12:55 pre-turning your guns when turning around in a Battleship or a ship with a slow turret rotation speed is something I see far too rarely, so props to our protagonist Willy for doing something smart, which even a lot of high-tier players seem to forget!
Not just in battleships, even some destroyers work better if you get used to do this on a regular basis. It's how I regularly get gun kills with the Shimakaze, even in tier X some people still ignore how powerful those 120mm can be at close range, chat raging gunboat captains are a real treat in top tier battles :D
It's worth doing in every ship that does not have super fast turret rotation, and even then it doesn't hurt, so 95% chance to be useful, no chance to not be beneficial = always do this. Shima guns are kinda trash still but the HE shells are pretty damn nice, it's got a pretty heavy broadside for a DD, since the buff they certainly deserve respect. Not that 99% of shima players realize they even have guns, but still ^^
Still to this day, players learn more off of watching TH-cam vids than any in game tutorial... really makes you think... Well it makes us think, meanwhile at wargaming HQ... #crickets
“If you have a defection range of 6km and a torpedo range of 7km, but your target is sailing away from you at 25kts... and a train leaves the kholberg station at 3pm headed to Berlin.”
4:35 Of course no one listened, he said it in English. At that time, many of the players on the NA server are from South America and Spanish & Portuguese are often the languages of choice.
"School night" is also English slang for a night where the next day will be a normal working day (Monday - Friday) For example I might say: "I went to the pub last night and got completely rat-faced and now Im suffering. I should have known better than to go out with the lads on a school night."
I'm pretty sure the "insert coin" achievement is in reference to many of the old school torpedo alley arcade cabinets like Midway games's 1969 Sea Raider, which had physical cutouts of ships on the "horizon" that you'd send a torpedo out to and blow up for points. Edit: I will also point out that Sea Raider had the cutouts u-turn when you successfully hit them.
Yup, in low tiers ships are inaccurate enough to make yolo rushing BB r even some cruisers with a DD and shotgun torping them work more often than not, and especially in low tiers when people still have the "CoD atitude" most of the time, getting a kill and dying for it is seen as worth because their KD is neutral. Imo that is one of the worst things about the learning curve for DD, as around t6 that very definitively ends, and that's not even including the fact you'll mostly be seeing t8
Well you said the difference. Tier 10 is a still train wreck. Everyone camps because they don’t want to take risks, and guys who try to push for objectives are singled out and destroyed. For the most part at least.
Most of these videos of high scoring t4-5 games are people with 5k+ games played and lots of t10 ships coming to low tier with a 19pt captain to seal club though.
I only played the game a little. I started relatively early, back when the game was still pretty new and there only were American and Japanese ships, but when you combine all the time I played, you probably get less than a week worth of actual playtime. I always tried it, played a few matches, then lost interest again and then repeated that process a few years later. My highest ranking ship was a fully upgraded Kongo battleship and it was my only tier 5, even though I technically have been playing the game since the early days. I am actually one of those players who watches a lot of TH-cam videos to prepare and learn as much as I can, before trying one of those games out. That served me well with World Of Tanks, which I played a lot more than World Of Warships. Being prepared that way enabled me to "turn green" (stats-wise) after about 6000 matches in WoT, which apparently tends to take a lot longer for most players who don't watch tutorials. I ultimately rage quit WoT too (more for meta game reasons, because what they were doing with the Premium tanks and with Super Heavies, which were disgustingly overpowered at the time, annoyed me too much), but I was pretty used to being the highest ranking player in most matched I played, to getting around 2000 to 3000 points of damage done and to occasionally hold my own against "Unicum" players, or ruin their match by being the one guy who doesn't walk into their traps. The point being that watching tutorials helped me a lot with WoT. I knew where to go with what kind of tank and what to do there, how to angle armor, how to shoot weak spots, how to utilize cover and so on, basically before I even started playing the game. However, I could never replicate that success with World Of Warships. I learned stuff from tutorials, like how to angle armor, what ammo to use when, how to avoid and when to expect torpedoes and stuff like that, but what I never really was able to figure out through tutorials was how to read a map and where to go. The maps largely just remained seemingly chaotic collections of islands and whenever I thought I knew where to go with a battleship, cruiser or destroyer, the next game on the same map always proved wrong what I thought I had just learned. It all just seemed so random and totally dependent on luck whether the path you chose at the beginning would turn out advantageous or not. Of course there is some randomness in WoT too, but nowhere near as bad, in my experience. When it turned out that the enemy heavies for example wouldn't meet my heavy at the usual chokepoint, I could use that fact to my advantage my making a push into their "hinterland". When I tried similar things in WoWS with a battleship, it only resulted in an uneven one on one fight with some invisible destroyer and me frantically dodging his torpedoes the whole match, not contributing anything to the team effort. Maybe that is an effect of the fact that there is a stronger "rock-paper-scissors" mechanic going on in WoWS. When you are in a one on one fight between a heavy tank and a light tank in WoT, there is still things both sides can do, usually and it comes down more on the individual skills of the players. One rarely is totally helpless in WoT, the same way you can be in WoWS. However, I wish there were more WoWS tutorials that tell noobs about the maps and what to do with what type of ship on what map and so on. That is a pretty common thing for WoT, but seemingly impossible to find in WoWS tutorials.
