They should refer to how Portugal treated the people of Macau. BNO is a joke, they never intended hongkongers to be British. Portuguese Macanese have full Portuguese citizenship, unlike British hongkongers.
I am Portuguese, and no, we don't give citizenship like candies. We give them to people who were born in former possessions before the time of handover, because that's what's right. Macau, Angola, Mozambique, etc, they weren't just protectorates, they were part of Portugal, and so everyone deserves equal rights. There are no tier 1 or tier 2 citizens.
@the MadHater unfortunately during the time the Philippines were colonized by Spain, Portugal and Spain were in a personal union, so we had the same King. We lost a ton of rights during those years, and it took us a full war to get our independence back (it is known as the restoration war).
@@andia968 because of "brain drain", it is needed to protect OSTs from depopulation, and impoverishment, only the middle class could afford the move to the UK, leaving the poor, of whom there are many, unable to put pressure on china.
BNO has many of it's own advantages. Although I understand 90% of the comment section here are hating HK people for caring about BNO and a sign of disloyalty.
@@draculwarmz96 advantages as to only travel without having the hassle of applying a Visa, people laughing at the BNO isn't about their disloyalty, its about they are demanding a proper passport because they know BNO isn't worth anything as they using the who scenario to pretend they wanted to leave HK, why not just leave AND NEVER COME BACK and ask asylum and tell the imaginative horror story and how much they love EU limited Democracy, no one is stopping them to leave as they freedom are taken away
Leon They should let the 2 millions claimed to be pro- democracy waving the british and american flags all migrate to UK or US. Wonder do they consider them as warriors or 2nd grade immigrants?
@@OAS15 Too bad. Um...may be they can apply as asylum seekers like those South Asia refugees or those trying to cross the border from Mexico to america?
Portugal gives full portuguese citizenship and passport to macaneses. That's why no one heard about Macau, almost all of them already got the portuguese citizenship, and it's not because their heart is with Portugal, just being a citizen of EU is so convenient.
@@vincent5873 Not true. People who were Macauans before a day in 1981 got full EU citizenship and so will their children if both parents are EU citizens from Macau. It is not possible to get EU citizenship by marrying a Macauan EU citizen.
Macau was not part of China and Macau was never intended to be given to China. Portugal gave Macau to China on free will it was Portuguese territory for over 5 centuries but somehow Beijing found a way to corrupt the Portuguese government who gave Macau to China.
UK should take the HKers who want to move to UK. This is a win-win situation for China and HKers. If UK also likes it, perfect, because then it's a 3 way win situation.
what you think Brexit was all about? They don't want immigrants coming to britian. Last thing the citizens of UK wants is more non-white people coming to the country lol.
@@douglei4413 no overseas Chinese community in ASEAN wanna accept them. Singapore sees them (black shirt violent rioters) as spoiled kids that will get canning in Singapore jails, in Malaysia, 1 HK protestors condemning the whole Chinese community because they're overwhelmingly sympathetic to the China's Central Government and HKSAR government. As a Hokkien who don't speak Cantonese fluently, I'm shocked when they're channeling their anger to someone who speak Mandarin.
Let these young and energetic young HKers migrate aboard. They are young and could channel their energy to their workforce. It will be a win win for the countries and these Hkers
As mainlander, I think Hongkongers with BN(0) passports and their Children should be given a one-time choice to be British Citizen or Chinese Citizen. If their hearts and souls is not with China, just let them leave. They should leave China for Britain when UK allows them, then everyone will be better off.
It's not the HKSAR that's not letting them leave. They can leave anytime another country accepts them. Now, from the British perspective, why would they give them full British citizenship? Why would they import a bunch of lowly educated, un-wealthy, people with questionable ethics, some with pending rioting and assault charges? To bring crime to the UK and to claim their benefits? The people with the skills or the wealth can easily immigrate to the UK. In the 97' Handover, a lot of wealthy or highly skilled hong kongers were offered full British citizenship. The rest were given the passport for dogs, aka BNO.
Thadius Sean exactly. These rioters see themselves as british and believe the uk cares about them. But the uk only pretends to care but doesnt actually want them.
You are either a British National or you aren't. Congratulations UK! With the BNO passport, you have created an Orwellian world. "All animals are equal but some are more equal than others" George Orwell Animal farm
uk cant because china isn't letting them - look what the ambassador was saying in the interview.. the uk cant risk offending china in a big way like that..
I support the conversion from BNO passport to a full UK passport provided the passport holders give up their Chinese（Hong Kong) citizenship (i.e. they have to leave Hong Kong).
They did Brexit to avoid excess migration from the continental Europe. Since HKers r already granted second-class citizens in the first place, the British can only be more unwilling to take them in.
No, I live in UK and I talked to many people about the issue. They would be more than happy to grant Hong Konger British citizenship. The government don't support that, the people do. The government will probably consider granting Hong Konger citizenship with Brexit reducing migrants. People saying that are Chinese with inferiority complex, overthinking and imagining things.
EmpireTV(Dragon) when? Like forever? Next 10-20yrs? Don’t be naive, if British really keen of offering citizenship, they should done it before the handover, even then, HKers are not given full citizenship. Wake up mate
How was there 'no freedom'? Can you substantiate that comment? There was civil liberties under the British. There is many different aspects to freedom.
Those ex Malaysians who gave up their citizenship and appealed for british overseas citizenship and then got revoked and became stateless should watch this
i dont see points here... if thy choose to migrate and give up MYSian status, thats their choice. I respect their own decision, and this BNO is totally different thing with citizenship.
