I finally started collecting British trains this year, and the C1 is literally at the top of the list for engines I want to collect. It’s such a gorgeous loco!
This is a beautiful locomotive and with the first tender floorplate that works like the full-sized one did. The tender hookup is solved by cutting a small piece of coupler hose and pushing it on after joining the two together or use shrink tube. Bachmann was always close to the top with esthetics and lacking when it came to the mechanism from the early years till today so one might think this is a mission statement, lol. As my grandfather always said, " you have to get all her clothes and paint off before you know how pretty she is" words to live by. Great review and video, Jersey Bill
Oh dude, when ya said, "This loco was released in 2015, almost 10 years ago," I nearly spat my drink. My first thought was, that wasn't 10 years ago; it was just yesterday or something. Lol, I hate getting old.
@@michaelmackenziemathews there would be no reason for the wreck of the Flying Kipper, the wreck happened just so rev. W Awdry could have an excuse to make Henry a Black 5, like how Thomas Comes to Breakfast was written so Thomas could get his running board dip removed. Awdry was weird like that, but it was a practical weird. Edit: Henry also would never have had the Welsch coal arc leading up to the wreck of the Flying Kipper.
This was the basis for a New Haven Atlantic I created with the mechanism from a damaged C1, and a Hobbytown Boiler, assorted detail parts and subsequently added DCC, which yielded a powerful little piece. It keeps her owner very happy😊
I travelled to the Danum Museum in Doncaster last year to see V2 Green Arrow and No.251 was sitting next to it. At Model Rail Scotland this year Locomotion had one ex-display No.251 for £140. So glad I snapped it up, it’s a beautiful model.
In the US,in the same time period,there were the Gibson Girl Atlantics,and the Camelbacks,which were part and parcel of the Express and Limited services of the day! Two major operators,were the NYC,and the Reading(Camelbacks),which were noted on the Atlantic City runs! Add the SP,PRR,ACL,ATSF,and many others,that blanketed the US,from coast to coast! Small bit of history! Thank you Sam,great engine,magnificent livery,and definitely historical! Thank you 😇 😊!
I paired an H1 with 3 12 wheel Pullmans, the colors are a great match. I don't know if it's historically accurate and I don't care. They look great together.
I tell you what Sam, the h1 and c1 Atlantics certainly seem to be a loco you love - I think this is the 3rd video you've done of the class, but I can understand why - they're beautiful! It's a shame the LBSC h1 is so expensive, as on eBay you can only find it for over 200 quid! I'd love to get one day though Sam, and this review may prove very useful! Hope you're doing well, and a great video as always :)
Hello Sam - Yes, there is a NEW Atlantic Loco - just outshopped at the Bluebell Railway. It is named BEACHY HEAD, No.32424. It was built right there, at the Bluebell Railway in a special 'shop' which they built and named ATLANTIC HOUSE in . This LBSCR H2 Engine new-build was officially launched in October 2000, following the discovery of a suitable boiler at a factory in Maldon, Essex, which was acquired in 1987. It was running in- at the Bluebell's "Giants of Steam" weekend this year - maybe three weeks ago - and I was privileged to in one of the trains it pulled. You are quite right - it is a beautifully balanced looking Loco in Lined Black. So a success story of virtually 'scratch-built' 12" : 1ft scale. built in 25 years by a dedicated team at the Bluebell Railway.
Another thorough review Sam. I have the LBSCR Atlantic & it's a lovely model (but you have to treat it carefully). It wouldn't surprise me if that & the GNR Atlantics share a lot of internal parts and might even have the same chassis block.....
Another useful review Sam and a lovely looking loco. As a general rule I rate Bachmann as one of the best manufacturers when it comes to looks, especially livery finish. Unfortunately I think they're mechanisms/design are below average, although they do seem to be improving that a bit with their latest releases, but are still behind other manufacturers IMO. Arguably the most expensive too, with only Hornby charging similar RRPs. At least with Hornby you can get significant discounts if you're a club member with Reward Points, special offers, using vouchers, etc if you're canny. Obviously those are generalisations and just my personal opinion. Every manufacturer seems to have areas that they're good at and others where they're not so good, plus good & bad models within their respective ranges.
Having seen Beachy Head two weeks ago, I think that one is my favourite. It's so nice to see an Atlantic in motion again. I think both the GNR ones are on static display at the moment. So yeah, I prefer that one. However, the GNR green here looks absolutely stunning. It's a difficult one to decide I think.
As said by others, the similar Bachmann LBSC H1 is also a beautiful model - even in BR black. I like the unusual wheel arrangement and Edwardian appearance. Great review but I would have thought it merited high than a D score.
