Michigan is Where a QUARTERBACKS Career GOES TO DIE (Are They a Bust Factory?)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.พ. 2021
- Michigan has always been a hot destination for QB talent, but besides Tom Brady, they have not have a lot of successful guys and is it safe to say that Michigan is a QB bust factory? Today, we are going to look at all the guys who have suited up for the Wolverines in the last 20 years and see how they have done, enjoy!
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Does Michigan waste their QB Talent?
What should I do next?
Why FCS players have been drafted more recently
Yes they do
@@oddoperator3524 As a Browns fan I’m gonna have to contest you’re username😂
Ohio State qb’s in the nfl
@@jonahklein8582 We don’t waste them while they’re playing for us..
All of the talent was funneled into Tom Brady at the expense of everyone else
Buckle up then, Pitt is still dealing with the aftermath of giving all our energy to Marino
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha so true
I don't think that Brady kid has what it takes. Huge bust.
completely untrue. Tom was fighting his entire college career just to play. The year he entered the draft he was being rotated during the games with a highly rated 2 sport athlete
@@christianjackman5179 Nathan Peterman is better.
Denard Robinson is best known for being on the cover of NCAA 14 lol
Who?
The guy who never tied his shoes
ahhh the last great football game
The guy that got hit so hard by Clowney his helmet flew off.
@@Argos-xb8ek Clowney didn’t hit Denard lol
Chad Hennie has been in two straight Super Bowls so there lol
Yea holding a clipboard lol
*Henne
Good point. 😂😂
@@dupreehundo3070 and he has as many rings as Rogers, Brees and Wilson lol
@@dupreehundo3070 doesn’t matter if he’s holding a clipboard or not. He’s made millions over a decade long career as a backup
It would he interesting to see a list of top college players now in the CFL.
Facts
So many dudes that are 4 5 star recruits an they get lost in the shuffle an end up in the CFL arena, an some back home living in their parents basements...🥺
I’d watch it
I’d watch it
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Me as a Michigan fan: John O’korn does not exist,John O’Korn does not exist,John O’Korn does not exist
I will always remember him for missing an open receiver in the 4th quarter against OSU in 2017, a game we definitely couldve won.
@@isaiahvincent1008 but in the end they’ll say that’s all on Harbaugh smh
@@mattschultzfinkler I remember chase young laughing at his face
@@mattschultzfinklerfreshman chase still a god
Oh, you're young.
Do you remember a guy named Steven Threet?
8 quarterbacks going pro in 20 years seams pretty good to me. Especially when 1 is Brady and another is Henne. Go blue!
Clearly Tom Brady left a curse on Michigan where all good parts of any quarterbacks future career are siphoned out and sent to Tommy Boy
You should have added, "Except for Tom Brady" to the beginning of the title.
And Brian Griese
They tried their best to ruin Brady’s career to be fair😂
@@DumbInvestors the battle was between Drew Henson and Brady...Brady eventually became number one but not by a lot...Brady was not that much of a standout then but he sure became one and he credits his development to his time at Michigan
brady is nothing without belichick
@@seanyp150 you just may have that backwards
Besides Brady, you have Elvis Grbac. Chad Henne who's still in the NFL, Jim Harbaugh, Drew Henson, Brian Griese, Todd Collins,John Navarre, Scott Dreisbach.
Exactly, Video is just a bias hit piece made by a Michigan hater who is young enough to think that college football history doesn't exist before 2010
The reason is because Brady Hoke was woefully inept at developing talent and Jim Harbaugh was fool’s gold when it came to developing QBs
Dude what are you talking about you had Wilton States that had over 2000 yards not an old record something like 12 touchdowns two interceptions then he got hurt against Iowa and he was never the same again so that's not quarterback play all the time that's offensive lineman play because after Jake rudock he did have wooden space so what do you what are you really talking about
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Just from the title I can tell that this is spot on
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Facts on facts!
Tom brady
@@devinhoyt8396 That is one QB who to be honest wasn’t that good in college despite his NFL success
He didnt do bad in college sure there was better in the draft but there usually is, he held his own in college was a leader in one of the top conferences in college football
Wilton Speight wasn’t healthy for OSU and Florida State, he revealed he had a broken collarbone on Twitter
really?
