I finally started collecting British trains this year, and the C1 is literally at the top of the list for engines I want to collect. It’s such a gorgeous loco!
This is a beautiful locomotive and with the first tender floorplate that works like the full-sized one did. The tender hookup is solved by cutting a small piece of coupler hose and pushing it on after joining the two together or use shrink tube. Bachmann was always close to the top with esthetics and lacking when it came to the mechanism from the early years till today so one might think this is a mission statement, lol. As my grandfather always said, " you have to get all her clothes and paint off before you know how pretty she is" words to live by. Great review and video, Jersey Bill
Oh dude, when ya said, "This loco was released in 2015, almost 10 years ago," I nearly spat my drink. My first thought was, that wasn't 10 years ago; it was just yesterday or something. Lol, I hate getting old.
@@michaelmackenziemathews there would be no reason for the wreck of the Flying Kipper, the wreck happened just so rev. W Awdry could have an excuse to make Henry a Black 5, like how Thomas Comes to Breakfast was written so Thomas could get his running board dip removed. Awdry was weird like that, but it was a practical weird. Edit: Henry also would never have had the Welsch coal arc leading up to the wreck of the Flying Kipper.
This was the basis for a New Haven Atlantic I created with the mechanism from a damaged C1, and a Hobbytown Boiler, assorted detail parts and subsequently added DCC, which yielded a powerful little piece. It keeps her owner very happy😊
In the US,in the same time period,there were the Gibson Girl Atlantics,and the Camelbacks,which were part and parcel of the Express and Limited services of the day! Two major operators,were the NYC,and the Reading(Camelbacks),which were noted on the Atlantic City runs! Add the SP,PRR,ACL,ATSF,and many others,that blanketed the US,from coast to coast! Small bit of history! Thank you Sam,great engine,magnificent livery,and definitely historical! Thank you 😇 😊!
I travelled to the Danum Museum in Doncaster last year to see V2 Green Arrow and No.251 was sitting next to it. At Model Rail Scotland this year Locomotion had one ex-display No.251 for £140. So glad I snapped it up, it’s a beautiful model.
I tell you what Sam, the h1 and c1 Atlantics certainly seem to be a loco you love - I think this is the 3rd video you've done of the class, but I can understand why - they're beautiful! It's a shame the LBSC h1 is so expensive, as on eBay you can only find it for over 200 quid! I'd love to get one day though Sam, and this review may prove very useful! Hope you're doing well, and a great video as always :)
Hello Sam - Yes, there is a NEW Atlantic Loco - just outshopped at the Bluebell Railway. It is named BEACHY HEAD, No.32424. It was built right there, at the Bluebell Railway in a special 'shop' which they built and named ATLANTIC HOUSE in . This LBSCR H2 Engine new-build was officially launched in October 2000, following the discovery of a suitable boiler at a factory in Maldon, Essex, which was acquired in 1987. It was running in- at the Bluebell's "Giants of Steam" weekend this year - maybe three weeks ago - and I was privileged to in one of the trains it pulled. You are quite right - it is a beautifully balanced looking Loco in Lined Black. So a success story of virtually 'scratch-built' 12" : 1ft scale. built in 25 years by a dedicated team at the Bluebell Railway.
The Bachmann C1 and H1 are absolutely stunning models. What's unfortunate is that the prices to purchase either online are absurd. I'm hoping Bachmann re-releases this model soon with some updated features
I suspect there's a fair chance they'll be re-released at some point, but doubt they'll be updated significantly as that would require an expensive retooling.
I paired an H1 with 3 12 wheel Pullmans, the colors are a great match. I don't know if it's historically accurate and I don't care. They look great together.
Hi Sam, the Adam’s Radial Tank BR class 0415 introduced 1882 is my favourite Atlantic. It was lined in black livery in BR days. I have modelled one in O gauge from a Shedmaster kit in the year 2000 I numbered it 30584. I have now fitted it with DCC Sound. Regards from Ron 🚂👍😃
Hi Sam, having scrolled through my 1958 edition of the Observer book of BR steam trains we have the following Atlantics 0415 Adam’s, the Tilbury Tank Class and the Ivatt’s C12, 13, 14, 15 and 16’s. They were all running in BR obviously with the Early Crest. Regards from Ron 🚂
As said by others, the similar Bachmann LBSC H1 is also a beautiful model - even in BR black. I like the unusual wheel arrangement and Edwardian appearance. Great review but I would have thought it merited high than a D score.