Not exactly sure what the original comment means but my grandad fought for Malaysia in the navy and then got a British overseas passport and came England Everything for us was fine once they settled they applied to be actual citizens
@@AhLum90 No one is bothered by their choice. But this issue has posed headache to both sides. As they're fooled by solicitors that asked them to do so, these ppl aren't aware that M'sian law never allows dual citizenship and one must give up his M'sian nationality once they are granted others. Now these ppl are trapped in limbo, coz Msia refuses to take them back and UK classifies them as stateless.
@@beanhole123 your grandad's case was totally different. Back then Malaysia was under Britain and your grandad had served for them. I am pointing to those who made an impulsive decision for the sake of money and taking something for granted, those who accused Msia for never being fair to them. For them being British nationals matters a lot, more fortunate than being Msian.
@@AhLum90 They chose to migrate but Britain didn't accept them and gave them citizenship. You're not supposed to give you your Malaysian status or current citizenship until you get the British Citizenship. You are not supposed to be stateless. And unlike Malaysia, Britain allows dual citizenship, so you would not have to give up Malaysian Citizenship.
Just like the Gurkhas we should be ensuring these individuals are given full British citizenship should they request and require it. We have to help them to avoid being absorbed into such a vile system as operates in china
So BN(O) passport doesn’t allow the HongKong holders to have suffrage rights, instead it only allows one more right as freely traveling in UK and have a homosexual marriage there.😂😂😂😂
how things have changes since this video was posted more than 3 years ago. Now the HKSAR government are worried that all those emigrate from the territory will bring along with them their life long savings and retirement fund, which is going to have a crippling effect on the economy. The rejection of withdrawal of MPF from Hong Kong is an absolute fraud, those are these people's hard earned money.
2:24 so BN(O) holders have no automatic "right of abode" to live- or work in the U.K, but do they have automatic to live or work in others British overseas Territories like Falkland Islands ?
I'm British and I'm all up for giving them full citizenship, problem with that is ofcourse everyone would leave hong kong , our border is wayyyyyyy stricter now
uk cant because china isn't letting them - look what the ambassador was saying in the interview.. the uk cant risk offending china in a big way like that..
@@Zerpentsa6598 trust me, it's the ones with money and employed people that get to move to UK. Not to mention, unemployment rate of HK ppl in UK is rock bottom.
I think Beijing government should sponsor those anti-Beijing HKer to leave HK, with a promise that they wont go back to HK in the next Ten years. It's a win-win for both.
Dear Hong Kongers, please accept the offer from the BN (O). It would be a strong sign to China if thousands or millions left the city. A sign against the suppression of freedoms and human rights!
Roman 213 okay mate please take those peaceful protestors to your country. Since they favour democracy so much that they will achieve it at all cost (even set someone alight), I’m sure it’ll contribute a big deal to your country. :) I really think you need them.
Yer because standing up for your rights is a bad thing to do, scumbag communism needs more sheep. U wouldnt understand democracy because u have never had it
They should go. A friend moved to Toronto in 97 and had to move back because he couldn't find work in his field. He paid 4x more for a flat that is same size and in same area after 5yrs.
The problem must be your friend. Someone who can speak both English and Chinese and also citizenship/work visa have more business and career opportunities than a native English.
@@tad555 Yes, all superpowers are bullies. On the case of Tibet - the Tibetans were internally fighting among themselves eventhough it was a theocracy of Buddhist priest-ruler/king. A group of losing Tibetans seeked external help from Mongols - Manchus (both closely allied militarily with each other) that was ruling over China from the 17th to early 20th century as the Qing Dynasty of China. Thus Tibet became an unwitting protectorate of the Manchu Inner Asian Empire and thereafter the Chinese Communist Party-State. The British Empire too had at one point invaded Tibet from British India. And yes the American 'Empire' too had actively supported/financed/trained (within USA) Tibetan freedom fighters/guerrillas to intrude from Mustang, Nepal into Tibet (under China's control). But the Tibetans were betrayed by USA when Nixon suddenly warmed up to Mao. Superpowers/global hegemons have no principles but only self power interests.
At 0:45, British Hongkongers are said to have been eligible for British Overseas Territories Citizenship. It is not correct....Hongkongers were British Dependent Territories citizenship (BDTC).
"not recognising the progress Hong Kong has made as part of China since its colonial days"? What progress? More poverty? Sky rocketing house prices? Housing crisis?
The "sky rocketing house prices" and " housing crisis" are due to HK SAR's own government of native Hong Kongers in collusion with Hong Konger real estate land developers in hoarding up huge land bank to jack up prices. This mode of pro-big business HK SAR govt is a continuation of that of the British Hong Kong colonial govt.
well, my brother was holding BNO and he applied for british n he got it,, all u need to spend money and filful requirements,,, one time they will reject for sure but reapply again solater they will consider, n give u,,, but we r not Chinese citizen,, we belong to Pakistan but hong kong born,,, i wish hk ppl who r holding BNO get British,,, mmm even i have BNO but i have not applied for British passport yet,,, before things go worse pls apply dont wait for UK GOv to approve
Why people try to stop them from being what they want, why even convince them not to. Just let them go as far as possible from Hong Kong. Hong Kong belongs to people who love this city. Therefore let’s pray that Britain government grant them full passports so the Hong Kong will be quiet again
The one country, two systems model is already dead. Beijing has already encroached on the Sino-British joint declaration so if Beijing isn't honouring it, why should London?