You found that the motor is a three-pole but at 19:48 and sometimes later we see something between the magnetic poles of the rotor. Aren't this weights which would make the rotor its own flywheel?
@@1earedwolf Huh? At least Fleischmann did this with their ringfield motor. They created three pole rotors with additional weights between the poles. Ringfield or "pancake" motors leave usually no room for a separate flywheel.
Hi Sam, the Adam’s Radial Tank BR class 0415 introduced 1882 is my favourite Atlantic. It was lined in black livery in BR days. I have modelled one in O gauge from a Shedmaster kit in the year 2000 I numbered it 30584. I have now fitted it with DCC Sound. Regards from Ron 🚂👍😃
Hi Sam, having scrolled through my 1958 edition of the Observer book of BR steam trains we have the following Atlantics 0415 Adam’s, the Tilbury Tank Class and the Ivatt’s C12, 13, 14, 15 and 16’s. They were all running in BR obviously with the Early Crest. Regards from Ron 🚂
The Bachmann C1 and H1 are absolutely stunning models. What's unfortunate is that the prices to purchase either online are absurd. I'm hoping Bachmann re-releases this model soon with some updated features
I suspect there's a fair chance they'll be re-released at some point, but doubt they'll be updated significantly as that would require an expensive retooling.
Very nice looking loco. The original green would be slightly different to any repaints as paint tech was developed by the Germans in the 1920's to get rid of some of the harmful chemical elements and this would change the shade of green and the paint finish would change on every cleaning of the loco dependent on the cleaning method.
I believe the LBSCR H2 was the last Atlantic built in Britain 1912ish… after that it wasn’t until this year a ‘new’ one appeared with ‘beachy head’ at the bluebell
Atlantics were popular here in the US for a time, but were quickly superseded by Pacifics in passenger service and Mikados in freight service. Which were later themselves replaced by even larger engines like Northerns and Berkshires. But in the UK, steam locomotive technology peaked at 4-6-4. Mostly due to better quality coal, but also smaller tunnels that restricted locomotive size.
I would offer the 9F or Garratts as peak British steam, both were pretty good at what they were designed to do. Still, the Garratts had quite limited route availability. The limitations of Britain's loading gauge vary across the network, and although tunnels are certainly a significant component, there's a great deal of additional infrastructure that restricts the size of locos and rolling stock, much of which is in or around towns and cities (which made/makes it difficult and expensive to change), with countless overbridges and other structures like retaining walls close to the track. Even if something like a Big Boy was lowered and made narrower, it would still be way too long to negotiate most of our network. British engineers (designers) had to squeeze what they could out of constrained dimensions. Or just add another loco to the front of the train, which seemed to be the Midland Rwy's solution 😁
@@jamfjord Brunel created the best lines in the UK, partly because they were for broad gauge so more roomy, but also because like the Romans he tended to build them straight through obstacles rather than go around them. The HST prototype was tested first on Brunel's London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads line because it was the best stretch of track in the country. The Father of my best friend and neighbour was the guard on some of those test runs. They were given commemorative paperweights when it set the diesel world speed record. He gave his to my friend but also nabbed a couple of slightly damaged ones, one of which he gave to me. It's sat on my desk right now.
There are many items now included on locos that aren't functional such as brake rodding and to a certain extent lamp irons - how many people actually use them to display the correct headcode? Those that enjoy shunting or simply attaching a loco to a train appreciate sprung buffers.
What, a brand new C1 video? Yes! I’ve wanted an LBSC version for ages after your review but I’ll take a brand new Bachmann C1 happily at the right price…oh this isn’t a new loco, just a new video…
I wish someone would do the GWR De Glehn compound 102 "La France" which was tested by Churchward against 171 "Albion" which as a 4-4-2 (before reverting to 4-6-0 as a Saint) in order to evaluate the merits of compounding as compared to simple expansion locomotives.
Absolute gorgeous locomotive! Credits to Bachman with the livery recreation, she’s stunning, but in my eyes she just falls second to the Caledonian 812 by Bachman livery wise
I can't think of any British Atlantics later than the NER Z class, the last of which was built in 1918. However, in America a batch of six Milwaukee Road Class As were built in 1935, and the Belgians built six Class 12s in 1939 for use with lightweight boat-train express work.
Lovely loco Sam, despite mishaps here and there. Good heavens, you should be weighing Trix locos one day lol... ~800 - 900 grams (yes H0) are no surprise, lol. Hopefully you will be testing a sample one day. Cheerio.
