i got my first real pc last year. after trying a cheap airsoft version 10 years ago with the plastic filler plates i was totally put off. the thing didnt breath at all, and even tightened down, it would bash me in the chin constantly. especially when kneeling. fast forward to last year. i picked up a combat systems pc and filled it with slightly weighted plates from travail fitness. could not be happier! naturally it has some added weight compared to the mini rig i usually run, but the mesh and padding breath exceptionally well. and the plates arent full weight, but have enough to make hold the pc down and fit correctly. plus they are curved on the x and y axis so they fit very comfortably. with the foam padding on the back and they also fill the pc properly. the pc also has those swift clips, and man is it easy to pop that thing off at the end of the day. highly recommend this set up.
Bro I know that you have some time doing this videos and the content and what you teach us is awesome, no other channel in TH-cam teach us this things like you do. Never give up my friend and keep it going, soon your channel will grow a lot more
The ferro slickster is around $160 and is an excellent carrier. Slickster makes excellent gear. The spiritus lv119 can also be had under $200 and is excellent
Thanks for the great vid as always man, ever think about doing a video where you show us your load-out and how it compares to airsoft? Or just two separate videos going through them both?
Posting a video about what equipment I use at work would be a violation of my department's social media policy. The setups are certainly very similar. The main differences are that at work I wear a helmet, have plates in my armor and carry "flash bangs". The position of my reloads is the same. The set up of my team rifle is very similar to my ICS Captain.
Good video. Those foam pads they sent with it are just extra little trauma pads. Just a little more foam to put behind your armor to help absorb energy
Looking at EOD-GEAR they seem two have to SKUs for the same LPC. V1 and V1-MK1, any idea what the difference is? Don't see anything listed on the website other than a $35 price increase for the MK1...
EOD gear has the quick release cummerbund but its just the cummerbund, you can look at beez combat or defense mechanisms for some quick release cummerbunds
I don't have any first hand experience with them but I don't see any significant advantage to mounting magazines sideways. It may be a hair faster but the speed of your reload is very rarely a deciding factor in any engagement. But if you like the concept don't let my opinion dissuade you. Gear is very personal.
I’m trying to find the actual size the cumberbund is, the carrier and plate sizes are the same for medium and large for the WAS LPC but I’m still trying to find out the difference of the cumberbund sizing…
@@GunfatherMilsim ya I ended up contacting Warrior Assault Systems and giving them my measurements and they recommended a size Large. The plate bags are the same on both the Medium and Large and it’s really just the cumberbund. I’ve ordered the carrier and now I’m waiting for it to show up. The majority of the reasons you purchased are the reasons I got one. I have a friend who has a Crye JPC 2.0 and a LBT carrier and as much as I liked the JPC and the way it fit it was missing a lot of comfort. I did try on a Haley Strategics Thorax plate carrier because they are local and a buddy of mine works next to them and knows a lot of those guys and if that carrier wasn’t $400+ I would have got one of those. But I think I’ll be happy with the Warrior carrier and I got a good deal on it so I “pulled the trigger” and bought it. Can you tell me what plates you have? Thanks for the video, it actually really helped me with the decision, so thank you! Have a great day and stay safe! ✌🏼
@@TaterGrabbinBass I was using a set of lvl III polyurethane ones I purchased about six years ago. I couldn't tell you the brand, and honestly it isn't important. Just buy a good set of polyurethane ones that are rated to your liking. I recently switched this PC to my main airsoft/milsim rig so I dropped the poly plates and switched to a set of IIIA soft armor plates from TAG. Necessary for airsoft? No. But they fill the plate pocket nicely and add a little bit of weight.
@@007TheStfu007 I really liked the comfort level. FWIW I had to switch this vest back over to range duty for work. I have been using my LBT Armatus 2 for milsim lately. The Warrior Assault Systems is far superior to the Armatus 2 on all fronts as it can do both jobs. The Armatus 2 is not appropriate for real steel range use IMO.
I had not seen them. After checking out their website it looks like some pretty good gear. I am not in the market for a new PC but they look pretty reasonably priced.
I have had this plate carrier for over two years. I wear it daily while teaching with plates in it. That is daily use on an outdoor range. If you check out my FB page or IG account I just posted some photos of it as I just wore it for the Murph. The Hyperlon is still in perfect condition. In fact the entire plate carrier is in perfect condition. There are sweat stains I can't wash out and a few stitches came out on the velcro to the built in admin pocket on the chest. That is it. I actually just ordered another PC in green not to replace this one but to use in addition to this one. Buy with confidence, this is simply the most comfortable and durable PC I have ever owned.