Islands are pretty much useful whatever ship you're in, you just need to think where the other Team are coming from so you won't put yourself in a position where you're flanked. Destroyers can use islands to hide and torpedo ships through narrow channels. Cruisers with good ballistics (arc-firing guns) can use islands to pepper you with HE until you burn to death. Battleships can use them to enhance their own resilience and provide a kind of area denial, as long as they have some idea on where an enemy might be coming from and what type they are (if you know a destroyer is heading for you, it's likely they'll be able to torpedo you the second they come around an island and your guns will just over-pen them at close range). What should actually happen is that everyone should stick together and concentrate target fire, moving as a squadron. Too often people think they can lone-wolf the game and be a hero, but no actual military engagement ever works like that. Real navies use squadrons for surface ships, tanks operate in units and infantry tries to stick to some kind of cohesion even when they have to flank a position. There's also a lot of hunger for kills, with people dashing off at the start of a game even when most times all you need to do is defend the base and wait for the enemy team to mess up.... I've been going through the Tiers as best I can, I'm up to 6 on the Batleships for the US, 5 for the Cruisers and 4 for the Destroyers. The DDs seem the most difficult to play, because your main role is Spotting for the Team and capping Points, so you end up getting shot at by everyone. Cruisers are positional tools, you move from island to island and try to set as many fires as you can to anything in range. Battleships are good for long-range defending and occasional pushes, if you have good backup. What most folks do in BBs though is suicide themselves by pushing into areas thinking their health-pool will keep them safe, but unless you're in some German BB with all points put into Secondary Battery skills, you'll be taken out fast by concentrated fire and just end up giving the other Team an advantage. For CVs, I have no idea, unfortunately. I don't intend to play them because the play style is too different. It's almost like playing an RTS, with the Carrier being your base and the planes being finite squads of units that you send out. I guess some folks like that, but I prefer moving around and having to think where my turrets should be pointing next. The sound design is also pretty good in the game and it feels satisfying to fire at something and hear the guns booming. One thing to not get upset over is the firing RNG. A lot of times it'll seem like you're hitting a target and instead you get splashes around it or ricochets or whatever. It's not like WoT where you have your gun, line up your shot and make it count. On a BB, you'll fire 10 guns and get 2-3 Hits at long range, and it doesn't get better until Tier 8, from what I've seen. It's not even unrealistic. Records of battles even as close as WWII note hundreds of shells fired with only a couple of dozen hits, so in a way we're even getting too much accuracy.... If you can, try to set up shots to fire at the center of ships, as it increases your odds at scoring Citadel hits, or maybe at the bottom of turrets to try and detonate a magazine. Plunging fire will always have better chances at this than level fire, so whenever possible use aircraft spotting to land good shots. Since you played WoT, you probably already know about leading your shots, just remember that the targeting is very different between regular binocular sighting and aircraft spotting (the regular view will let you align the guns far better by setting them up to hit the waterline and in a particular ship area, whereas Spotting view is more of just trying to guess where a ship is heading to and firing far enough ahead of it to land shells on top of the superstructure or turrets).
He's flying a Military Month Contributor Commemoration flag. That was awarded about 4 years ago, so this guy has been around the block. Not surprising he schooled this tier 4 battle.
I always hoped to get onto Jingles' show. I didn't play much of WoWs before giving up entirely, but I did have one battle at tier 3 against AI's where I got high caliber, kraken unleashed and all the usual Jingles medals. It wasn't a replay worth watching because of the impressive gameplay (they were bots) but I thought it would be a perfect case in point about how someone who watched all of Jingles' instructional videos could replicate success if they used them as a template for how to play. And this replay featured EVERYTHING: proper ammo selection, angling against higher caliber guns, torpedo dodging and target selection. It's not long enough for a full video, but it would (I think) make a perfect introductory segment to someone else's amazing game.
I've been playing Warships for 2 weeks now, still working on my Friant (love it, despite it being super squishy) but I've been watching Jingles for about three years. I've learned so much just watching his videos that I noticed I don't do so bad in low tier. He's a good "How to" and "How not to" senpai.
Myogi suffers from the IJN BB problem, while they are more accurate than other BBs its only from 11km and out, inside of that range they become progressively less accurate than other nations BBs, worse than german at sub 8km. The Ishi has the same problem which is why it takes so many shots to kill those dds off his ass and kill that Charleston. Fun and engaging :)
Jingles: "You cannot expect someone in a tier 4 battle to know all those things....." Me: "Because you will never ever play tier 4 again once you have progressed to higher tiers, right?" Uhhhhhhh........or is it? XD
I love lower/mid tier battles. 4-6 is my favorite place to play (I like 7 too but not as much) because I'm not a great player and that's okay there, but also because nobody takes it as seriously as tier 8-10 battles. 1-3 is just a trainwreck though, no tactical thinking at all, just all players acting on instinct.
Me playing Warships: Clear my sector of the map with a teammate or two. "This battle is going great!" Also me a few seconds later: Other side of map is all dead. *honourable sodoku*
I’m a player still in those early to mid level ships who is still trying to figure things out. So I am inconsistent as hell, and still experimenting most games. If it weren’t for guys like Jingles posting vids with helpful tips, It would be even harder to learn why things work the way they do. Moral of the story: if you want better teammates as you climb up the playing ladder, take the time to help folks learn the game. Or just follow the WoT model, getting kills yourself but losing games because of your “noob” team composition...
Paul this is the main problem with WoT and WoWS at the moment. Wargaming aren't really encouraging much sense of community - aside from poor tutorials which don't teach you tactics, there's no proper resource for T3-4-5 players to gain valuable insight into how to play effectively apart from just watching more experienced players, either in-battle or on YT. You've got the forums where you get absolutely flamed for even bothering to ask noobie questions, and if you ask for tips in the in-game chat, invariably you end up getting slated in there. I try to give people help when I play T4 games because that's far more rewarding than straight seal-clubbing.
in former USSR there was an arcade, where you had to hit ships with torpedoes, and those ships would turn around. You can hit same ship several times this way. Wonder if you can hit that boat a second time...
Yes, as a matter of fact I am interested in learning more about this game they call World of Warships, and I am interested in improving my skill level. That's why I watch only the finest educational content here on The Mighty Jingles!
Just glad to see a lower tier match for a change. I never went past tier six because I didn't see the point of spending so much actual money to play a "free" game. Thank you, Jingles!
