I have just finished the herb/mine component of this method ~ nearly level 78. Takeaways - phial of truesight is a must, also get pact of the weaver for gathering speed increase.
Thanks for your videos!! really helps new players getting into making gold. My Deepgrove roots never seem to go green, even though im level 35 in Herbalism already, and also handed in the weekly quest at the trainer. I've tried everything :(
While this is a pretty cool way to get a lot of Acuity, the knowledge point catchup for non-gathering/enchanting professions is still pretty miserable (its via patron orders so its both expensive and timegated). The difference between how easy it is to catchup for gathering/enchanting compared to crafting professions is just wild in general. Another problem with this is that you can't do this on a character you've already invested in (if you have recipes bought with gold/acuity, you lose them if you drop the profession).
100% agree that the catch up for crafting professions is miserable, they should at least make it so glimmers can potentially give more knowledge if the patreon order is expensive.
@@kaychak807 yeah, or they could spawn a ton more patron orders with the catchup currency. There's nothing stopping them from giving the player like 50+ orders at the same time instead of 10 or whatever it is atm. They could also then set the quality requirements on those catchup orders specifically to only require rank 1. I honestly find it weird that CATCHUP orders require rank 2 (at least for alchemy they do) - like, if it's a catchup system, its meant to be easy, no? that's the whole point, why rank 2? Many easy ways they can tweak this
For the shimmering dust you get it 100% of the time while you still have them remaining if you DE epics so you can buy the darkmoon decks and disenchant them if you want to spend a little gold
Kaychak, I would consider using the Kej KP boost from the spinner vendor rather than the 400 Acuity book just to give more leeway to acuity profession recipes for whatever the final crafter end state is aimed at making.
You can’t lose gold mining and herbing, you can defiantly lose gold by crafting. This strategy is great for getting you mining to a stage where it can make a lot more gold.
One thing id like to add to the Disenchanting part it seems like purple items gives a 100% drop chance for the shimmering dusts, iv been using darkmoon decks by combining the cards (should be 90-130g per deck on eu right now)
On my server/region its a bit more expensive (25g per card for the cheapest deck, so like 200g per deck), but I was able to catch-up 63 KP for like 12k gold total. Great deal, great comment, thanks for the tip!
Which Profession suits the best for this? I have the feeling that mostly weapons are requested. Many cloth and leather items arent BIS so they arent needed. Am i wrong?
Excellent video. Will say, if you're like me, not stellar luck in games, the herb/mining part will be a multiple day endavor. 🤣 Ever considered doing a guide on TSM? Been watching a few, trying to get into TSM. But the ones I've found haven't really been that good and most of them are years old.
My god, I didn't know you had to do the gathering weekly to get the catch-up knowledge. No wonder my gathering alt seemed so far behind on knowledge, built it last week with the null stone weekly & refused to spend that much, plus I didn't remember to hand in till later in the week.
Would it be worth it to do this even if i have 2 of the professions i want on that char at lvl 100 and have 1 blue tool in each with 70-80 kp? Still kinda feels worth it just to get all tools, all books and so on. Feeling extremely starved for AA all the time on all my alts. Edit; What happens to my tools for the professions that i unlearn ? I could store them in my bags no problem i guess? Also, what happens to the KP i had before? I guess its gone but crafting the items again would give 1 kp each, right?
Dropping a profession loses you recipes you know and your profession skill level. Knowledge stays the same and gear will get dumped into your backpacks. Sucks having a character will 2 professions this expansion 😞
Hey, maybe I'm missing something, but I'm at 175 Acuity right now and with 50/50 of Roots/Sliver left. Am I missing something, as adding it all up doesn't really add up to the ~1000 you had in the video
My current gold making crafter is alchemy / enchanting. I am behind on my tools due to Acuity. I can see the first part being beneficial, but since my points are spent, I don’t suppose I can benefit from enchanting? Is there a workaround to this? Any other prof to substitute?
You should do enchanting patron orders before all the first time crafts as those orders will be first time crafts. Doing it the other way requires more crafts. Also, skinning is easier imo than herb or mining as you can skin in pretty much one spot with a little trick (I can share that trick if you like).
You are 100% right about the enchanting patreon orders. The skinning thing can be better. I'm on a low population server, so can't easily just go to bee area and skin other people's kills, and have terrible gear so can't get into farming groups. I imagine for a lot of players it could be better but defiantly not for me.