Having seen Beachy Head two weeks ago, I think that one is my favourite. It's so nice to see an Atlantic in motion again. I think both the GNR ones are on static display at the moment. So yeah, I prefer that one. However, the GNR green here looks absolutely stunning. It's a difficult one to decide I think.
I believe the LBSCR H2 was the last Atlantic built in Britain 1912ish… after that it wasn’t until this year a ‘new’ one appeared with ‘beachy head’ at the bluebell
Another useful review Sam and a lovely looking loco. As a general rule I rate Bachmann as one of the best manufacturers when it comes to looks, especially livery finish. Unfortunately I think they're mechanisms/design are below average, although they do seem to be improving that a bit with their latest releases, but are still behind other manufacturers IMO. Arguably the most expensive too, with only Hornby charging similar RRPs. At least with Hornby you can get significant discounts if you're a club member with Reward Points, special offers, using vouchers, etc if you're canny. Obviously those are generalisations and just my personal opinion. Every manufacturer seems to have areas that they're good at and others where they're not so good, plus good & bad models within their respective ranges.
I sincerely regret not buying it I think Atlantic's are such good looking and well balanced looking engines. My favourite I the GN C1 and also the Brighton atlantics
Atlantics were popular here in the US for a time, but were quickly superseded by Pacifics in passenger service and Mikados in freight service. Which were later themselves replaced by even larger engines like Northerns and Berkshires. But in the UK, steam locomotive technology peaked at 4-6-4. Mostly due to better quality coal, but also smaller tunnels that restricted locomotive size.
I would offer the 9F or Garratts as peak British steam, both were pretty good at what they were designed to do. Still, the Garratts had quite limited route availability. The limitations of Britain's loading gauge vary across the network, and although tunnels are certainly a significant component, there's a great deal of additional infrastructure that restricts the size of locos and rolling stock, much of which is in or around towns and cities (which made/makes it difficult and expensive to change), with countless overbridges and other structures like retaining walls close to the track. Even if something like a Big Boy was lowered and made narrower, it would still be way too long to negotiate most of our network. British engineers (designers) had to squeeze what they could out of constrained dimensions. Or just add another loco to the front of the train, which seemed to be the Midland Rwy's solution 😁
@@jamfjord Brunel created the best lines in the UK, partly because they were for broad gauge so more roomy, but also because like the Romans he tended to build them straight through obstacles rather than go around them. The HST prototype was tested first on Brunel's London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads line because it was the best stretch of track in the country. The Father of my best friend and neighbour was the guard on some of those test runs. They were given commemorative paperweights when it set the diesel world speed record. He gave his to my friend but also nabbed a couple of slightly damaged ones, one of which he gave to me. It's sat on my desk right now.
Standout is the Bachmann O/G5 in NER green. Love that you redoing old reviews to modern standards, it’s a good excuse to see old models like this. Been wondering why for the longest time lol. Bachmann really need to corner the market on Atlantics. Would LOVE to see more pregrouping Atlantics in Great Central or North British liveries.
Another thorough review Sam. I have the LBSCR Atlantic & it's a lovely model (but you have to treat it carefully). It wouldn't surprise me if that & the GNR Atlantics share a lot of internal parts and might even have the same chassis block.....
There are many items now included on locos that aren't functional such as brake rodding and to a certain extent lamp irons - how many people actually use them to display the correct headcode? Those that enjoy shunting or simply attaching a loco to a train appreciate sprung buffers.
Absolute gorgeous locomotive! Credits to Bachman with the livery recreation, she’s stunning, but in my eyes she just falls second to the Caledonian 812 by Bachman livery wise
Man, I wish Bachmann still made new tooled standard guage locomotives. (EFE doesn’t count) Presumably they will, but it has been a looong time since they made one. Even longer when it’s not been commissioned by a retailer
I wish someone would do the GWR De Glehn compound 102 "La France" which was tested by Churchward against 171 "Albion" which as a 4-4-2 (before reverting to 4-6-0 as a Saint) in order to evaluate the merits of compounding as compared to simple expansion locomotives.
I can't think of any British Atlantics later than the NER Z class, the last of which was built in 1918. However, in America a batch of six Milwaukee Road Class As were built in 1935, and the Belgians built six Class 12s in 1939 for use with lightweight boat-train express work.