The one country two system has not dead. The deal was signed and the universal suffrage for HK is belong to how China treat. If British believe HK has no right, then they should come with a agreement before the handover. HK protester is not a result of non freedom but of foreign influence.
U forgot to mention those who were Grant full British Citizen by the colonial government.My dad was one among the 220000 people who got British passport (GBR) before handover without any complicated immigration procedure
@@MoonlightWalnut I'd LOVE to see their dream come true as someone from a former British colony but the UK government won't give them the right to citizenship unless they stay in the UK for 6 continuous years. They deserved an automatic right to be a citizen, without having to leave their home country..
@@waifung1901 No, so they can live in a country not ruled by a rebel communist dictatorship that kills thousands of it's own citizens each year. To be able to study like they want to and to have rule of law and freedom from corrupt commies. By the way the "you guys" that you refer to are a VERY small group that do that type of thing and it is tiny amount compared to what the so called HK police have been doing and out of that tiny amount you will find a lot of that was in self defense against the HK stormtroopers . The sooner the Chinese get rid of the rebel government that controls their country the better . th-cam.com/channels/WGeZMKEf_aZSD4LZ611mcg.htmlvideos
As a HKer, i don't understand why China doesn't allow Britain to take BNO holders and is calling Britain to mind its own business. I have seen the comments here and people from China is extremely supportive of this. So what exactly is wrong? It will honestly be win-win.
Chris Patten should help BNO holders get asylum in UK. As last Gov of HK, that's the least he could do. He's former Chairman of the Conservative Party and also sits in the House of Lords. Surely can do something.
Potentially up to 3 million Hong Kongers may legally be making their way to the UK in the not too distant future according to the latest BOJO pronouncements. Stay tuned....
they did bring democracy though... I wonder how many hongkongers would prefer to go back to being a British overseas territory where they at least had freedom of speech and democracy.. rather than become part of a dictatorship.
The house of lord in Great Britain are currently debating on whether to grant Hong Kongers (doesn’t say if it’s just people before 97 or everyone) full British passports
It's an interesting situation, because if they do leave then Mainland China will have free real estate to fill with already indoctrinated Chinese making HK just another part of the PRC just like what happened to Macau. However, they should also have the freedom to leave HK if they feel like it irrelevant of the current and future situation there.
The advantage of BNO passport is that it can be renew through internet and post. PRC may stop HKSAR passport renewal. If everyone in PRC can get their passport easily, 30+ dead bodies will not be found in UK.
China Hong Kong people cannot hold BNO passport. Why? The British are no more controlling China Hong Kong. How can a citizen hold two travelling passport. Of which it can be converted into a British citizenship. What an insult to China. Just get rid of it.
I think the solution is simple. Let those who're loyal to the House of Windsor relinquish their PRC nationality and HK right of abode completely and give them full British citizenship. You can't take HK dollar, but not HK people.
Except they cant lol. The BNO passport issued to them basically makes them second class citizens. They are kind of british citizens but not ”real” british citizens since holders of BNO passports need visas to move to the uk. The BNO passport is uk’s way of saying ”we care about you and want to respect you as british citizens but please do not come to the uk”
@@bigboss337 but they will always be treated a 2nd class citizen regardless cause their skin is not white lol. Might as well go there over stay their visa if they don't want to be Chinese that much.
We understand that it is impracticable to obtain the right of abode in the UK. The reason why I m still holding this passport simply because a sense of pride - for being a British.
The information in this video is not really accurate. BNO holders can actually travel to 137 countries without visa and 42 countries with arrival visa, and 6 countries with e-Visa; while HKSAR passport holders can travel 133 countries without visa, 35 with arrival visa and 2 countries with e-Visa. The reason why Hongkongers tend to use HKSAR passport rather than BNO is the fact that the fee for application for and renewal of HKSAR is much cheaper than the fee for renewal of BNO.
From what I am seeing. Most of the people that hold these passports and where born before 1997, are the ones protesting for their freedom. The ones that have come after the handover and more recently are the ones against the protesters. Sooo, who has more right to HK? The new people or the people that have been there longer? Hmmm
They should refer to how Portugal treated the people of Macau. BNO is a joke, they never intended hongkongers to be British. Portuguese Macanese have full Portuguese citizenship, unlike British hongkongers.
Macau was never meant to be a colony and yes, Portugal gives citizenship like candies.
I am Portuguese, and no, we don't give citizenship like candies. We give them to people who were born in former possessions before the time of handover, because that's what's right. Macau, Angola, Mozambique, etc, they weren't just protectorates, they were part of Portugal, and so everyone deserves equal rights. There are no tier 1 or tier 2 citizens.
@the MadHater And you think the Portuguese were any better? They've had their own exploitations
@the MadHater unfortunately during the time the Philippines were colonized by Spain, Portugal and Spain were in a personal union, so we had the same King. We lost a ton of rights during those years, and it took us a full war to get our independence back (it is known as the restoration war).
@@paulozhan under Felipe 2, right?
Long story short, BNO = Second Class Citizen. as simple as that.
Too true
Incorrect. They BNO holders are not citizens of the UK as they have no right of abode in the country.
grateful cai Incorrect it is thrid class, since asylum seekers in UK live by getting government welfare and housing and are allowed to work
@@bluemarlin2u why do uk treat them like that?they are loyal to uk
@@andia968 because of "brain drain", it is needed to protect OSTs from depopulation, and impoverishment, only the middle class could afford the move to the UK, leaving the poor, of whom there are many, unable to put pressure on china.
