The reason why in Timeranger, the dad is a bit stern is because it's japanese tradition. They need to be more of a leader than a father for their name. In Time Force, the dad is a bit more caring. I like how they showed the family views very differently but clearly for each country.
As it is with like every other Tokusatsu show that was written by Toshiki Inoue. That guys loves to write worlds of assholes in the shows that he was involved in on his resume.
Chris Cannon I don't remember much about time force because it's been so long since it originally aired but one think I remember very well was the tone being darker and that awesome theme song!
Time Force: A dad that only wants the better for his son, but doesnt undertands him Timeranger; A father doesnt care about on his son, only his business
Yeah, but it make sense for a lot of young japanese children-teens commonly live with parents actually have strict life. I do like Time force dad for more inspiring and positive as dark as the series it can get. But Timeranger IS as REAL as it can get with parenting value issues in japan. Also wanna bet considering this IS a fan translation. Japanese grammar and sentence structure could just be as broad and Vague to English subtitle.
Actually, in TimeRanger, the father does care about him. He does appear like he doesn’t care but he does show sympathy towards him ((but in a little cold way lol))
Human can actually recognize someone with just a look of their eye. It's hard but not impossible. Your brain will do that unconscious and will give you a tingling sense when it recognize something familiar and due to the current pandemic that happened alot to me since nearly everyone wear a mask.
They could easily change the outlook of the suits if they just show the inside of the helmets more often, show it feeding the rangers info like it's implied and shown in certain seasons, have the rangers mention their power percentages in battles like they did in RPM, give us a reason why the rangers don't use their finishers from the start...... I mean I'm just a fan and I can think of this stuff, It makes me mad how dumbed down Power rangers is when it can easily be really great.
Time Force may have borrowed almost every element from TimeRanger, but you have to admit, they did a very good job emulating those elements. Power Rangers is known for dulling down their Sentai counterparts, but in this case, the adaptation was quite faithful to the source material, and made for one of the best "Power Ranger" seasons to date.
I'd say it's mostly the blame on bad direction and poor takes on filming the episode. There's an old saying, "Good direction can save a bad script! Bad direction can kill a good script!"
And also, it's not just Power Rangers that had to suffer from bad writing and poor direction in some of the episodes of each season, it's like that with every other TV show and movie from time-to-time. Hell, even Super Sentai and Kamen Rider tends to fall into victims of bad writing and terrible directions of their episodes and movies. Look at the Super Hero Taisen movies, Kamen Rider Wizard, Kamen Rider Ghost, Goseiger vs. Shinkenger or even Kyoryuger vs. Go-Busters for examples. Yeah, you'll noticed that there were some signs of bad writing and poor direction in other Tokusatsu projects as well.
I like how in the Japanese version the standard soldiers have seemingly real revolvers where in the American they have weird plastic toy weapons. Yet the culture around guns are very different between the two countries. Easy gun ownership in the United states vs strict in Japan. Yet in America they are much more strict on depictions of guns in kids media than Japan is. Just something I find strange.
Think it's just the heavier concern placed on what content children can consume in America. Not that that's necessarily a good thing. Sometimes I think it can go too far.
2:42 Timeforce did a very well job conveying the emotion of Wes struggling to stand up while Timeranger kept the detail of the damaged helmet/visor, really loved both versions!
I mess seeing helmet destruction in sentai. The last time we had that was in Go-Busters, Go-Onger with Go-On Red's helmet getting smashed in the finale and Gekiranger, sadly.
The best thing about this is how much detail went into recreating this scene. Obviously the timeranger scenes took place in a more urban business setting but the positioning of the actors and camera movements are spot on. While it is true that some scenes translate poorly(like the sudden day to night switch during the first Quantum/Time Fire morph) the look of love and care that went into doing this scene justice is amazing.
I have to imagine that a large part of it was so that they could reuse as much of the Japanese footage as possible. Can't use footage of the industrial park if you set your Western cast in the woods. Besides, that also takes a lot of the planning and guesswork about which angles to use. Ain't got time to re-invent the wheel- we got a production schedule to keep!
There so different, PR focuses so much more on the relationship between Wes and his dad, whereas the Japanese counterpart is more about the corporate vs individual. Interesting.
timeranger would still focus on their relationship as the series went on, but tatsuya's dad was a lot more stubborn than Mr. collins. timeranger also gave the character a tragic backstory, so you can kind of understand how he ended up the way he did
@@garretdrake2347 Timeranger indeed focused on that aspect(relationship between father and son), but that is not the main thing. Time Force focused a lot on Wes's growth and transition, but time ranger did not specifically focus on one thing but the whole team. The transition of the whole team from anxiety, depression to a kind of positive team. Also, the main protagonist in time ranger is better than Ransik. Captain Ryuya charged anything like a time-travel machine, history editor, time jets, time-shadow...this kind of time-master may fit the element of time way better. A hatred monster like Ransik is indeed enjoyable to watch, but he did not fit the element of time that well.
@@garretdrake2347 Yeah. I think the one thing Zeus also was getting at is how it is also about how things different in many ways between both series, even as the similarities are also VERY present.
You can really see the difference of cultural styles at 3:36 The US relies heavily on shot reverse shot between dialogue of characters whilst the Japanese display a full body performance, no doubt influenced by Kabuki theatre.
Good obervation as you said. Having studie japanese and amarican styles of film, here in the west we tend to react more to the expresions and the emotions displayed in the face of the character, creating more conection with the audicence, while there the posture, the, the situacion, the context, and the actors movement and the way they act depending on the situacion help to enter their emotion, definitelly displaying more psysicall actions to characterize people
I do love the Western father son talk better. Its just more concise especially while his friends are in danger and it shows that urgency. He really emphasizes what makes him an individual and a man(person) in choosing their own path, not needing some forced path. I get the Japanese one had quite a few more layers especially with the emphasize on trying to make defense a business for rich people. But we’ve got all that afterwards as a solemn note between family, showing that the Western Rangers doesn’t always have to end on happy notes or a joke
Well, I'd say it's tied between RPM and Ninja Storm and to an extant Dino Thunder and SPD. But yeah, in-terms of improvement in writing and acting of the past classic Saban-era seasons, yeah, Time Force was a huge step-up at the time.