I really do love seeing lower tier games because they can be informative to players. I remember failing so much at lower tiers because they play different than higher tiers in some cases.
Yep seen that boat twice. BTW, the NA server at 2 am is a hoot of semi-drunk college kids, old farts with strange schedules (me), and the saltiest language on Earth.
Watching Jingles' WoWs videos always gives me a buff of "Noobism Protection" for my 1st match of the day, unfortunaly afterwards it seems as if I forget all the good advices... Greetings from Germany!
Not necessarily m8, alot of clans accept newbie players right off the bat, even just to help them out in the game. Clan bonuses can really make a huge difference when you're just starting
I never played neither world of warships nor WOT pc, and I never missed a jingles video about either of them. I'm a wot blitz player We didn't come for the games jingles we are here because of you.
Jingles, I think your videos are great, and you (along with some others like Notser and Zoup) have helped me be slightly less potato in my playing of this game. One comment, though - you do repeat yourself an awful lot in certain videos. The line about "I wouldn't expect a low tier player to know..." must have been repeated 7-8 times in this video - whilst it's clearly the point you're trying to make, there's no need to reiterate it *every time* an error is made. Just a thought :)
Jingles I've never played WoT or WoWarships on PC ,but I've been watching you for over 6 and a half year back when your channel name was bohemian eagle. I have loved your channel since I started watching. You've made laugh and cry (because of laughter). I look forward to another 6 and a half years of enjoyment. Keep up the great content. Ps my favorite quote from you is (in a low Japanese accent) VERY HONORABLE.
Schooled? Jingles, don’t we basically get taken to school with every video we get from you? LOL!!! Keep up the phenomenal work and long live the King of The Gnomes! -The Tank Commander
I've been playing this game for 3 years now and so I've played a lot of tier 10 battles, but tiers 5 to 7 are the best and the most fun. I think its the blend of player skills at mid-tiers that makes it so.
The player in the ishizuchi is far from a new player he has the "military month contributor" that was only available a while ago (may 2016), so looks like he was seal clubbing. ;)
He wasn't the only one. I saw flags and camos on some of the enemy ships... so they aren't new. They might not be long term veterans, but their accounts have at least some experience on them. The CV rework pushed a lot of players, especially DD players, down into the lower tiers. It's interesting down there now. You can have the usual noob window licking in one match, and then a brutal cutthroat high skill intense game the next.
Surely if that ram had been pulled off it would have been a draw? All ships destroyed on both sides - don't think it goes to points then, or have they changed it?
Just because someone is talking in teamchat doesn't mean they read it or should listen. Let them explore the game on their own. And my first games in pretty much every team game I don't look at chat. Just because I am more focused on the controls, what to do, where to go. I ain't got time to read the chat. I suspect neither did the first casualties in this game.
My good man, there is no need to justify having a good laugh. It's Free! Have another one on Me: My game tag in Wargaming is also my playing style- Poke Bear With Stick. A very entertaining vid Mr. J, keep them coming.
It's smart if the DD doesn't fire and stays undetected and the Myogi knows how to use smoke (ie. understands detectability bloom). But it's rare for even 'experienced' players to get all that right.
There are a lot of experienced players down in the lower tiers these days. A lot of matches come down to the distribution of veterans, and that makes them very lopsided roll overs. In this match it's clear that the red team had experienced players and green had a bunch of new players. Willy played really, really well, though and was able to carry with some luck thrown in.
It's kinda weird what we're seeing here. The community in Warships is so much nicer than in Tanks that even Jingles in his videos doesn't laugh at the noobs when he features them in his Warships videos. But he never had any problems laughing at the noobs in his Tanks vids.
Some of the smoking might have been for their team mates to give them cover, sadly smoke doesn't work like that at such short ranges. In the case of ram at end, it's completely understandable if someone doesn't catch that in the heat of battle even at higher tier. Unless you got team mates who point it out.
I much more enjoyed this video of lower tiers than T10 games :) Also, was good to learn a bit about ships from your commentary... what to do and not do etc.
Jingles, we totally can laugh at them and not feel bad. Ever watch the videos of people giving their infants lemons? Do you laugh at their reactions? Same thing, just the lemons in this case is a virtual 80+ ton warship. If you don't laugh at that kind of thing, then did you ever watch any of Will Sasso's vines?
The AP shells on Ishizuchi are incredibly bad, chances are they still would not have penned that broadside Myogi. The AP is best suited for cruisers but always seem to shatter or bounce on battleships.
I tried to give advice to an M4 Sherman player on console once.... I warned him that there was a KV-2 around the corner, he said "you can't tell me what to do". He then proceeded to turn the corner and get deleted, blaming me the rest of the match for not warning him. I no longer bother with open voice chat on console.
I love low tier fights.. its all tactics ..gun ranges are short so there really is no avoiding the fight, to cause damage you gotta stick your ass out where you can take damage. No fancy widgets.. just guts and gunnery.
I already knew about the toy boat at the beginning. comment here if you also knew P.S. I did not know about the torpedo on the toy boat award. I also did not know that if all ships are destroyed, the team with the most points wins. I thought it would be a draw.
I knew about the toy boat but not the achievement, I did know the points thing, it's one of the reasons draws almost never happen anymore in wows (unlike wot) if the game ends on timer, draw, all killed, whatever: highest points wins.
Actually i've played the game for 4 years now and I still enjoy playing in low Tiers. No radar, no high Rates of Fire and above all: few ace players. I've unlocked many tier 10 ships but to play up there I like swimming in a shark tank. I am simply no good enough.
2 AM in the morning of a school night. Umm Jingles, we have a two and a half months summer break over here in America. I dont know if you guys over there have breaks or not.