Pro-government, and pro-beijing should support the idea of BNO becoming a UK citizen. You wanted them to leave, they get to migrate. Win-win
UK doesn't support that, which is the major reason for brexit
actually we totally support that
If UK accepts these BNOs, sure.
Ikr..too many ppl on china (overpopulation)..those who want to leave..just leave..but who gonna accept them!? Dun Dun Dun
The city Hong Kong was built by HKner and British. Let em have own city
long story short, BNO is valid as my expired HK Disneyland year pass
BNO has many of it's own advantages. Although I understand 90% of the comment section here are hating HK people for caring about BNO and a sign of disloyalty.
@@draculwarmz96 advantages as to only travel without having the hassle of applying a Visa, people laughing at the BNO isn't about their disloyalty, its about they are demanding a proper passport because they know BNO isn't worth anything as they using the who scenario to pretend they wanted to leave HK, why not just leave AND NEVER COME BACK and ask asylum and tell the imaginative horror story and how much they love EU limited Democracy, no one is stopping them to leave as they freedom are taken away
My yearly Disney theme park tickets are worth more than the BNO. sorry hongkies you're not welcome
@@draculwarmz96 hating HK ppl? U mean calling out the hypocrisy of those who want freedom yet want former colonisers to take care of them?
it a junk....they stlill going to deport you once the time limted are up...
Let the holders of BNO document migrate to the UK.
Leon They should let the 2 millions claimed to be pro- democracy waving the british and american flags all migrate to UK or US. Wonder do they consider them as warriors or 2nd grade immigrants?
@@53smalltrain Most weren't born before the handover, and are thus unable to acquire the BNO passport anyway.
@@OAS15 Too bad. Um...may be they can apply as asylum seekers like those South Asia refugees or those trying to cross the border from Mexico to america?
ALL BNO HOLDERS shall stay in the Greater Bay area for the rest of your lives >:)
P.S. Portuguese passport holder
That sounds great!
Portugal gives full portuguese citizenship and passport to macaneses.
That's why no one heard about Macau, almost all of them already got the portuguese citizenship, and it's not because their heart is with Portugal, just being a citizen of EU is so convenient.
No only the people born before the handover has the access to become a full Portuguese citizenship
@@vincent5873 And their children can have it too, my dad has one and so do I
I have it as well
@@vincent5873 Not true. People who were Macauans before a day in 1981 got full EU citizenship and so will their children if both parents are EU citizens from Macau. It is not possible to get EU citizenship by marrying a Macauan EU citizen.
Macau was not part of China and Macau was never intended to be given to China. Portugal gave Macau to China on free will it was Portuguese territory for over 5 centuries but somehow Beijing found a way to corrupt the Portuguese government who gave Macau to China.
UK should take the HKers who want to move to UK. This is a win-win situation for China and HKers. If UK also likes it, perfect, because then it's a 3 way win situation.
what you think Brexit was all about? They don't want immigrants coming to britian. Last thing the citizens of UK wants is more non-white people coming to the country lol.
@@holycow343 oh, too bad. I just hope those HK rioters will go to somewhere, or anywhere, giving everybody a chance of peace.
If the hk rioters go to uk, I think within a week they would want to return back to HK and beg china for forgiveness.
@@douglei4413 no overseas Chinese community in ASEAN wanna accept them. Singapore sees them (black shirt violent rioters) as spoiled kids that will get canning in Singapore jails, in Malaysia, 1 HK protestors condemning the whole Chinese community because they're overwhelmingly sympathetic to the China's Central Government and HKSAR government. As a Hokkien who don't speak Cantonese fluently, I'm shocked when they're channeling their anger to someone who speak Mandarin.
@@alantan9863 most indonesian chinese dont like the way they behave too.spoiled and childish
Let these young and energetic young HKers migrate aboard. They are young and could channel their energy to their workforce. It will be a win win for the countries and these Hkers
They'll quickly realize the grass is not greener on the other side.
Why do you think brexit happened. To stop immigrants coming in to the country. It’s not gonna happen till all the old white people at the top go.
agree. let them live in a different country then become a beggar.
more likely they can be useful for organising tian ann mens overseas to topple CCP or become ordinary rioters in their country of adoption.
Please grant all these rebels full UK citizenship, send millions of them to the UK, and don’t let them return to Hong Kong.
@Home Home Most of them are born post 1997 though. They just want that passport XD
@Home Home I know. Waving those British and US flags was a disgrace and a dishonor to their mainland Chinese ancestors.
I don't think you udnerstand. hong kong belongs to hong kongers, if they want to be british by a majority, then the isaland goes with them.
Don't worry. I built a prison camp. I mean educational center for them
Have to ask if Lee hsien long wants them or not.
As mainlander, I think Hongkongers with BN(0) passports and their Children should be given a one-time choice to be British Citizen or Chinese Citizen. If their hearts and souls is not with China, just let them leave. They should leave China for Britain when UK allows them, then everyone will be better off.
It's not the HKSAR that's not letting them leave. They can leave anytime another country accepts them. Now, from the British perspective, why would they give them full British citizenship? Why would they import a bunch of lowly educated, un-wealthy, people with questionable ethics, some with pending rioting and assault charges? To bring crime to the UK and to claim their benefits? The people with the skills or the wealth can easily immigrate to the UK. In the 97' Handover, a lot of wealthy or highly skilled hong kongers were offered full British citizenship. The rest were given the passport for dogs, aka BNO.
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Thadius Sean exactly. These rioters see themselves as british and believe the uk cares about them. But the uk only pretends to care but doesnt actually want them.
the key.......why would they give them full British citizenship?
