World of Tanks || Waffentrager auf Pz. IV Heartbreak
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- Heavymn shows us some excellent gameplay in the T9 German tank destroyer the Waffentrager auf Pz. 4!
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Qb u live stream too late :( I can never watch it cause its always like 12:00pm
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Wow that was a crazy game. The most damage I've ever done is 7,593. That's just nuts and what a heartbreak GG Heavy. P.S. see you at the stream :)
midday? if not you mean am
Jarod Ruse
Your problem, not his.
I feel your pain heavyman.. Very nice game, cant wait till i get my wt auf pz VI too. :D Tho, he made 2 very big mistakes: first, at 5:30. If he saved that obj 704 he would have won the game. Seccond mistake at 7:36. he should definetely use that bush. But i dont take anything from him. great game. It is very frustrating when you have to do all the work, and when you do the smallest mistake you die. Also, i think the pressure was too high for him. poor guy :(
I have a heartbreak too, in my 13 90, mines, 8.11. did 4000 damage, tier X, 1st on damage from my team, 3rd from entire game replays.quickybaby.com/result.php?id=2786 pretty much the same feeling heavyman had... :/
All I can think is,"fuck artillery".
The end would be a surprise if hadn't spoiled it already in the title
well we know he will be killed at last but who might've thought that he'll be killed in such surprising way? I myself found it still really surprising.
That's like the biggest RNG troll I've ever seen: the arty which hit him at full speed behind a hill taking 95% of his hp. That event alone cost him this amazing game... Well played!!
It's not RNG since he was spotted there several times its only logical that both artillery were aimed at that spot for a while, imo its lucky he didnt die there with the time he sat still, both artillery shouldve killed him
***** Actually it is. M40/43 average damage is 1850 hitpoints. With his shot he rolled for only 1575. So thanks to RNG he was allowed to fight for few more minutes.
QB!!!! You can't keep saying "heartbreak" in the title! I would have actually cried at the end if I didn't know it was coming.
Great match, does highlight a major issue in WoT with the gun not being included in the collision model, he should not be able to turn in those streets with that gun, like the classic Kelly's Heroes where the Tiger cannot turn it's gun :)
Did anyone else notice the T71 drove into the water and drowned?
I like how non-germans pronounce `Waffenträger`
It'll always be the Waffle Tractor to me :P
u have to admit, hes doing well
Gracz Wotlk
Of course he does pronounce it perfectly, but it still sounds funny to me :)
Sichelschurke But the best is "Rheinmetall-Borsig-Waffenträger" :)
Sichelschurke He pronouces it more like a Swiss-german than a German but I enjoy it too!
OP ? I think after we saw what that arty did to him whit one shot we are done talking ...
I've seen a T92 1hit a Maus with fire.. Yes, the Pz. IV is op.
B Damien actually i have 17000 battles and yes there s another TD that does the same my Foch does that whit my camo crew
bryanFDNY
your Foch may do that with your camo crew, but the WT Pz IV can do that with only a 100% crew so.
bryanFDNY Hellcat
jer021297 ahn yeah didn't think about that nice one
loved the ammorack detonation of the IS-3
and that is why artillery ruins this game. You can be on your way to the best game you have ever had, and just out of nowhere arty smites you down like it was the hand of a god ..
Artillery needs to be removed.
No it doesnt
Ephim Andruscavage yes it does
Arty is what keeps people aware of what they are doing
No, they just need to do a hell lot less damage. French Arty is balanced imo. Except the autoloader but long reloads.
+Ephim Andruscavage Arty rewards bad players. Needs to be changed or removed.
Is the Waffentrager pz iv balanced hmmm.. lets see.
Pretty mobile.
128mm gun with 560 alpha high penetration low aiming time very accurate fast firing gun with a turret. A stupidly good camo rating where yiu cant spot it well at all until you get right next to it (100 meters or closer)and it gets 1600 with no armor. No its completely broken. If its retaining that camo rating and gun properties the health pool needs to be drastically reduced. To around 900-1150 hp. Look how close that chaffee had to get to him to spot him when he was almost completely in the open. And for those who say just fire HE at it. You can just derp HE Into the front of it with most guns. You have to aim for the gun shield. Which by the time you've loaded and aimed at he has probably already shot you for 560 and restealthed.