I sincerely regret not buying it I think Atlantic's are such good looking and well balanced looking engines. My favourite I the GN C1 and also the Brighton atlantics
Sam! It’s been awhile, I’ve started planning my layout, I now have 2 working engines, the Hornby Railroads Flying Scotsman, and the Bachmann V2. (old tooled version) Do you have any tips for building my layout?
Isn’t it bad to run your trains on a carpet? I’ve been told not to as the carpet hairs and lint can get into your model and destroy it, so I’ve been reluctant to build a layout on my bedroom floor because of the carpet. My carpet is pretty thin though and isn’t very thick and I use Bachmann ez track.
If you have a spare four or five days, you could go back through Sam's archive and discover all sorts of thoughts of all sorts of people including our host, on this very subject. To summarise, you're right for that very reason, it's not a good idea and he freely acknowledges it, but carries on regardless. That 'awkward bugger' character trait is highly commendable and part of the reason why we subscribe, I'd say.
And I was wondering if y can do a video of him, do the unboxing part where y get him out of the packaging, review the detail of him, review the mechanism, run him around the layout and maybe put some other character's on the layout too like Bachmann Thomas, James and maybe Percy too Just a fun idea incase.
Standout is the Bachmann O/G5 in NER green. Love that you redoing old reviews to modern standards, it’s a good excuse to see old models like this. Been wondering why for the longest time lol. Bachmann really need to corner the market on Atlantics. Would LOVE to see more pregrouping Atlantics in Great Central or North British liveries.
Decent review Sam, I would like to add some of bachmanns Atlantic steam locomotives to my fleet at some point, they are quite nice looking engines, when it comes to the C1 though I would like to have 251 as it is one I have seen in person and seen very recently, it’s currently sat in a building in Doncaster next to 4771 Green Arrow which I do have the new tooled bachmann V2 model of that.
Isn’t this your 4th review of this tooling? What made you revisit this model? Btw, do the h1 and h2 smokebox doors open? My h1 arrived today and I don’t want to break it
So, I understand the difference between a 3-pole motor and a 5-pole is just the number of poles, but what about a... what do you call them? Coreless motors? What's the difference there?
@@stephendavies6949 Bachmann made one of their H2 Atlantic models in the guise of Beachy Head, from the looks of it right now it’s only available second hand but bachmann could just reissue their model of the H2 in the Beachy Head guise, we don’t really need a new model tooled up just for that particular Atlantic locomotive.
For a model that’s 10 years old, it’s not that bad detail wise! I think the detailing flaws can be blamed by the age, but we can excuse that due to how incredible the model is.
Man, I wish Bachmann still made new tooled standard guage locomotives. (EFE doesn’t count) Presumably they will, but it has been a looong time since they made one. Even longer when it’s not been commissioned by a retailer
I doubt we'll see a new steam loco in the main range again for a very long tbh. The last one announced was back in 2018 and that was the half-assed retooled V2. The T3 for EFE Rail was a nice surprise and all but i wish it was in the main range honestly. Bachmann are too busy with Modern Image and OO9 atm. Just as you said, it seems like the only way we'll get a new Bachmann steam loco nowadays is via comission by a retailer. Just my thoughts 🤷♂️
Random question for the British people who know their history, do the guard irons around the wheels perform a similar task as an American pilot/cowcatcher, I.E. protect people from getting sliced up by the wheels?
Hello there! I’ve been wanting to get into the hobby for some time now but it’s so incredibly expensive! Does anyone have any budget friendly recommendations?
It depends on what aspect of the hobby you're most interested in... If you just want to run some trains, then buying old locos & rolling stock on eBay (other similar auction sites are available) is probably the cheapest way in. I'm in the process of gathering "stuff" to build my young son a train set (it would be far too grand to call it a "model railway"!); initially, I'll mostly be giving him Hornby Dublo stuff to run - because what it lacks in detail and finesse it more than makes up for in being robust. If you're after the full model railway experience (i.e. building "a layout" with scenery & so forth), then eBay is still your friend, but you'll need to be looking at newer & hence more expensive stuff. Depending on your mechanical aptitude - buying non runners can result in great satisfaction when you get it going (especially when it's an easy fix & you got a bargain), just beware of important missing bits - I'd never buy a loco with missing coupling rods, for example, unless I was literally buying it for spares for another engine. Another option is to look at a smaller scale... I'd personally avoid TT120 because everything you buy will have to be brand new (more or less); so N-scale is probably your best bet. Things are a little cheaper in N vs. OO, but also half the size & eight times as fiddly. There's also fewer choices of ready-to-run locos (still quite a range though, far far more than TT120). Second hand prices seem to be quite stable, and unfortunately a bit higher than I like... hence I tend to buy the "broken" stuff, with a view to repairing it. Oh, yeah; if you want DCC and/or sound... well... Better wring the wallet out... Buying DC & then retro-fitting DCC is not hard if you're OK at soldering & have a reasonably steady hand, and I would recommend DCC despite the extra expense, if at all possible.