@@ScottFisherCFB ya he played through the collarbone injury that he got from the iowa game for the ohio State game
@@ScottFisherCFB yeah look into it
Michigan would've won with a healthy Speight
@@muhdnawfal9086 no
You should do a video about why Ohio State QBs always look great in college and can't translate to the NFL
Pretty simple answer, Ohio state does not really even try to recruit traditional quarterbacks and only really goes for duel threat qbs which find nfl success far less often than traditional qbs
@@thetoptige8014 good insight. However,the NFL has shifted to being more supportive of Dual Threat QBs. The issue with OSU QBs is that they are not properly taught how to read defenses once their 1st option is covered. OSU offensive coordinators consistently scheme people open instead of allowing the QB to find the open man.💯
@@thetoptige8014 craig krenzel would have had a good career i belive if lovie smith hadnt made him play with a broken bone in his back also with a blowen shoulder he was never given a fair chance
Dub Cook it’s the schemes they run it doesn’t prepare for the speed and quick reads u need in the NFL they rely on dual threat QB to draw out they plays that really help there WR routes and stuff
@@DovakheenMusic exactly💯
Ryan Mallet's father was my coach at my Middle School and High School at the same school Ryan went to. I asked him once about why Ryan left Michigan but he never responded and he said he wouldn't talk about it. I ran a lot of laps that day! 😂
Officially it’s because they switched coaches to Rich Rodriguez, who was going to run his option offense. Mallet, being a traditional drop back guy, transferred instead of being relegated to benchwarmer.
@@sasquatchhunter86 Pretty much it. Mallet was a perfect fit for Carr's offense which is why Carr recruited him, but he did not have the speed to be an option QB. I really hated how Rich Rod was so insistent on playing option offense when we never had the players for that type of offense. We would have been so much better during that time had we played pro style till he got his players in.
@@marks2807 Wow .... I used to say the exact same thing word for word. Rich Rod's first few years at Michigan could've been decent if he would've been smart enough to use what was already there.
McCaffrey transferred to the University of Northern Colorado where his dad is the coach, not Colorado State.
Not gonna lie. Mallett is one of my favorite college qbs. Dude had and arm and threw a pretty ball. Dude killed it @ ark. Though he had a ton of talent at wr. Joe Adam's, Cobi Hamilton Greg Child, Jarius Wright. Ark was loaded at wr. One of the exciting teams to watch
Yeah but good OL rich Rod... nah I don’t wanna tailor my offense...
@@anthonybaratta6152 The AD hired Rich Rod, not the other way around. Any blame should go to the AD for buying a square peg for a round hole.
@@fredlin6303 yes absolutely… that was a train wreck waiting to happen… I was jacked up when we hired the guy cause of his success at WVU… not realizing it wouldn’t translate to real football…
That not the reason they were excited! Put it this way who blocking? Who given the QB time to throw the balls? Who leading the way for the running back? THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION ON OFFENSE!
@@ericcarter2020 fact
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Henne used to ball but he had a squad around him. I was a freshman in high school and to see them play with Braylon Edwards, Mario Manninghan, Steve Breaston, Mike Hart at TB, with Jake long flattening anybody in the way! It was fun.
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We had a qb on both superbowl teams last year
This video brings back lots and lots of pain.
John* Navarre, not Josh lol.
Known his family for years.
I know! He's too funny. Drew Henson would have been a stud had he not played baseball.
@2:12, Josh Navarre?? Lol
It's John.
Tate for-see-air too lol.
McCaffrey going to Northern Colorado not Colorado State
Michigan fan here. We haven't had a dominant passer since Henne. Outside of Brady, most of our guys were busts.
I have no idea what JJ McCarthy is thinking...
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Hmm would love to see this on ohio state QBs lol.
Who cares, we’ve owned Missed-again for the last twenty years lol.
Hairball clown show.
@@jimmy5634 as a mich fan i just live in the past now hairball sucks ass but at least we are good in basketball
@@jimmy5634 We own you in every other sport 😂
I am a lifelong Ohio State fan and although there has been big success in college for Buckeye QBs it has not translated to NFL talent. During this same time frame Ohio State has had players go to the league but none of them have had any success what so ever. I’m hoping Justin Fields changes that and some of our most recent players and commits do the same.
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The only recent talent they had was Tom Brady and they kept trying to put Henson in lol
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Michigan just hired a NFL running back coach form the Baltimore ravens to be the QB coach for Michigan😂😂😂💯
He was Ravens' linebackers coach, actually.
