@@lochlanncunningham4415 and Johan won more championships, 7 to Belichick's 6 --- of course Brady has 7, but Vuelta and Giro wins are like AFC/NFC title games, if you win the AFC title you have a shot at the Superbowl so he has 4 more of those.... But Belichick has him there he's been to 5 other title games
Bruyneel giving the great insights as usual. Must be pumping his ketone-IQ…😂 I enjoy these more than listening to LA read advertisements for 37.5 out of 40 minutes.
Word! Couldn't agree more. And of the remaining 2.5 minutes he spends 1 minute laughing about the "hilarious" pronunciation of French stage departures and finishes...
JB2 gives us such great insight. It really adds an educational aspect to the fan's point of view. Thank you so much. Here is an idea for JB2 after the tour or after the season. I would like to see Johan do an overview/insight on the tour during the Blue Train days with video and interviews from back in the day, Thank you again. Ride to the level of your smile.
Sometimes in alpine ski racing the TV is able to superimpose one racer on another to see how they compared in speed, line etc. It would cool to do that in the time trial tomorrow with TP and JV.
Oh my god! I just decided to tune in (after my The Move fix) and honestly, this is at another level. Now I have two shows that I MUST watch! Thank you JB and Johan!
No mention of Pog’s salty lips on stage 14 which I think was the warning sign that stage 15 would be harder for him. I think he held the day well, but because of stage 14 could not put in those violent attacks.
Jonas was second in the ITT in Dauphiné, he lost to Mikkel Bjerg. After the race Jonas said he started out full gas and got tired in the end, i wonder if that can play a part, maybe even for the better for Jonas, because he starts out a little "slower" to save power for the last climb...
The podcast is fantastic. However, it would greatly improve if chapter markers were included. As avid consumers of TDF content, many of us would appreciate the ability to quickly grasp the topics discussed in the video and easily navigate to those that haven't been covered extensively elsewhere, while skipping over repetitive ones, such as the crash. Thank you for producing such excellent content.
@29:25 It was 1980 when Bernard Hinault won the World Championship in Sallanches, France. @29:49 It was Stage 7 (Morzine-Avoriaz to Sallanches) of the 2005 Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré that Hincapie won (with Popovych in 2nd). Funny Trivia: In the top ten of that same stage, George, Lance and Levi were all subsequently disqualified for doping, whereas Popovych (on the same team as Lance and George) still has his 2nd place finish in the record books, along with fourth-place finisher Alexander Vinokourov. 😂 That's how stupid and non-sensical these DSQs are.
Thank you for actually saying the truth about numbers on a climbing stage. It doesn't matter who you are drafting off of its drafting. The most honest, simple explanation most commentators won't admit in their attempt to hype up the drama..!!
What do you think of a fine levied against those that cause these accidents on the tours. Also, there is gambling on the outcome of bike races, so maybe these are not “accidents”.
I think Vingo is going to attack Pogacar on Col de Loze. If Pogacar can't take time during ITT, Vingo will most likely win TDF. Vingo has been smashing ITT in the 3rd week. So it's a crucial time for Pogi. I'm sure he'll be attacking until stage 20, but like last year, Vingo will glue to his wheel, and let Pogi tire, then attack back. I'm hoping Hindley can recover from his crash, and be ready to use his 3rd-week consistency to fight for the podium.
Bottom line...right now Pogacar can't find the energy to pull away from Jonas.He is definitely "off".The remaining mountain stages better be drop time or Jonas keeps the jersey into Paris.
I really hope Sepp gives it a go in the TT. I’ve been rooting for this guy to get a GC opportunity for years. Would be a shame if this incident took it away from him
That so called fan / spectator actually smacked at Sepp Kuss, no bs no excuses. Just like the kid with Mussette placed & hooked Lance’s shifter to bring him down @ Luz Ardiden 2003… probably the same kid grown up & hating USA cyclists… I’m from the UK so neutral during this TDF
@@Hugo_Furst-x Pool would be the sport for you, but got to watch them beta blockers. Look up EPO in case you don't know how to spell it Erythropoietin.
To anyone Danish reading this - does Jorgen Leth still commentate on the races? I can imagine he'd be the one filling in the culture of some magnificent chateau they show. Just curious.
