A Modern Cut Smock - like from Arktis UK - in those Oldskool German Camo Patterns would be a Dream! Never understood that "No collar" and No Hood approach on the German Smocks
There was often no collar because the garments were designed to be worn over the uniform tunic and the collar of that would show, along with the wearer's rank etc.
@@robertstallard7836 understood- good explanation - but i still prefer a Smock with a hood an Collar - lets assume those were the first smocks ... best regards
Hi I’m curious I see palm camo a lot but I never understood why there was a variation with light colors (the one you showed in the video). I tried to research it but I couldn’t find anything about it. Do you know anything about the palm variant. Also great video 👍.
Very good camo collection. What do you think about buying atf ''SECONDS'' zeltbahn is it worth or better to wait for normal ones . Ps planetree 5-6 zelts will be in stock soon :PP
it is worth it , i bought 4 Zeltbahn and mad ea whole tent . looks totally stunning ! If you buy Zeltbahn only chose one distributor to make sure they fit . I got mine from Nestof , Outstanding quality
Would you recommend a splinter camo smock of a kind of washed out brown/beige that I've seen recently? I don't know the exact colours, but it seemed like a pretty standard Heer/Fallschirmjäger smock that I could use in most units
Off topic, though the Germany Army used more earthtone colors later in the war, it is general accepted that their vehicles were gray. Now I know they came out of the factor as such, but was their any reasoning for using gray tones as the base paint? You do see gray in wooded areas and from a distance, gray does blend in.
They had a grey and brown pattern early on in Poland etc. That was later simplified to solid grey in ‘40-42. Tan was used as the base from ‘43 and units were supposed to add green and brown paint on top to fit the local environment. Grey was definitely considered a camouflage colour at the time and had been in use for uniforms since at least the early 19th century. Most of their enemies also used green tanks, so there could be some identification reasons for choosing grey. At least in infantry uniforms, they considered looking distinct from your enemies important.
Couple of questions: how baggy are the smocks? At the front says they fit like trash bags, while SMW has size large 38-42, which seems a closer fit: and would you recommend smocks as outerwear for hunting?
Super baggy. NH ones are chest size 56 about. I’d say for SMW order an XL for ATF order a large. Smocks were originally very large and only one size. If I hunted i’d wear mine for hunting.
@@TheReenactorsGuide sorry but not sure what NH is, and I think i would like it a bit closer fit, but I guess that would come with the clothes I wear under it? Thanks for the quick response!
Because there was oodles of the stuff found in warehouses! When Italy surrendered, in 1943, a ton of different types of material was taken and used for uniform manufacture all over Germany - for example the steel grey Officers quality wool cloth that you often see in SS officers' uniforms and caps. The camo, used by Italy, was also made use of and the HJ division, formed late in the war, was alloted the camo as there was little else available at that time. They were the main users, but photos also show Army units occasionally wearing odds and ends of it.
w o w what a lame presentation , he has the long table and the gear and he's using books he should have gotten rid of the books and unfold the field gear and lay it out on the table and lift them up and show them in the air with the lights shining on them , maybe i should have given him more time but dude does not come across as an ex military oh well im rolling out
'foliage hoops'....I wondered what they were
A Modern Cut Smock - like from Arktis UK - in those Oldskool German Camo Patterns would be a Dream!
Never understood that "No collar" and No Hood approach on the German Smocks
The sumpftarn smocks have hoods, well some of them
There was often no collar because the garments were designed to be worn over the uniform tunic and the collar of that would show, along with the wearer's rank etc.
@@robertstallard7836 understood- good explanation - but i still prefer a Smock with a hood an Collar - lets assume those were the first smocks ...
best regards
Just found this, do more camo pleasees 😁
Nice collection
Very good camo reproduction
Thank you!
Hi I’m curious I see palm camo a lot but I never understood why there was a variation with light colors (the one you showed in the video). I tried to research it but I couldn’t find anything about it. Do you know anything about the palm variant. Also great video 👍.
Colors always varied. It was all dependent on how the dyes would mix, set, and finish. But they always stayed greens,browns, and blacks.