They do add in some scenes with the suits too, although if they had the suits to add extra scenes why didn't they just do the whole show with their own scenes
I like how people compare the scene with the dads and used to say time force was better but I think that time force gave the story between the father a loving but unable to understand each other while time ranger makes it the more realistic and devastating how a business can easily make you forget the people whose your supposed to love and grating a great distance between what the father wants and what the son chose but I like both of the series because of the different from the show
I kinda like the more ragged detail on the Japanese helmet more. But I can appreciate the sentiment in both scenes. A son is just trying to stand up as his own man, on his own path. This almost makes me want to watch Time Force again.
@@estebanrl.2201 Apples and Oranges, honestly. Frankly, direct comparison of those two shows is a waste of time, due to just how much is different between the two.
It's a fight between this, in space, or lost galaxy... but I think Power Rangers in Space wins because of the badass psycho rangers... like you will never forget them.
Completamente de acuerdo!!! El Sentai genial y su contraparte ranger igual con un villano tan complejo como Ransik al cual NO PUDIERON VENCER. Dios los bendiga!!! Saiop!!!
Yeah but in time force they rarely did their own scenes with the suits so when they did that bit they had to make a suit so doing the battle damage would have been expensive and cost them time
@@kiwiangeldust6912 Ungrateful? What shoud sentai fans be grateful for? For the fact that the Sentai shows can never air anywhere outside of Japan even if they were insanely popular in many countries way before Haim Saban got his hands on Zyuranger? Well, thank you, Saban.
Super Sentai at that time is like J-Drama with Superheroes. They get wounded, hurt, injured and asses kicked, most even have deaths in them; and not the fade away kind of death, the kind where they get gunned down, stabbed, exploded and mortally wounded. They pull no punches when a Sentai member gets killed, they get mercilessly murdered.
I think this has less to do with objective quality and more with cultural differences. BUT, it's a testament to how amazingly they adapted the show to the US audience, so bonus points!
Japan show's blood even in kid cartoons. Anime? Idk. They make sexual jokes without hiding it in kid cartoons as well. Like they just don't give a fuck.
This one asked a while back. Never had the chance to finish working on it because the sub group didn't get to this point in subbing the series. But finally they did. So this is one that I wanted to upload for a while and the next comparison will be the one that was the most demanded for the longest time. I know Sentai fans will be asking why didn't I continue to show the rest of the Timeranger episode. Well that's for the next comparison so be patient :) Episodes Used: Power Rangers Time Force Episode 12 "Worlds Apart" Mirai Sentai Timeranger Case File 28 "A Time of Reunion"
I actually kind of liked this comparison. This definitely is a primary example that Power Rangers doesn't really have to be like a carbon-copy "note-for-note translation" of the Sentai most of the time, but just a straight-up adaptation of the Sentai.
3:30 - 4:55 The relationship difference between Time Force and Time Ranger is night and day. Wes and his father clearly do care for one another but their life choices are what cause them to take different paths in what's right for them and for each other. Wes is a Ranger because he's making his own life choices instead of going with the flow in life. However, his father thinks Wes should be like him in order for him to step up and take hold of their family's company and views in making a profit. But it isn't until much later in the series where Wes's father finally accepts his son's wishes and lets him be a Time Force Ranger. Tatsuya's dad on the other hand seems extremely strict and is deadset for Tatsuya to focus on the company as whole instead of goofing with his friends. When he saw Tatsuya was one of the Time Ranger he wasn't just shocked, he was angry and even disappointed in Tatsuya from the way he's speaking with him. Now correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't seen the Super Sentai Time Ranger as I can't find it on TH-cam but i'd assume the relationship between Tatsuya and his father relationship's only sours as the series goes on as his father still disapproves of him being apart of the Time Rangers. Correct if I'm wrong because I am curious to know if I'm wrong.
In Timeranger, Everyone expects him to follow in his dad’s footsteps but Tatsuya wants to known to the world as Asami Tatsuya not just the head of the Asami corporation. His father wants him to be a businessman and follow in his footsteps and not stay a timeranger as he wants him to not get hurt, but when Tatsuya finally snaps, Mr Asami understands that Tatsuya wants nothing to do with the company and therefore doesn’t help him until he realizes that Tatsuya would do anything to save his dad even tho he hates him. By the end, Mr Asami accepts Tatsuya and the odd jobs company he wants to make called Tomorrow Research. A really interesting dynamic that’s very different in Time Force
The red super sentai looks like he's saying "Oh shit they found out my secret" whereas the red ranger like "Yo I'm the red ranger what up." lol. Also look at there freaking gun comparison.. he's using a freaking nerf gun....
While the Silver Guardians are using lazer guns(to probably tone them down for children), their Japanese counterparts are using revolvers. Yet, earlier in Time Force some guy pointed a revolver at Ransik?
+Thomas Nevitt I know that even in Japan they still can be a little bit concerned for the kids. Next thing you know I've heard rumors that some people in charge of subbing the shows in English like TV Nihon would actually try adding some cursing in some lines just to make some of the shows look even more mature for English speaking audiences.
Ranger series tend to stray away from the original Sentai story, and I was very impressed by the similarities between the two series. I could say for certainty that Time Force is a legit american adaptation of Timeranger.
Power Rangers always want to be different from the sentai because if they just stay close to the original, it would be a dub. Timeranger is a really hard season to adapt so using a bunch of the elements while adding original stuff to it was necessary. Time Force and Timeranger are very similar but their differences make them stand out
Man this brings back memories, I had this episode on VHS and I thought Eric or the Quantum Ranger was badass, I remember I'd always call myself Eric and I remember with my toy guns I'd always do that thing whenever he was smacking his gun against his hand.
Both guns exist in both versions, but in Time Force the gun TimeRed uses wasn't introduced yet as this happened much earlier in Time Force than it did in Timeranger.