Yo kaychak, been watching some time now, still not sure what i wanna do on my main or my alt. New to AH and this stuff, i have mining and blacksmithing, pretty sure i botched the blacksmithing tree nodes. Mining i put so i can mine while still mounted and then going for bismuth. I saw the m+ profession video and im wondering if you think i should do this catch up on my main and switch to alchemy maybe? Cause i dont get anything from blacksmithing gold wise and alchemy seems like it can still get me some gold on the side. And focus on enchanting on my main. would love some tips. Everything is so expensive on ah, or i might just go herb and mining and just farm mats and sell on AH. Any thoughts?
On any "main" character I would do alchemy purely because it can save you huge amounts of gold over the expansion if your going to be using flasks regularly, see this video if you haven't already th-cam.com/video/SHUTZg856DI/w-d-xo.html Mining and herbing is solid too but you could also just set that up on an alt and use that whenever you want to farm. If your not going to dedicated time to just farming with mining and herbing and just mean picking up herbs as you fly around doing other stuff then it's probably not worth it.
Weren't you saying just about a week ago that if we didn't have everything perfectly set up by then, we were never going to catch up and make a profit? Has this shuffle you're describing changed the game that much?
This allows people to pretty much catch-up instantly, or at least as far as crafting costs is concerned anyway. I'm sure I mention it in the video that I still think that the majority of players are better off doing concentration builds over regular "active" crafting. That being said, if someone is dedicated over the course of the expansion then they can make a decent amount of gold, but ya, most will be better off with the easy concentration builds. My last video was helping viewers craft for a profit. I may not think it's the best decision for viewers to be pushing to be crafters with how the markets are but that's doesn't mean I won't stop helping them trying to make gold from it.
Hey Kaychak, worthit currently says farming cloth/inscription is the best GP per hour. Please can you do a build for farming mats with those professions? Thank you very much
I havnt done any of that sort of farming this expansion so I wont do a video about it, as I’ll only talk about what I have good expertise in. I don’t want to just pretend I know what I’m talking about.
It looked like you were disenchanting hundreds of thousands of gold worth of blues and greens, is there a substantial barrier of entry that you need to already have enough gold to fund that?
Nah it's super cheap, I just had loads of random blues to get rid off, you should use cheap stuff, I should have made this clearer in the video. The pinned comment is good advice, Darkmoon decks cost basically nothing.
The weakaura was updated rather recently to show the catch-up, if you've been using it a while check that yours is up to date. It's possible that you missed something and have catch-up available@@jayryan1956
Tried doing this for around 30 minutes after completing the weekly quest...still wasn't getting them to drop. Turns out if darkmoon faire is up, that weekly needs to be completed as well.
are the catch up items for mining and herb completely random? Ive been doing nothing but mining an herb for days now and still need 50 each of the Roots and Slivers
@@kaychak807 is there something I am doing wrong maybe? I had just hit 100 in mining and herb very recently, the only items remaining that show on my weakaura are Unique's and then the Roots/Slivers. Do you prefer to farm only the shiny nodes, or do you gather everything no matter what, do my tools matter? I am rocking base +4 tools. I am kinda lost as to why this is taking to long for me. I get a root/sliver maybe every 10 nodes. Any bit of extra info would be greatly appreciated
It's hard to say exactly as I was doing a lot of this whilst doing other stuff on multiple accounts more of the time so not really concentrating on it. It is time consuming though, I think I got to level 75-76 in total.
@@kaychak807 I started mining and herbing on my character at 71 and at 78 I still need 40+ of each Mining and Herb drop. I used a Truesight Phial and everything and I'm still struggling to get the drops. Is there something I'm missing here?
Something really wrong, your higher level than me and I have done everything so also got all the experience from crafting as well. Are they dropping for you at all? Very odd. It's time consuming for sure, but you should have been done ages ago.
@@kaychak807 yeah it felt time consuming so I did the weeklies/patron shuffle and got enough for what I wanted, but still felt slow. 6 levels from pure mining/herb sounds very tedious :(
seeing how the economy dropped since last week, I don't really know how to make profit, even with the catch-up mechanics... it looks like nothing is worth anything anymore
For the stuff that I sell I'm finding profit margins are the same as what they were this time last week (although Thursday to Saturday sucked). Selling prices are much lower but so are materials.
I have no idea what you are talking about. The video is about "catching up", but if you are someone in that situation like myself, you act as if we already know what "artisans acuity" is from the start. If I knew that I wouldn't be here watching a video about catching up. You never explain "artisans acuity" where it came comes from, what it does, ETC. What good is a catch up video that doesn't explain what subject of the video is?