Lovely loco Sam, despite mishaps here and there. Good heavens, you should be weighing Trix locos one day lol... ~800 - 900 grams (yes H0) are no surprise, lol. Hopefully you will be testing a sample one day. Cheerio.
Isn’t it bad to run your trains on a carpet? I’ve been told not to as the carpet hairs and lint can get into your model and destroy it, so I’ve been reluctant to build a layout on my bedroom floor because of the carpet. My carpet is pretty thin though and isn’t very thick and I use Bachmann ez track.
If you have a spare four or five days, you could go back through Sam's archive and discover all sorts of thoughts of all sorts of people including our host, on this very subject. To summarise, you're right for that very reason, it's not a good idea and he freely acknowledges it, but carries on regardless. That 'awkward bugger' character trait is highly commendable and part of the reason why we subscribe, I'd say.
For a model that’s 10 years old, it’s not that bad detail wise! I think the detailing flaws can be blamed by the age, but we can excuse that due to how incredible the model is.
You found that the motor is a three-pole but at 19:48 and sometimes later we see something between the magnetic poles of the rotor. Aren't this weights which would make the rotor its own flywheel?
What, a beand new C1 video? Yes! I’ve wanted an LBSC version for ages after your review but I’ll take a brand new Bachmann C1 happily at the right price…oh this isn’t a new loco, just a new video…
Decent review Sam, I would like to add some of bachmanns Atlantic steam locomotives to my fleet at some point, they are quite nice looking engines, when it comes to the C1 though I would like to have 251 as it is one I have seen in person and seen very recently, it’s currently sat in a building in Doncaster next to 4771 Green Arrow which I do have the new tooled bachmann V2 model of that.
It always confuses me Sam when you just make a new review of a loco, just like with the H1 Atlantic. Still Atlantics are often some of the most beautiful locos ever made, manufacturers really need to make some more (I wouldn’t say no to a Precursor Tank, or something more famous like Henry Oakley and Thundersley).
Isn’t this your 4th review of this tooling? What made you revisit this model? Btw, do the h1 and h2 smokebox doors open? My h1 arrived today and I don’t want to break it
So, I understand the difference between a 3-pole motor and a 5-pole is just the number of poles, but what about a... what do you call them? Coreless motors? What's the difference there?
@@stephendavies6949 Bachmann made one of their H2 Atlantic models in the guise of Beachy Head, from the looks of it right now it’s only available second hand but bachmann could just reissue their model of the H2 in the Beachy Head guise, we don’t really need a new model tooled up just for that particular Atlantic locomotive.
Has Bachmann finally taken pity on Sam and not included the ad for the 300 page color catalog? You know, the one that Sam always rips up into little pieces? 😅
Random question for the British people who know their history, do the guard irons around the wheels perform a similar task as an American pilot/cowcatcher, I.E. protect people from getting sliced up by the wheels?
Nice looking loco, but the cab is ridiculously small. The Brighton Atlantics are better proportioned in that respect. Bachmann don't seem to go in for pretty locos - although the Midland 0-4-4T is lovely.
Got to think the mechanism score is harsh. Not to say that the mechanism is more than it is but it gives four start performance and so it is adequate and suitable for the model. It just isn't needlessly over engineered. Other models have better mechanisms and worse performance. An overall well functioning design shouldn't be seen as a negative thing.
Pick ups on only two wheels, poor access for servicing, horrible tender to loco connection, 3 pole motor and no flywheel, not easy to fit a speaker... Seems fair to me. On the plus side it actually has bearings, unusual for Bachmann and thankfully this was made after they'd done away with their awful split chassis designs.
Hello there! I’ve been wanting to get into the hobby for some time now but it’s so incredibly expensive! Does anyone have any budget friendly recommendations?
It depends on what aspect of the hobby you're most interested in... If you just want to run some trains, then buying old locos & rolling stock on eBay (other similar auction sites are available) is probably the cheapest way in. I'm in the process of gathering "stuff" to build my young son a train set (it would be far too grand to call it a "model railway"!); initially, I'll mostly be giving him Hornby Dublo stuff to run - because what it lacks in detail and finesse it more than makes up for in being robust. If you're after the full model railway experience (i.e. building "a layout" with scenery & so forth), then eBay is still your friend, but you'll need to be looking at newer & hence more expensive stuff. Depending on your mechanical aptitude - buying non runners can result in great satisfaction when you get it going (especially when it's an easy fix & you got a bargain), just beware of important missing bits - I'd never buy a loco with missing coupling rods, for example, unless I was literally buying it for spares for another engine. Another option is to look at a smaller scale... I'd personally avoid TT120 because everything you buy will have to be brand new (more or less); so N-scale is probably your best bet. Things are a little cheaper in N vs. OO, but also half the size & eight times as fiddly. There's also fewer choices of ready-to-run locos (still quite a range though, far far more than TT120). Second hand prices seem to be quite stable, and unfortunately a bit higher than I like... hence I tend to buy the "broken" stuff, with a view to repairing it. Oh, yeah; if you want DCC and/or sound... well... Better wring the wallet out... Buying DC & then retro-fitting DCC is not hard if you're OK at soldering & have a reasonably steady hand, and I would recommend DCC despite the extra expense, if at all possible.