My favorite moments from both Time Force & Timeranger: Time Force: - The moment of truth between Wes & his father (after the monster wrecked Wes's helmet) - Eric becomes Quantum Ranger - Eric gains the Mega Battle Armor - The Final Battle (I'm glad Eric didn't die here) - Wes joins the Silver Guardians as the captain, with Eric as his partner Timeranger: - The moment of truth between Tatsuya & his father (after the monster wrecked Tatsuya's helmet) - Naoto becomes Time Fire - Ayase made up his mind to fight his disease - Gien betrays Dolnero - The Final Battle (kinda sad that Naoto die here)
That's because the technology wasn't advanced at that time, hello?! Timeranger came out in 2000. Time Force in 2001. We didn't have all that fancy, smancy high-tech gadgets back in the early 2000's.
Both these scenes are equally good. I like the Sentai version because the dad seems caring yet firm with his son, while also shocked at the fact his son is a Ranger. But the American version is also great too because Wes’ father retains that same caring firmness we see here in Sentai, only he’s more shocked because his son chose a different path than was set for him. Also the way Wes stands up to his Dad owns him bonus points.
Time Rangers is my favorite series overall, nothing wrong with other series, but I think it had one of the best (if not the best) main villain ever, Vernon Wells did an amazing job. Considering the target audience, it was a pretty dark series and tackled some problematic topics like war collateral casualties, racism and xenophobia
I was re-watching “Worlds Apart” and right before Eric asks to be the head of star Silver Guardians, they’re trying to figure out how they can get fire power as good as the rangers, someone says to Wes’ dad “your son’s a ranger, he can help us” and he responds “leave my son out of this” so why is it that he’s shocked when Wes he met breaks? He literally already knew his son was a ranger earlier in the episode 😤
Fucking tragic love story. You dont know how much I hated to see Jen leave. Good thing she returned in Wild Force tho. It was a nice reunion with timeforce.
(This is a response for those that I have received concerning my channel and the content for which I am uploading). I happy that you have concern as to the material I upload is a danger to my channel. I respect your point of view where you're going with this. I have taken the liberty of talking with a few circles of people who know about what I am doing on the channel. They respect what I do but wouldn't do what I am doing because they have a different take. I have done lots of research and have already have some content blocked mostly because of the copyright laws in certain regions of the world. I am not doing this material for paid content of any kind. I am doing this as a fan for both shows. I already understand that uploading the videos I am showing is of of some concern to Toei, Bandai, Saban, etc. I already knew about the dangers of uploading these kinds of content years ago before I made this channel. But here's the one thing I will point out and have concern to those that do upload full episodes of Tokusatu's of any kind on TH-cam. Those have a much higher risk of getting their channels taken down by certain companies but may not because in the regions those people uploading the content is different that it would be where I am from. Saban Entertainment and other companies don't want me to show certain videos which is why they block some of my content only in some regions. I have some ideas already what content Saban, Toei, and others will block and I am respecting their wishes and upload them somewhere else (which is why I made the Dailymotion account). Music, Videos, and other kinds of Entertainment is something we all need to be wary of and respect those that feel about fair use content. Bottomline I am happy and respect your concern as for the content I am uploading onto TH-cam. Best of wishes. ~rangersentaiguy
Uh...dude, this is not the full episode, okay?! This is just a basic comparison to how the sentai footage were edited by the production crew back in 2001. If you wanna watch the full episode, just google search the damn season for all the episodes either on Kisscartoon or any other streaming site. Stop being such a crybaby!!!
Those were different times back then because I didn't know about much about the copyright laws within YT and with mostly Toei and Saban. If this is going to be said to me are you and others will be saying that to others that also post PR and Sentai vids on YT as well. There's are others that post a number of PR clips and other Tokusatus from different seasons (ignoring Neo-Saban channel because that's run by Saban). I know there's a number of people that have posted these kinds of clips and I don't see many others getting the same treatment. I am not saying your wrong for pointing me out I'm asking if others will be targetted as well if this keeps up?
How the Hell can people just see The Red Rangers eyes and immediately know who it is But Clark Kent can show most of his face and put on some glasses and he's unrecognizable lol
Timeranger is a great sentai be honest I am not a fan of power rangers but this does look close to timeranger but I would watch the power rangers version anytime soon 👍
love how they stay true even to the outfits of them, really nice, no wonder this show was so good love the Sentai versions speech, how he sees a different possibility than the company, a different future just said it so well
the real kicker about this show is how they still seamlessly reused the Japanese footage i always knew that some was reused but this shows just how much got reused
Despite Power rangers mostly using the Japanese footage for the fighting and all, I have to give credit for the good writing and acting when they were not in ranger forms💪🏻💪🏻
If only the mother of Wes appeared. Wes' dad: Wes! Son! If you just let me explain, you'd understand you're talking about your nonsense... Wes: No. Ever since you and mom split. All my life, I've done what YOU only wanted me to do. Well no more. No I'm gonna control my own future... without you. Wes' dad: Wesley I tried. But I just don't understand you. Wes: If mom was around, you'd start listening to what she has to say.
The reason why in Timeranger, the dad is a bit stern is because it's japanese tradition. They need to be more of a leader than a father for their name. In Time Force, the dad is a bit more caring. I like how they showed the family views very differently but clearly for each country.
In some western families, however, you can get fathers who are quite stern and who are more leaders than fathers.
@@TheFLAMEXD So true, but it's very common in Japanese tradition than anything.
Power rangers was the only exception that I'd say localization or adaptation done right.
Thats a super toxic way to be, but yes it is accurate to Japanese life. I hate that it is that way, but still appreciate the accuracy.
@@charmygreen665 the most healthy way to raise kids is to be caring and gentle to them and teach them to do same to others people
Damn dads recognized it was their sons with a single crack of their visors and over 50 feet away.
... to be fair the sentai had a giant ass hole
As it is with like every other Tokusatsu show that was written by Toshiki Inoue. That guys loves to write worlds of assholes in the shows that he was involved in on his resume.
The hole was roughly the same. Power Rangers used black makeup that gave the impression that it was a much smaller crack.
Dad-o-Vision!!!
It's possible
I never realized how well written Time force was, it was definitely one of the darkest shows, sadly we don't get that in power rangers anymore.
Chris Cannon well we about to habe a movie about power rangers.
Yeah, hopefully there will be blood.
Chris Cannon surprisingly, I can't help but agree, my favourite series was SPD and Dino thunder, but I agree this series kinda cool!