I'm sorry you didnt get what you want from the video but this isn't a complete basic War Within profession guide, this is a more advanced guide. You need to understand the basic profession system before you worry about catching up in a very competitive environment. I can't cover the basics of War Within professions in every video as it would massively bloat video run times, at this point in the expansion I have covered it many times in videos and the majority of viewers know what I'm talking about.
I love how your videos are to the point and don't beat around the bush instead of playing a 3 minute intro to get us to buy a gold guide
I have wanted to put a bait windup joke gold guide selling thing in a video for ages, it's just effort to put the joke in 😀
Lmao i think I would cry I got my chemo coming up so hopefully your streaming 😅 cause it's boring
This comment gave me a good laugh but it's soo true.
@Jbjb-qp9ux and the info is just reused material from another channel who posted it 4 hours ago lol
That really sucks
I started kinda late in this xpac just like a week ago butnyour vids help me get my crafting up to speed GJ
So happy they added this to the game.
This weakaura is a lifesaver, thank you!
I have just finished the herb/mine component of this method ~ nearly level 78. Takeaways - phial of truesight is a must, also get pact of the weaver for gathering speed increase.
The weaver buff is something I should have mentioned on the video, good point.
What is this? I'm trying to make some serious gold lol
great video break down. I netted a ton of skill points and just started enchanting tier 3 chests $$$
Thanks for your videos!! really helps new players getting into making gold. My Deepgrove roots never seem to go green, even though im level 35 in Herbalism already, and also handed in the weekly quest at the trainer. I've tried everything :(
Have you collected the weekly knowledge items from doing herbalism as well?
While this is a pretty cool way to get a lot of Acuity, the knowledge point catchup for non-gathering/enchanting professions is still pretty miserable (its via patron orders so its both expensive and timegated). The difference between how easy it is to catchup for gathering/enchanting compared to crafting professions is just wild in general. Another problem with this is that you can't do this on a character you've already invested in (if you have recipes bought with gold/acuity, you lose them if you drop the profession).
100% agree that the catch up for crafting professions is miserable, they should at least make it so glimmers can potentially give more knowledge if the patreon order is expensive.
@@kaychak807 yeah, or they could spawn a ton more patron orders with the catchup currency. There's nothing stopping them from giving the player like 50+ orders at the same time instead of 10 or whatever it is atm. They could also then set the quality requirements on those catchup orders specifically to only require rank 1. I honestly find it weird that CATCHUP orders require rank 2 (at least for alchemy they do) - like, if it's a catchup system, its meant to be easy, no? that's the whole point, why rank 2? Many easy ways they can tweak this
For the shimmering dust you get it 100% of the time while you still have them remaining if you DE epics so you can buy the darkmoon decks and disenchant them if you want to spend a little gold
Ya, 100% I should have talked about this in the video, I just had left over rare's I needed to get rid off.
This going to be helpful once I start to crank out my second account main crafters won't start until the warbank changes have been implemented.
That patch seems like it should be any week now ..
Kaychak, I would consider using the Kej KP boost from the spinner vendor rather than the 400 Acuity book just to give more leeway to acuity profession recipes for whatever the final crafter end state is aimed at making.
Do you have a video about min maxing herb and mining, or is crafting in general just better for gold profit?
You can’t lose gold mining and herbing, you can defiantly lose gold by crafting. This strategy is great for getting you mining to a stage where it can make a lot more gold.
One thing id like to add to the Disenchanting part it seems like purple items gives a 100% drop chance for the shimmering dusts, iv been using darkmoon decks by combining the cards (should be 90-130g per deck on eu right now)
Pinning this comment, as it's good advice.
On my server/region its a bit more expensive (25g per card for the cheapest deck, so like 200g per deck), but I was able to catch-up 63 KP for like 12k gold total. Great deal, great comment, thanks for the tip!
As always, great video!
Thank you, hope it helps.
Skinning is great for this, I found it faster then both herb and mining don't know if I got lucky but the drop rate seemed almost double
If you do it in a group then it is for sure, if your geared then perhaps, but all my character's are under geared so suck at it.
great video again. can you do this with a level 80 and you cancel the proffesions they got now? keep up good work love the videos
Which Profession suits the best for this? I have the feeling that mostly weapons are requested. Many cloth and leather items arent BIS so they arent needed. Am i wrong?
Excellent video.
Will say, if you're like me, not stellar luck in games, the herb/mining part will be a multiple day endavor. 🤣
Ever considered doing a guide on TSM? Been watching a few, trying to get into TSM. But the ones I've found haven't really been that good and most of them are years old.