Jorgen Leth has no commentator job this year, he told Danish newspapers before the Tour. He is 86 years nowadays and not good on foot. Last year he commentated the Tour for Discovery from a studio. This year he will follow the Tour from his flat on Mallorca. Best greetings from Copenhagen.
I think that both of the teams believe that they have the stronger rider and so they’re both spending a a energy trying to put each other on the limit.
@@richardmamelok5571 yeah but this ultimately may have had a even bigger impact, after 2020 and the stupid woman with the sign, I have zero tolerance for fans reaching out & not looking at the oncoming peleton, this gave the breakaway 8 minutes & made both UAE & TJV have to go to alternate plans, it's hard to imagine that Tadej wouldn't have won this stage, whereas if Tadej had gotten that 3 second time advantage, Jonas would've been far more motivated to push it on the false front & push it on the descent, and would've been a favorite to win the stage, because the other 2 riders wouldn't have caught them before the descent & Jonas has been clearly descending better than Tadej (because of Tadej's wrist), Jonas rode far more conservatively when he had that 3 seconds in hand, so the effect on stage 14 is far more debatable, because there's no guarantee that both riders would have ridden the same.
Be prepared to hear the phrase: "We have another unfortunate incident with a spectator" each day after the time trial next week. It already has influenced this race big time and it has turned this Tour into a lottery and a stage for reruns of Mash. The Tour has become a figment of a real bike race. The organizers clearly live in some kind of romantic past and seem to have no real clue how modern society is. I have no wish to watch a race where I have to wait until the next rider hits the deck. If I want that I will watch the World Wrestling Federation. So after 35 years of watching live Tour de France coverage and other bike races, I am about to stop doing that. I have no wish to wait for another Gino Mader. I watched a young German ski downhill woman die live on tv once and I have no wish to become an unsuspected disaster tourist again. Have fun watching the show, but I will be doing something else. Pogacar will probably win this Tour because Jumbo-Visma has been deprived of the means to pull through their team tactics after what this lunatic did yesterday. It is another example in the growing list where this race has been sabotaged and riders have been deprived of a fair race. This is no fun anymore. This Tour is a circus and not a real bike race.
@@peha524 Maybe so but it will be on the edge of being profitable or not. However if they get a push, do not change helmets 🙂and hop on another bike like in cyclocross they will profit greatly. So maybe we will see Wout van Aert or Mathieu do this. And this will have an impact on the results for 1-3 place?? Very exciting to see the race tomorrow!
@@joepbronneberg3057 I'm not sure it's allowed to push the rider, if he cange bike volountarily. It only happens when it's because of crash or failure on the bike. The rider have to pull himself up in speed.
@@peha524It was ok for Roglic in the uphill TT Vs Geraint for a big dude to push him along with the wimpy mechanic to get him going again & he won - assisted
why not build tribunes or sth on special places where maybe some stars are, extra insights like watt numbers or something where ppl can compare themselfes with the riders and charge ppl with tickets there and use some of the money for fencing or sth?
The whole thing of camera usage is just bonkers, it’s the same as at concerts. You go there for potentially a once in a lifetime experience and then look at a small screen the whole for what will be badly captured footage that you likely will never look at more than once or twice
I would doubt it. Those sensors and bike computers all transmit data via Bluetooth connection. No way they could connect to the follow car, which could be hundreds of meters away
The idiot, who took the peloton down, was not a part of the drunken nuisance. Blame them for what they do, they are annoying, but they very rarely cause big crashes.
I think Jumbo have had enough success that they can now afford to rolll the dice with Kuss as a GC leader, its a no brainer that Kuss clearly has the engine to go for GC, its only over a month since he helped Roglic win the Giro, and now he's riding like this at the Tour, he's exceptionally talented.
Nah, his time trial is awful. Besides, the thing that makes JV great is that they have great riders who could be GC talent elsewhere- Kuss, Kruijswijk, kelderman, and others are the key difference makers like Porte was for Froome, Froome was for Wiggins, etc
@davidthgnomeful Maybe the Vuelta would suit Kuss well, he seems to support the heat well, more of a climbers GT than the others. Jumbo have success there also so lots of experience.
