonizing desires that are more typical of ENFJ, but I completely respect your mention of “slips” as I do have those from time to time.
You are so bright. Such a fast talker! I agree with other commenters: excellent video, enjoying your insights and depths, as always - and love your N-speak. 😉 That just makes it all the more enjoyable for me.
I was an INTP for years! I'm now coming up as the ENFJ, it was quite a shift.
That's quite the shift!
My old best mate who I lived with for a few years was an ENFJ so I actually have a good real life example to go off, and I can honestly say alot of the information you gave in the video is eerily accurate. Too bad Ti explainations sound like mumbo jumbo to me sometimes, and I struggle to make sense out of it haha. But awesome vid and I'm curious as to where you get your information from???
A very clear video about my type, Enfj,
You should definitely make some memes about us, bc memes in social media are really inaccurate. Plus, memes are more constructive, because we love it)
omg....1000% accurate......on both of us.........
After working at Red Lobster for four years, I'm still refining tasks to make them run more efficiently.
Hah!
@@CognitivePersonality And, all the S-type people hate my new implementations until about one year has elapsed from the time I initiated the implementation. Can't they see what I see?! Nope.
@@christiancarter255 Some type's are more naturally cautious for sure!
I am actually a perfect mix of the two. The feeling-thinking factor came out as exactly 48% thinking, 53% feeling. Xd
@Dude Sweet Well I look at it with a bias on the other side. I am slightly more of a ENFJ than ENTJ, but I used to not like it, because ENFJ comes across to me as this... a bit emotionally unstable, overreactive kinda type. So for a long time I used to incorrectly claim myself as a full ENTJ.
I can totally relate. Mine was 51 x 49 and sometimes it seems to me that I don’t exactly match with the ENFJ description, it’s just too passionate and idealist, I’m not like that, although I do have this empathetic way of living my relationships
same! some time i'm ENFJ, some time ENTJ.
agreeing with this comment section entirely lmao, but one question
what do you guys now type yourselves as? With such a small difference, which do you say you are when asked, ENFJ or ENTJ?
@@AceYT69 Ok, so I retook the test some time ago, and it was a clear ENFJ this time. I identify as an ENFJ. But I feel like my first test might have been biased, because I tried to make myself more logical than I actually am if that makes sense. But I am sure there are perfect mixes of types and that is normal! You can never ever fit all society into just 16 boxes and expect them to fit perfectly ❤
A little advice. Please don't put your pop out description like at 03:07 in the bottom of the screen.
Why? Because some people use subtitle and we can't read your pop out descriptions when subs are on.
Otherwise, good video!
Noted! :)
Cheers
i have a question
at 5:30 you say, that ENFJ is very trusting of scientific methods to explain reality. But I think what you mean by that is, that ENFJs trust logic a lot, not external sources, which would be the ENTJ who is not concerned with the meaning behind reality at all and therefore does not need it to be logical. This is what gives him the freedom to blindly trust external sources (Te) in the first place to fuel his activities which again allows him to be more playful with reality. He does not need everything to be perfect in a grand scheme of things worldwise. He just needs it to be working perfectly. Would you say this is correct?
Exactly , that's the matter. (I'm an ENFJ)
Agreed I rarely trust external sources unless they are logically cohesive of course & I'll decide that on my own merit. Bare in mind I'm a divergent ENFJ & rarely trust external sources especially given the domain I work in
Am... Am I ENFJ??
I thought I was an INFJ, and I relate to never reading the instruction manuals and doing things my OWN way, my logic (especially Personality Psychology related things) is built as an massive amalgamation between multiple sources and it's difficult to trust my own logic because I dislike being incorrect. And I am highly guarded with my emotions VERBALLY, but my feelings show on my face whether I want to hide it or not.
*identity crisis time cause my Fi is untrustworthy*
Sounds like ENFJ to me 😊
Si is really important function😂😂😂
Important and very underrated! :)
Very informative video thank u! ☺️ ...I’m an ENFJ 😜
Cheers :)
The ENTJ has Introverted Feelings, not Extroverted feeling
@@thesharinganknight9859 Both, really, but Fi has more influence in them.