It feels like you've reviewed this loco like 3 times already. Haha it's probably my mind playing tricks, I rewatched the original C1 review many times, and there are the very similar H1 and H2 as well. 😆
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I finally started collecting British trains this year, and the C1 is literally at the top of the list for engines I want to collect. It’s such a gorgeous loco!
This is a beautiful locomotive and with the first tender floorplate that works like the full-sized one did. The tender hookup is solved by cutting a small piece of coupler hose and pushing it on after joining the two together or use shrink tube. Bachmann was always close to the top with esthetics and lacking when it came to the mechanism from the early years till today so one might think this is a mission statement, lol. As my grandfather always said, " you have to get all her clothes and paint off before you know how pretty she is" words to live by. Great review and video, Jersey Bill
Your grandad was a player!
The Bachmann Atlantics are absolute stunners, especially the LBSCR H1 Atlantic. 👍
They really are stunners aren't they!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I'm a sucker for the H2s myself
Oh dude, when ya said, "This loco was released in 2015, almost 10 years ago," I nearly spat my drink. My first thought was, that wasn't 10 years ago; it was just yesterday or something. Lol, I hate getting old.
hahaha I know - it's terrifying isn't it??
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The Fat Controller: I wanted an Atlantic, and that company sent me just that. 🚂
You are a very naughty engine 😡
“That ____ ____ _____ sent me that!”
What if he DID get a alentic
@@michaelmackenziemathews Than Henry might never have existed, then the NWR might have never gotten a black 5 either.
@@michaelmackenziemathews there would be no reason for the wreck of the Flying Kipper, the wreck happened just so rev. W Awdry could have an excuse to make Henry a Black 5, like how Thomas Comes to Breakfast was written so Thomas could get his running board dip removed. Awdry was weird like that, but it was a practical weird.
Edit: Henry also would never have had the Welsch coal arc leading up to the wreck of the Flying Kipper.
This was the basis for a New Haven Atlantic I created with the mechanism from a damaged C1, and a Hobbytown Boiler, assorted detail parts and subsequently added DCC, which yielded a powerful little piece. It keeps her owner very happy😊
In the US,in the same time period,there were the Gibson Girl Atlantics,and the Camelbacks,which were part and parcel of the Express and Limited services of the day! Two major operators,were the NYC,and the Reading(Camelbacks),which were noted on the Atlantic City runs! Add the SP,PRR,ACL,ATSF,and many others,that blanketed the US,from coast to coast! Small bit of history! Thank you Sam,great engine,magnificent livery,and definitely historical! Thank you 😇 😊!
Ahhhh the Bachmann C1
That hinged "firebox door" is actually a baffle plate, used to deflect the heat of the fire away from the crew
I travelled to the Danum Museum in Doncaster last year to see V2 Green Arrow and No.251 was sitting next to it. At Model Rail Scotland this year Locomotion had one ex-display No.251 for £140. So glad I snapped it up, it’s a beautiful model.
I tell you what Sam, the h1 and c1 Atlantics certainly seem to be a loco you love - I think this is the 3rd video you've done of the class, but I can understand why - they're beautiful! It's a shame the LBSC h1 is so expensive, as on eBay you can only find it for over 200 quid! I'd love to get one day though Sam, and this review may prove very useful! Hope you're doing well, and a great video as always :)
Oh I really do love them! Yeah they're pricey, but not as bad as some others!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
What a great time to release this video - after the first trips of the real C1 atlantic on the Bluebell line.
Ahh that worked out well then! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Actually the loco on Bluebell is an H2, but it used a C1 boiler.
@@stuartaaron613 Ah, my apologies. I don't pretend to know much about the class.
They've finally got it finished, then?