@@LETOUR7TIMESFRANCE That’s just more wishful thinking from the same Jonas fan boyz that said he was going to take that time back last weekend in the Alpes, but all he got was 1 measly second after the motos blocked Tadej from lighting him up again on the Joux Plane. We’ll see…
jumbo should send van aerte home. he isn’t following team orders. he should just ride for someone else next year. he wasted a spot on the roster, if he isn’t dedicated to winning the tour with jonas
I am trying to tell myself to cook it. BUT………many people there know exactly who this was. Just send me his name. I have to know how “these people can b so ignorant”From the helicopter shot u can see him FADE back stepping away once he realizes what he did. 😩
That guy fading back is not the same guy that caused the crash. He's dressed similarly, especially the hat, but it's not the same guy. The interference happened just a bit ahead of where that guy was standing. If watch multiple clips you'll see.
Two things Johan: 1) Vingegaard didn't attack because he couldn't. If he could, he would as he proved a day before when snatching three bonus seconds from Pogacar due to motorbike blockage, with no moral second thought - Vingegaard words and a proof he was also on the limit in stage 15. 2) Pogacar saying slope was not steep enough: that was just explained by his team mate Domen Novak on Slovenian TV: if slope is less then 10% then wind shield makes a difference and the guy who is following (Vingegaard) has advantage, so it's more difficult to make a difference. Above 10% apparently wind is less important as they go slower. One more thing: Pogacar seems a bit more tired: he couldn't hold the attack on stage 14 and on both stages it was obvious he suffered in the heat more than Vingegaard, drinking a lot and splashing water over his head etc. while Vingegaard hardly ever did. But Vingegaard was on limit too, otherwise he would have attacked, as explained, but he didn't. Which makes next two stages crucially advantageous for Pogacar: Tuesday ITT, explosive and short trial where Pogacar should win by min 20 seconds and stage 17 where there will be weather cooling and showers all along the way. So, Pogacar is still the favourite, imho.. #GoPogiGo
If you have something to say, have the balls to spit it out. Lance: please exit the stage now! WTF are you trying to say? Or, are you just too chickensh_t to speak clearly.
Pushing 7 watts per kilo, why, how? Put your tooth under the pillow. Long live the king of the Tour Lance Armstrong! If you want to come, come hard boys and girls. Aero socks are the key
Incredible how much knowledge this man has about cycling. He’s the Bill Bellichick of cycling.
We need a JB2 and Chris Horner collab asap!!!
Facts
@@nichelasgarcia2676 Horner knew and rode for Johan for maybe a year or three with radioshack, I'm sure Lance could find his number🇬🇧
@@lochlanncunningham4415 and Johan won more championships, 7 to Belichick's 6 --- of course Brady has 7, but Vuelta and Giro wins are like AFC/NFC title games, if you win the AFC title you have a shot at the Superbowl so he has 4 more of those.... But Belichick has him there he's been to 5 other title games
@@nichelasgarcia2676😮🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Johan with incredible insights into the time trial prep. Nothing compares to this out there.
Johann is the best in the buisness.Great chat!
Bruyneel giving the great insights as usual. Must be pumping his ketone-IQ…😂 I enjoy these more than listening to LA read advertisements for 37.5 out of 40 minutes.
Yeah, I rarely listen to LA anymore. Wait for this podcast though.
Word! Couldn't agree more. And of the remaining 2.5 minutes he spends 1 minute laughing about the "hilarious" pronunciation of French stage departures and finishes...
Love listening to Johann, he has so much knowledge! :-)
JB2 gives us such great insight. It really adds an educational aspect to the fan's point of view. Thank you so much. Here is an idea for JB2 after the tour or after the season. I would like to see Johan do an overview/insight on the tour during the Blue Train days with video and interviews from back in the day, Thank you again. Ride to the level of your smile.
Great insights ! Thank-you, love this podcast
Sometimes in alpine ski racing the TV is able to superimpose one racer on another to see how they compared in speed, line etc. It would cool to do that in the time trial tomorrow with TP and JV.
Oh my god! I just decided to tune in (after my The Move fix) and honestly, this is at another level. Now I have two shows that I MUST watch! Thank you JB and Johan!
Chapeau Wout Poels, súper domestique. Road for Gino Sunday ❤
This is a great insight, Johan is so knowledgeable!!
No mention of Pog’s salty lips on stage 14 which I think was the warning sign that stage 15 would be harder for him. I think he held the day well, but because of stage 14 could not put in those violent attacks.
I wondered about that too, then thought maybe it's zinc cream or something?