@@TheReenactorsGuide ah ok, thank you for informing me 😁
It depends on being paratroopers or not
@@Mr.Skeleton. what
Do you know how common it was to see a oakleaf/blurred edge tunic?
Very good camo collection. What do you think about buying atf ''SECONDS'' zeltbahn is it worth or better to wait for normal ones . Ps planetree 5-6 zelts will be in stock soon :PP
Seconds usually have missing button holes and unaligned buttons both are easy fixes imo with the right tools.
it is worth it , i bought 4 Zeltbahn and mad ea whole tent . looks totally stunning ! If you buy Zeltbahn only chose one distributor to make sure they fit . I got mine from Nestof , Outstanding quality
Would you recommend a splinter camo smock of a kind of washed out brown/beige that I've seen recently? I don't know the exact colours, but it seemed like a pretty standard Heer/Fallschirmjäger smock that I could use in most units
Check out FJWerke
Question, i see reenactors with smocks and their cuffs are rolled in, and ive seen original photographs of it as well. How common was that?
Off topic, though the Germany Army used more earthtone colors later in the war, it is general accepted that their vehicles were gray. Now I know they came out of the factor as such, but was their any reasoning for using gray tones as the base paint? You do see gray in wooded areas and from a distance, gray does blend in.
Grey blends in pretty much anywhere. The absence of color makes it stand out less to the eye because cone receptors aren't activated
They had a grey and brown pattern early on in Poland etc. That was later simplified to solid grey in ‘40-42. Tan was used as the base from ‘43 and units were supposed to add green and brown paint on top to fit the local environment. Grey was definitely considered a camouflage colour at the time and had been in use for uniforms since at least the early 19th century. Most of their enemies also used green tanks, so there could be some identification reasons for choosing grey. At least in infantry uniforms, they considered looking distinct from your enemies important.
Great video. WHere can you find these types items on Instagram? :)
Cool collection where did you buy the face Thing
Nordhaus
@@TheReenactorsGuide but i cant buy it why
Would you recommend a blurred edge m42 smock made by atf ??
Couple of questions: how baggy are the smocks? At the front says they fit like trash bags, while SMW has size large 38-42, which seems a closer fit: and would you recommend smocks as outerwear for hunting?
Super baggy. NH ones are chest size 56 about. I’d say for SMW order an XL for ATF order a large. Smocks were originally very large and only one size. If I hunted i’d wear mine for hunting.
@@TheReenactorsGuide sorry but not sure what NH is, and I think i would like it a bit closer fit, but I guess that would come with the clothes I wear under it? Thanks for the quick response!
@@ethanfranklin5258 NH means nordhaus. But smocks were mean’t to be worn over the gear, clothing, etc. so take that into account they’re HUGE
@@TheReenactorsGuide ok thanks! I think I'll definitely be getting either an oak or palm camo from SMW
@@ethanfranklin5258 planetree is king. But to each their own.
Who makes the oak leaf M42 smock?
ATF
Cool vid man but I find it hilarious a guy who is color blind would be so obsessed with camo lol. Go figure
I’m barely colorblind lol. But it really is like 1 shade of green.
Best camo for most not urban terrain????
Bigfoot definitely knows
there is 100% no best camo depending on where you are your camo can differ depending where you are
@@itsscobra VC Forces supposedly found the Americans camouflage funny and useless did more towards giving away positions then hiding them
why did the Waffen SS units in the eye'talian theater adopt the eye'talian army camouflage uniforms
Because there was oodles of the stuff found in warehouses!
When Italy surrendered, in 1943, a ton of different types of material was taken and used for uniform manufacture all over Germany - for example the steel grey Officers quality wool cloth that you often see in SS officers' uniforms and caps.
The camo, used by Italy, was also made use of and the HJ division, formed late in the war, was alloted the camo as there was little else available at that time. They were the main users, but photos also show Army units occasionally wearing odds and ends of it.
w o w what a lame presentation , he has the long table and the gear and he's using books he should have gotten rid of the books and unfold the field gear and lay it out on the table and lift them up and show them in the air with the lights shining on them , maybe i should have given him more time but dude does not come across as an ex military oh well im rolling out