And HE shells bounce 50% of the time off the gun of the WT auf Pz IV - died so many times because of this
You are 1000% right....They have to nerf either:
A)That ridiculous camo rating
B) Its reload
C) Health pool
John Skout
I vould prefer health pool,... it 1.6k Hp on thing that does not have armor is too much,... 1k vould be ok 1,6k u can afford take hits, even on t9-t10 games that is ok on tanks that have some armor, but not this
Not sure if nerfing health would have that much of an impact on a stealthy TD. Sure it would be easier for Artys and other tanks to kill you, but the fact that you shoudn't be spotted in the first place kind of neglects the nerf. I think that nerfing the reload will reduce its DPM by a significant amount and it will allow heavies to not get chunked as easily as they did in this clip.
nfsfanAndrew You know what? The G.W. E100 a 100 somewhat ton artillery piece gets around 500 hp whilst this fly of a tank based on the tier IV or V (don't know for sure) panzer IV gets 1600. Sometimes the dev's choices sem just completely random.
10:42 that miss was expected. When a tank shows up on my still aim, i move (or wiggle) my reticle away and re-target then shoot. It feels like game mechanic doesn't register tanks as object until get aimed first. It's especially really crucial when playing arty.
Heavymn must of been devastated with that game. This game definitely puts my heartbreak games in perspective. Great game, really well played :)
I would unistall the game after this... that 2% damn wot.
There are few things in the game that are more satisfying than scoring a good solid hit on one of the Tragers with Artillery. Not because they're easy to damage, but because they are all so bloody dangerous.
That reload time + the great punchy 500 alpha and good camo net....quite a "balanced tank" !
That TD line is hateful. Sure it's paper, but you got to spot it first, to get through...
galen barlingen Yes Galen, they should.
That hurt watching the end! What a great game he had! Thanks for sharing that with us!! :)
Look this battle was amazing, did anybody pay attention to his shell loading? he was loading regular rounds all the time all the time, untill he finished his regular rounds it automaticly loaded the prem, this man is incredible player. If he had used his prem round he woul've not missed the multiple shots he missed and he woul've had won way before he died.
the tier 8, 9 and 10 of the new german td line are all over powered. they are the only tanks im aware of that can spot for themselves and remain unspotted within 300 meters and that is such a ridiculous advantage. its so easy for people to carry games in these things when they are against low health tanks they can remain unspotted and can put shot after shot after shot in to someone trying to find them without being seen. these things need a major nerf considering the borsig gets the 128mm top gun in the ferdi at stock with way better gun stats and the addition f a turret and it cant be spotted after firing behind a bush. im sorry but anyone ho says these things are balanced due to the lack of armour is talking shit. armour doesnt matter if you cant see the dam thing in the first place.
That's exactly what I always say but no one ever listens
if they nerf them they would have to nerf every other td as well or give them a shit ton of armour you complain about it but the pattons can also do similar jobs. and note that these have no armour and slow traverse on their guns if you have ever used the jackson similar to that its not very difficult to kill them and it really takes good players to use them since they can get killed with HE which will penetrate every time on the turret from tanks it gets put with. if you use one i bet you'll get pissed at the fact that it dies so easily also any tank can and will get games like this where the can dominate its how the tank is used as to how good it is. not saying there are no oped tanks but this line is so easy to kill its not that oped.
cuttlefish culler
i have played the jackson and the armour frontally going by the in game stats is supposed to be good until you look at tank inspector and find out its only on the part no one in the right mind shoots at. the thing that pisses me off most abut these things is the fact that they can corner fight with a 128 or 150 mm gun at tier 8. they can take 1 shot from an is-3 and put 2 in to him in return. let me ask you this have you ever successfully fought off 6 enemy tanks in an is-3 on the middle island in komarin with nothing but the help of an arty and a t-44 and i was left on 300 health with 5 kills. you then see the score is 12-3 you then look at the enemy team and see 1 borsig then you look around at the rest of your team and see that almost all of them are one shots for it. 1 of the tanks was afk in the cap circle and was killed instantly by arty when it was spotted and the other tank was a cromwell that was killed when it got spotted. this lone borsig then killed my 9 of my team in a row without being spotted. i ask the last remaining medium to rush at the same time as me he killed me instantly and while he was reloading the medium spotted him but he finished reloading and killed him arty took a shot missed then the borsig drove round he map and without being spotted killed the arty. this is the kind of bullshit that wouldnt have been possible in any other tanks and this is the reason why when i see a borsig i forget everything else in front of me and shoot the shit out of it.
the match i have talked about is not an isolated incident ive watched the is bull shit happen so many times since they were introduced.