Chris Cannon I don't remember much about time force because it's been so long since it originally aired but one think I remember very well was the tone being darker and that awesome theme song!
A follow disappointed fan.
Time Force: A dad that only wants the better for his son, but doesnt undertands him
Timeranger; A father doesnt care about on his son, only his business
Thanks for giving me a reason why I love Time Force more than Timeranger.
Ye and im Amelia
@@TheSHIELDCap I think both did amazingly well considering saban producers start to suck after wild force.
Yeah, but it make sense for a lot of young japanese children-teens commonly live with parents actually have strict life. I do like Time force dad for more inspiring and positive as dark as the series it can get. But Timeranger IS as REAL as it can get with parenting value issues in japan. Also wanna bet considering this IS a fan translation. Japanese grammar and sentence structure could just be as broad and Vague to English subtitle.
Actually, in TimeRanger, the father does care about him. He does appear like he doesn’t care but he does show sympathy towards him ((but in a little cold way lol))
It still amazes me 21 years later how Eric and Mr. Collins immediately recognized Wes just from a cracked visor despite his face covered in dirt.
I was just thinking that watching the clip. And the Dad in the car was like 50 yards away what kind of telescopic vision does he possess?
At least appreciate the fact, that they recognized Wes, you know how dumb the contrivances can get, when it comes to superheroes.
Superman wears glasses: Hey Clark Kent. Gonna write a story on Superman today?
Power Ranger has 1 crack in his helmet: OMG, it's YOU!
Human can actually recognize someone with just a look of their eye. It's hard but not impossible.
Your brain will do that unconscious and will give you a tingling sense when it recognize something familiar and due to the current pandemic that happened alot to me since nearly everyone wear a mask.
These guys would recognize Batman and specially Robin immediately.
I just love scenes like this. They really show the technology that goes into the suits in universe proving that they aren't just "spandex"
They could easily change the outlook of the suits if they just show the inside of the helmets more often, show it feeding the rangers info like it's implied and shown in certain seasons, have the rangers mention their power percentages in battles like they did in RPM, give us a reason why the rangers don't use their finishers from the start...... I mean I'm just a fan and I can think of this stuff, It makes me mad how dumbed down Power rangers is when it can easily be really great.
Technically helmets(for heads)and suits(for bodies) are two different things. And the helmets are made of plastic.
well, just in the japanese version.
*plastic(being that it's just the helmet)!
y2k890 The running joke of dr K getting pissed whenever someone called the suits spandex in rpm was my favorite part.
Time Force may have borrowed almost every element from TimeRanger, but you have to admit, they did a very good job emulating those elements. Power Rangers is known for dulling down their Sentai counterparts, but in this case, the adaptation was quite faithful to the source material, and made for one of the best "Power Ranger" seasons to date.
gonna say that the actor for the father character in the power rangers version......... was horrific
I'd say it's mostly the blame on bad direction and poor takes on filming the episode. There's an old saying, "Good direction can save a bad script! Bad direction can kill a good script!"
And also, it's not just Power Rangers that had to suffer from bad writing and poor direction in some of the episodes of each season, it's like that with every other TV show and movie from time-to-time. Hell, even Super Sentai and Kamen Rider tends to fall into victims of bad writing and terrible directions of their episodes and movies. Look at the Super Hero Taisen movies, Kamen Rider Wizard, Kamen Rider Ghost, Goseiger vs. Shinkenger or even Kyoryuger vs. Go-Busters for examples. Yeah, you'll noticed that there were some signs of bad writing and poor direction in other Tokusatsu projects as well.
Well after seeing more people than usual around it, I had no other choice, but to name Time Force my favorite.
Obessive, well your account name makes sense to me now.
The fact they spliced locations together so well is an art form
I was just appreciating the same thing
I like how in the Japanese version the standard soldiers have seemingly real revolvers where in the American they have weird plastic toy weapons. Yet the culture around guns are very different between the two countries. Easy gun ownership in the United states vs strict in Japan. Yet in America they are much more strict on depictions of guns in kids media than Japan is. Just something I find strange.
Maybe because since it's already hard to own guns the media has more lax to depict them on kids media, and vice versa.
Think it's just the heavier concern placed on what content children can consume in America. Not that that's necessarily a good thing. Sometimes I think it can go too far.
I thought they were new Zealand based
@@GRAVITYMORE Yea same
@@GRAVITYMORE power rangers only starts to film in new zealand from disney era, meaning starting from ninja storm
We seriously need to some more battle-damaged Ranger suits. They look so badass. Makes you remember they are fighting for their lives every episode.
2:42 Timeforce did a very well job conveying the emotion of Wes struggling to stand up while Timeranger kept the detail of the damaged helmet/visor, really loved both versions!
So emotion vs. damage effects? Sounds like a fair comparison.
I love how even the broken helmet looks better on the japanese version.
I mess seeing helmet destruction in sentai. The last time we had that was in Go-Busters, Go-Onger with Go-On Red's helmet getting smashed in the finale and Gekiranger, sadly.
@@xgray2012 How could you forget Gaoranger?
And we cant forget Gai and Kouchiro(both the Black ones from Jetman and Megaranger respectively).
OutFreak28 I hate the Japanese version they suck I don’t like the Broken helmet
@@starpointsuperstar lol k
The best thing about this is how much detail went into recreating this scene. Obviously the timeranger scenes took place in a more urban business setting but the positioning of the actors and camera movements are spot on.
While it is true that some scenes translate poorly(like the sudden day to night switch during the first Quantum/Time Fire morph) the look of love and care that went into doing this scene justice is amazing.
I have to imagine that a large part of it was so that they could reuse as much of the Japanese footage as possible. Can't use footage of the industrial park if you set your Western cast in the woods. Besides, that also takes a lot of the planning and guesswork about which angles to use. Ain't got time to re-invent the wheel- we got a production schedule to keep!
You don't get it dude, the guy took so much time to pose and transform into the Quantum Ranger that entire days passed in that scene (?)