Thank you and I will be watching this video again. Have lots to learn!
Thank you for the comment - I hope it's informative! :)
I wouldn't say I'm extremely conformist (black sheep who hasn't been given hand- me down archetypes) but I very much relate to lacking this introverted sensing specificity to know why I feel a certain way. It certainly explains why I get this Fi-Ni build up that then goes 'boom' every now & again. My other half is an ESFP with a very highly activated Fi-Si; I'm so glad I came across CPT as it's helping with my relationship; I used to 'think' that he was the problem, wanting to go over all the emotional minutia and that basically he was just being 'illogical' but I now realise I'm just as much a part of the problem. An ENTP on the discord has came up with a really inventive project as to how I might overcome my difficulties with Fi-Si & so far I've noticed that I am making some headway; I'm sticking with it as usually if I don't see instantaneous results I bin it off from the outset
Man all what I have to say is :
YOU ARE A GENIUS ❤❤❤❤👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
You’re saying saying that as deep down you fear you’re stupid
Very interesting videos. Are you going to be comparing/contrasting ESFJs/ESTJs & ISTJs/ISFJs?
I will be! I'm intending to film a new batch of type comparisons soon :)
@@CognitivePersonality Great, looking forward to them.
Logic is not a superior form of thinking to rational. This is a logical fallacy that Ti users consistently assert. Logic users develop stacks of Logic to develop pyramids, but at some point they get lazy and don't take the time to verify certain blocks on their pyramid, eventually leading to a logical leap. These leaps are based on logical assumptions that are presumed true.
Rational thinking observes these pyramids from the outside, and can quickly identify anomalies and inconsistencies of thought. Rational can also observe the foundation of the Logic, and any flaws in the assumptions.
I've never met a Logic user with sophisticated thinking, despite them putting so much weight on their supposed detailed accuracy.
The purity of one's logical pyramids is often built on ego and titles, not reality, although you'd never convince a Logic user of this, because they're blind to their logical leaps.
The best thinking usually requires someone with Ti and Te to collaborate, wherein both can fine tune any intellectual structure with the proper checks and balances necessary for true accuracy.
The reason ENTJ's are the most successful in business as compared to Ti users is because while a Ti user spends an extraordinary amount of time fine tuning a single pyramid, the ENTJ has already abstractly imagined 50 pyramids and discerned the best one to build.
Meanwhile, the Ti user will look at the ENTJ's pyramid and proclaim it as "unreliable", not knowing that even if the ENTJ's pyramid functions at 50% efficiency it's still 2000% more efficient than the pyramid the Ti user is currently "perfecting".
This is why Ti users are the employees of ENTJ' and ESTJ's, they're best at perfecting one of our pyramids than building their own.
Not really love I'm an ENFJ who employers ESTJs & ENTJs 😂. I think what you've stated is more in playing to ubiquitous MBTI stereotypes. If you'd watched the video ENFJs have ample usage of TeNe convergence. Yes we're logical hard asses but we're also extremely rationale & pragmatic
@Tified96 case in point, using an anecdotal experience to nullify larger rational realities on the logic that if ones the exception than they're also the rule.
Enfj's are notoriously irrational, you have Inferior Ti.
It was really hard to process the audio in this video. It might be a combination of the accent, music, and unfamiliar vocabulary. Subtitles would be really cool.
Edit: Yay!
Just FYI that subtitles are available on this video now. :)
It would be interesting if you did a series similar to that what but instead are you an infj or entj, intj or enfj
This was very interesting. Every time I take a test for personality I get my top as ENTJ... i watched your video and i am beginning to really understand why this is, but i am still confused about one main area. I am an extremely emotional person, but i do my best to make decisions based off logic and rationality because that is what I highly value. Is it possible to have an emotional ENTJ, or have I been mistyped? Everything else in the video seemed spot on when reflecting back on myself, i do have issues identifying my own emotions, but i am definitely NOT a conformist. I am extremely individualistic, but somehow still value the opinions of others.
Two areas that really resonated were the forgetfulness and the rewards system. I do run after future happiness and I am forgetful when I lose an item or miss details in a story I'm telling. I am very broad and idealistic in this area.