My god, I didn't know you had to do the gathering weekly to get the catch-up knowledge. No wonder my gathering alt seemed so far behind on knowledge, built it last week with the null stone weekly & refused to spend that much, plus I didn't remember to hand in till later in the week.
To be fair, why pay for the null stones? Just wait until the following week and do them as catch-up ..
Would it be worth it to do this even if i have 2 of the professions i want on that char at lvl 100 and have 1 blue tool in each with 70-80 kp?
Still kinda feels worth it just to get all tools, all books and so on. Feeling extremely starved for AA all the time on all my alts.
Edit; What happens to my tools for the professions that i unlearn ? I could store them in my bags no problem i guess?
Also, what happens to the KP i had before? I guess its gone but crafting the items again would give 1 kp each, right?
Dropping a profession loses you recipes you know and your profession skill level. Knowledge stays the same and gear will get dumped into your backpacks.
Sucks having a character will 2 professions this expansion 😞
Do you have any recommendations on what profession to choose, if I don't want to BIS craft, but want to mass craft a lot of thing?
Hey, maybe I'm missing something, but I'm at 175 Acuity right now and with 50/50 of Roots/Sliver left. Am I missing something, as adding it all up doesn't really add up to the ~1000 you had in the video
Nevermind, was the "Crafting to Order" quest that gives 350. All adds up now
Awesome!
My current gold making crafter is alchemy / enchanting. I am behind on my tools due to Acuity. I can see the first part being beneficial, but since my points are spent, I don’t suppose I can benefit from enchanting?
Is there a workaround to this? Any other prof to substitute?
You should do enchanting patron orders before all the first time crafts as those orders will be first time crafts. Doing it the other way requires more crafts.
Also, skinning is easier imo than herb or mining as you can skin in pretty much one spot with a little trick (I can share that trick if you like).
yes please, share it :D
You are 100% right about the enchanting patreon orders.
The skinning thing can be better. I'm on a low population server, so can't easily just go to bee area and skin other people's kills, and have terrible gear so can't get into farming groups. I imagine for a lot of players it could be better but defiantly not for me.
@@Maehdoni check my most recent upload for the spot, it's super easy, no bees required
Hell of a great vid
Thank you.
Yo kaychak, been watching some time now, still not sure what i wanna do on my main or my alt. New to AH and this stuff, i have mining and blacksmithing, pretty sure i botched the blacksmithing tree nodes. Mining i put so i can mine while still mounted and then going for bismuth. I saw the m+ profession video and im wondering if you think i should do this catch up on my main and switch to alchemy maybe? Cause i dont get anything from blacksmithing gold wise and alchemy seems like it can still get me some gold on the side. And focus on enchanting on my main. would love some tips. Everything is so expensive on ah, or i might just go herb and mining and just farm mats and sell on AH. Any thoughts?
On any "main" character I would do alchemy purely because it can save you huge amounts of gold over the expansion if your going to be using flasks regularly, see this video if you haven't already th-cam.com/video/SHUTZg856DI/w-d-xo.html
Mining and herbing is solid too but you could also just set that up on an alt and use that whenever you want to farm. If your not going to dedicated time to just farming with mining and herbing and just mean picking up herbs as you fly around doing other stuff then it's probably not worth it.
Weren't you saying just about a week ago that if we didn't have everything perfectly set up by then, we were never going to catch up and make a profit? Has this shuffle you're describing changed the game that much?
This allows people to pretty much catch-up instantly, or at least as far as crafting costs is concerned anyway.
I'm sure I mention it in the video that I still think that the majority of players are better off doing concentration builds over regular "active" crafting. That being said, if someone is dedicated over the course of the expansion then they can make a decent amount of gold, but ya, most will be better off with the easy concentration builds.
My last video was helping viewers craft for a profit. I may not think it's the best decision for viewers to be pushing to be crafters with how the markets are but that's doesn't mean I won't stop helping them trying to make gold from it.
@@kaychak807 fair enough! didn't mean to imply you were scamming people or anything, just confused.
Thanks, I hate it.
Jokes aside, great video!
Hey Kaychak, worthit currently says farming cloth/inscription is the best GP per hour. Please can you do a build for farming mats with those professions? Thank you very much
I havnt done any of that sort of farming this expansion so I wont do a video about it, as I’ll only talk about what I have good expertise in. I don’t want to just pretend I know what I’m talking about.