@@_______.____._______ And somehow still less ignorant than the majority of you "free" users.
BNO = basically a UK visa but with a passport cover
I mean a passport that only lets you stay for 6mths? Even a US visa can do that!
US can take visas away from anyone. It's different.
Visas and passports are two different things mate
a US passport can do that not a visa
Qimeng zhang a US visa allows you to stay up 6 months
GENERAL KENOBI it’s a BNO passport, not a real UK passport
You are either a British National or you aren't. Congratulations UK! With the BNO passport, you have created an Orwellian world.
"All animals are equal but some are more equal than others"
George Orwell Animal farm
In Europe many people have two passports. It's not either you are or not. You can be both if that's your choice
Its a farm.
They would attain British citizenship very easily and efficiently. On the contrary, non-ethnic Chinese people can never attain Chinese citizenship.
Britain is the literally the cause of so many conflicts world wide, Britain should man up and give them real passport and rights as colonizer of Macao
F Harrison u mean portugal instead of british??
@@kimusan8245 learn from Portugal that's what i mean XD
like Portugal and Macao you mean?
There's millions of them.No thanks
uk cant because china isn't letting them - look what the ambassador was saying in the interview.. the uk cant risk offending china in a big way like that..
I support the conversion from BNO passport to a full UK passport provided the passport holders give up their Chinese（Hong Kong) citizenship (i.e. they have to leave Hong Kong).
Britain wouldn't allow it since they would have nearly 2M people flooding into their country.
They did Brexit to avoid excess migration from the continental Europe. Since HKers r already granted second-class citizens in the first place, the British can only be more unwilling to take them in.
US Visa required for BNO passport and US ESTA required for British passport (ESTA not required for UK BERMUDA passport)
UK had created the BNO to make trouble in Hong Kong, but for the Holder of BNO to migrate to UK.
Funny, Hong Kong citizenship and Chinese citizenship are different identities.
Attention to all HKers, u can read all the comments below & u will realize that you’re not welcome to be British citizen at all by pure UK citizen.
No, I live in UK and I talked to many people about the issue. They would be more than happy to grant Hong Konger British citizenship. The government don't support that, the people do. The government will probably consider granting Hong Konger citizenship with Brexit reducing migrants. People saying that are Chinese with inferiority complex, overthinking and imagining things.
@@EmpireTVDragon. Just like the brexit vote...49% will welcome them and 51% will not
EmpireTV(Dragon) when? Like forever? Next 10-20yrs? Don’t be naive, if British really keen of offering citizenship, they should done it before the handover, even then, HKers are not given full citizenship. Wake up mate
@@douglei4413 No that thing is quite bi-partisan
@@EmpireTVDragon British are known for their politeness (on the surface) during conversations. They don't express their real feelings to strangers.
Second class citizen identification. Terrific commemorative souvenirs!
Not even second class, it’s a tourist visa
@@leonh6917 Nope. BNO passport has some advantages of it's own.
I bet any China person wants a BNO. Look I understand China citizens feelings are hurt by Hong Kong people....
Dracul warmz it’s has many visa free countries, but zero benefits of staying in Uk.
still better than chinese
There was no freedom before the British handover. What freedom will Beijing restrict if there was no freedom before ?
How was there 'no freedom'? Can you substantiate that comment? There was civil liberties under the British. There is many different aspects to freedom.
Those ex Malaysians who gave up their citizenship and appealed for british overseas citizenship and then got revoked and became stateless should watch this
i dont see points here... if thy choose to migrate and give up MYSian status, thats their choice. I respect their own decision, and this BNO is totally different thing with citizenship.
Not exactly sure what the original comment means but my grandad fought for Malaysia in the navy and then got a British overseas passport and came England
Everything for us was fine once they settled they applied to be actual citizens
@@AhLum90 No one is bothered by their choice. But this issue has posed headache to both sides. As they're fooled by solicitors that asked them to do so, these ppl aren't aware that M'sian law never allows dual citizenship and one must give up his M'sian nationality once they are granted others. Now these ppl are trapped in limbo, coz Msia refuses to take them back and UK classifies them as stateless.
@@beanhole123 your grandad's case was totally different. Back then Malaysia was under Britain and your grandad had served for them. I am pointing to those who made an impulsive decision for the sake of money and taking something for granted, those who accused Msia for never being fair to them. For them being British nationals matters a lot, more fortunate than being Msian.
@@AhLum90 They chose to migrate but Britain didn't accept them and gave them citizenship.
You're not supposed to give you your Malaysian status or current citizenship until you get the British Citizenship. You are not supposed to be stateless.
And unlike Malaysia, Britain allows dual citizenship, so you would not have to give up Malaysian Citizenship.
Literally a document stipulating your status as a second-tier citizen.
Actually no citizenship is given so not even 2nd class. Stateless if China didn't give HK people citizenship.
They love to be 2nd tier class people though..😅
Just like the Gurkhas we should be ensuring these individuals are given full British citizenship should they request and require it.
We have to help them to avoid being absorbed into such a vile system as operates in china
Even if Britain is willing to take all Hong Konger who want to move to Britain, I am sure China would not object.
why they act against citizenship in this case?
Why would Britain want to expand it's population by 10% ? It's a small island and one of the most densely populated in Europe.
SerBallister I’m talking about China, not Britain
Will china release the Uighur Muslims so they can leave china?
BNO holders should get full citizenship rights as British nationals
Crazy.
@@askcleftnew You're crazy.