There so different, PR focuses so much more on the relationship between Wes and his dad, whereas the Japanese counterpart is more about the corporate vs individual. Interesting.
timeranger would still focus on their relationship as the series went on, but tatsuya's dad was a lot more stubborn than Mr. collins. timeranger also gave the character a tragic backstory, so you can kind of understand how he ended up the way he did
@@garretdrake2347 Timeranger indeed focused on that aspect(relationship between father and son), but that is not the main thing. Time Force focused a lot on Wes's growth and transition, but time ranger did not specifically focus on one thing but the whole team. The transition of the whole team from anxiety, depression to a kind of positive team. Also, the main protagonist in time ranger is better than Ransik. Captain Ryuya charged anything like a time-travel machine, history editor, time jets, time-shadow...this kind of time-master may fit the element of time way better. A hatred monster like Ransik is indeed enjoyable to watch, but he did not fit the element of time that well.
English Power Rangers are way better than Japenese Power Rangers.
@@isaacogunmuko3947 >Japanese power rangers
It’s amazing how much you can learn about a person from just one comment lol
@@garretdrake2347 Yeah. I think the one thing Zeus also was getting at is how it is also about how things different in many ways between both series, even as the similarities are also VERY present.
2:35 Damn he got Yamcha'd. ;(
That was actually a reference, look It up
You are a man of culture Neo boy
Lmao
You can really see the difference of cultural styles at 3:36
The US relies heavily on shot reverse shot between dialogue of characters whilst the Japanese display a full body performance, no doubt influenced by Kabuki theatre.
I know this is a super late reply, but such a good observation.
If you ask me, I prefer the full body shots than the shot reverse shot.
Good obervation as you said.
Having studie japanese and amarican styles of film, here in the west we tend to react more to the expresions and the emotions displayed in the face of the character, creating more conection with the audicence, while there the posture, the, the situacion, the context, and the actors movement and the way they act depending on the situacion help to enter their emotion, definitelly displaying more psysicall actions to characterize people
@@jesusa.adorno6933 nah it's bad dude face to face shots show the face as well as body it's better😉
@@steelfeather5535 Dude, it all come down to personal preference.
The actor, Edward Albert, who played Wes's father, Mr. Collins, died from lung cancer in 2006
R.I.P
Davin Peterson none cares
F
mark montanari looks like someone didn’t have a childhood growing up
Mr. Collins made timeforce more better. I loved the father and son relationship. Good actor.
Why does this feel like the best power rangers fight scene ive seen in my life. Where has time force been all my life and how did i miss it.
4:55 No matter which version, it's still hilarious smash cutting from this quiet moment of family drama to the other rangers fucking exploding.
Eric Myers: “Don’t be stupid, you should listen to your father!”
(Several years later)
Vergil: “My son means nothing to me!”
(Also Vergil)
Following a dark path to be just like his Father/more Devil, while in reality thats not what Sparda do his intire life
Vergil never was the type to take his own advice
Underrated comment
To me Wes and Eric are the true Dante and Vergil giving the fact Wes and Eric are a lot like theme
Both changed their tunes real fast.
I do love the Western father son talk better. Its just more concise especially while his friends are in danger and it shows that urgency. He really emphasizes what makes him an individual and a man(person) in choosing their own path, not needing some forced path. I get the Japanese one had quite a few more layers especially with the emphasize on trying to make defense a business for rich people. But we’ve got all that afterwards as a solemn note between family, showing that the Western Rangers doesn’t always have to end on happy notes or a joke
I think time force is probably the best well acted PR series to date
Along side Lightspeed rescue, this is my favorite season of all
i find rpm better.
TheKilluminati714 in space too
Well, I'd say it's tied between RPM and Ninja Storm and to an extant Dino Thunder and SPD. But yeah, in-terms of improvement in writing and acting of the past classic Saban-era seasons, yeah, Time Force was a huge step-up at the time.
Didn't you say that all of the Disney-era seasons improved on the acting at that time?!
so this whole time they just dubbed over scenes and added western characters, my mind is blown.
Yeah, this is pretty much how first Power Rangers came to existence. It's funny because both shows coexists with each other.
God bless America...
That the only way to make power ranger series
Um didn't you know that they've been doing that since mighty morphing and that was back in 1993
They do add in some scenes with the suits too, although if they had the suits to add extra scenes why didn't they just do the whole show with their own scenes
I’m a Japanese and haven’t seen a single whole episode of PR. This video helped me a lot to learn how to make PR. Great video, thank you.
Okay, then TH-cam Recommendations, I don't know what crack your smoking but I can dig it.
Lol
😂😂😂
Lmao same
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Can you dig it? Can you dig it? CAN YOU DIG IT!!???
For a comparison video, the edit for timing is great.
I like how people compare the scene with the dads and used to say time force was better but I think that time force gave the story between the father a loving but unable to understand each other while time ranger makes it the more realistic and devastating how a business can easily make you forget the people whose your supposed to love and grating a great distance between what the father wants and what the son chose but I like both of the series because of the different from the show
I kinda like the more ragged detail on the Japanese helmet more. But I can appreciate the sentiment in both scenes. A son is just trying to stand up as his own man, on his own path. This almost makes me want to watch Time Force again.
Both scenes are really good but the Sentai's more busted helmet looked alot better
6:32
Not sure how i would feel seeing my son and his friends on colored tights like that
I know how I'd feel. Proud. Er.. you know.. if they were fighting monsters and shit.
@@calanon534 but if they don't...........well,i just ask them for one more for me
Time Force had some of the best actors. Some were actually high ranking actors.
I'm calling it a draw on this, timeforce is one of the few ranger series that comes close to it's Japanese counterpart!
RPM is better than Go-Onger.
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@@estebanrl.2201 I heavily disagree
@@estebanrl.2201 nope
@@estebanrl.2201 Apples and Oranges, honestly.
Frankly, direct comparison of those two shows is a waste of time, due to just how much is different between the two.
that was the best generation of power ranger to me ! :)
mike cruz definetly
mike cruz nah the Spd
It's a fight between this, in space, or lost galaxy... but I think Power Rangers in Space wins because of the badass psycho rangers... like you will never forget them.
Of course like I haven't heard a lot of other people say the same thing...
Completamente de acuerdo!!! El Sentai genial y su contraparte ranger igual con un villano tan complejo como Ransik al cual NO PUDIERON VENCER.