Got to think the mechanism score is harsh. Not to say that the mechanism is more than it is but it gives four start performance and so it is adequate and suitable for the model. It just isn't needlessly over engineered. Other models have better mechanisms and worse performance. An overall well functioning design shouldn't be seen as a negative thing.
Pick ups on only two wheels, poor access for servicing, horrible tender to loco connection, 3 pole motor and no flywheel, not easy to fit a speaker... Seems fair to me. On the plus side it actually has bearings, unusual for Bachmann and thankfully this was made after they'd done away with their awful split chassis designs.
Nice looking loco, but the cab is ridiculously small. The Brighton Atlantics are better proportioned in that respect. Bachmann don't seem to go in for pretty locos - although the Midland 0-4-4T is lovely.
I finally started collecting British trains this year, and the C1 is literally at the top of the list for engines I want to collect. It’s such a gorgeous loco!
This is a beautiful locomotive and with the first tender floorplate that works like the full-sized one did. The tender hookup is solved by cutting a small piece of coupler hose and pushing it on after joining the two together or use shrink tube. Bachmann was always close to the top with esthetics and lacking when it came to the mechanism from the early years till today so one might think this is a mission statement, lol. As my grandfather always said, " you have to get all her clothes and paint off before you know how pretty she is" words to live by. Great review and video, Jersey Bill
Your grandad was a player!
Oh dude, when ya said, "This loco was released in 2015, almost 10 years ago," I nearly spat my drink. My first thought was, that wasn't 10 years ago; it was just yesterday or something. Lol, I hate getting old.
hahaha I know - it's terrifying isn't it??
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The Bachmann Atlantics are absolute stunners, especially the LBSCR H1 Atlantic. 👍
They really are stunners aren't they!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I'm a sucker for the H2s myself
Since when did blue comments exist on yt 💀
That hinged "firebox door" is actually a baffle plate, used to deflect the heat of the fire away from the crew
The Fat Controller: I wanted an Atlantic, and that company sent me just that. 🚂
You are a very naughty engine 😡
“That ____ ____ _____ sent me that!”
What if he DID get a alentic
@@michaelmackenziemathews Than Henry might never have existed, then the NWR might have never gotten a black 5 either.
@@michaelmackenziemathews there would be no reason for the wreck of the Flying Kipper, the wreck happened just so rev. W Awdry could have an excuse to make Henry a Black 5, like how Thomas Comes to Breakfast was written so Thomas could get his running board dip removed. Awdry was weird like that, but it was a practical weird.
Edit: Henry also would never have had the Welsch coal arc leading up to the wreck of the Flying Kipper.
Ahhhh the Bachmann C1
This was the basis for a New Haven Atlantic I created with the mechanism from a damaged C1, and a Hobbytown Boiler, assorted detail parts and subsequently added DCC, which yielded a powerful little piece. It keeps her owner very happy😊
I travelled to the Danum Museum in Doncaster last year to see V2 Green Arrow and No.251 was sitting next to it. At Model Rail Scotland this year Locomotion had one ex-display No.251 for £140. So glad I snapped it up, it’s a beautiful model.
In the US,in the same time period,there were the Gibson Girl Atlantics,and the Camelbacks,which were part and parcel of the Express and Limited services of the day! Two major operators,were the NYC,and the Reading(Camelbacks),which were noted on the Atlantic City runs! Add the SP,PRR,ACL,ATSF,and many others,that blanketed the US,from coast to coast! Small bit of history! Thank you Sam,great engine,magnificent livery,and definitely historical! Thank you 😇 😊!
2:41
what about the newbuild LB&SCR H2 class on the bluebell railway?
Yeah that's true - but it's a pre-grouping design!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Wow, there are a lot of similar Atlantics like this! I do agree though, this one is very beautiful!
The intruder is that NER 0-4-4T. Good video on a great set of engines and topical tools now that we can finally experience an Atlantic in real life!
Just Received a D11/2 today, Bachmann certainly produce beautiful loco’s. Through you’re reviews I’d like a Claud, and now here’s another beauty.
Oh lovely - yeah the D11 is beautiful too!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I paired an H1 with 3 12 wheel Pullmans, the colors are a great match. I don't know if it's historically accurate and I don't care. They look great together.