Keep dreaming. 😂😂😂
no never
Yes yes yes but dream on
So BN(O) passport doesn’t allow the HongKong holders to have suffrage rights, instead it only allows one more right as freely traveling in UK and have a homosexual marriage there.😂😂😂😂
how things have changes since this video was posted more than 3 years ago. Now the HKSAR government are worried that all those emigrate from the territory will bring along with them their life long savings and retirement fund, which is going to have a crippling effect on the economy. The rejection of withdrawal of MPF from Hong Kong is an absolute fraud, those are these people's hard earned money.
Tbf the full UK passport will be pretty worthless once brexit happens
That's a joke
😁😁
What is that supposed to mean? You people are making things up.
Yeah. The amount of Derelict and empty shell walking around the UK will be astounding.
If brexit happens now. It's become a bit of a joke.
2:24 so BN(O) holders have no automatic "right of abode" to live- or work in the U.K, but do they have automatic to live or work in others British overseas Territories like Falkland Islands ?
I'm British and I'm all up for giving them full citizenship, problem with that is ofcourse everyone would leave hong kong , our border is wayyyyyyy stricter now
I am all up for giving 500 USD to everyone on this planet, problem with that is of course my pocket is more than half empty😂
All my fellow brits would rather have Hong Kong immigrants than those from the Middle East
i rather no immigrants at all to be fair
I’m a dual citizen. New Zealand and Australia so my comment has no relevance to this topic
Both countries are commonwealth
Isaac Ioane Both of your passports are way better than BNO.
To all illegal protesters and violent rioters in hongkong city,
SHAME ON YOU
I am proud of them :) very proud
More Like... HOW Dare you..! !
I will smile wide when your trash heap of a country ends like the old summer palace...
One can never trust the British as usual.
LOL
uk cant because china isn't letting them - look what the ambassador was saying in the interview.. the uk cant risk offending china in a big way like that..
Tricking, Thieving, and Using Asians as usual!!!
@@roro-mm7cc Finally someone with sense.
They honoured the agreement and handed back the territories in 1997.
Even though they didn’t have to hand back Hong Kong island.
They can all come to Britain and claim council housing and benefits, that's why.
Or, join the 600,000 homeless teenagers living on the streets in London.
They Britain are taking people from EU and accepting regular refugees
Please... Hongkongers are known to be hardworkers and too proud to be on welfare. They got more money in savings than all your mamas put together.
@@anniw3704 Yes. And these are staying put in China's SAR. UK can have the bananas, the detritus.
@@Zerpentsa6598 trust me, it's the ones with money and employed people that get to move to UK. Not to mention, unemployment rate of HK ppl in UK is rock bottom.
Well, it's unfair on the part of the UK government to not help these Hong Kong citizens who are still loyal to the British.
Unfair? UK government does not owe them anything, plus what can they do? HK belongs to China now.
Lily C Precisely.
Just look at the comments section and know that we are all doomed in the future.
Just go and stay illegal in other countries if you can. By 2047 HK, no one can intervene during the process of returning.
how did you know the future? what you said is happening in 2020
I think Beijing government should sponsor those anti-Beijing HKer to leave HK, with a promise that they wont go back to HK in the next Ten years. It's a win-win for both.
Dear Hong Kongers, please accept the offer from the BN (O). It would be a strong sign to China if thousands or millions left the city. A sign against the suppression of freedoms and human rights!
No Dogs And Chinese Allowed 😔😔😔😔
That is how humiliating UK had treated all CHINESE in CHINA
That was specifically in HK, referred to the HK Chinese
That's actually a myth, and the discrimination it refers to has not been in place since the 1920s, before HK's boom as part of Britain.
@@SM-ku3uo The UK would much rather take HK Chinese over mainland Chinese everyday. Though it doesn't care about either.
BNO = Just another way to segregate HK from China
Please grant these rioters UK citizenship and take them away.
not rioters that was called a peaceful protest mate..
Roman 213 okay mate please take those peaceful protestors to your country. Since they favour democracy so much that they will achieve it at all cost (even set someone alight), I’m sure it’ll contribute a big deal to your country. :) I really think you need them.
@@Sk-ym1uv While most Brits are on HK's side, the Government isn't going to add an additional 2M people to it's country.
Yer because standing up for your rights is a bad thing to do, scumbag communism needs more sheep. U wouldnt understand democracy because u have never had it
The one country two systems is ALRWADY in jeopardy! Britain should give right of abode there, and more.
They should go. A friend moved to Toronto in 97 and had to move back because he couldn't find work in his field. He paid 4x more for a flat that is same size and in same area after 5yrs.
The problem must be your friend. Someone who can speak both English and Chinese and also citizenship/work visa have more business and career opportunities than a native English.
Wow. Im really surprised how objectiv and informativ the south china morning post is. A shame that there aren´t more chinese news like this.
4:30 a breach... They have breached theirs.
We (the UK) have just announced that we will give citizenship to BNO passport holders and the eligible.
Wait, Hong Kong is supposed to be in the same system as China in 2047? I thought it was just recently.
BNO... British NO
Frack off
Witty
what a boomer joke LOL.