Do your research. He was a qb coach at Stanford under Jim Harbaugh.
And Jim is the qb coach
@@teampreacts5642 if you actually do your research Jim took a step back in terms of how much his hands were on the offense as he believed constantly meddling and micromanaging his offensive assistants decisions most likely fucked with their confidence as well as the player's confidence in the offensive system and staff. Another reason he took a step back with his control of the playcalling especially was due to the fact in his first three seasons it became clear that when a faster tempo is needed when your team is trying to comeback and having a chain of command like process when calling a play every down where the call has to go through three coaches before it's made the official call makes coming back from being down by more than two possessions is damn near possible. He recently said a couple weeks ago that he will be more involved with the QBs again as he was the first couple seasons when the quarterback play was far from bad as you should remember that Jake Ruddock in Harbaugh's first season developed at a very high level over the course of the 2015 season and eventually was drafted despite not being listed on most QB big board rankings entirely going into the season. Don't forget about how great Wilton Speight was playing in 2016 before his shoulder turned into cabbage due to a giant hit against Iowa but imo if that injury didn't occur that OSU game would have been at least a two possession win for Michigan as Speight was playing with severe pain from his torn rotator cuff and it showed. Could you imagine how insanely different the media narratives around Harbaugh if the referees calling the 2016 OSU game would have made the correct call or Speight wasn't fucked up? We wouldn't be having this conversation and the video above wouldn't exist.
You should definitely do a little homework on said coach as he was the first NFL offensive strategist in league history, Andrew Luck's quarterback coach (albeit he was technically the co-QB coach as Harbaugh was the main developer of Luck,) along with having endorsements from a dozen or so respected current and former NFL coaches including former pro bowl and hall of fame players who said his biggest strength is gameplan development and implementation. Baltimore was the most aggressive and successful (efficiency wise) 4th down, 2 point conversion, and most importantly the best team at coming back from 10 points or more and lastly holding onto a lead in the 4th quarter during his entire tenure as the Ravens gameplan strategist (4 or 5 years.) So his hiring and assignment to coach the quarterbacks may seem very odd to a typical peripheral fan who just sees the headline "Michigan hires Ravens RB coach as new QB coach" and immediately thinks it's a poor hire.
Patriots really wanted to duplicate that Brady - Michigan - Draft magic lol
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Great video!
I read the title and said FACTS
Me at the beginning: Yeah, but every College has busts.
Me at the end: Holy crap, not like that though.
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Hey Scott can u do a deep dive on why QBs at top schools don’t overwhelmingly succeed in the nfl ?
me Miami hurricane fan: sweating nervously
There is FARRR more to the Drew Henson story too, worthy of a video on his alone.
I thought Drew Henson played for Cowboys not Texans
He played for both
It is a notable change because Lloyd Carr's starting QBs were routinely drafted. It's even more odd because Carr's experience was on defense and Carr had a few different offensive coordinators.
hmm... Harbaugh is a "QB Whisperer" lol
@@ScottFisherCFB 😂😂😂And Bill O'Brien is a good coach🤫
There's a video to do how many badass defensive Michigan players kick ass in the NFL
Or a video on why Maurice Clarett and half the Ohio State team are bunch of scumbags cheaters
@@jasond6215 it’s okay ... I know it hurts .. the past 20 years against Ohio state. It’s been tough! I’d be upset if I was a Michigan fan too
Shea wasn’t a star at Ole Miss, of course he’d lead the SEC in passing with those weapons
i thought he was becoming one
@@ScottFisherCFB He was becoming one. He was better than jordan tamu who played very well!
Patterson was a stud he needed an o line and a d2 school though 🤣🤣
@@simitometi6219 Actually I got to disagree with you Jordan had the arm strength that Shea didn’t possess but Jordan was plagued by horrible coaching staff while Shea escaped it by going to Michigan
Matt... it’s not like UM had bad receivers the issues run so much deeper than just QB
Michigan fan here, been thinking this for years.
You forgot to talk about Shane Morris. He was a 5 star recruit, and even played in the under armour high school game before enrolling at Michigan early. He only played in one game in 2014! Brady Hoke also brought several other 5 star recruits to Ann Arbor that ended up being total busts, like Derek Green and Drake Harris!