Hello Sam - Yes, there is a NEW Atlantic Loco - just outshopped at the Bluebell Railway. It is named BEACHY HEAD, No.32424. It was built right there, at the Bluebell Railway in a special 'shop'
which they built and named ATLANTIC HOUSE in . This LBSCR H2 Engine new-build was officially launched in October 2000, following the discovery of a suitable boiler at a factory in Maldon,
Essex, which was acquired in 1987. It was running in- at the Bluebell's "Giants of Steam" weekend this year - maybe three weeks ago - and I was privileged to in one of the trains it pulled. You
are quite right - it is a beautifully balanced looking Loco in Lined Black. So a success story of virtually 'scratch-built' 12" : 1ft scale. built in 25 years by a dedicated team at the Bluebell Railway.
Sorry - I missed out the year of building Atlantic House - it was opened in 2006. M.G.
The Bachmann C1 and H1 are absolutely stunning models. What's unfortunate is that the prices to purchase either online are absurd. I'm hoping Bachmann re-releases this model soon with some updated features
I suspect there's a fair chance they'll be re-released at some point, but doubt they'll be updated significantly as that would require an expensive retooling.
I paired an H1 with 3 12 wheel Pullmans, the colors are a great match. I don't know if it's historically accurate and I don't care. They look great together.
Just Received a D11/2 today, Bachmann certainly produce beautiful loco’s. Through you’re reviews I’d like a Claud, and now here’s another beauty.
Oh lovely - yeah the D11 is beautiful too!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam, the Adam’s Radial Tank BR class 0415 introduced 1882 is my favourite Atlantic. It was lined in black livery in BR days. I have modelled one in O gauge from a Shedmaster kit in the year 2000 I numbered it 30584. I have now fitted it with DCC Sound. Regards from Ron 🚂👍😃
Hi Sam, having scrolled through my 1958 edition of the Observer book of BR steam trains we have the following Atlantics 0415 Adam’s, the Tilbury Tank Class and the Ivatt’s C12, 13, 14, 15 and 16’s. They were all running in BR obviously with the Early Crest. Regards from Ron 🚂
A very good re review sam 👏 keep up the good work 👏
High quality reviews as always, Keep it up!
Thank you so much! :D
As said by others, the similar Bachmann LBSC H1 is also a beautiful model - even in BR black. I like the unusual wheel arrangement and Edwardian appearance. Great review but I would have thought it merited high than a D score.
Having seen Beachy Head two weeks ago, I think that one is my favourite. It's so nice to see an Atlantic in motion again. I think both the GNR ones are on static display at the moment. So yeah, I prefer that one. However, the GNR green here looks absolutely stunning. It's a difficult one to decide I think.
Awesome video Sam
Very impressive bachmann!
I believe the LBSCR H2 was the last Atlantic built in Britain 1912ish… after that it wasn’t until this year a ‘new’ one appeared with ‘beachy head’ at the bluebell
Ahh interesting - they stopped making them quite early on then, except for the new one of course!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Another useful review Sam and a lovely looking loco.
As a general rule I rate Bachmann as one of the best manufacturers when it comes to looks, especially livery finish.
Unfortunately I think they're mechanisms/design are below average, although they do seem to be improving that a bit with their latest releases, but are still behind other manufacturers IMO.
Arguably the most expensive too, with only Hornby charging similar RRPs. At least with Hornby you can get significant discounts if you're a club member with Reward Points, special offers, using vouchers, etc if you're canny.
Obviously those are generalisations and just my personal opinion. Every manufacturer seems to have areas that they're good at and others where they're not so good, plus good & bad models within their respective ranges.
I sincerely regret not buying it
I think Atlantic's are such good looking and well balanced looking engines.
My favourite I the GN C1 and also the Brighton atlantics
Atlantics were popular here in the US for a time, but were quickly superseded by Pacifics in passenger service and Mikados in freight service. Which were later themselves replaced by even larger engines like Northerns and Berkshires. But in the UK, steam locomotive technology peaked at 4-6-4. Mostly due to better quality coal, but also smaller tunnels that restricted locomotive size.
Yeah absolutely - an antiquated design, but one that I really love!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Also they were useful as powerful locos on secondary weight restricted lines some were also rebuilt as 4-6-0s. The GWR rebuilt some.