Thanks so much for the vid!
Most ENTJs are incredibly emotional - this is an Fi conscious type, after all; much of the logic the ENTJ instigates is at the behest of their emotions :)
I’ve taken it 6 times and I got entj three times and enfj three times
What you have written is accurate for me too.just the same perspective and feeling. The vibe of a ENTJ person is very much visible, and ofcourse different from ENFJ. But when we think for ourselves, there is lot of common qualities. Again thanks, that you have written my thoughts.
I'm 100% an ENTJ and I'm HIGHLY Sentimental
17:37 perfectly describes anyone who uses 16 personalities as astrology, in those terms everyone is an ENFJ.
Loved it ! Do you consider doing an Infj/enfj type comparaison
Absolutely on the list :)
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Any video about ENTJ ENFJ dating? Thanks!
Gonna work on specific type combinations at some point for sure!
So i took the test two times and i got first entj and then enfj and i think i'm a enfj because i'm so sensitive idk
ENFJs are often sensitive about their place within the larger collective/relationships whereas ENTJs have a more individualised sensitivity accompanied by a kind of uncertainty. There are no hard and fast rules, however.
If I am an extrovert (reactive to the outer world, according to your definition) but I feel like I apply Te well but in more of a divergent (observational) manner (in a way that might fit how an INTJ/ISTJ might apply it, rather than as an ENTJ), would this assume that I could not have Te in the dominant nor convergent auxiliary position? Also, does this imply that (as an extrovert) I have to have Fe as dominant or as convergent auxiliary?
Fe dominant sounds very likely here, but ENTP and ESTP could also apply.
I agree, based on the convergence/divergence criteria. Those are exactly the types that I’m considering here. My gut feeling is that I’m more likely as a judging/codec dom, but I can’t completely rule out the two lens doms as well.
Hi! Which personality will likely to excel in maritime industry or specifically for seafarer? ENTJ, ESFJ, ENFJ, or ESTJ
I disagree with you man. ENTJs want to win. Fe takes a back seat. The outward projection of Fe in other types to ENTJs will annoy the hell out of most ENTJs. ENTJs don’t chase a place where they are independently happy. Why are our billionaires mostly ENTJs or INTJs, they make frameworks that work for the masses, for both customers and employees.
There's often good reason ENTJs are known for their charisma and it is not owing to sociopathic button pressing, but rather something more authentic and enjoyable. ENTJs tend to perceive status as a means towards happiness, though saying that every (or even most) ENTJs are unstoppable and on the extreme end of extraverted proclivity in every case is a little bit too much of a stereotype for me.
...what do you constitute as the outward projection of Fe? I'm an ENFJ & I'm the most serious stoic person you can get...it's hardly this lovey dovey atmosphere.
Please slow down when you talk and work on your clarity thankyoi
Hi Harry,
What do you make of the Objective Personality system and Socionics? There seems to be various models of Socionics.
I'm still getting my head around the archetypal names of each role..
They've both made some wonderful contributions, for sure. Socionics types tend to be similar to MBTI types in name only, there can be overlaps but it is largely a different paradigm based on what a function is 'seen' to be doing.
OP takes this to another level and has almost contrary definitions of functions. An OP type will seldom correspond to an MBTI type, and it is again about what is explicity *seen* in a demonstrable way :)
ENFJ here, i was confused about a number of things such as the contradiction you highlighted. At work i remember being able to work efficiently and organize myself however i have a hard time getting off my couch, and i have been also spending alot of time engaging my Ti to conform to what i value.
Also I recently took a big 5 test that confused me due to the assumption that enfjs are supposed to be agreeable due to their Fe, but i guess my Ti prevents me from being agreeable , so i guess disagreeableness is not a trait which is specific to the entj. Does this make sense?
Absolutely, Feeling is only loosely correlated with Agreeableness, and so often times Fe dominants are far, far less Agreeable than Fe auxiliaries :)
Cognitive Personality Theory Thanks! This helps.
@@CognitivePersonality I can confirm as an ENFJ that I'm far from agreeable; not that I go deliberately out of my way to be an ass but logic does take precedence.