Dios los bendiga!!! Saiop!!!
Vergil (DMC) : You should listen to your father!
He's one to talk.
@@IANGEL101I He said that because Wes was running away from the opportunities given to him, instead of taking advantage of it
Time Force is one of the best, most mature seasons. Well-acted, well-written, great character arcs
Battle damage looks much better in super sentai version.
Yeah but in time force they rarely did their own scenes with the suits so when they did that bit they had to make a suit so doing the battle damage would have been expensive and cost them time
You sound very ungrateful lol
Bowens92 Fr tho. Sentai purists are so ungrateful
@@kiwiangeldust6912 Ungrateful? What shoud sentai fans be grateful for? For the fact that the Sentai shows can never air anywhere outside of Japan even if they were insanely popular in many countries way before Haim Saban got his hands on Zyuranger? Well, thank you, Saban.
In my opinion though the scene in the US version in general was better done than the Japanese version.
Left side : Live-action Version
Right side : Anime version
Lol. Both live action. Sentai means Task force. Left side - American Version | Right side Japanese Version.
@@norman1015 R/wooooooosh
Norman Espenilla omg shut the hell up lmao
@Shahmir782 r/yes
5:27 Why does the American version have such a crappy weapon design compared to the Sentai version?
Wow! Usually PR don’t reboot Sentai scenes. This is almost a exact reenactment. Good job PR.
Far as I know they have done it for decades
Then you must never heard of bad luck episode in Boukenger and Operation Overdrive
@@justnoob8141 why?
@@mohammedyousef4005 they had to redo ALL scenes in "bad luck" episode for Operation Overdrive becuase US and Japan work differently
@@justnoob8141 what happened in the sentai?
I love how in the Japanese version it shows blood dripping down Asami's face
Luv that tbh
Super Sentai at that time is like J-Drama with Superheroes. They get wounded, hurt, injured and asses kicked, most even have deaths in them; and not the fade away kind of death, the kind where they get gunned down, stabbed, exploded and mortally wounded. They pull no punches when a Sentai member gets killed, they get mercilessly murdered.
@@jack-exzolt9858 Tokusatsu in general tbh
But in the American version Wes’s face has covered with dirt
@@animebillymii this is because power rangers doesn’t want to have blood
5:11
Original gets this cool nice looking weapon.
English gets a comically large caricature of a gun.
They used the same weapons in the end you're still gay.
@@TheVamxieaw. Someone's projecting. "Just trying to express myself." LOL. Go draw mommy a picture she can hang on the refrigerator.
Well tbh english version makes more sense. How did the red ranger in Japanese even make his gun bigger and different design when they combined it.
@@twodollarking8009 yeah it makes sense. That doesn't make it less funny though.
Also, the soldiers have real guns, instead of those laser guns
I just found out Wataru Asami (Tatsuya's father) is played by the same actor as Dr. Dazai, the mentor of the TurboRangers (1989); Fujita Okamoto.
6:14
I have to admit...PR handled that final father and son scene way better than Sentai
I think this has less to do with objective quality and more with cultural differences. BUT, it's a testament to how amazingly they adapted the show to the US audience, so bonus points!
2:55 , after seeing his friend, he was MOTIVATED
Holy sh*t. The japanese version has blood!
Japan show's blood even in kid cartoons. Anime? Idk. They make sexual jokes without hiding it in kid cartoons as well. Like they just don't give a fuck.
@@twodollarking8009 they are not pussies
In one of the early series of Super Sentai a kid got crushed to death by a falling boulder
@@twodollarking8009 ngu vãi chưởng :)))
@@arthuredington6171 holy shit lmao. which sentai series??
6:25 welcome to the mirrored dimension!
That's not Kamen Rider Ryuki, dude
The Changed it in the America version to comply with the 180 degree rule.
Oh no. I hearing mirror noises.
Seeing these side by side was super cool, thank you!
This one asked a while back. Never had the chance to finish working on it because the sub group didn't get to this point in subbing the series. But finally they did. So this is one that I wanted to upload for a while and the next comparison will be the one that was the most demanded for the longest time.
I know Sentai fans will be asking why didn't I continue to show the rest of the Timeranger episode. Well that's for the next comparison so be patient :)
Episodes Used:
Power Rangers Time Force Episode 12 "Worlds Apart"
Mirai Sentai Timeranger Case File 28 "A Time of Reunion"
Thanks for the video! I love the Time Force Rangers!
I actually kind of liked this comparison. This definitely is a primary example that Power Rangers doesn't really have to be like a carbon-copy "note-for-note translation" of the Sentai most of the time, but just a straight-up adaptation of the Sentai.
rangersentaiguy2 thanks for your vídeo
tanks but we re Quantum Ranger and Q-Rex Split Screen
Eduardo Cordova Quantum Ranger's first appearance is a good idea
I really love this shot around 3:00 on the Japanese version as one eye is visible while the other is hidden, reminds me of Tobi from Naruto 😅
man those guys at 0:29 marching gallantly. Love the moves
That are the New moves for the 9 season of fornite
Crazy how they can tell two different stories with the same footage
Ikr
That's really the magic of both Sentai and Power Rangers, and that's why I love them both.
3:30 - 4:55 The relationship difference between Time Force and Time Ranger is night and day.
Wes and his father clearly do care for one another but their life choices are what cause them to take different paths in what's right for them and for each other. Wes is a Ranger because he's making his own life choices instead of going with the flow in life. However, his father thinks Wes should be like him in order for him to step up and take hold of their family's company and views in making a profit. But it isn't until much later in the series where Wes's father finally accepts his son's wishes and lets him be a Time Force Ranger.
Tatsuya's dad on the other hand seems extremely strict and is deadset for Tatsuya to focus on the company as whole instead of goofing with his friends. When he saw Tatsuya was one of the Time Ranger he wasn't just shocked, he was angry and even disappointed in Tatsuya from the way he's speaking with him. Now correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't seen the Super Sentai Time Ranger as I can't find it on TH-cam but i'd assume the relationship between Tatsuya and his father relationship's only sours as the series goes on as his father still disapproves of him being apart of the Time Rangers. Correct if I'm wrong because I am curious to know if I'm wrong.