I would offer the 9F or Garratts as peak British steam, both were pretty good at what they were designed to do. Still, the Garratts had quite limited route availability. The limitations of Britain's loading gauge vary across the network, and although tunnels are certainly a significant component, there's a great deal of additional infrastructure that restricts the size of locos and rolling stock, much of which is in or around towns and cities (which made/makes it difficult and expensive to change), with countless overbridges and other structures like retaining walls close to the track. Even if something like a Big Boy was lowered and made narrower, it would still be way too long to negotiate most of our network. British engineers (designers) had to squeeze what they could out of constrained dimensions. Or just add another loco to the front of the train, which seemed to be the Midland Rwy's solution 😁
@@jamfjord Brunel created the best lines in the UK, partly because they were for broad gauge so more roomy, but also because like the Romans he tended to build them straight through obstacles rather than go around them.
The HST prototype was tested first on Brunel's London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads line because it was the best stretch of track in the country.
The Father of my best friend and neighbour was the guard on some of those test runs. They were given commemorative paperweights when it set the diesel world speed record. He gave his to my friend but also nabbed a couple of slightly damaged ones, one of which he gave to me. It's sat on my desk right now.
Standout is the Bachmann O/G5 in NER green.
Love that you redoing old reviews to modern standards, it’s a good excuse to see old models like this. Been wondering why for the longest time lol.
Bachmann really need to corner the market on Atlantics. Would LOVE to see more pregrouping Atlantics in Great Central or North British liveries.
Another thorough review Sam. I have the LBSCR Atlantic & it's a lovely model (but you have to treat it carefully). It wouldn't surprise me if that & the GNR Atlantics share a lot of internal parts and might even have the same chassis block.....
Honey, delay dinner, we have another one of sams videos to binge
hahaha!
Liked the acknowledgment of sprung buffers not really being a functional item. Thanks for that😊
There are many items now included on locos that aren't functional such as brake rodding and to a certain extent lamp irons - how many people actually use them to display the correct headcode?
Those that enjoy shunting or simply attaching a loco to a train appreciate sprung buffers.
The Atlantic is a great loco! Marsh umber is my favourite livery for the Atlantic
A small washer glued to the top of the drawbar would help to keep them connected.
I've got a Bachmann prototype Deltic still mint in box exclusive to the NRM ☺️
I got a Rails of Sheffield ad before this video no way 💀💀💀💀
Yes - What a Lovely little loco - @ 12:31I like the way you can open the Smoke Dart Door - I don't think I have any Loco which has that feature 🤔🚂🚂🚂
One of my top 5 favorite classes are the C1 atlantics, and seeing a model produced of it- i just wish I could get myself a model.. I really..
They're just amazing looking aren't they? Hopefully Bachmann bring these back!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Absolute gorgeous locomotive! Credits to Bachman with the livery recreation, she’s stunning, but in my eyes she just falls second to the Caledonian 812 by Bachman livery wise
Man, I wish Bachmann still made new tooled standard guage locomotives. (EFE doesn’t count)
Presumably they will, but it has been a looong time since they made one. Even longer when it’s not been commissioned by a retailer
I wish someone would do the GWR De Glehn compound 102 "La France" which was tested by Churchward against 171 "Albion" which as a 4-4-2 (before reverting to 4-6-0 as a Saint) in order to evaluate the merits of compounding as compared to simple expansion locomotives.
Re the drawbar, I suggest the wiring to tender is moved away from each side of the connecting pin.
I can't think of any British Atlantics later than the NER Z class, the last of which was built in 1918. However, in America a batch of six Milwaukee Road Class As were built in 1935, and the Belgians built six Class 12s in 1939 for use with lightweight boat-train express work.
Lovely loco Sam, despite mishaps here and there. Good heavens, you should be weighing Trix locos one day lol... ~800 - 900 grams (yes H0) are no surprise, lol. Hopefully you will be testing a sample one day. Cheerio.
You should really get the Rapido GNR Stirling Single once they released so you can complete the gnr express engines.
Is it me or is the front right hand side buffer drooping?
Great video thanks Sam
Isn’t it bad to run your trains on a carpet? I’ve been told not to as the carpet hairs and lint can get into your model and destroy it, so I’ve been reluctant to build a layout on my bedroom floor because of the carpet. My carpet is pretty thin though and isn’t very thick and I use Bachmann ez track.
If you have a spare four or five days, you could go back through Sam's archive and discover all sorts of thoughts of all sorts of people including our host, on this very subject.
To summarise, you're right for that very reason, it's not a good idea and he freely acknowledges it, but carries on regardless.