I tell you what Sam, the h1 and c1 Atlantics certainly seem to be a loco you love - I think this is the 3rd video you've done of the class, but I can understand why - they're beautiful! It's a shame the LBSC h1 is so expensive, as on eBay you can only find it for over 200 quid! I'd love to get one day though Sam, and this review may prove very useful! Hope you're doing well, and a great video as always :)
Oh I really do love them! Yeah they're pricey, but not as bad as some others!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hello Sam - Yes, there is a NEW Atlantic Loco - just outshopped at the Bluebell Railway. It is named BEACHY HEAD, No.32424. It was built right there, at the Bluebell Railway in a special 'shop'
which they built and named ATLANTIC HOUSE in . This LBSCR H2 Engine new-build was officially launched in October 2000, following the discovery of a suitable boiler at a factory in Maldon,
Essex, which was acquired in 1987. It was running in- at the Bluebell's "Giants of Steam" weekend this year - maybe three weeks ago - and I was privileged to in one of the trains it pulled. You
are quite right - it is a beautifully balanced looking Loco in Lined Black. So a success story of virtually 'scratch-built' 12" : 1ft scale. built in 25 years by a dedicated team at the Bluebell Railway.
Sorry - I missed out the year of building Atlantic House - it was opened in 2006. M.G.
A very good re review sam 👏 keep up the good work 👏
I wanted an atlantic! - the fat controller would fume - and that _____, ______ ______ sent me that!
What was happening @ 26:52 with the last coach?
Another thorough review Sam. I have the LBSCR Atlantic & it's a lovely model (but you have to treat it carefully). It wouldn't surprise me if that & the GNR Atlantics share a lot of internal parts and might even have the same chassis block.....
Another useful review Sam and a lovely looking loco.
As a general rule I rate Bachmann as one of the best manufacturers when it comes to looks, especially livery finish.
Unfortunately I think they're mechanisms/design are below average, although they do seem to be improving that a bit with their latest releases, but are still behind other manufacturers IMO.
Arguably the most expensive too, with only Hornby charging similar RRPs. At least with Hornby you can get significant discounts if you're a club member with Reward Points, special offers, using vouchers, etc if you're canny.
Obviously those are generalisations and just my personal opinion. Every manufacturer seems to have areas that they're good at and others where they're not so good, plus good & bad models within their respective ranges.
Awesome video Sam
It's a beautiful model, that's for sure, but I've got a 4-4-0 Director, as preserved "Butler Henderson", and the livery on that is stunning..
That really is a very pretty loco. Fingers crossed for a re-release!
Having seen Beachy Head two weeks ago, I think that one is my favourite. It's so nice to see an Atlantic in motion again. I think both the GNR ones are on static display at the moment. So yeah, I prefer that one. However, the GNR green here looks absolutely stunning. It's a difficult one to decide I think.
High quality reviews as always, Keep it up!
Thank you so much! :D
As said by others, the similar Bachmann LBSC H1 is also a beautiful model - even in BR black. I like the unusual wheel arrangement and Edwardian appearance. Great review but I would have thought it merited high than a D score.
You found that the motor is a three-pole but at 19:48 and sometimes later we see something between the magnetic poles of the rotor. Aren't this weights which would make the rotor its own flywheel?
No, because they create the energy, they don't hold the momentum caused from the energy.
@@1earedwolf Huh? At least Fleischmann did this with their ringfield motor. They created three pole rotors with additional weights between the poles. Ringfield or "pancake" motors leave usually no room for a separate flywheel.
Hi Sam, the Adam’s Radial Tank BR class 0415 introduced 1882 is my favourite Atlantic. It was lined in black livery in BR days. I have modelled one in O gauge from a Shedmaster kit in the year 2000 I numbered it 30584. I have now fitted it with DCC Sound. Regards from Ron 🚂👍😃
Hi Sam, having scrolled through my 1958 edition of the Observer book of BR steam trains we have the following Atlantics 0415 Adam’s, the Tilbury Tank Class and the Ivatt’s C12, 13, 14, 15 and 16’s. They were all running in BR obviously with the Early Crest. Regards from Ron 🚂
The Bachmann C1 and H1 are absolutely stunning models. What's unfortunate is that the prices to purchase either online are absurd. I'm hoping Bachmann re-releases this model soon with some updated features
I suspect there's a fair chance they'll be re-released at some point, but doubt they'll be updated significantly as that would require an expensive retooling.
What a great time to release this video - after the first trips of the real C1 atlantic on the Bluebell line.
Ahh that worked out well then! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Actually the loco on Bluebell is an H2, but it used a C1 boiler.