I play world of tanks on console and there isn't a service to upload gameplay i can only upload my replays from the ps4 to youtube. Is there any way i can send a replay in to you jingles??
@Jingles - thanks / still always fun / though informative to watch, would be good if you can do a mini series of videos on "how to play" tips / tricks and sneaky moves on WOW :) maybe same for WOT? I'm always learning though seen some crazy maneuvers and tactics from Flambass / in the middle of a video he puts up / same as you do / he shows and says how x y z might go wrong and where to aim / tactics and strategy.... a set of a mini series on how to DD / CC and BB plus CV.... would be fun to watch, turning a negative experience to a better one... plus if the same newbie players to the pro's can share then show from a "bad match" to a "ace match" this would surely improve things, defo including teamwork :) I like to share smoke with a cruiser / if he or she can back up my DD while I go to cap, thanks again
Does the match really go to the team with more points if all ships sink? Wow, I've played like 7k battles and I had no idea! 'supose there's always more to learn.
04:50 - You might be forgiven for thinking that the WoT or WoW NA servers are entirely 'English-speaking' servers... and you'd be wrong. In the Americas, with the exception of Murica and Canada, from the US/Mexico border south, virtually everyone speaks Spanish (with a little Brazilian Portuguese thrown into the mix). Then there are the SE Asians (not just the ANZACs) who often regularly log onto the NA server as well. So issuing such a suggestion at mid tiers (as Willy55 did), is as likely to be understood as it might be on the EU server (though many Europeans are likely to be more bilingual than North Americans, notwithstanding Canada's official bilingual standing (En/Fr) and Murica's very large Spanish speaking minority. Just sayin'
The only problem with Jingles logic, they don't know "why" they fucked up, just they did and are going to repeat the same mistake over and over, thus feeding the "taking a defeat from the jaws of victory" monster...
And the AP shells are made of cheese. But boy do the HE shells wreck town. When you're aiming to break stuff with explosions instead of snipe citadels, it works out. Last game I played in her I broke all the guns off one side of a Charleston with one salvo.
@@OOZ662 I like how you're describing instances which are exactly the reason why Jingles should host more of these low/midtier games. The crazy moments xD
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12:55 pre-turning your guns when turning around in a Battleship or a ship with a slow turret rotation speed is something I see far too rarely, so props to our protagonist Willy for doing something smart, which even a lot of high-tier players seem to forget!
Not just in battleships, even some destroyers work better if you get used to do this on a regular basis. It's how I regularly get gun kills with the Shimakaze, even in tier X some people still ignore how powerful those 120mm can be at close range, chat raging gunboat captains are a real treat in top tier battles :D
It's worth doing in every ship that does not have super fast turret rotation, and even then it doesn't hurt, so 95% chance to be useful, no chance to not be beneficial = always do this.
Shima guns are kinda trash still but the HE shells are pretty damn nice, it's got a pretty heavy broadside for a DD, since the buff they certainly deserve respect. Not that 99% of shima players realize they even have guns, but still ^^
I do this without even knowing i do it so idk why its hard for people to do it
kek I do it in a mino every time lol. takes them forever! :D
Yep, I do it even in my dd's especially if I'm setting up to attack another ship.
6:27 wow, until now I had no idea that "G-101" is how you read "V-170". The more you know...
But remember, we aren't laughing at him because he's stupid but because he's Jingles and he's crap.
@@Shicksalblume To the salt mines with you...
It wouldn't be a true Jingles video without at least one misidentified ship
ACTUALLY, Jingles..
Why do i hear a shotgun being cocked... Jingles?
Still to this day, players learn more off of watching TH-cam vids than any in game tutorial... really makes you think...
Well it makes us think, meanwhile at wargaming HQ... #crickets
lets be real you can learn more on youtube than you can by going through college
No, I see why videos do better. Humans learn better by example.
One thing we DON'T learn here though, is how to identify ships correctly...
@@GorinRedspear well one step at time. Jingles is learning and distracted by a cat.
@@shawn6860 cats are the best thing ever so its easy to understand why he would be distracted
2 team members dead, of 6… must be 2/5 of your team jingles…
The only logical explanation is that Jingels excluded the featured player from his counting, that way 2/5 is a correct statement.
@@redosprey1334 He said 2/5 of his team members at one point and later on he switches to team.
Or even 1/3...
He is ex-navy after all.
Well, now we know that mathematics is not the strenghth of our gnome lord.....
“If you have a defection range of 6km and a torpedo range of 7km, but your target is sailing away from you at 25kts... and a train leaves the kholberg station at 3pm headed to Berlin.”
And now every achievmenf hunter will play the operation until they get it :D...
4:35 Of course no one listened, he said it in English. At that time, many of the players on the NA server are from South America and Spanish & Portuguese are often the languages of choice.
Jingles: says anything
Me as someone who just began because of his videos:
Write the down write that down
Me at 2am: "Man, I hope jingles uploads another wow video soon..."
Me at 3:30am: *h o t d a m n*
“2 o’clock in the morning on a school night”
Actually, Jingles, it’s summer break for us...
Casey Hubauer yeah. But is probably a replay from before the break.
Since it’s the NA server, it really doesn’t matter **tumbleweed wooshes by**
@@dylannix4289 are you sure? i dont think anyone is online to see if a tumbleweed goes by or not in all honesty
#oldpeople
"School night" is also English slang for a night where the next day will be a normal working day (Monday - Friday) For example I might say: "I went to the pub last night and got completely rat-faced and now Im suffering. I should have known better than to go out with the lads on a school night."
I'm pretty sure the "insert coin" achievement is in reference to many of the old school torpedo alley arcade cabinets like Midway games's 1969 Sea Raider, which had physical cutouts of ships on the "horizon" that you'd send a torpedo out to and blow up for points.
Edit: I will also point out that Sea Raider had the cutouts u-turn when you successfully hit them.