Tom Brady: I think not
he is it haha
Tom Brady is a outlier, but darn I didn't realize their QB situation was this bad. Good video
Chad Henne. Denard Robinson
Lol
Man you can’t even be considered a bust if you get drafted it that late
USC, such a rich history of busts. Leinart, Sanchez and Darnold and that's just the past 5-6 years
*15 years
I wouldn’t say Darnold is a bust, he was on a bad team with no help and terrible coaching. I mean look how much better Baker Mayfield is with a new coach, look how much better Josh Allen is with receiving help
Darnold isn’t a bust lol
Yes he is, the numbers say he is.
incredible...if you think about it...
Had no idea mallet went to UM before Arkansas. Roll tide
Harbaugh has had talented QB recruits, but has always picked up guys from the transfer market. Instead of developing the recruits he chooses the transfers, then stunts the younger guys development. Not sure if that makes UofM QBs busts or Harbaugh overrated
Has it not been happening before him tho
Multiple things can be true at the same time.💯
Tom Brady developed himself.
Brady was developed at Michigan watch the 2000 Orange Bowl... Tom Brady carves up Alabama...
By New England...Brady was trash coming out of MU.
You forgot that Brian Griese was at Michigan the same time as Brady and played very well. Griese was drafted in the third round by the Denver Broncos and actually had a decent albeit unspectacular NFL career. He either met or exceeded expectations, depending on how you look at it, for a third rounder since he actually was a starter for good bit of time in the NFL. I can't think of a Michigan QB offhand that had a better career, other than Brady, of course unless you go all the way back to Jim Harbaugh.
I think griese played before 2000, at the beginning of the video the guy said "since 2000"
If you look back much further when xichigan had successful qb they followed a system from bo to mo to carr. When the system changed and each new head coach tried to implement their system the qbs suffered
Robinson was in a life threatening accident. It's hard to live up to hype when you can't walk. 🤦🏾♂️
It’s so confusing
seems like it
Some interesting videos like this would be the QB history or Oregon, Texas, Texas A&M, Penn St, and even smaller schools like UCF, Boise St, and Memphis
McCaffery transfered to University of Northern Colorado, not Colorado State
also it was John Navarre not "Josh"
Brady didn’t have “luck”. He had passion, dedication, and the will to be the greatest.
I find it ironic that a coach who was a great quarterback in college has had the most trouble at QB. How many have been wasted just in the past 6 seasons under Harbaugh ffs. I think the school that has come close to Michigan for wasting talent is Texas in the past decade and not just at QB either.
Michigan is right there with Texas, Georgia, usc, and maybe even Oregon in the case of wasting talent
Ohio State and Auburn need to be on that list too
@@deakon071 for what just QBs cause ostate produces so many Wrs and Dbs
@@Mokuteke yeah I should have clarified that was for quarterbacks. Definitely putting Talent in the NFL at every other position
Harbaugh was not great!!!
Drew Henson played for dallas on thanksgiving in 2004 and was benched in the third quarter for vinny testaverde
your intro is so sick
When Brady went to Michigan
Most of the Michigan fans i know didn’t even like Brady when he was there, Idk why all of the sudden they all claim him
If I remember it's not that they didn't like him...it's that Drew Henson was a Michigan born guy and huge recruit....they wanted to see him play...and all Brady did was come in after Henson would fall behind and pull them out of trouble...
@@BodieB facts Henson shouldn’t have even gotten as much pt as he did
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As an Ohio State fan this is an awesome video
I'm torturing myself right now by watching this (Michigan fan)
Harbs gotta go
I remember when Patterson originally transferred to Michigan, he was such a sure thing that I was seeing him drafted in the first round, even #1 overall, in preseason mock drafts (the assumption was he’d tear up the Big 10 and declare).
The fact that he was regarded so highly and couldn’t even make an NFL roster in the end isn’t a good look for Michigan.
It’s a bad look for the qb whisperer Harbs...
All I know is collectively during that same time frame Buckeye players have amassed and own more gold in gold pants than there is in Ft. Knox.
Do Alabama qbs
Their QB success was over half a century ago. Bart Starr, Joe Namath, and Ken Stabler.