@@stuartaaron613 Ah, my apologies. I don't pretend to know much about the class.
They've finally got it finished, then?
Very nice looking loco. The original green would be slightly different to any repaints as paint tech was developed by the Germans in the 1920's to get rid of some of the harmful chemical elements and this would change the shade of green and the paint finish would change on every cleaning of the loco dependent on the cleaning method.
Very impressive bachmann!
Yes - What a Lovely little loco - @ 12:31I like the way you can open the Smoke Dart Door - I don't think I have any Loco which has that feature 🤔🚂🚂🚂
I believe the LBSCR H2 was the last Atlantic built in Britain 1912ish… after that it wasn’t until this year a ‘new’ one appeared with ‘beachy head’ at the bluebell
Ahh interesting - they stopped making them quite early on then, except for the new one of course!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
A small washer glued to the top of the drawbar would help to keep them connected.
Honey, delay dinner, we have another one of sams videos to binge
hahaha!
I've got a Bachmann prototype Deltic still mint in box exclusive to the NRM ☺️
Atlantics were popular here in the US for a time, but were quickly superseded by Pacifics in passenger service and Mikados in freight service. Which were later themselves replaced by even larger engines like Northerns and Berkshires. But in the UK, steam locomotive technology peaked at 4-6-4. Mostly due to better quality coal, but also smaller tunnels that restricted locomotive size.
Yeah absolutely - an antiquated design, but one that I really love!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Also they were useful as powerful locos on secondary weight restricted lines some were also rebuilt as 4-6-0s. The GWR rebuilt some.
I would offer the 9F or Garratts as peak British steam, both were pretty good at what they were designed to do. Still, the Garratts had quite limited route availability. The limitations of Britain's loading gauge vary across the network, and although tunnels are certainly a significant component, there's a great deal of additional infrastructure that restricts the size of locos and rolling stock, much of which is in or around towns and cities (which made/makes it difficult and expensive to change), with countless overbridges and other structures like retaining walls close to the track. Even if something like a Big Boy was lowered and made narrower, it would still be way too long to negotiate most of our network. British engineers (designers) had to squeeze what they could out of constrained dimensions. Or just add another loco to the front of the train, which seemed to be the Midland Rwy's solution 😁
@@jamfjord Brunel created the best lines in the UK, partly because they were for broad gauge so more roomy, but also because like the Romans he tended to build them straight through obstacles rather than go around them.
The HST prototype was tested first on Brunel's London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads line because it was the best stretch of track in the country.
The Father of my best friend and neighbour was the guard on some of those test runs. They were given commemorative paperweights when it set the diesel world speed record. He gave his to my friend but also nabbed a couple of slightly damaged ones, one of which he gave to me. It's sat on my desk right now.
Liked the acknowledgment of sprung buffers not really being a functional item. Thanks for that😊
There are many items now included on locos that aren't functional such as brake rodding and to a certain extent lamp irons - how many people actually use them to display the correct headcode?
Those that enjoy shunting or simply attaching a loco to a train appreciate sprung buffers.
Great video thanks Sam
What, a brand new C1 video? Yes! I’ve wanted an LBSC version for ages after your review but I’ll take a brand new Bachmann C1 happily at the right price…oh this isn’t a new loco, just a new video…
I wish someone would do the GWR De Glehn compound 102 "La France" which was tested by Churchward against 171 "Albion" which as a 4-4-2 (before reverting to 4-6-0 as a Saint) in order to evaluate the merits of compounding as compared to simple expansion locomotives.
Re the drawbar, I suggest the wiring to tender is moved away from each side of the connecting pin.
The Atlantic is a great loco! Marsh umber is my favourite livery for the Atlantic
Absolute gorgeous locomotive! Credits to Bachman with the livery recreation, she’s stunning, but in my eyes she just falls second to the Caledonian 812 by Bachman livery wise
I can't think of any British Atlantics later than the NER Z class, the last of which was built in 1918. However, in America a batch of six Milwaukee Road Class As were built in 1935, and the Belgians built six Class 12s in 1939 for use with lightweight boat-train express work.
I've got a GMR Air fix OO Royal Scott class. Itts the only loco I have where the motor is in the tender.
Amazing review sam
Thanks Justin!
Lovely loco Sam, despite mishaps here and there. Good heavens, you should be weighing Trix locos one day lol... ~800 - 900 grams (yes H0) are no surprise, lol. Hopefully you will be testing a sample one day. Cheerio.
Hey! Nice video, do you recon I should buy this model?
I have several good little locomotives that I can use on my layout, but they’re all Southern steam locomotives like the T9!!