That 'awkward bugger' character trait is highly commendable and part of the reason why we subscribe, I'd say.
2:41
what about the newbuild LB&SCR H2 class on the bluebell railway?
Yeah that's true - but it's a pre-grouping design!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Amazing review sam
Thanks Justin!
Sam, in railroads NYC is New York Central, not New York City. I do love Atlantics by the way. Thanks!
For a model that’s 10 years old, it’s not that bad detail wise! I think the detailing flaws can be blamed by the age, but we can excuse that due to how incredible the model is.
Oh definitely - it's still very presentable detail-wise!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
That's a lovely loco Sam. I don't have one of those (yet). Edit: Found one - on the way :)
Nice video hope you review a oo gauge HST someday hopefully a FGW one
Thank you! Yeah I do need to check one of those out then!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@WojciechGamer great suggestion
I think hornby and Bachmann should do more gnr locos like the a1
I agree! :D
Hornby have done the A1
@@christopherbellamy639 no hornby did great northern in very early Lner green not gnr green
It's up there as one of my favourite got to be one of the best livery out there for me the gnr.
Got mine in a sale for £115 which was barmy
He took it out the box and RAN it? Aaagghhh!!! This video has collectors sweating, shouting and swearing at their smartphones! 😁
They're meant to be run. Keeping the poor thing in a box is just cruel. Like a wild animal cooped up in a cage. Set those locos free!😀
@@speleokeir Exactly! What use is the box anyway! 🤣
You found that the motor is a three-pole but at 19:48 and sometimes later we see something between the magnetic poles of the rotor. Aren't this weights which would make the rotor its own flywheel?
What, a beand new C1 video? Yes! I’ve wanted an LBSC version for ages after your review but I’ll take a brand new Bachmann C1 happily at the right price…oh this isn’t a new loco, just a new video…
Decent review Sam, I would like to add some of bachmanns Atlantic steam locomotives to my fleet at some point, they are quite nice looking engines, when it comes to the C1 though I would like to have 251 as it is one I have seen in person and seen very recently, it’s currently sat in a building in Doncaster next to 4771 Green Arrow which I do have the new tooled bachmann V2 model of that.
Thanks David - I can highly recommend it if you can find one!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It always confuses me Sam when you just make a new review of a loco, just like with the H1 Atlantic. Still Atlantics are often some of the most beautiful locos ever made, manufacturers really need to make some more (I wouldn’t say no to a Precursor Tank, or something more famous like Henry Oakley and Thundersley).
haha sorry about that - thought this one deserved a new review!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
A Jersey Lily would be my choice. Followed closely by a Highflyer and a Reid atlantic.
What about the C12 4-4-2Ts
Hey! Nice video, do you recon I should buy this model?
Hi Sam, did you see Beachy Head and Sir Nigel double heading at the Bluebell Railway giants of steam gala🤔
Isn’t this your 4th review of this tooling? What made you revisit this model? Btw, do the h1 and h2 smokebox doors open? My h1 arrived today and I don’t want to break it
Sams & Atlantics
haha!
I’ve wanted this for so long, but it’s hard to find.
I didn’t have the money when it was easy to get.
You should review the backman southern pacific daylight
So, I understand the difference between a 3-pole motor and a 5-pole is just the number of poles, but what about a... what do you call them? Coreless motors? What's the difference there?
I've got a GMR Air fix OO Royal Scott class. Itts the only loco I have where the motor is in the tender.
Hi Sam. Perhaps now Beachy Head is now steaming on the Bluebell Railway, someone will tool up to manufacture & market an Atlantic?
@@stephendavies6949 Bachmann made one of their H2 Atlantic models in the guise of Beachy Head, from the looks of it right now it’s only available second hand but bachmann could just reissue their model of the H2 in the Beachy Head guise, we don’t really need a new model tooled up just for that particular Atlantic locomotive.
@@davidstrains4910 Yes, but this event could be the catalyst to re-tool it
What was happening @ 26:52 with the last coach?
Has Bachmann finally taken pity on Sam and not included the ad for the 300 page color catalog? You know, the one that Sam always rips up into little pieces? 😅
Random question for the British people who know their history, do the guard irons around the wheels perform a similar task as an American pilot/cowcatcher, I.E. protect people from getting sliced up by the wheels?
Exactly so: in British locos they are called life guards, for obvious reasons!
Nice looking loco, but the cab is ridiculously small. The Brighton Atlantics are better proportioned in that respect.