Tier 4: trainwreck
Tier 7: trainwreck
tier10: still trainwreck
dont really see any differences
yeah, sounds like just another normal saturday afternoon in World of Warships
There's one difference.
The trains are bigger.
Yup, in low tiers ships are inaccurate enough to make yolo rushing BB r even some cruisers with a DD and shotgun torping them work more often than not, and especially in low tiers when people still have the "CoD atitude" most of the time, getting a kill and dying for it is seen as worth because their KD is neutral. Imo that is one of the worst things about the learning curve for DD, as around t6 that very definitively ends, and that's not even including the fact you'll mostly be seeing t8
Well you said the difference. Tier 10 is a still train wreck. Everyone camps because they don’t want to take risks, and guys who try to push for objectives are singled out and destroyed. For the most part at least.
Anybody here after just watching Jingles upload the same video called "a mans gotta do" a month after this one🤣, oh Jingles never change
Yep lol.
Please do show more mid-tier and low-rise gameplay
Lemme guess, commented from your phone?
Most of these videos of high scoring t4-5 games are people with 5k+ games played and lots of t10 ships coming to low tier with a 19pt captain to seal club though.
I only played the game a little. I started relatively early, back when the game was still pretty new and there only were American and Japanese ships, but when you combine all the time I played, you probably get less than a week worth of actual playtime. I always tried it, played a few matches, then lost interest again and then repeated that process a few years later. My highest ranking ship was a fully upgraded Kongo battleship and it was my only tier 5, even though I technically have been playing the game since the early days.
I am actually one of those players who watches a lot of TH-cam videos to prepare and learn as much as I can, before trying one of those games out.
That served me well with World Of Tanks, which I played a lot more than World Of Warships. Being prepared that way enabled me to "turn green" (stats-wise) after about 6000 matches in WoT, which apparently tends to take a lot longer for most players who don't watch tutorials.
I ultimately rage quit WoT too (more for meta game reasons, because what they were doing with the Premium tanks and with Super Heavies, which were disgustingly overpowered at the time, annoyed me too much), but I was pretty used to being the highest ranking player in most matched I played, to getting around 2000 to 3000 points of damage done and to occasionally hold my own against "Unicum" players, or ruin their match by being the one guy who doesn't walk into their traps.
The point being that watching tutorials helped me a lot with WoT. I knew where to go with what kind of tank and what to do there, how to angle armor, how to shoot weak spots, how to utilize cover and so on, basically before I even started playing the game.
However, I could never replicate that success with World Of Warships. I learned stuff from tutorials, like how to angle armor, what ammo to use when, how to avoid and when to expect torpedoes and stuff like that, but what I never really was able to figure out through tutorials was how to read a map and where to go.
The maps largely just remained seemingly chaotic collections of islands and whenever I thought I knew where to go with a battleship, cruiser or destroyer, the next game on the same map always proved wrong what I thought I had just learned.
It all just seemed so random and totally dependent on luck whether the path you chose at the beginning would turn out advantageous or not.
Of course there is some randomness in WoT too, but nowhere near as bad, in my experience. When it turned out that the enemy heavies for example wouldn't meet my heavy at the usual chokepoint, I could use that fact to my advantage my making a push into their "hinterland". When I tried similar things in WoWS with a battleship, it only resulted in an uneven one on one fight with some invisible destroyer and me frantically dodging his torpedoes the whole match, not contributing anything to the team effort.
Maybe that is an effect of the fact that there is a stronger "rock-paper-scissors" mechanic going on in WoWS. When you are in a one on one fight between a heavy tank and a light tank in WoT, there is still things both sides can do, usually and it comes down more on the individual skills of the players. One rarely is totally helpless in WoT, the same way you can be in WoWS.
However, I wish there were more WoWS tutorials that tell noobs about the maps and what to do with what type of ship on what map and so on. That is a pretty common thing for WoT, but seemingly impossible to find in WoWS tutorials.
Islands are pretty much useful whatever ship you're in, you just need to think where the other Team are coming from so you won't put yourself in a position where you're flanked.
Destroyers can use islands to hide and torpedo ships through narrow channels.
Cruisers with good ballistics (arc-firing guns) can use islands to pepper you with HE until you burn to death.
Battleships can use them to enhance their own resilience and provide a kind of area denial, as long as they have some idea on where an enemy might be coming from and what type they are (if you know a destroyer is heading for you, it's likely they'll be able to torpedo you the second they come around an island and your guns will just over-pen them at close range).
What should actually happen is that everyone should stick together and concentrate target fire, moving as a squadron. Too often people think they can lone-wolf the game and be a hero, but no actual military engagement ever works like that. Real navies use squadrons for surface ships, tanks operate in units and infantry tries to stick to some kind of cohesion even when they have to flank a position.
There's also a lot of hunger for kills, with people dashing off at the start of a game even when most times all you need to do is defend the base and wait for the enemy team to mess up.... I've been going through the Tiers as best I can, I'm up to 6 on the Batleships for the US, 5 for the Cruisers and 4 for the Destroyers. The DDs seem the most difficult to play, because your main role is Spotting for the Team and capping Points, so you end up getting shot at by everyone. Cruisers are positional tools, you move from island to island and try to set as many fires as you can to anything in range. Battleships are good for long-range defending and occasional pushes, if you have good backup.
What most folks do in BBs though is suicide themselves by pushing into areas thinking their health-pool will keep them safe, but unless you're in some German BB with all points put into Secondary Battery skills, you'll be taken out fast by concentrated fire and just end up giving the other Team an advantage.
For CVs, I have no idea, unfortunately. I don't intend to play them because the play style is too different. It's almost like playing an RTS, with the Carrier being your base and the planes being finite squads of units that you send out. I guess some folks like that, but I prefer moving around and having to think where my turrets should be pointing next. The sound design is also pretty good in the game and it feels satisfying to fire at something and hear the guns booming.