One of my top 5 favorite classes are the C1 atlantics, and seeing a model produced of it- i just wish I could get myself a model.. I really..
They're just amazing looking aren't they? Hopefully Bachmann bring these back!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I sincerely regret not buying it
I think Atlantic's are such good looking and well balanced looking engines.
My favourite I the GN C1 and also the Brighton atlantics
I'd love an LBSC umber Atlantic, I wanted 'La France'
Sam! It’s been awhile, I’ve started planning my layout, I now have 2 working engines, the Hornby Railroads Flying Scotsman, and the Bachmann V2. (old tooled version) Do you have any tips for building my layout?
Isn’t it bad to run your trains on a carpet? I’ve been told not to as the carpet hairs and lint can get into your model and destroy it, so I’ve been reluctant to build a layout on my bedroom floor because of the carpet. My carpet is pretty thin though and isn’t very thick and I use Bachmann ez track.
If you have a spare four or five days, you could go back through Sam's archive and discover all sorts of thoughts of all sorts of people including our host, on this very subject.
To summarise, you're right for that very reason, it's not a good idea and he freely acknowledges it, but carries on regardless.
That 'awkward bugger' character trait is highly commendable and part of the reason why we subscribe, I'd say.
Is it me or is the front right hand side buffer drooping?
Nice video hope you review a oo gauge HST someday hopefully a FGW one
Thank you! Yeah I do need to check one of those out then!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@WojciechGamer great suggestion
You should really get the Rapido GNR Stirling Single once they released so you can complete the gnr express engines.
It's up there as one of my favourite got to be one of the best livery out there for me the gnr.
Got mine in a sale for £115 which was barmy
I would like more Atlantic locos the North British and Lancashire & Yorkshire engines particularly
And I was wondering if y can do a video of him, do the unboxing part where y get him out of the packaging, review the detail of him, review the mechanism, run him around the layout and maybe put some other character's on the layout too like Bachmann Thomas, James and maybe Percy too Just a fun idea incase.
I got a Rails of Sheffield ad before this video no way 💀💀💀💀
Standout is the Bachmann O/G5 in NER green.
Love that you redoing old reviews to modern standards, it’s a good excuse to see old models like this. Been wondering why for the longest time lol.
Bachmann really need to corner the market on Atlantics. Would LOVE to see more pregrouping Atlantics in Great Central or North British liveries.
You should review the backman southern pacific daylight
Decent review Sam, I would like to add some of bachmanns Atlantic steam locomotives to my fleet at some point, they are quite nice looking engines, when it comes to the C1 though I would like to have 251 as it is one I have seen in person and seen very recently, it’s currently sat in a building in Doncaster next to 4771 Green Arrow which I do have the new tooled bachmann V2 model of that.
Thanks David - I can highly recommend it if you can find one!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I think hornby and Bachmann should do more gnr locos like the a1
I agree! :D
Hornby have done the A1
@@christopherbellamy639 no hornby did great northern in very early Lner green not gnr green
That's a lovely loco Sam. I don't have one of those (yet). Edit: Found one - on the way :)
Isn’t this your 4th review of this tooling? What made you revisit this model? Btw, do the h1 and h2 smokebox doors open? My h1 arrived today and I don’t want to break it
How do you callculate pulling power?
Pls review kr models leader the blue looks beautiful
So, I understand the difference between a 3-pole motor and a 5-pole is just the number of poles, but what about a... what do you call them? Coreless motors? What's the difference there?
Hi Sam. Perhaps now Beachy Head is now steaming on the Bluebell Railway, someone will tool up to manufacture & market an Atlantic?
@@stephendavies6949 Bachmann made one of their H2 Atlantic models in the guise of Beachy Head, from the looks of it right now it’s only available second hand but bachmann could just reissue their model of the H2 in the Beachy Head guise, we don’t really need a new model tooled up just for that particular Atlantic locomotive.
@@davidstrains4910 Yes, but this event could be the catalyst to re-tool it
For a model that’s 10 years old, it’s not that bad detail wise! I think the detailing flaws can be blamed by the age, but we can excuse that due to how incredible the model is.
Oh definitely - it's still very presentable detail-wise!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam, I've had a close look at that capacitor looks like 100micro farad at 50 volts not 10 micro
Man, I wish Bachmann still made new tooled standard guage locomotives. (EFE doesn’t count)
Presumably they will, but it has been a looong time since they made one. Even longer when it’s not been commissioned by a retailer
I doubt we'll see a new steam loco in the main range again for a very long tbh. The last one announced was back in 2018 and that was the half-assed retooled V2. The T3 for EFE Rail was a nice surprise and all but i wish it was in the main range honestly. Bachmann are too busy with Modern Image and OO9 atm. Just as you said, it seems like the only way we'll get a new Bachmann steam loco nowadays is via comission by a retailer. Just my thoughts 🤷♂️
What no Hornby ????
hahaha! They don't make any Atlantics, except the Adams radial of course!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I’ve wanted this for so long, but it’s hard to find.