I mean British invaded Hong Kong when China didn’t want anything to do with brits
And China invaded Tibet when Tibet wanted nothing to do with China. All superpowers are bullies end of story
@@tad555 Yes, all superpowers are bullies. On the case of Tibet - the Tibetans were internally fighting among themselves eventhough it was a theocracy of Buddhist priest-ruler/king. A group of losing Tibetans seeked external help from Mongols - Manchus (both closely allied militarily with each other) that was ruling over China from the 17th to early 20th century as the Qing Dynasty of China. Thus Tibet became an unwitting protectorate of the Manchu Inner Asian Empire and thereafter the Chinese Communist Party-State. The British Empire too had at one point invaded Tibet from British India. And yes the American 'Empire' too had actively supported/financed/trained (within USA) Tibetan freedom fighters/guerrillas to intrude from Mustang, Nepal into Tibet (under China's control). But the Tibetans were betrayed by USA when Nixon suddenly warmed up to Mao. Superpowers/global hegemons have no principles but only self power interests.
At 0:45, British Hongkongers are said to have been eligible for British Overseas Territories Citizenship. It is not correct....Hongkongers were British Dependent Territories citizenship (BDTC).
"not recognising the progress Hong Kong has made as part of China since its colonial days"? What progress? More poverty? Sky rocketing house prices? Housing crisis?
The "sky rocketing house prices" and " housing crisis" are due to HK SAR's own government of native Hong Kongers in collusion with Hong Konger real estate land developers in hoarding up huge land bank to jack up prices. This mode of pro-big business HK SAR govt is a continuation of that of the British Hong Kong colonial govt.
The new Papers, Please looks lit
The HKSAR passport is literally more powerful than most of BNO passports lol 💀
Go to UK for democracy and freedom. No need for protest.
well, my brother was holding BNO and he applied for british n he got it,, all u need to spend money and filful requirements,,, one time they will reject for sure but reapply again solater they will consider, n give u,,, but we r not Chinese citizen,, we belong to Pakistan but hong kong born,,, i wish hk ppl who r holding BNO get British,,, mmm even i have BNO but i have not applied for British passport yet,,, before things go worse pls apply dont wait for UK GOv to approve
THE UK IS VASTLY OVER POPULATED.......WHERE WILL THEY ALL LIVE ......"AND WORK' ?
Long live free Hong Kong. 🇭🇰
HK has never been free. Before 1997 HK was ruled by London!
Emmanuel it should be more like free you mind man, Young people in HK should educate themselves more, sign
BNO holder want to go to UK，let them go my great British friends🤣
Why people try to stop them from being what they want, why even convince them not to. Just let them go as far as possible from Hong Kong. Hong Kong belongs to people who love this city. Therefore let’s pray that Britain government grant them full passports so the Hong Kong will be quiet again
The one country, two systems model is already dead. Beijing has already encroached on the Sino-British joint declaration so if Beijing isn't honouring it, why should London?
The one country two system has not dead. The deal was signed and the universal suffrage for HK is belong to how China treat. If British believe HK has no right, then they should come with a agreement before the handover. HK protester is not a result of non freedom but of foreign influence.
Britain is a big war criminal btw
@@vincent5873 Isn't no freedom the same as foreign influence? I mean, China didn't really even know democracy until well after a millennium.
Marauder Noir how is HK has no freedom?
@@vincent5873 Uh, did you even read my comment? I was saying that freedom is a foreign influence to China anyway.
U forgot to mention those who were Grant full British Citizen by the colonial government.My dad was one among the 220000 people who got British passport (GBR) before handover without any complicated immigration procedure
Full UK citizenship for BNO citizens... LOL! Keep dreaming!
rivenade Are you sure you’re not the one dreaming? Cause their dream just came true :3
@@MoonlightWalnut I'd LOVE to see their dream come true as someone from a former British colony but the UK government won't give them the right to citizenship unless they stay in the UK for 6 continuous years. They deserved an automatic right to be a citizen, without having to leave their home country..
Send those 26,000 traitors to burden the UK instead !
Exactly 26,000?
Hongkongers should learn HISTORY and accept their CHINESE ETHNICS
The commonwealth countries and Taiwan should accept bnos to immigrate. Canada, Australia, New Zealand, UK and Taiwan.
BNO holders shold get right of abode in other commonwealth countries such as India,Pakistan and Bangladesh if something actually happens.
Impossible. Those three countries you named have their own immigration laws and have nothing to do with the BN(O).
The UK let millions in from Muslim countries they should change the immigration priorities to bring the HK people in !
FREE HONG KONG why? So you guys can riot and throw gasoline bombs at the London Underground if you don’t get your way?
@@waifung1901 No, so they can live in a country not ruled by a rebel communist dictatorship that kills thousands of it's own citizens each year.
To be able to study like they want to and to have rule of law and freedom from corrupt commies.
By the way the "you guys" that you refer to are a VERY small group that do that type of thing and it is tiny amount compared to what the so called HK police have been doing and out of that tiny amount you will find a lot of that was in self defense against the HK stormtroopers .
The sooner the Chinese get rid of the rebel government that controls their country the better .
th-cam.com/channels/WGeZMKEf_aZSD4LZ611mcg.htmlvideos
Nice SCMP reuploaded again with a different title because you didn't like the comments on the original one
Where has the Freedom of speech gone???
As a HKer, i don't understand why China doesn't allow Britain to take BNO holders and is calling Britain to mind its own business. I have seen the comments here and people from China is extremely supportive of this. So what exactly is wrong? It will honestly be win-win.
Chris Patten should help BNO holders get asylum in UK. As last Gov of HK, that's the least he could do. He's former Chairman of the Conservative Party and also sits in the House of Lords. Surely can do something.
Asylum costs money.
@@angeloc7369 I get it. Talk by Chris Pattern is cheap. Asylum costs money.
Potentially up to 3 million Hong Kongers may legally be making their way to the UK in the not too distant future according to the latest BOJO pronouncements. Stay tuned....