2 years ago i was enfj, now entj, i'm kinda confused now lol, maybe i'm a mix ?
I was in doubt if im entj or enfj because my high empathy. I really feel the pain of the other peoples as it was mine, i can really walk in another people shoes and I also relate a LOT more with the Fe definition than the Te definition. Buuuuut, I can offer solutions to them to feel better. And even when I try my best to be sentimentally caring, It seems its not my strenght to do so. I really want to help the people with their feelings, but Im afraid that I really suck with that. And some negative emotions are difficult for me to handle in another person (even with mine!). I only know how to give the persons around me a physical reward to help then feel better (sometimes my friends says me that im so materialistic).
Now I can relate more to entj, but i have a doubt. You can be highly empathetic being an entj?
I'm a very sentimental ENTJ. The only thing I don't like is wallowing in depression and not finding solutions.
Is it possible to be a mix ..because I feel like I am the mix
I present the different nuances in this video to display in part how different cognitions can very much 'mix' in terms of behaviour - cognitive type itself, however, doesn't mix between similar dichotomies. E.g. an ENTJ and INTP can mix, as can an ENFJ and INFP, but not ENFJ and ENTJ :)
Cognitive Personality Theory okay thank you
It’s funny that you say that because my wife told me that I have the mindset of an INTP with the behavior of an ENTJ...
wdym enfj uses Te and entj uses Fe?? what-
You heard it here first! They do it all the time - ENTJs can be incredibly charismatic, and ENFJs always employ Te at the behest of social cause :)
@@CognitivePersonality oh i think i got it! u mean developed functions outside their stack? like enfj FeNiSeTi but being able to develop a Te or as in socionics?
@@emily8164 Yes!
@@CognitivePersonality thanks! really nice video
you're INTP or INTJ, Most Likely INTP
I always get both entj and enfj in the test
I feel like I am both
I care if I hurt people and care about what people think about me but at the same time I will say what I think and do not care if people doesn't agree with me
Sounds like ENTJ is more likely, as ENFJs tend to outsource their Fi (identity etc) to Fe
@@CognitivePersonality I honestly don't know
I feel like weak entj and I have social phobia when a lot of people look at me but sometimes I can control
I also have intj moments like I like being alone and I would often think
People are sooo stupid....
@@nikoletacude8721 almost every Entj I've known or seen on comments on reddit or youtube or any other typology website believes themselves to be an introvert! check out objective personality's video on ENTJ: I hate people something like that! I used to believe I was an INTJ, until I understood the difference between cognitive extraversion and introversion! Harry here has a good video on that subject!
An ENTJ's weak Fi makes them feel vulnerable and worthless sometimes, our only savior is the employment of extraverted logic in an environment where we get validation! That's where we become our healthiest, and that's why so many TE doms are married to their work! Fi Reasons
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@@CognitivePersonality Don't worry about it. I still love you. English is not my primary language. Just nitpicking brotha
I always wonder, how it is possible to meet all the ENTJs and ENFJs in the comment section, when these People are supposed to be so rare.
Cannot really feel Special anymore calling myself one of them hahaha
Because they're probably seeking these videos out....
The ENTJ's conclusions are absolutely not abstract, and only appear theoretical to those outside.
We skip past the A-Z for efficiency sake, and occasionally propose A/2-Z/3 as postulative additives.
I found this video to be very inaccurate. The ENTJ is TE NI SE FI, and therefore, they have introverted feeling, not extroverted feeling as you state the ENFJ is FE NI SE TI which makes THEM the Extraverted feeling type. Introverted feeling makes us ENTJ's not trust the feeling function mush or pay attention to it or find it important to dwell in. I think you need to check your MBTI information more carefully before putting out this information.
Hi Susan, I don't use MBTI - that system measures how much a person values a function, whereas CPT explores the pathways connecting functions together. Just because a person has Fi in their default state does not bar them from employing Fe from a Te doorway - Te and Fe are opposing ends of what is in reality the same continuum. I use a fluid model and have no interest in boxes that state a person has x function and not another. Cheers for your comment!