Anyone know how to increase the drop rate for Null Sliver for mining? Im getting one maybe every 20ish ores its taking a LONG time
It looked like you were disenchanting hundreds of thousands of gold worth of blues and greens, is there a substantial barrier of entry that you need to already have enough gold to fund that?
Nah it's super cheap, I just had loads of random blues to get rid off, you should use cheap stuff, I should have made this clearer in the video. The pinned comment is good advice, Darkmoon decks cost basically nothing.
Also DarkMoon fair gives points for easy quest
It does but no AA unfortunately
So this is only available to fresh professions right? I can’t do this on my main enchanter to get the 72 KP
I’ve got everything from the weekly stuff, the WA doesn’t show anything available to me now after all the weekly KP
This is mostly for the AA, but ya if no dust is showing on your enchanter then your all caught up.
The weakaura was updated rather recently to show the catch-up, if you've been using it a while check that yours is up to date. It's possible that you missed something and have catch-up available@@jayryan1956
Tried doing this for around 30 minutes after completing the weekly quest...still wasn't getting them to drop. Turns out if darkmoon faire is up, that weekly needs to be completed as well.
I have not found this to be the case. Got the catch-up drops without doing the Darkmoon quests.
are the catch up items for mining and herb completely random? Ive been doing nothing but mining an herb for days now and still need 50 each of the Roots and Slivers
They are RNG but it shouldn't be taking you days. I think I got to level 75 or 76 with capped rested experience before I was completely done.
@@kaychak807 is there something I am doing wrong maybe? I had just hit 100 in mining and herb very recently, the only items remaining that show on my weakaura are Unique's and then the Roots/Slivers. Do you prefer to farm only the shiny nodes, or do you gather everything no matter what, do my tools matter? I am rocking base +4 tools. I am kinda lost as to why this is taking to long for me. I get a root/sliver maybe every 10 nodes. Any bit of extra info would be greatly appreciated
I gather everything, more nodes is more chance for the items
can you give us an ETA on how long the herb/mining catchup took you? it felt like it took me at least an hour for like 5 of each
It's hard to say exactly as I was doing a lot of this whilst doing other stuff on multiple accounts more of the time so not really concentrating on it. It is time consuming though, I think I got to level 75-76 in total.
@@kaychak807 I started mining and herbing on my character at 71 and at 78 I still need 40+ of each Mining and Herb drop. I used a Truesight Phial and everything and I'm still struggling to get the drops. Is there something I'm missing here?
Something really wrong, your higher level than me and I have done everything so also got all the experience from crafting as well. Are they dropping for you at all? Very odd. It's time consuming for sure, but you should have been done ages ago.
@@kaychak807 They were definitely dropping but at an incredibly slow pace, so I eventually gave up. Maybe it was hotfixed or something.
@@kaychak807 yeah it felt time consuming so I did the weeklies/patron shuffle and got enough for what I wanted, but still felt slow. 6 levels from pure mining/herb sounds very tedious :(
Is this possible to do on one profession slot ( I don't want reset main prof ) like herb > mining > skin > enchanting?
You could but it would just take longer, it's takes quite some time as it is already ..
Is there a faster way to get the roots. been farming herbs for 40min, only got 1 :S
nope, it's ok not getting 'em for a long time.
How about lvling the profession i have to unlearn if i have 2 main professions ?
If you have two main professions then your pretty much screwed with the stupid system we have in War Within.
I don’t have a catch up thing at all on any characters (even new 70s)
seeing how the economy dropped since last week, I don't really know how to make profit, even with the catch-up mechanics... it looks like nothing is worth anything anymore
For the stuff that I sell I'm finding profit margins are the same as what they were this time last week (although Thursday to Saturday sucked). Selling prices are much lower but so are materials.
what file for camo nodes?
Can you elaborate? Sorry
Phial of Truesight
Thank you for saving me a Google search 😃
noob comment.... How do I move the weakaura?
The anchor shows up after you type /wa and the weakaura window is open
I have no idea what you are talking about. The video is about "catching up", but if you are someone in that situation like myself, you act as if we already know what "artisans acuity" is from the start. If I knew that I wouldn't be here watching a video about catching up. You never explain "artisans acuity" where it came comes from, what it does, ETC. What good is a catch up video that doesn't explain what subject of the video is?
I'm sorry you didnt get what you want from the video but this isn't a complete basic War Within profession guide, this is a more advanced guide. You need to understand the basic profession system before you worry about catching up in a very competitive environment.
I can't cover the basics of War Within professions in every video as it would massively bloat video run times, at this point in the expansion I have covered it many times in videos and the majority of viewers know what I'm talking about.
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