@@andrewphilips2457 I thought it might be something else, but it was on his lips right as he came across the finish line
Interesting, I didn't notice that and I am on hyper alert at all times for a Pogi tell. I thought he looked fresh as a daisy on 14
Jonas did say many mounths ago that Stage 17 is his stage with The Last 28 km climb
Jumbo-Visma and Vingegaard is simply missing Primoz Roglic, and I wonder why no one is talking about it.
Jonas was second in the ITT in Dauphiné, he lost to Mikkel Bjerg. After the race Jonas said he started out full gas and got tired in the end, i wonder if that can play a part, maybe even for the better for Jonas, because he starts out a little "slower" to save power for the last climb...
The podcast is fantastic. However, it would greatly improve if chapter markers were included. As avid consumers of TDF content, many of us would appreciate the ability to quickly grasp the topics discussed in the video and easily navigate to those that haven't been covered extensively elsewhere, while skipping over repetitive ones, such as the crash. Thank you for producing such excellent content.
34:03 does Bruyneel drop a huge burp?
Bruyneel thank you!
@29:25 It was 1980 when Bernard Hinault won the World Championship in Sallanches, France.
@29:49 It was Stage 7 (Morzine-Avoriaz to Sallanches) of the 2005 Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré that Hincapie won (with Popovych in 2nd).
Funny Trivia:
In the top ten of that same stage, George, Lance and Levi were all subsequently disqualified for doping, whereas Popovych (on the same team as Lance and George) still has his 2nd place finish in the record books, along with fourth-place finisher Alexander Vinokourov. 😂
That's how stupid and non-sensical these DSQs are.
Thank you for actually saying the truth about numbers on a climbing stage. It doesn't matter who you are drafting off of its drafting. The most honest, simple explanation most commentators won't admit in their attempt to hype up the drama..!!
Johan is absolutely the BEST!!
What do you think of a fine levied against those that cause these accidents on the tours. Also, there is gambling on the outcome of bike races, so maybe these are not “accidents”.
Wasn’t there a trivia question, “what is the original nickname of the tour”?
Yes and JB didn’t answer it. He repeated the question from a few days ago. I guess the ketone IQ effect is wearing off😅
thanks Guys!
I think Vingo is going to attack Pogacar on Col de Loze. If Pogacar can't take time during ITT, Vingo will most likely win TDF. Vingo has been smashing ITT in the 3rd week. So it's a crucial time for Pogi. I'm sure he'll be attacking until stage 20, but like last year, Vingo will glue to his wheel, and let Pogi tire, then attack back. I'm hoping Hindley can recover from his crash, and be ready to use his 3rd-week consistency to fight for the podium.
You guys pannecooking? That wasn’t yesterday’s trivia!
Bottom line...right now Pogacar can't find the energy to pull away from Jonas.He is definitely "off".The remaining mountain stages better be drop time or Jonas keeps the jersey into Paris.
Y’all mixed up the Trivia questions. Stage 14 was the original NICKNAME of the TDF.
Bruynell is helpful. Has experience
I would love to see those stacked teams and Remco in 2024
💛💛💛Jumbo!
I really hope Sepp gives it a go in the TT. I’ve been rooting for this guy to get a GC opportunity for years. Would be a shame if this incident took it away from him
That so called fan / spectator actually smacked at Sepp Kuss, no bs no excuses. Just like the kid with Mussette placed & hooked Lance’s shifter to bring him down @ Luz Ardiden 2003… probably the same kid grown up & hating USA cyclists… I’m from the UK so neutral during this TDF
JB actually got them right in the question ;)
I'm still traumatized by today's crash
I'm unclear as to why the other "super fans" attending don't dish out some instant justice on the cellphone moron
It would happen 2/3 times here
Best Director in the history of the Tour, JB Euro, JB that is!
it doesn’t take too much strategy when your star rider is on the best “juice”.
@@Hugo_Furst-x Pool would be the sport for you, but got to watch them beta blockers. Look up EPO in case you don't know how to spell it Erythropoietin.
wout should conserve in the time trial, too
To anyone Danish reading this - does Jorgen Leth still commentate on the races? I can imagine he'd be the one filling in the culture of some magnificent chateau they show. Just curious.
Jorgen Leth has no commentator job this year, he told Danish newspapers before the Tour. He is 86 years nowadays and not good on foot. Last year he commentated the Tour for Discovery from a studio. This year he will follow the Tour from his flat on Mallorca. Best greetings from Copenhagen.