One thing to not get upset over is the firing RNG. A lot of times it'll seem like you're hitting a target and instead you get splashes around it or ricochets or whatever. It's not like WoT where you have your gun, line up your shot and make it count. On a BB, you'll fire 10 guns and get 2-3 Hits at long range, and it doesn't get better until Tier 8, from what I've seen. It's not even unrealistic. Records of battles even as close as WWII note hundreds of shells fired with only a couple of dozen hits, so in a way we're even getting too much accuracy.... If you can, try to set up shots to fire at the center of ships, as it increases your odds at scoring Citadel hits, or maybe at the bottom of turrets to try and detonate a magazine. Plunging fire will always have better chances at this than level fire, so whenever possible use aircraft spotting to land good shots.
Since you played WoT, you probably already know about leading your shots, just remember that the targeting is very different between regular binocular sighting and aircraft spotting (the regular view will let you align the guns far better by setting them up to hit the waterline and in a particular ship area, whereas Spotting view is more of just trying to guess where a ship is heading to and firing far enough ahead of it to land shells on top of the superstructure or turrets).
"Myogi is the most accurate tier 4 battleship in the game."
-Jingles, 2019
He's flying a Military Month Contributor Commemoration flag. That was awarded about 4 years ago, so this guy has been around the block. Not surprising he schooled this tier 4 battle.
I always hoped to get onto Jingles' show. I didn't play much of WoWs before giving up entirely, but I did have one battle at tier 3 against AI's where I got high caliber, kraken unleashed and all the usual Jingles medals. It wasn't a replay worth watching because of the impressive gameplay (they were bots) but I thought it would be a perfect case in point about how someone who watched all of Jingles' instructional videos could replicate success if they used them as a template for how to play. And this replay featured EVERYTHING: proper ammo selection, angling against higher caliber guns, torpedo dodging and target selection. It's not long enough for a full video, but it would (I think) make a perfect introductory segment to someone else's amazing game.
I've been playing Warships for 2 weeks now, still working on my Friant (love it, despite it being super squishy) but I've been watching Jingles for about three years. I've learned so much just watching his videos that I noticed I don't do so bad in low tier.
He's a good "How to" and "How not to" senpai.
Jungles, this is an online multiplayer game. Expecting people to learn from their mistakes is like expecting them to be good sports about loosing...
Love seeing some lower tier gameplay for a change. More of this! Great video as always.
Another flipping Jingles mistake vid is just what I needed this afternoon... Fantastic kill on that "G-101" there! :D
Jingles, thank you for featuring my replay.
Myogi suffers from the IJN BB problem, while they are more accurate than other BBs its only from 11km and out, inside of that range they become progressively less accurate than other nations BBs, worse than german at sub 8km. The Ishi has the same problem which is why it takes so many shots to kill those dds off his ass and kill that Charleston. Fun and engaging :)
Jingles: "You cannot expect someone in a tier 4 battle to know all those things....."
Me: "Because you will never ever play tier 4 again once you have progressed to higher tiers, right?" Uhhhhhhh........or is it? XD
As a low level WoWS player I appreciate these videos really much, because they help me correct my mistakes or avoid making them in the first place!
I love lower/mid tier battles. 4-6 is my favorite place to play (I like 7 too but not as much) because I'm not a great player and that's okay there, but also because nobody takes it as seriously as tier 8-10 battles.
1-3 is just a trainwreck though, no tactical thinking at all, just all players acting on instinct.
Me playing Warships: Clear my sector of the map with a teammate or two. "This battle is going great!"
Also me a few seconds later: Other side of map is all dead.
*honourable sodoku*
Just played a game in Mahan where I killed all four enemy destroyers. The rest of the team managed to kill two enemy and one allied cruisers.
I’m a player still in those early to mid level ships who is still trying to figure things out. So I am inconsistent as hell, and still experimenting most games. If it weren’t for guys like Jingles posting vids with helpful tips, It would be even harder to learn why things work the way they do.
Moral of the story: if you want better teammates as you climb up the playing ladder, take the time to help folks learn the game. Or just follow the WoT model, getting kills yourself but losing games because of your “noob” team composition...
I love that you make the point that they didn’t know any better.
Paul this is the main problem with WoT and WoWS at the moment. Wargaming aren't really encouraging much sense of community - aside from poor tutorials which don't teach you tactics, there's no proper resource for T3-4-5 players to gain valuable insight into how to play effectively apart from just watching more experienced players, either in-battle or on YT. You've got the forums where you get absolutely flamed for even bothering to ask noobie questions, and if you ask for tips in the in-game chat, invariably you end up getting slated in there. I try to give people help when I play T4 games because that's far more rewarding than straight seal-clubbing.
I believe the statement you are looking for is "You're not the boss of me".
I gotta admit, I'm more than casual, but I don't get to play as much as I like. I have a Tier 10, the Hindenburg, and I love her
US destroyers will make BANKS because no reload on 5 inch dakka spammers!
in former USSR there was an arcade, where you had to hit ships with torpedoes, and those ships would turn around. You can hit same ship several times this way. Wonder if you can hit that boat a second time...
I clicked on this as soon as I got the notification I love your videos
Yes, as a matter of fact I am interested in learning more about this game they call World of Warships, and I am interested in improving my skill level. That's why I watch only the finest educational content here on The Mighty Jingles!
Actually Jingles, I live vicariously. I have never played this game, but love listening/watching your WoW games. Infinitely more than WoT.
I don't even play World of Warships or World of Tanks. I just watch Jingles for the commentary!
The Isokaze laid out smoke exactly like the Bots in Co-op. Perhaps the birthplace of poor habits?