Yes. Second class! Hahaha! Yet hongkongers still look up at the British as their masters.
Still better than become control by CCP
Now they look to US
US and UK? Hehehe. They only exploit the countries they occupied.
they did bring democracy though... I wonder how many hongkongers would prefer to go back to being a British overseas territory where they at least had freedom of speech and democracy.. rather than become part of a dictatorship.
They can't live or work in UK? So they are just basically a taxpayer to increase revenue?
You watch they can now
Thanks for explaining that British National (Overseas) are not British Nationals.
The house of lord in Great Britain are currently debating on whether to grant Hong Kongers (doesn’t say if it’s just people before 97 or everyone) full British passports
Hk: we are British, take us plz
Uk: ahah they got banter
Lu your s is the best joke ha ha ha
It's an interesting situation, because if they do leave then Mainland China will have free real estate to fill with already indoctrinated Chinese making HK just another part of the PRC just like what happened to Macau. However, they should also have the freedom to leave HK if they feel like it irrelevant of the current and future situation there.
My dad had a British nationalist passport lived in the uk then had me and I now have a full passport and a HK citizenship card with 3 stars
Chris Wong will I get to keep that passport cause it’s better than the mainland one
I thought BNO meant big night out?
British draw the cookies for hong konger, n Hong konger put some sesame seed on it .
Then China takes the cookies and eats them with tea.
The advantage of BNO passport is that it can be renew through internet and post. PRC may stop HKSAR passport renewal. If everyone in PRC can get their passport easily, 30+ dead bodies will not be found in UK.
they r vietnumese
Yes please go. Please remove these rioters and let peace returns to HK. Let them have a taste of being a second class citizen in UK
many prefer tobe a second class rather of theirs civilian rights has been threaten by communist power
@@gatolocoverga152 Then go, let the rioters go.... So that your point can be PROVEN. I'm saying this because to date, it isn't happening.
Sadly most activist are young people and won't be able to go to UK for more than 12 months because most of them probably have HK passport not BNO
Hong Kong.. the unwanted stepchild lol
China Hong Kong people cannot hold BNO passport. Why? The British are no more controlling China Hong Kong. How can a citizen hold two travelling passport. Of which it can be converted into a British citizenship. What an insult to China. Just get rid of it.
I think the solution is simple. Let those who're loyal to the House of Windsor relinquish their PRC nationality and HK right of abode completely and give them full British citizenship. You can't take HK dollar, but not HK people.
Some got full British passports
Why are they still in Hongkong?
Move to UK. Your master.
Except they cant lol. The BNO passport issued to them basically makes them second class citizens. They are kind of british citizens but not ”real” british citizens since holders of BNO passports need visas to move to the uk. The BNO passport is uk’s way of saying ”we care about you and want to respect you as british citizens but please do not come to the uk”
UK is not their master.. what they want is freedom in HK. Theyd rather fight for HK than be 2nd class citizen.
@@askcleftnew They soon will become third class citizen, that is their born right.
@@刻时-u4v how?
@@bigboss337 but they will always be treated a 2nd class citizen regardless cause their skin is not white lol. Might as well go there over stay their visa if they don't want to be Chinese that much.
Will Britain really want those people who have been desperately begging for a full British citizen for 50 years in 2047?
When the army roll in Hong Kong......gotta get that British passport eh?
PLA has been staying in HK for more than 2 decades. What's the use of that passport?
@@ozsharpener hrmmmm idk.
Macau people born before December 20, 1999 are Portuguese citizens, so why can't Hong Kong people born before July 1, 1997 be British citizens?
We understand that it is impracticable to obtain the right of abode in the UK. The reason why I m still holding this passport simply because a sense of pride - for being a British.
Rather than the term handover, i prefer to call it reclaim
When the situation has gotten so bad that your former coloniser looks like an angel now
Say a lie 1000 times and it becomes truth. Tell me what civil liberties stopped existing post handover. I want specifics.
@@fattyacid1901 Aren't 3/4 of Hong Kong politicians elected by mainland China and big companies? That's barely democracy.
Well we can't apply the same characterisations of colonialism everywhere. HK boomed as a British colony.
The information in this video is not really accurate. BNO holders can actually travel to 137 countries without visa and 42 countries with arrival visa, and 6 countries with e-Visa; while HKSAR passport holders can travel 133 countries without visa, 35 with arrival visa and 2 countries with e-Visa. The reason why Hongkongers tend to use HKSAR passport rather than BNO is the fact that the fee for application for and renewal of HKSAR is much cheaper than the fee for renewal of BNO.
I was born in 1996 and I also have BN(O) and Hong Kong passport.
Insurance policy. My friends have BNO, Malaysian & Singaporean PR, New Zealand PR.
Boohoo.. only if you did not ask to free yourselves from the British rule.
Also, those BNOs are completely useless.
How about Canadian or Australian citizenship
I sympathise with the people of Hong-Kong
I won't waste any sympathy on people who want to disown their "parent"; being a quitter is nothing to be proud of.
Dont waste your sympathy on these disloyal people. They dont know when they are blessed. They have destroy their own city they lived in .
@Chan 160138you Glbl
It is pretty sad how Britain cannot accept the fact that they are not longer an empire.
In other words, its useless LOLOL
From what I am seeing. Most of the people that hold these passports and where born before 1997, are the ones protesting for their freedom. The ones that have come after the handover and more recently are the ones against the protesters. Sooo, who has more right to HK? The new people or the people that have been there longer? Hmmm