@@nrkgalt they've had recent success since Saban has been there. AJ McCarron won 3 national titles (2 as a starter), Blake Sims won a conference title and was the first playoff QB for bama, Jake Coker won a natty, To a won a national championship, Heisman finalist and first rd draft pick, same for Jalen Hurts and Mac Jones. Hopefully we can keep it going. I think it deserves recognition just like all the other programs but because the team is so dominant the QB's get forgotten about most of the time. Give them their respect.
Recent success. AJ, Tua, Sims, Coker, Hurts. Put some respect on they name.
@@steveneddins93 I was referring to who was great in the NFL. And even though Jalen Hurts won Freshman of the Year at Alabama , he is more associated with Oklahoma.
@@nrkgalt that's cool. But since we're talking about college QBs then I'm only focused on college careers. And as an Alabama fan, Jalen Hurts' contributions at Alabama will slays be apart of Alabama history regardless of him transferring. He'll always be a National Champion at Alabama.
We’re not much better tbh atleast with our quarterbacks doing anything at the next level
Yeah we're both bad but hey Atleast both schools are prestigious lol
At least y’all won a national championship in the 2000’s
in osu defense theyve also had alot of qbs suffer career ending injurys before they could even do anything
Making it at the next level is not easy by any means. Just because a QB has success in college doesn't garantee success at the pro level, I can name several other colleges that have the same problem so this isn't a one college issue.
@@divineobsidian9813 facts but we own u at this poiny
Wow, that's a whole lot of bust there.
You gotta do Texas A&M from 2000-2021
Tom Brady…. The greatest QB in the history of Football!
Also Running backs, Wide Recivers and slot receivers
Scott add that crazy fee see lamb catch to your intro
You should do a “DBU” video
What lofi instrumental did you use?
Do this for usc QB’s
what's the song called at 5:00 ?
A couple of corrections - it's "John Navarre", not "Josh Navarre", and Jim Harbaugh is the highest drafted QB for Michigan, going in the 1st round to the Bears.
I know. Dislike this video
Make a video about the rise of Texas QBs Like Major Applewhite, Vince Young, and Colt McCoy and the fall with guys like Garrett Gilbert, Case McCoy, and Tyrone Swoopes.
Yo I forgot about speight and patterson, are they in the league?
Theres only 1 thing I really need to know about McCarthy. Ryan Day told him he couldn’t commit when he visited Ohio St and they were looking to wait until late summer/fall to take a QB... 3 weeks later Ohio St accepted a commitment from Kyle McCord.
need this with the 1980s ]\/[ichigan quarterbacks
You should do Washington huskies and Texas and Montana Grizzlies next.
Brian Griese had some solid years and had a long pro career.
That was well into the last decade. This discussion is about the 2000 decade. Brady is used as the benchmark
Outside of Brady you would have to go all the way back to Brian Griese to find a productive quarterback in the NFL that came from Michigan. As a cougar I'm still not over the 1998 Rose Bowl and we had Ryan Leaf at quarterback for that so I don't really have any room to talk
brian was a good nfl qb when healthy but he was always injuried you wonder how much better he would have been if it hadnt been injurys
@@justinalley3399 he was definitely above average and even made a Pro Bowl. I Googled him just to jog my memory and he had a longer career than I realized. Threw a surprising amount of interceptions for such a high completion rate
It’s been a LONG time since Michigan was relevant.
Straight facts!!!!!
Tom Brady is a product of his mental capacities and personal drive. Certainly not his innate athletic ability (see: combine photo)
The problem is that Michigan still has name recognition, so all the dudes who think they’re actually good, go/transfer there. What everyone else should realize at this point is that all of those guys are 2nd or 3rd tier. The problem is, they thought they were gonna go to Alabama or Clemson and step right in and realized ‘awww crap.’
Then they’re the new Michigan hope. Because you know...
Boosters...
Michigan still have the best helmets in all of football both college and pro..
ok ok I get it....OSU NFL QB bust video is needed and very true....Troy Smith....Haskins....Barret....Jones...Miller all first or second rounds picks all busts
I’m an Ohio state fan. And we are definitely a qb busy factory. Can’t even say that about Michigan bc they have Tom Brady 🐐 lol
as a mich fan the title is accurate
Wow amazed how many bowl we lost. Henne was much better than I thought. Switch from pro style by RR was a disaster but reaction to loss to Appalachian State. M go Blue
Alabama, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State, USC, Nebraska etc.. I can keep going 💯