In Timeranger, Everyone expects him to follow in his dad’s footsteps but Tatsuya wants to known to the world as Asami Tatsuya not just the head of the Asami corporation. His father wants him to be a businessman and follow in his footsteps and not stay a timeranger as he wants him to not get hurt, but when Tatsuya finally snaps, Mr Asami understands that Tatsuya wants nothing to do with the company and therefore doesn’t help him until he realizes that Tatsuya would do anything to save his dad even tho he hates him. By the end, Mr Asami accepts Tatsuya and the odd jobs company he wants to make called Tomorrow Research. A really interesting dynamic that’s very different in Time Force
Super sentai had some actual blood in there, nice
I hate to break it to u but they are just props
@@cadriaan2474 though, they represent actual blood.
"Yes that's me, doing the usual nothing I ...usually do. Hehehe."
Best line.
The red super sentai looks like he's saying "Oh shit they found out my secret" whereas the red ranger like "Yo I'm the red ranger what up." lol. Also look at there freaking gun comparison.. he's using a freaking nerf gun....
Well the sentai version was a weapon that hadn't been introduced in the ranger version. Continuity's important, y'know
The editing that goes into Power Rangers is amazing. One wouldn't even be able to tell which footage came from where at a first glance
0:29 they’re all hitting the griddy towards them before they fucking die
0:00 ふつうに日本のパトカー映ってて草
もっと笑えるのは7:54の所で外人が日本の熊手で庭掃除してるところ。
While the Silver Guardians are using lazer guns(to probably tone them down for children), their Japanese counterparts are using revolvers. Yet, earlier in Time Force some guy pointed a revolver at Ransik?
It's "Silver Guardians", not "Civil". Also, blame the censorship during 9/11.
"Toning it down for children" Sentai's aimed at kids in Japan as well, they can just get away with a bit more than America can.
Just pointing that out. Lol.
+Thomas Nevitt I know that even in Japan they still can be a little bit concerned for the kids. Next thing you know I've heard rumors that some people in charge of subbing the shows in English like TV Nihon would actually try adding some cursing in some lines just to make some of the shows look even more mature for English speaking audiences.
Okay.
I love how the English version dad was so indifferent about the rangers and the soldiers getting whooped. 01:05 - 02:06
Remember when Power Rangers told mature stories? Time Force remembers.
Holy hell the Sentai is better paced. Plus the helmet is more damaged, and blood. Eric doesn't scream Wes.
Ranger series tend to stray away from the original Sentai story, and I was very impressed by the similarities between the two series. I could say for certainty that Time Force is a legit american adaptation of Timeranger.
Power Rangers always want to be different from the sentai because if they just stay close to the original, it would be a dub. Timeranger is a really hard season to adapt so using a bunch of the elements while adding original stuff to it was necessary. Time Force and Timeranger are very similar but their differences make them stand out
Man this brings back memories, I had this episode on VHS and I thought Eric or the Quantum Ranger was badass, I remember I'd always call myself Eric and I remember with my toy guns I'd always do that thing whenever he was smacking his gun against his hand.
Time Force is not the only one here, but whatever.
Japan: Gun looks like an elongated Wii Zapper.
USA: Gun looks like a BFG.
That’s because the Spark Blaster was adapted yet. It would’ve been a continuity error if Wes used it.
Thankfully, the writers caught that.
5:14
English version: **Thicc gun**
Japanese version: More details
Me: cunfusion
Both guns exist in both versions, but in Time Force the gun TimeRed uses wasn't introduced yet as this happened much earlier in Time Force than it did in Timeranger.
Sentai Red: I got this sweet ass gun.
Red Ranger: IT'S NERF OR NOTHIN!
My favorite moments from both Time Force & Timeranger:
Time Force:
- The moment of truth between Wes & his father (after the monster wrecked Wes's helmet)
- Eric becomes Quantum Ranger
- Eric gains the Mega Battle Armor
- The Final Battle (I'm glad Eric didn't die here)
- Wes joins the Silver Guardians as the captain, with Eric as his partner
Timeranger:
- The moment of truth between Tatsuya & his father (after the monster wrecked Tatsuya's helmet)
- Naoto becomes Time Fire
- Ayase made up his mind to fight his disease
- Gien betrays Dolnero
- The Final Battle (kinda sad that Naoto die here)
Is kinda sad that tatsuya in tiemranter don't become leader of the city guardians
I love how the american version teleports them back and forth from the United States to Japan.😂
25 year old me: How Did I get here?! Good times
4 year old me: I Just wanted you to remember
Not sure if anyone said anything yet but thank you for putting the audio on the respective sides
You can see the difference and I like the Sentia version. Especially the weapons design, because bigger is not ways better.
0:01 c'mon Power Rangers, you couldn't edit out the Japanese?
Lmao just noticed that, that's pretty bad
The True Hero I actually did notice that when I first watched it years ago, but I just didn't give it thought. Never new pr is adopted from japan
pokemaster123ism Because the Edition Wasn't Advanced in that Time
Uh, dude, the technology wasn't advanced in that time, duh?!
That's because the technology wasn't advanced at that time, hello?! Timeranger came out in 2000. Time Force in 2001. We didn't have all that fancy, smancy high-tech gadgets back in the early 2000's.
Timeforce was one of the few adaptations that use correctly the og Super Sentai footagefrom Timeranger
Doesn't mean anything lol
@@bowens9211 your comment doesn't mean anything. He actually made a point.
You weirdo.
"Tatsuya Wes, Daijio-are you alright?" 😂😂
Both these scenes are equally good. I like the Sentai version because the dad seems caring yet firm with his son, while also shocked at the fact his son is a Ranger. But the American version is also great too because Wes’ father retains that same caring firmness we see here in Sentai, only he’s more shocked because his son chose a different path than was set for him. Also the way Wes stands up to his Dad owns him bonus points.
This scene was gold when I first saw it probably 15 years ago
I’m surprised to see how Time Force was accurately faithful to original footage overall.
2:29 Something about that unexpected owl just made me crack up
3:01
Mirai Sentai Timeranger (Right): There's A Bit Of Blood On Asami's Face.
POWER RANGERS TIME FORCE (Left): There's No Blood On Wes' Face.