I think that both of the teams believe that they have the stronger rider and so they’re both spending a a energy trying to put each other on the limit.
Sad that a moronic fan may have changed the ultimate outcome of 2023 Tour de France, because the GC teams couldn't go after the stage win
same issue with the motos yesterday getting in the way of Pagacar when he started attacked just to get a still photo.
They ruined the race last year and gutted the Panzerwagen of his final years in the sport.
@@richardmamelok5571 yeah but this ultimately may have had a even bigger impact, after 2020 and the stupid woman with the sign, I have zero tolerance for fans reaching out & not looking at the oncoming peleton, this gave the breakaway 8 minutes & made both UAE & TJV have to go to alternate plans, it's hard to imagine that Tadej wouldn't have won this stage, whereas if Tadej had gotten that 3 second time advantage, Jonas would've been far more motivated to push it on the false front & push it on the descent, and would've been a favorite to win the stage, because the other 2 riders wouldn't have caught them before the descent & Jonas has been clearly descending better than Tadej (because of Tadej's wrist), Jonas rode far more conservatively when he had that 3 seconds in hand, so the effect on stage 14 is far more debatable, because there's no guarantee that both riders would have ridden the same.
@@BronnyJamesBricksthis is a load of sh!t
I just wanna hang out at a bar with Johan 😂
Be prepared to hear the phrase: "We have another unfortunate incident with a spectator" each day after the time trial next week. It already has influenced this race big time and it has turned this Tour into a lottery and a stage for reruns of Mash. The Tour has become a figment of a real bike race. The organizers clearly live in some kind of romantic past and seem to have no real clue how modern society is. I have no wish to watch a race where I have to wait until the next rider hits the deck. If I want that I will watch the World Wrestling Federation. So after 35 years of watching live Tour de France coverage and other bike races, I am about to stop doing that. I have no wish to wait for another Gino Mader. I watched a young German ski downhill woman die live on tv once and I have no wish to become an unsuspected disaster tourist again. Have fun watching the show, but I will be doing something else. Pogacar will probably win this Tour because Jumbo-Visma has been deprived of the means to pull through their team tactics after what this lunatic did yesterday. It is another example in the growing list where this race has been sabotaged and riders have been deprived of a fair race. This is no fun anymore. This Tour is a circus and not a real bike race.
They are not the same frame; the NS takes a 35 mm tire, the Gs will take a 48 mm tire. Similar but not the same?
Just a question: is the course fenced off? And what about bike changes from time trial to uphill set-up like Roglic?
I think a bike change will take too long on such a short TT.
@@peha524 Maybe so but it will be on the edge of being profitable or not. However if they get a push, do not change helmets 🙂and hop on another bike like in cyclocross they will profit greatly. So maybe we will see Wout van Aert or Mathieu do this. And this will have an impact on the results for 1-3 place?? Very exciting to see the race tomorrow!
@@joepbronneberg3057 I'm not sure it's allowed to push the rider, if he cange bike volountarily. It only happens when it's because of crash or failure on the bike. The rider have to pull himself up in speed.
@@peha524It was ok for Roglic in the uphill TT Vs Geraint for a big dude to push him along with the wimpy mechanic to get him going again & he won - assisted
@@peha524 so we do see bike changes. However they come from the roof like an in race bike change. Wondering if Van Aert changes and the big 2!!??
why not build tribunes or sth on special places where maybe some stars are, extra insights like watt numbers or something where ppl can compare themselfes with the riders and charge ppl with tickets there and use some of the money for fencing or sth?
Cycling is the only sport where a random pubescent incel can completely change the outcome.
Remco? Remco can’t beat roglic. And roglic can’t beat either vingegaard or pogacar
Hah, well that first three places prediction didn't age well!
If it was pay to watch people would feel entitled to feel more apart of the race even more then they already do
Whoever loose time on TT will have to attack … gonna be great.
The whole thing of camera usage is just bonkers, it’s the same as at concerts. You go there for potentially a once in a lifetime experience and then look at a small screen the whole for what will be badly captured footage that you likely will never look at more than once or twice
Are the team directors getting live data from the riders power meters?