I didn’t have the money when it was easy to get.
A very pretty locomotive!! The only problem is that it comes from the north rather than the south!!
Random question for the British people who know their history, do the guard irons around the wheels perform a similar task as an American pilot/cowcatcher, I.E. protect people from getting sliced up by the wheels?
Exactly so: in British locos they are called life guards, for obvious reasons!
Sam, in railroads NYC is New York Central, not New York City. I do love Atlantics by the way. Thanks!
Hello there! I’ve been wanting to get into the hobby for some time now but it’s so incredibly expensive!
Does anyone have any budget friendly recommendations?
It depends on what aspect of the hobby you're most interested in...
If you just want to run some trains, then buying old locos & rolling stock on eBay (other similar auction sites are available) is probably the cheapest way in. I'm in the process of gathering "stuff" to build my young son a train set (it would be far too grand to call it a "model railway"!); initially, I'll mostly be giving him Hornby Dublo stuff to run - because what it lacks in detail and finesse it more than makes up for in being robust.
If you're after the full model railway experience (i.e. building "a layout" with scenery & so forth), then eBay is still your friend, but you'll need to be looking at newer & hence more expensive stuff. Depending on your mechanical aptitude - buying non runners can result in great satisfaction when you get it going (especially when it's an easy fix & you got a bargain), just beware of important missing bits - I'd never buy a loco with missing coupling rods, for example, unless I was literally buying it for spares for another engine.
Another option is to look at a smaller scale... I'd personally avoid TT120 because everything you buy will have to be brand new (more or less); so N-scale is probably your best bet. Things are a little cheaper in N vs. OO, but also half the size & eight times as fiddly. There's also fewer choices of ready-to-run locos (still quite a range though, far far more than TT120). Second hand prices seem to be quite stable, and unfortunately a bit higher than I like... hence I tend to buy the "broken" stuff, with a view to repairing it.
Oh, yeah; if you want DCC and/or sound... well... Better wring the wallet out... Buying DC & then retro-fitting DCC is not hard if you're OK at soldering & have a reasonably steady hand, and I would recommend DCC despite the extra expense, if at all possible.
@@theelectricmonk3909 thank you
Where did you find it
I believe I bought this one from Warley many years ago!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thanks I was just at a train show I got my first Bachmann engine it was worth it
YES MY GOAT!!!!! I WANT IT SO BAD!!!
Hi Sam, did you see Beachy Head and Sir Nigel double heading at the Bluebell Railway giants of steam gala🤔
He took it out the box and RAN it? Aaagghhh!!! This video has collectors sweating, shouting and swearing at their smartphones! 😁
They're meant to be run. Keeping the poor thing in a box is just cruel. Like a wild animal cooped up in a cage. Set those locos free!😀
@@speleokeir Exactly! What use is the box anyway! 🤣
Sams & Atlantics
haha!
Where’s the other video?
Seem to go from about £200 on eBay based on recent sales. Not that bad
I mean, it’s no Hornby Beatles loco, but I guess it’s not too shabby 🤪🤭
My dream loco but sadly I can’t afford it 😢
Ahh sorry to hear that - hopefully they'll come round again some time and go in the sale!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam great review, but could you wear cotton gloves, you have left your finger prints on previous model reviews
Got to think the mechanism score is harsh. Not to say that the mechanism is more than it is but it gives four start performance and so it is adequate and suitable for the model. It just isn't needlessly over engineered.
Other models have better mechanisms and worse performance.
An overall well functioning design shouldn't be seen as a negative thing.
Pick ups on only two wheels, poor access for servicing, horrible tender to loco connection, 3 pole motor and no flywheel, not easy to fit a speaker... Seems fair to me.
On the plus side it actually has bearings, unusual for Bachmann and thankfully this was made after they'd done away with their awful split chassis designs.
Nice looking loco, but the cab is ridiculously small. The Brighton Atlantics are better proportioned in that respect.
Bachmann don't seem to go in for pretty locos - although the Midland 0-4-4T is lovely.
Really love Atlantics! If only they made them in N Scale
I wanted a atlantic and that _____ sent me this
Sorry but the crawl on this is no better than hornbys ancient 4f that you slated. Hmmm