@TheJoeml85 I had First Spear, laser cut plate carrier that was issued to me on SWAT. We were really excited about the laser cut when we got it but within two years we all hated it. The laser cut Cordura would separate from the velcro plate and sag. By the time we replaced them at the end of their five year warranty they were barely serviceable. I will never buy a laser cut plate carrier based on that experience.
@@GunfatherMilsim yeah it doesn’t look as durable I found the lpc with out the laser cut for 245 was thinking about picking that up with legacy level iv plates
No idea. Probably about a pound. Most the weight in a plate carrier comes from the plates and whatever you carry on it. I have never found the difference in weight of the actual carriers to be that significant.
No idea and no offense but I am not gonna strip it down to get you an answer. FWIW this is still my favorite PC and I use it several times a week when I am teaching rifle classes. It gets a LOT of use and take the abuse like a champ.
@@GunfatherMilsim Understood, it was more a comment for anyone in the comments who knew that information. Glad to hear it is holding up well, planning on buying one this week, just comparing it o the gold standard jpc 2.0.
How to discredit yourself in the first 10s of your review vid: Call the product by the wrong name. LPC is for Low Profile Carrier, not Lightweight Plate Carrier.
i got my first real pc last year. after trying a cheap airsoft version 10 years ago with the plastic filler plates i was totally put off. the thing didnt breath at all, and even tightened down, it would bash me in the chin constantly. especially when kneeling.
fast forward to last year. i picked up a combat systems pc and filled it with slightly weighted plates from travail fitness. could not be happier! naturally it has some added weight compared to the mini rig i usually run, but the mesh and padding breath exceptionally well. and the plates arent full weight, but have enough to make hold the pc down and fit correctly. plus they are curved on the x and y axis so they fit very comfortably. with the foam padding on the back and they also fill the pc properly. the pc also has those swift clips, and man is it easy to pop that thing off at the end of the day. highly recommend this set up.
Bro I know that you have some time doing this videos and the content and what you teach us is awesome, no other channel in TH-cam teach us this things like you do. Never give up my friend and keep it going, soon your channel will grow a lot more
Thank you sir. I appreciate the support.
Thanks for the extensive explenation. Some insightfull pointers as to why you chose this LPC 👍🏻
The ferro slickster is around $160 and is an excellent carrier. Slickster makes excellent gear. The spiritus lv119 can also be had under $200 and is excellent
Thanks for the great vid as always man, ever think about doing a video where you show us your load-out and how it compares to airsoft? Or just two separate videos going through them both?
Posting a video about what equipment I use at work would be a violation of my department's social media policy. The setups are certainly very similar. The main differences are that at work I wear a helmet, have plates in my armor and carry "flash bangs". The position of my reloads is the same. The set up of my team rifle is very similar to my ICS Captain.
I got lucky with my AWS OCPC at $160 two years ago. You're right about the price gouging going on. Nice video.
Thanks for the video! I d like to ask your opion for LPC vs DCS? I am 6 2 feet and i have concerns about LPC may be too small for torso. Thanks!
Good video. Those foam pads they sent with it are just extra little trauma pads. Just a little more foam to put behind your armor to help absorb energy
Nice! Is WAS's own tube system cross-compatible with the First Spear tubes?
No, but they function the same way. There are MANY knock-offs of First Spear's tubes at this point.
Looking at EOD-GEAR they seem two have to SKUs for the same LPC. V1 and V1-MK1, any idea what the difference is? Don't see anything listed on the website other than a $35 price increase for the MK1...
I wonder if the WAS Quick Release Speed Clips cummerbund would work on the WAS Recon PC. Do they even sell the cummerbund separateley?
EOD gear has the quick release cummerbund but its just the cummerbund, you can look at beez combat or defense mechanisms for some quick release cummerbunds
On a real set up what size carrier and plates you run? I’m 5’10” 190lbs with a stocky build and running medium sapi in a small carrier.
I am 5'08, 205 lbs and I typically wear medium carrier and standard swimmer cut plates (10"x12"). However I prefer a smaller carrier.
I ll take tac vest
can you mount pouches/mag pouches to the side webbing ?
Yep.
Any thoughts on Horizontal Velcro Mag Pouch from Warrior or any other manufacturer? How do you like Drop Down Velcro Utility Pouch from Warrior?
I don't have any first hand experience with them but I don't see any significant advantage to mounting magazines sideways. It may be a hair faster but the speed of your reload is very rarely a deciding factor in any engagement. But if you like the concept don't let my opinion dissuade you. Gear is very personal.
@@GunfatherMilsim I'm more interested in rear mounting the sideway magazine pouch for prone reloads...