Bachmann don't seem to go in for pretty locos - although the Midland 0-4-4T is lovely.
Sam great review, but could you wear cotton gloves, you have left your finger prints on previous model reviews
"I wanted an Atlantic, " The Fat Controller told The Inspector, "And that very nice man sent me one, at a cheap price no less!"
haha love it!!
I mean, it’s no Hornby Beatles loco, but I guess it’s not too shabby 🤪🤭
My dream loco but sadly I can’t afford it 😢
Ahh sorry to hear that - hopefully they'll come round again some time and go in the sale!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Boy, youar really strining to come up with material for your shows these days. Recently you've been showing very old purchases
Seem to go from about £200 on eBay based on recent sales. Not that bad
Got to think the mechanism score is harsh. Not to say that the mechanism is more than it is but it gives four start performance and so it is adequate and suitable for the model. It just isn't needlessly over engineered.
Other models have better mechanisms and worse performance.
An overall well functioning design shouldn't be seen as a negative thing.
Pick ups on only two wheels, poor access for servicing, horrible tender to loco connection, 3 pole motor and no flywheel, not easy to fit a speaker... Seems fair to me.
On the plus side it actually has bearings, unusual for Bachmann and thankfully this was made after they'd done away with their awful split chassis designs.
Sorry but the crawl on this is no better than hornbys ancient 4f that you slated. Hmmm
Bachmann most likely still make the c1 because on spare parts store they have everything to a new c1
Ahh interesting - wonder if you could build one using parts?!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains you can you just need the screws I made a complete a2 chassis
How do you callculate pulling power?
Hello there! I’ve been wanting to get into the hobby for some time now but it’s so incredibly expensive!
Does anyone have any budget friendly recommendations?
It depends on what aspect of the hobby you're most interested in...
If you just want to run some trains, then buying old locos & rolling stock on eBay (other similar auction sites are available) is probably the cheapest way in. I'm in the process of gathering "stuff" to build my young son a train set (it would be far too grand to call it a "model railway"!); initially, I'll mostly be giving him Hornby Dublo stuff to run - because what it lacks in detail and finesse it more than makes up for in being robust.
If you're after the full model railway experience (i.e. building "a layout" with scenery & so forth), then eBay is still your friend, but you'll need to be looking at newer & hence more expensive stuff. Depending on your mechanical aptitude - buying non runners can result in great satisfaction when you get it going (especially when it's an easy fix & you got a bargain), just beware of important missing bits - I'd never buy a loco with missing coupling rods, for example, unless I was literally buying it for spares for another engine.
Another option is to look at a smaller scale... I'd personally avoid TT120 because everything you buy will have to be brand new (more or less); so N-scale is probably your best bet. Things are a little cheaper in N vs. OO, but also half the size & eight times as fiddly. There's also fewer choices of ready-to-run locos (still quite a range though, far far more than TT120). Second hand prices seem to be quite stable, and unfortunately a bit higher than I like... hence I tend to buy the "broken" stuff, with a view to repairing it.
Oh, yeah; if you want DCC and/or sound... well... Better wring the wallet out... Buying DC & then retro-fitting DCC is not hard if you're OK at soldering & have a reasonably steady hand, and I would recommend DCC despite the extra expense, if at all possible.
@@theelectricmonk3909 thank you
It's not a New York City Hudson. It's New York Central.
Really love Atlantics! If only they made them in N Scale
Meanwhile, we still haven't gotten an Atlantic in N scale. -_-
I can’t think of a new-build Atlantic… 😂😂
YES MY GOAT!!!!! I WANT IT SO BAD!!!
Where’s the other video?
Where did you find it
I believe I bought this one from Warley many years ago!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thanks I was just at a train show I got my first Bachmann engine it was worth it
Quite a lot of carpet flick getting in the way of the detail on this Sam can you give everything a brush over first please .
Henry better not see him lol
What no Hornby ????
hahaha! They don't make any Atlantics, except the Adams radial of course!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I wanted a atlantic and that _____ sent me this
It feels like you've reviewed this loco like 3 times already. Haha it's probably my mind playing tricks, I rewatched the original C1 review many times, and there are the very similar H1 and H2 as well. 😆
haha no not 3 times, only reviewed this once before I believe... but there are other Atlantics I've done!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
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Spooky!!
@@SamsTrains 😂 Two ghosts up . Good review ! THX
There is a C1 but it is 280 pounds is it overpriced
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