"Shoot them with HE". RIGHT! I loaded an HE round for my JagdPanzer E100 and my teammates spotted a WT ausf. Pz IV. "OMG one shot" I thought. NOOOOPE. his Gun takes the hit and I only do 800.
i no the feeling. isu-152 did 300 damage with a he shell to a borsig when i hit its tracks
Pls give him 30K golds lol
I bet some very rich good guy people sent him gold :D
Very well played, but I do also feel the pain of the OP WT line. Especially when my OBJ 704 keeps getting nerfed. Simply puts it all out of perspective.
When has the obj 704 ever been nerfed?..
last patch that nerfed tds barely affected the obj 704 it really killed the foch though and you got to admit that the super high can pen anything with heat rounds it got was pretty unfair
Ave damage used to be 850, now it's down to 750 and now normally hits high 600's. Which is sad. Accuracy of of course junk.
Yevgeniy Zakharov you left out the part where they buffed all the t10 TDs RoF (ones that got the per shot took from 850 to 750) except the foch 155 effectively dropping its dpm even more...they beat the shit out of that tank for no real reason but yet let the WT E100 have a 2s delay between shots and a 6 shot clip to rack up 3360 average in 10 secs
Basically (I hope) it's just matter of time before they nerf the WT line. They are still fairly new tanks. But yes, it really puts the rest of is at a disadvantage :(
That was the most epic, most intense, and the saddest thing I've very seen.
Love the fact you're doing more and more videos lately. Go for it quicky
the entire WT line is so OP!!!!
i would have gaven him the win
No, you won't
THAT is some serious TD play with the WT! Bravo!
RIP...best play in youtube in my opinion
if i am the Pz4 i think i will leave the cap for a while and go around into another side(eastern edge in the map) and try have a flank
anyway, NICE PLAY
Wasn't a surprise it said heart break In the title
Great replay!
If I could interject my thoughts on the "OPness" of tanks in WoT, it could be argued that none of the tanks are overpowered, so long as they are within a reasonable average of statistics, eg.. high DPM vs low pen, or other such comparisons.
I feel that a tank can also be under-powered, such as the covenanter and crusader, who's guns are just shocking and the armour isn't much better, but if you find a tank you can penetrate, that 2 second reload can go a long way.
As for the WT4, yes, it has an AWESOME gun, and will probably see some nerfing in the near future (I predict its reload), but that is why I am grinding that line of german TD's now.
As you saw in the replay, this tank can really hand out the damage, but it is very situational. This map is great for this tank, as I think Sigfried Line would be, with a fair amount of soft cover and uneven terrain to scamper through if it gets spotted. However, if this tank gets caught out in the open or stuck in a close engagement, the lack of armour, and amount it will have to expose itself when coming round corners means that it is very difficult to play well unless the player knows what they are doing.
I guess what I think of OP tanks is that it is only really OP if the player knows how to use the tank to its advantages and stay out of trouble. But then that same rule also applies to UP tanks. We've all seen our heaviest armoured, heaviest alpha damage tank run out into a field and be the first dead, so IMO the main advantage a tank has is the skill of the player that is driving it!
Not much of an outcome, but I guess it puts some perspective on things.
Cheers,
CommanderCrumble
I know exactly how he feels. I had a game like this today in my T54 pulling off 7k damage and 7 kills. Just couldn't kill the T95 at the end. Nice game heavymn
I just picked up this tank, and unfortunately the stock 12.8cm is just terrible, specifically the shell velocity. Overall despite the rather painfully grind I still like it. It's interesting having to 'back up' to peek your turret around corners. The turret traverse speed is rather slow, but the ROF on the top gun 128 is great. All in all I think its well balanced. One thing about the repay, Heavy MN should have switched to the APCR to get that extra bit of Umpf needed. It might have made the difference, especially with the last two enemies being left on such low HP. cheers, Dennis
I think it's well balanced against the other tanks in it's line, you never feel too overmatched against one.
damn that shot got me by surprise
I bet the M40/M43 driver was cursing for months after missing the kill by 29 health with a 203mm gun
Last thing you want to see when you go around a corner is that ENORMOUS barrel of the wf pz 4
he messed up by the corners thing QB he did it to many he didnt confuse the wz i just knew he was waiting less then 5 secs of him doing that he could of tooken out T28 then flip floped while he still had time in cap and there he goes but he did do good
That first arty penetration was not a 'nice shot', it was a lucky shot which I assume was frustrating as all get out.