Time Rangers is my favorite series overall, nothing wrong with other series, but I think it had one of the best (if not the best) main villain ever, Vernon Wells did an amazing job.
Considering the target audience, it was a pretty dark series and tackled some problematic topics like war collateral casualties, racism and xenophobia
I was re-watching “Worlds Apart” and right before Eric asks to be the head of star Silver Guardians, they’re trying to figure out how they can get fire power as good as the rangers, someone says to Wes’ dad “your son’s a ranger, he can help us” and he responds “leave my son out of this” so why is it that he’s shocked when Wes he met breaks? He literally already knew his son was a ranger earlier in the episode 😤
5:50
So this is where Kamen Rider Build got inspired.
God damn they even both pulled up in an S Class Mercedes Benz just one gen newer in Time force. Nice touch.
It's hilarious how much original footage they used. I was expecting it to just be the in-suit fight scenes.
仮面ワレのカッコ良さは本家が最高やな
永井大 サイコー
下層のメカ基盤まで描写されてるからな
one of the best seasons with great story telling.. and a love story too.
Fucking tragic love story. You dont know how much I hated to see Jen leave. Good thing she returned in Wild Force tho. It was a nice reunion with timeforce.
(This is a response for those that I have received concerning my channel and the content for which I am uploading).
I happy that you have concern as to the material I upload is a danger to my channel. I respect your point of view where you're going with this. I have taken the liberty of talking with a few circles of people who know about what I am doing on the channel. They respect what I do but wouldn't do what I am doing because they have a different take. I have done lots of research and have already have some content blocked mostly because of the copyright laws in certain regions of the world. I am not doing this material for paid content of any kind. I am doing this as a fan for both shows. I already understand that uploading the videos I am showing is of of some concern to Toei, Bandai, Saban, etc. I already knew about the dangers of uploading these kinds of content years ago before I made this channel. But here's the one thing I will point out and have concern to those that do upload full episodes of Tokusatu's of any kind on TH-cam. Those have a much higher risk of getting their channels taken down by certain companies but may not because in the regions those people uploading the content is different that it would be where I am from. Saban Entertainment and other companies don't want me to show certain videos which is why they block some of my content only in some regions. I have some ideas already what content Saban, Toei, and others will block and I am respecting their wishes and upload them somewhere else (which is why I made the Dailymotion account). Music, Videos, and other kinds of Entertainment is something we all need to be wary of and respect those that feel about fair use content. Bottomline I am happy and respect your concern as for the content I am uploading onto TH-cam. Best of wishes. ~rangersentaiguy
stop freezing the English language one
Uh...dude, this is not the full episode, okay?! This is just a basic comparison to how the sentai footage were edited by the production crew back in 2001. If you wanna watch the full episode, just google search the damn season for all the episodes either on Kisscartoon or any other streaming site. Stop being such a crybaby!!!
Neo-Xgray87 d
Those were different times back then because I didn't know about much about the copyright laws within YT and with mostly Toei and Saban. If this is going to be said to me are you and others will be saying that to others that also post PR and Sentai vids on YT as well. There's are others that post a number of PR clips and other Tokusatus from different seasons (ignoring Neo-Saban channel because that's run by Saban). I know there's a number of people that have posted these kinds of clips and I don't see many others getting the same treatment. I am not saying your wrong for pointing me out I'm asking if others will be targetted as well if this keeps up?
I didn't realize Vergil was in this show in America
Ikr??
He was like,
"West?"
Wait, Vergil?
"Don't be stupid Wes! Why do you refuse to gain power!?"
Dante had a cameo in the first episode as the guy that got his car taken by the rangers and the movie themed episode.
"Don't be stupid Wes. I am the storm that is approaching."
How the Hell can people just see The Red Rangers eyes and immediately know who it is
But
Clark Kent can show most of his face and put on some glasses and he's unrecognizable lol
Parents know they children pretty well
I can’t speak for anyone else, but my parents could easily tell it was me
I’ve been a casual fan for quite a while but now I’m interested to watch both versions in their entirety lol.
6:05 6:08 love how the ground is completly different...
I think both are great this show I think is the first power ranger show that actually trying to be faithful to the super sentai show
Timeranger is a great sentai be honest I am not a fan of power rangers but this does look close to timeranger but I would watch the power rangers version anytime soon 👍
love how they stay true even to the outfits of them, really nice, no wonder this show was so good
love the Sentai versions speech, how he sees a different possibility than the company, a different future
just said it so well
Time force has the BIGGEST twist villain in all of power rangers
6:20 I know this isn't anything major, but in PR, Red walks left-to-right to his team whilst in SS he turns left to his team.
the real kicker about this show is how they still seamlessly reused the Japanese footage i always knew that some was reused but this shows just how much got reused
Well that is power rangers in a nutshell
In Space, Time Force, SPD, Dino Thunder, and RPM.
We all have our personal favorites, but I think we can agree those are the best seasons.
Despite Power rangers mostly using the Japanese footage for the fighting and all, I have to give credit for the good writing and acting when they were not in ranger forms💪🏻💪🏻
If only the mother of Wes appeared.
Wes' dad: Wes! Son! If you just let me explain, you'd understand you're talking about your nonsense...
Wes: No. Ever since you and mom split. All my life, I've done what YOU only wanted me to do. Well no more. No I'm gonna control my own future... without you.
Wes' dad: Wesley I tried. But I just don't understand you.
Wes: If mom was around, you'd start listening to what she has to say.
This is probably one of the best ones. It's almost shot for shot the same even though you could tell the Power Rangers from the Super Sentai footage
ストーリー的にはそんなに差はないのかな❔暴徒鎮圧のシーンは、さすがアメリカ🇺🇸とてもリアリティがある。それにしてもマスクが破壊され、役者の顔が見えるのは燃えるな〜パワーレンジャー版もいいね👍
ほとんどのアクションシーンは日本版の物の流用ですよ。その証拠が0:00がパトカー登場シーン。日本のパトカーがばっちり写っています。周りの建物も全部いっしょです。
@@プーちゃんのママポンちゃん 本当だ(笑)警視庁って書いてありますね！全然気がつかなかった💧