Just glad to see a lower tier match for a change. I never went past tier six because I didn't see the point of spending so much actual money to play a "free" game. Thank you, Jingles!
If I had a dime for every time Jingles reminded us that they're noobs cause they're new...
Some are still noobs and not even new 😂
I especially love how he keeps saying "I'm not laughing at them, but..." the entire game long XD
I really do love seeing lower tier games because they can be informative to players. I remember failing so much at lower tiers because they play different than higher tiers in some cases.
Yep seen that boat twice. BTW, the NA server at 2 am is a hoot of semi-drunk college kids, old farts with strange schedules (me), and the saltiest language on Earth.
Watching Jingles' WoWs videos always gives me a buff of "Noobism Protection" for my 1st match of the day, unfortunaly afterwards it seems as if I forget all the good advices... Greetings from Germany!
sometimes it bugs out and gives you a DEFEAT: ALL ALLIED SHIPS DESTROYED message instead
6:15 He probably had HE loaded more because the Ishizuchi's guns are kind of shit, but the HE is okayish.
Actually Jingles, the Isokaze player was in a clan so he could be higher tier on a different ship.
Not necessarily m8, alot of clans accept newbie players right off the bat, even just to help them out in the game. Clan bonuses can really make a huge difference when you're just starting
@@naggarond But I think that you need to be at least at a certain level to unlock clans and I was tier 6 when I got the possibility to join a clan
@@prophetdeceitful4444 true, but he might have 2 or 3 lines at tier 4-5 max and tier 6 account isnt really hard to reach that way
@@naggarond yeah
I never played neither world of warships nor WOT pc, and I never missed a jingles video about either of them.
I'm a wot blitz player
We didn't come for the games jingles we are here because of you.
Actually jingles last I knew when both teams ran out of ships simultaneously it resulted in a draw
I'm almost sure he's correct. They have gone to some effort to prevent draws from happening at all.
Jingles, I think your videos are great, and you (along with some others like Notser and Zoup) have helped me be slightly less potato in my playing of this game. One comment, though - you do repeat yourself an awful lot in certain videos. The line about "I wouldn't expect a low tier player to know..." must have been repeated 7-8 times in this video - whilst it's clearly the point you're trying to make, there's no need to reiterate it *every time* an error is made. Just a thought :)
Jingles I've never played WoT or WoWarships on PC ,but I've been watching you for over 6 and a half year back when your channel name was bohemian eagle. I have loved your channel since I started watching. You've made laugh and cry (because of laughter). I look forward to another 6 and a half years of enjoyment. Keep up the great content. Ps my favorite quote from you is (in a low Japanese accent) VERY HONORABLE.
Schooled? Jingles, don’t we basically get taken to school with every video we get from you? LOL!!! Keep up the phenomenal work and long live the King of The Gnomes! -The Tank Commander
Really enjoyed this one, thanks Jingles 😁
I've been playing this game for 3 years now and so I've played a lot of tier 10 battles, but tiers 5 to 7 are the best and the most fun. I think its the blend of player skills at mid-tiers that makes it so.
He has a military day flag that was given out maybe 3 years ago? And he plays at tier 4
Came back to grind up a new nation or tech tree?
Thank you for getting all of us excited for yet another Seal Clubber's paradise of a weekend. Cheers!
The player in the ishizuchi is far from a new player he has the "military month contributor" that was only available a while ago (may 2016), so looks like he was seal clubbing. ;)
And got clubbed.
He wasn't the only one. I saw flags and camos on some of the enemy ships... so they aren't new. They might not be long term veterans, but their accounts have at least some experience on them. The CV rework pushed a lot of players, especially DD players, down into the lower tiers. It's interesting down there now. You can have the usual noob window licking in one match, and then a brutal cutthroat high skill intense game the next.
Hey the first clip was my clan! Hell yeah ARGSY!!
More of this sort of thing, please. I'd rather learn from other people's mistakes.
Surely if that ram had been pulled off it would have been a draw? All ships destroyed on both sides - don't think it goes to points then, or have they changed it?
Yes, definetely a draw
I love watching the AA guns fire
Just because someone is talking in teamchat doesn't mean they read it or should listen. Let them explore the game on their own. And my first games in pretty much every team game I don't look at chat. Just because I am more focused on the controls, what to do, where to go. I ain't got time to read the chat. I suspect neither did the first casualties in this game.
My good man, there is no need to justify having a good laugh. It's Free! Have another one on Me: My game tag in Wargaming is also my playing style- Poke Bear With Stick. A very entertaining vid Mr. J, keep them coming.
The Izokaze wasn't smoking for himself, but for the Myogi . Whether that's smart is another thing.
It's smart if the DD doesn't fire and stays undetected and the Myogi knows how to use smoke (ie. understands detectability bloom). But it's rare for even 'experienced' players to get all that right.
That triangular flag Willy is running means he has been playing a long time. Willy went clubbing in that match.
I never laugh at someone who gets lost or misses the train, bus, or airplane seemingly every time he travels. :-)
There are a lot of experienced players down in the lower tiers these days. A lot of matches come down to the distribution of veterans, and that makes them very lopsided roll overs. In this match it's clear that the red team had experienced players and green had a bunch of new players. Willy played really, really well, though and was able to carry with some luck thrown in.
I wish I could go back to World of Warships. My computer just can't handle it though due to hard drive space
Greetings from the future!
I gotta say, the Isikazi is the most attractive ship that I have ever seen...
"It's just a St Louis" might be said by a tier 4 carrier player - they're pretty easy targets from the air.
they have like NO AA defense so yeep FREE XP AND CREDITS!
It's kinda weird what we're seeing here. The community in Warships is so much nicer than in Tanks that even Jingles in his videos doesn't laugh at the noobs when he features them in his Warships videos. But he never had any problems laughing at the noobs in his Tanks vids.
Last time I was this early it was when Jingles was visiting the Belfast in London.