For all the people yelling OP: Ever played the tank yourself? This 0 armor td, means that you have to think when to shoot and when not. This takes skill. There is no possibility for you to just barge forward like the obj 704 did. You will not bounce a shot and you have to expect that everybody in the game just has an HE shell loaded for you. You, have 0 gunpression from the front, which causes that you have to plan your engagement. It is a good td, but no op and easely killable. Only driven by smart players this tank can be a pain in the ass.
Well played round.
Yup. I went in a Luchs platoon and the borsig was easy to carousel and damage. Also distracted a Tiger II and T28 prototype. And people are calling the German TDs op..
i think the crucial moment was when he bypass the E75 to reset the cap. If he took out the E75, the 704 will survive longer, and they could've win the battle
i would have probably rage quit after that XD
He played like a boss and showed exactly how awesome wt auf pz iv is. Its a pity however that he lost that 1. He diserved 2 win
I love the old gun sounds
i like how QB says waffentrager :P
MN stands for Minnesota, basically mini-canada in the US
I would scream in pain, if something like this happened to me :) Shame he did try to take that second shot on that T28 prot. before he was shot by arty. Still it was freaking monstrous game.
But imo this WT is the strongest TD in German TD lines, unlike the WT E100 you can just consistently put damage on your enemies, not six hit wonder on a ~minute cooldown and you don't tend to get as much attention as the E100 either. It's OP -you can rip everything of your tier apart in one on one close range combat (ofc excl. autoloaders and HE firing ppl), you can hold flanks with little support, you can just carry, carry, carry and carry. You can camp, you can flank, I just love it to bits, since the "skill ceiling" of this thing is extremely high.
ur right this is the best on yet
Dude, you just can't believe how cool it sounds for german folks if you say Waffenträger :P Sounds pretty awesome ! Love your vids, great work hope you enjoy it too
1:06 when the Waffentrager auf Pz.IV shoots at a Tiger, he's basically... a traitor.
Those last 2 damage rolls really screwed him up, both getting away on low HP, but that's typical in WoT lately
I could be wrong, but the MN in both the players names, most likely stands for "Minnesota"
No gold for him?
It isn t the Prototype Version of the T28!
@10:40 he spots the T28 prot from behind an opaque bush. How is that possible? The bush is hiding him but also should prevent him to spot!
extremely nice played! enjoyed every minute and hoped he would do it
QB are you planing to do M48 review? I'd really like to know what you think about it
Showcase why the spotting mechanism is broken, wz could see him before he could see the wz, rendering him unable to react at all.
Even with low armour, it's OP. They should take the nerf bat to some of the TD's on this line. Perhaps reduce rate of fire at least.
It was a good game - don't get me wrong - but he had 3-ish misplays. 1) He sat too long trying to get a second shot on the T28 proto right before arty hit him. His shot was panicked anyway and wasn't worth trying to sit there for. 2) when he was rounding corners, he didn't keep his gun pointed where he expected the enemy to be, and that made for a few bad shots towards the end in the city. 3) at the end when he nailed the T28 and then went unspotted again, he should have went back to where he was because the WZ and T28 were expecting him to poke that corner, so he should have juked them and went back.
Poor poor poor heavy... GG man GG! You gave it your best
1.42 "Oooooo..... ¡holy shit!"
Hey QB what's the best money-making premium tank? I know it's partly a matter of opinion and playstyle, but what's your opinion? Or what's the one that usually makes the most?
I bought an IS-6 but the repair and ammo costs are so high. And if I need to fire off a few premium rounds and use some consumables I sometimes even make a loss.
Any good tier 5/6 can make over 10-20k. With missions, more. Haven't gotten high tier premium tanks yet, so I'm still wondering which is best. Just don't get hurt to much so the repair cost goes down and money goes up.
Should always load 2-4 HE for when stuff like the WZ-120 is left on 25 health, guaranteed kill and splash regardless of where it hits.
Saw this 8 months ago and still wp
I think the enemy team would have gone mad at that reckless arty. He nearly blew the game.
Am I the only one who nearly cheered when arty nailed him?
Yes you were.
really nice replay, i have this tank and i would recomend to anyone to start this german td line. I havent had such games with it but i enjoyed it very much. It a great tank and i think the low armor balances the camo and cannon. I've had games where i get spoted really fast and die immidiatelly, before i can eve pull back. Ding is not an option on this...plus arty penetrates almost everytime.
This is a good example why arty is too op and should be nerfed ;(
Manne Seppo Arty has been nerfed a lot already. A couple of years back it was much more painful. The arty should be modified a bit perhaps with more accuracy and less damage because it is basically a RNG unit now. Either you get lucky and hit hard or miss by a lightyear. I personally don't enjoy playing arty. It is boring at best...