I would doubt it. Those sensors and bike computers all transmit data via Bluetooth connection. No way they could connect to the follow car, which could be hundreds of meters away
The idiot, who took the peloton down, was not a part of the drunken nuisance. Blame them for what they do, they are annoying, but they very rarely cause big crashes.
If this crash hadn’t happened Pools would have not probably won this race 🥴🤔
I think Jumbo have had enough success that they can now afford to rolll the dice with Kuss as a GC leader, its a no brainer that Kuss clearly has the engine to go for GC, its only over a month since he helped Roglic win the Giro, and now he's riding like this at the Tour, he's exceptionally talented.
Nah, his time trial is awful. Besides, the thing that makes JV great is that they have great riders who could be GC talent elsewhere- Kuss, Kruijswijk, kelderman, and others are the key difference makers like Porte was for Froome, Froome was for Wiggins, etc
not today. jonas was isolated
In what race?
@@5508Vanderdekken If I were Kuss, riding the way he is this year, I would be prioritising the opportunity to ride GC as a supported GC leader.
@davidthgnomeful Maybe the Vuelta would suit Kuss well, he seems to support the heat well, more of a climbers GT than the others. Jumbo have success there also so lots of experience.
34:02 😂😂😂😂
Remember stage 6 when Jonas tried to set up the big kill attack and Tadej lit him up for 30 seconds? Jonas does….
Jonas will get those 30 secondsi back in the ITT...EASY..Just like you read about
@@LETOUR7TIMESFRANCE That’s just more wishful thinking from the same Jonas fan boyz that said he was going to take that time back last weekend in the Alpes, but all he got was 1 measly second after the motos blocked Tadej from lighting him up again on the Joux Plane. We’ll see…
@@ShawnStradamus520 🤡
@@ShawnStradamus520 Pogashart fan...You were saying?🤔😆
@@LETOUR7TIMESFRANCE Chapeau Vingegooooooo! 🤣
Gino bartali
Primoz Roglic is undefeated in GC in 2023
jumbo should send van aerte home. he isn’t following team orders. he should just ride for someone else next year. he wasted a spot on the roster, if he isn’t dedicated to winning the tour with jonas
I am trying to tell myself to cook it. BUT………many people there know exactly who this was. Just send me his name. I have to know how “these people can b so ignorant”From the helicopter shot u can see him FADE back stepping away once he realizes what he did. 😩
That guy fading back is not the same guy that caused the crash. He's dressed similarly, especially the hat, but it's not the same guy. The interference happened just a bit ahead of where that guy was standing. If watch multiple clips you'll see.
Two things Johan:
1) Vingegaard didn't attack because he couldn't. If he could, he would as he proved a day before when snatching three bonus seconds from Pogacar due to motorbike blockage, with no moral second thought - Vingegaard words and a proof he was also on the limit in stage 15.
2) Pogacar saying slope was not steep enough: that was just explained by his team mate Domen Novak on Slovenian TV: if slope is less then 10% then wind shield makes a difference and the guy who is following (Vingegaard) has advantage, so it's more difficult to make a difference. Above 10% apparently wind is less important as they go slower.
One more thing: Pogacar seems a bit more tired: he couldn't hold the attack on stage 14 and on both stages it was obvious he suffered in the heat more than Vingegaard, drinking a lot and splashing water over his head etc. while Vingegaard hardly ever did. But Vingegaard was on limit too, otherwise he would have attacked, as explained, but he didn't.
Which makes next two stages crucially advantageous for Pogacar: Tuesday ITT, explosive and short trial where Pogacar should win by min 20 seconds and stage 17 where there will be weather cooling and showers all along the way.
So, Pogacar is still the favourite, imho..
#GoPogiGo
Just ban spectators around courses entirely. Won’t affect tdf financially .
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Reported as DISGRACEFUL, SHAMELESS CONTENT!
LANCE: PLEASE EXIT THE STAGE. NOW!
Go. Away.
Troll
If you have something to say, have the balls to spit it out. Lance: please exit the stage now! WTF are you trying to say? Or, are you just too chickensh_t to speak clearly.
Lol
Lance is an unredeemed, unrepentant fraud. If you embrace him, what does that say about you?
Where can I listen to outcomes? I only see outdated episodes
Pushing 7 watts per kilo, why, how? Put your tooth under the pillow. Long live the king of the Tour Lance Armstrong! If you want to come, come hard boys and girls. Aero socks are the key