I was 1667th. Earliest ever.
Some of the smoking might have been for their team mates to give them cover, sadly smoke doesn't work like that at such short ranges. In the case of ram at end, it's completely understandable if someone doesn't catch that in the heat of battle even at higher tier. Unless you got team mates who point it out.
I much more enjoyed this video of lower tiers than T10 games :)
Also, was good to learn a bit about ships from your commentary... what to do and not do etc.
""Natural selection at work" 😂
Jingles, we totally can laugh at them and not feel bad. Ever watch the videos of people giving their infants lemons? Do you laugh at their reactions? Same thing, just the lemons in this case is a virtual 80+ ton warship. If you don't laugh at that kind of thing, then did you ever watch any of Will Sasso's vines?
here from the future saying that this video has appeared again
Do the cars fly yet.
Me: *At work*
Jingles: *Uploads video*
Me: “Goddamn it Jingles..”
Maybe someone needs to let Willey know about AP shells....
The AP shells on Ishizuchi are incredibly bad, chances are they still would not have penned that broadside Myogi. The AP is best suited for cruisers but always seem to shatter or bounce on battleships.
Jingles, sealclubbing in tier 3 and 4 in the USS Wyoming.
Elliott Gbadehan wyoming doesnt exist
I tried to give advice to an M4 Sherman player on console once.... I warned him that there was a KV-2 around the corner, he said "you can't tell me what to do". He then proceeded to turn the corner and get deleted, blaming me the rest of the match for not warning him. I no longer bother with open voice chat on console.
I dont even play these games, i just find it relaxing to watch :)
Hey Jingles. I have never played ya tank, ship, or any of the other games you feature. I just like your videos, commentary, war stories etc.
I love low tier fights.. its all tactics ..gun ranges are short so there really is no avoiding the fight, to cause damage you gotta stick your ass out where you can take damage. No fancy widgets.. just guts and gunnery.
I already knew about the toy boat at the beginning. comment here if you also knew
P.S. I did not know about the torpedo on the toy boat award.
I also did not know that if all ships are destroyed, the team with the most points wins. I thought it would be a draw.
I knew about the toy boat but not the achievement, I did know the points thing, it's one of the reasons draws almost never happen anymore in wows (unlike wot) if the game ends on timer, draw, all killed, whatever: highest points wins.
Jingles is wrong, if all ships die it is a draw.
Jokes on you Jingles, I've never even played this game!
Actually i've played the game for 4 years now and I still enjoy playing in low Tiers. No radar, no high Rates of Fire and above all: few ace players. I've unlocked many tier 10 ships but to play up there I like swimming in a shark tank. I am simply no good enough.
2 AM in the morning of a school night. Umm Jingles, we have a two and a half months summer break over here in America. I dont know if you guys over there have breaks or not.
haha love you comments, i only downloaded the game and started playing because of watching your videos
thanks, I need all the help I can get and appreciate u pointing much this stuff out to me, cheers.
I play world of tanks on console and there isn't a service to upload gameplay i can only upload my replays from the ps4 to youtube. Is there any way i can send a replay in to you jingles??
@Jingles - thanks / still always fun / though informative to watch, would be good if you can do a mini series of videos on "how to play" tips / tricks and sneaky moves on WOW :) maybe same for WOT? I'm always learning though seen some crazy maneuvers and tactics from Flambass / in the middle of a video he puts up / same as you do / he shows and says how x y z might go wrong and where to aim / tactics and strategy.... a set of a mini series on how to DD / CC and BB plus CV.... would be fun to watch, turning a negative experience to a better one... plus if the same newbie players to the pro's can share then show from a "bad match" to a "ace match" this would surely improve things, defo including teamwork :) I like to share smoke with a cruiser / if he or she can back up my DD while I go to cap, thanks again
Jingles, he didn't load HE b/c DDs, Ishi should basically only be using HE since the AP is defective (like the Amagi).
Does the match really go to the team with more points if all ships sink? Wow, I've played like 7k battles and I had no idea! 'supose there's always more to learn.
i bet Jingles puts in those G101 Moments on Purpose :p …. that cant be real failing anymore ^^
On Asia server 7am on tier 1 random match, you can sometimes get 1 v 1 match, it's pretty fun
YOU'RE NOT MY WOWS SUPERVISOR!!!1!
04:50 - You might be forgiven for thinking that the WoT or WoW NA servers are entirely 'English-speaking' servers... and you'd be wrong.
In the Americas, with the exception of Murica and Canada, from the US/Mexico border south, virtually everyone speaks Spanish (with a little Brazilian Portuguese thrown into the mix). Then there are the SE Asians (not just the ANZACs) who often regularly log onto the NA server as well. So issuing such a suggestion at mid tiers (as Willy55 did), is as likely to be understood as it might be on the EU server (though many Europeans are likely to be more bilingual than North Americans, notwithstanding Canada's official bilingual standing (En/Fr) and Murica's very large Spanish speaking minority.
Just sayin'
The only problem with Jingles logic, they don't know "why" they fucked up, just they did and are going to repeat the same mistake over and over, thus feeding the "taking a defeat from the jaws of victory" monster...
the dispersion on the Ischi's guns make the guns on the Great Freddy look amazingly accurate :/
And the AP shells are made of cheese. But boy do the HE shells wreck town. When you're aiming to break stuff with explosions instead of snipe citadels, it works out. Last game I played in her I broke all the guns off one side of a Charleston with one salvo.
@@OOZ662 that sounds pretty freakin awesome, even the cheese part. Who doesn't like cheese?
In the same match, one of the destroyers I floomphed put in chat, "the hell was that? I just get hit with the shells of the gods?"
@@OOZ662 I like how you're describing instances which are exactly the reason why Jingles should host more of these low/midtier games. The crazy moments xD