@@sokolski369.8 That may be a good option.
I’m trying to find the actual size the cumberbund is, the carrier and plate sizes are the same for medium and large for the WAS LPC but I’m still trying to find out the difference of the cumberbund sizing…
I would just call the manufacturer.
@@GunfatherMilsim ya I ended up contacting Warrior Assault Systems and giving them my measurements and they recommended a size Large. The plate bags are the same on both the Medium and Large and it’s really just the cumberbund. I’ve ordered the carrier and now I’m waiting for it to show up. The majority of the reasons you purchased are the reasons I got one. I have a friend who has a Crye JPC 2.0 and a LBT carrier and as much as I liked the JPC and the way it fit it was missing a lot of comfort. I did try on a Haley Strategics Thorax plate carrier because they are local and a buddy of mine works next to them and knows a lot of those guys and if that carrier wasn’t $400+ I would have got one of those. But I think I’ll be happy with the Warrior carrier and I got a good deal on it so I “pulled the trigger” and bought it.
Can you tell me what plates you have?
Thanks for the video, it actually really helped me with the decision, so thank you! Have a great day and stay safe! ✌🏼
@@TaterGrabbinBass I was using a set of lvl III polyurethane ones I purchased about six years ago. I couldn't tell you the brand, and honestly it isn't important. Just buy a good set of polyurethane ones that are rated to your liking.
I recently switched this PC to my main airsoft/milsim rig so I dropped the poly plates and switched to a set of IIIA soft armor plates from TAG. Necessary for airsoft? No. But they fill the plate pocket nicely and add a little bit of weight.
@@GunfatherMilsim Hey, why did you change this PC to milsim? Because you got something better or just like the way it feels?
@@007TheStfu007 I really liked the comfort level. FWIW I had to switch this vest back over to range duty for work. I have been using my LBT Armatus 2 for milsim lately. The Warrior Assault Systems is far superior to the Armatus 2 on all fronts as it can do both jobs. The Armatus 2 is not appropriate for real steel range use IMO.
Have you seen the agilite? What's your thoughts
I had not seen them. After checking out their website it looks like some pretty good gear. I am not in the market for a new PC but they look pretty reasonably priced.
Where did you get the triple taco pouch?
Amazon.
How is the Hyperlon shoulder straps holding up that’s the only thing that worries me
I have had this plate carrier for over two years. I wear it daily while teaching with plates in it. That is daily use on an outdoor range. If you check out my FB page or IG account I just posted some photos of it as I just wore it for the Murph. The Hyperlon is still in perfect condition. In fact the entire plate carrier is in perfect condition. There are sweat stains I can't wash out and a few stitches came out on the velcro to the built in admin pocket on the chest. That is it. I actually just ordered another PC in green not to replace this one but to use in addition to this one. Buy with confidence, this is simply the most comfortable and durable PC I have ever owned.
@@GunfatherMilsim ok cool appreciate the reply another question what’s the big difference between the laser cut and the regular one
@TheJoeml85 I had First Spear, laser cut plate carrier that was issued to me on SWAT. We were really excited about the laser cut when we got it but within two years we all hated it. The laser cut Cordura would separate from the velcro plate and sag. By the time we replaced them at the end of their five year warranty they were barely serviceable. I will never buy a laser cut plate carrier based on that experience.
@@GunfatherMilsim yeah it doesn’t look as durable I found the lpc with out the laser cut for 245 was thinking about picking that up with legacy level iv plates
@TheJoeml85 Sounds like a good price. I always use Lvl III polyurethane plates but that is just to save weight.
What size did you get it
The medium.
How much does it weigh?
No idea. Probably about a pound. Most the weight in a plate carrier comes from the plates and whatever you carry on it. I have never found the difference in weight of the actual carriers to be that significant.
weight of carrier?
No idea and no offense but I am not gonna strip it down to get you an answer. FWIW this is still my favorite PC and I use it several times a week when I am teaching rifle classes. It gets a LOT of use and take the abuse like a champ.
@@GunfatherMilsim Understood, it was more a comment for anyone in the comments who knew that information. Glad to hear it is holding up well, planning on buying one this week, just comparing it o the gold standard jpc 2.0.
The Russian special force use this.
The tubes aren't 100$ you can get a set for 40$
Yes, the Chinese knock off ones, which I have used, can be found for $40.
How to discredit yourself in the first 10s of your review vid: Call the product by the wrong name. LPC is for Low Profile Carrier, not Lightweight Plate Carrier.
Lol. Thanks for pointing that out and thanks for watching.
To-may-toe. Toe-mat-o.