Kotetsu51 Turn arty into more of an indirect fire TD you mean?.......I could live with that.
No
He had 1 min before the base would have been capped, chose to ignore his teammate, selfish bastard deserves the "heartbreak"
Really hurts to watch the end, but he could have done quite a few things better. Starting with his choice of camo, it looks fucking ugly, but yea thats not the main point. But for example he had all the time to reset the cap and could have just killed the E75 and saved the Obj 704, that allone would have made the difference in this game. Also he allways pretty much acted far to obvious. Instead of taking a different route arround or just trick his enemies, he just drove off while he was spotted to the next corner and just poked there. While his enemies knew exactly what he was going to do, he could not predict where the 2 in the cap would be standing. If he would have just gone further arround or just came back to the corner and finished the T28 first, he could have still pulled that through.
I expect his death at this exact moment:D it was no surprise...anyway very good battle
yes!!! a QuickTank review of the WZ 111 1-4, my favorite tank in the game, it's really fast for a heavy, it has a great gun and pretty good armor!! i
wow i cried a little for heavy, but then i had a drink and went back to being a man.
I'm happy you will do a WZ-111 review
you rock dude but what you could improve is getting a proper intro just a recommandation though
WOW! This match was absolutely fantastic!!!!!!!!!!
Really good replay with a really good TD and QB you should get the tier two t18 because its so fun and op
276 mm standard penn still caries 10 peem rounds .... he was mostly lucky and did some stupid mistakes
Yes ! And i am really surprised of all the comments of this video. This game is total unskill (positionning and shot on the T28s, brain on the wz120) of the player, the tank did almost everything.
B Damien
lol, yeah, because you are not making any mistakes in a fucking 1v6 situation. Smartass
All things considered, he played it pretty well. If he had tighten things up a bit when cornering he might have gotten a different result, but who knows.
Marty Vašina
I never shot the Mantlet of a T28 Prot, I never stay not covered when i know i have arty spotting me, i never show my tank on the side people wait me too. I could speak about tons of other mistake of the player on this very game.... Am kinda better than this player, yes. Maybe because i dont play that much OP tanks.
B Damien
dude, seriously. I am an unicum player myself and everybody makes mistakes. Well he may not be unicum too, but he still has to be good to pull off 11k dmg.. doesnt matter what tank is he driving, but tier 9 makes it even more impressive. Just post here some gameplay with 10k plus dmg with tier 9, i will analyse it and tell you your mistakes. This is just fucking smartass talking, sure he did some bad decisions, but he was probably under lot of pressure, I bet he doesnt have games like that very often. So stop bitching and appreciate his performance, I think it was bloody good and doesnt deserve any hate.
Look how little effort the first 6000 damage took..
Last game I had like that was in 6.0 or 6.1 when my t30 was a heavy tank
i think you should this man some GOLD!
How do you move the camera like that in the end?
Did the new Breaking of blocks not get added yet?
I like these firing platforms.
My XML isn't working like his. It says bad token. I've activated it and the view range works but what should I do?
mn stands for Minnesota?
its such a great not op tank
hi
Whitlee Jo
do you play
no
i must say i expected that from the WZ i would do the same this was so kind of Teamwork lol
Best replay ever! I was so hopefully that he would win
Thats not heartbreak...thats stroke......
2:38 wtf is happening to QB's nose ?
Well, guess what - we DID see the end coming. It would help if you didn't call the videos heartbreak. ;)
It's so greaT how not-germans "Waffenträger auf Pz. IV" pronounce :D I like it :)
he can consider himself lucky, that Wz-120 is such a goddamn scrub
Justice. Thx to WZ120. The PzIV like all the WTs is absolutely, insanely OP... And some times in the video we can see basic mistakes which prove that he is not an insanely good player. its justice that after all this OP and this luck he dies because of too much arrogance.
Should have wait a way more and circling the church but he wanted to endthis too fast imo
QB, can you please do a Tiger II review?
Äthe waffenträger is has an op gun but it's the armor that balance it also it has good camo rating
He should have helped the object 704 and kill that e75. Instead he tunnel vision ed for the cap. There was still 80 seconds before cap was done.
where do they store the amunition on this tank (or in the WT E-100)
***** I guess in reality there would have been some ammo carrier vehicle (or perhaps just a truck) around and the Loader woud manually take the ammunition from there. Or there is some ammo rack in the tank under the turret.